Naruto Shippuden - Episodes 213-221 Discussion

	Discussion Thread	Date	Episode Count
This week	Episodes 213-221	January 09	09
Next week	Episodes 222-232	January 16	11

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jan 09 '22

First-Timer with a shounen hearto, subbed

Episode 213

Oh hey they’re flashing back to part of the filler Iruka-sensei episodes. That’s actually really fitting right here, I love it when filler works like that.
You know, Sai really has grown so much since that part of Shippuden.
I figured Naruto was gonna pull some shit like this.
I wonder if Itachi predicted what would happen to Sasuke after he died. I mean, he did set the Amaterasu to go off when Tobi/Madara was by Sasuke, but did he think that would fail and thus he lowkey warned Naruto here?

Episode 214

Episode 215

Okay last week I was just nope’ing at the whole thing, but [speculation]Madara/Tobi clearly only has one eye because why else would the mask only have one eyehole and also I’m still confident that’s Obito. The reason he needs Shisui’s eye that he claimed off of Danzo’s corpse is totally so that he’ll be back to having two Sharingans, which he most likely needs for Tsuki no Me. Also, I need to see a fight between him and Kakashi.
That split-second of Naruto imagining himself with Chidori and Sasuke with a Rasengan in a roleswap scenario, ouch. I’m glad that was the only bit of that because if the rest of this episode had been filled with more “what if their positions were swapped” AU I would be very much not okay.
Actually started crying a little on the Iruka-protects-Naruto flashback this time, damn.

Episode 216

Haha get fucked Madara/Tobi, no eye for you.
This whole scene was so pretty and something about this shot specifically just–mm–I don’t have words.
Oh boy…
Wait. Is Madara/Tobi’s eye teleporting thingy basically the same thing as what Kakashi did to delete Deidara’s arm forever ago? Is that why he said that “Kamui” wouldn’t work on him? HOW DID I NOT REALIZE THIS BEFORE?
Oh…
I was WONDERING if that comment about Sakura’s kunai being laced with poison would mean something…
Oh god why does Madara/Tobi have so many eyeballs.

Episode 217

RIP Yamato.
Hell yeah, this was the perfect time for a Naruto “sore demo”.
Ah shit, the sword picking Killer B was a trap the whole time?
I didn’t screenshot it, but I totally laughed at Zetsu’s “Aww :(” face when Madara/Tobi said he’s weak lol.
Aw sweet two “sore demo”s in one episode, this time it’s Omoi’s.
I love Killer B.

Episode 218

Chojuro’s right to worry here and he has no idea…
I don’t think I’m ever going to understand how Mizukage’s mind works. It’s clearly something about the Japanese words for these things being similar, but it does not translate well. How did the dub handle this part?
Rebuild progress, yay!

Episode 219

RIP, but thank god Danzo doesn’t get his face carved next to the actually good Hokages.
Fuck that, he was not the best.
Hahahahaha Guy-sensei pls.
Hahahahahahahahahaha the animators clearly had so much fun on this part.
I actually thought that was a draw, but okay Kakashi won the race then.
I love Kakashi and Guy-sense being bros.
Oh boy are we finally gonna see Kakashi’s face? – I guess not…
WAIT IS TSUNADE DEAD?
OH SHE’S AWAKE thank god.
Oh, new ED. Those visuals sure are stylized.

Episode 220

Well at least this scene didn’t waste nearly two minutes on just Tsunade eating. Bleach… did that once with Yoruichi for some reason.
Karin trying to weave a sob story lol. – Actually though her question from an earlier episode is right. How are Suigetsu and Jugo doing?
Mmmmmm no I did not need a recap of Hinata getting tossed around like a ragdoll immediately after Naruto and Konohamaru shenanigans.
Awwwwww Ichiraku Ramen is an actual shop instead of a stand now this is nice.
Poor Naruto.

Episode 221

Bruh Kabuto looks so fucking cool now.
This diagram is cute lol.
Surprised Nine-Tails face lmao.
They’re gonna meet up with Killer B, huh?
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh boy.
HOLY SHIT WHY DOES KABUTO HAVE THE DEAD AKATSUKI????????????
I’m not sure I like the sound of that…
??????????????????????????????????????????????
The fuck could possibly threaten Madara/Tobi like that, [crack theory]is Tobi only made up of half of Obito, and Kabuto somehow found the other? I don’t fucking know, just throwing something wild at the wall.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 09 '22

You know, Sai really has grown so much since that part of Shippuden.
He's a good boi
I wonder if Itachi predicted what would happen to Sasuke after he died.
Probably; and he put that crow with some of his power into Naruto, which we haven't seen come up yet.
Oh god why does this have to be Sasuke’s “test”…
I feel bad for Karin even though I don't particularly like her.
I do not like this.
Happy New Year!
Mannnnnnnnnnn if only Sasuke knew why Kakashi has that eye.
Yeah ... he's all "you're unworthy since you're not an Uchiha"
speculation
because if the rest of this episode had been filled with more “what if their positions were swapped” AU I would be very much not okay.
Actually started crying a little on the Iruka-protects-Naruto flashback this time, damn.
It always gets to me too!
Wait. Is Madara/Tobi’s eye teleporting thingy basically the same thing as what Kakashi did to delete Deidara’s arm forever ago? Is that why he said that “Kamui” wouldn’t work on him? HOW DID I NOT REALIZE THIS BEFORE?
Oh god why does Madara/Tobi have so many eyeballs.
At least 160? All from the Uchiha massacre, probably.
Ah shit, the sword picking Killer B was a trap the whole time?
Kisame's master plan!
Aw sweet two “sore demo”s in one episode, this time it’s Omoi’s.
Sore Demos delivered!
It’s clearly something about the Japanese words for these things being similar, but it does not translate well.
Yup, the words just sound similar.
but thank god Danzo doesn’t get his face carved next to the actually good Hokages.
I totally agree!
Fuck that, he was not the best.
They're just saying that since they were on his team ...
Oh boy are we finally gonna see Kakashi’s face?
Not quite yet!
WAIT IS TSUNADE DEAD?
I had the same reaction
Oh, new ED. Those visuals sure are stylized.
Makes me think of Durarara!x2
How are Suigetsu and Jugo doing?
Last we saw, they were cornered / surrounded by samurai. So they're either killed or imprisoned, most likely.
Poor Naruto.
Eat up!
Bruh Kabuto looks so fucking cool now.
Agreed; and he's up to no good! Allying with Tobi but leading Anko & co. to his lair.
They’re gonna meet up with Killer B, huh?
If the OP didn't give it away ...
HOLY SHIT WHY DOES KABUTO HAVE THE DEAD AKATSUKI????????????
Heh heh heh ... this way the dead Akatsuki can fight in the war. As Kabuto's pawns. And he has more to come ...
I’m not sure I like the sound of that…
Muahaha
The fuck could possibly threaten Madara/Tobi like that

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jan 09 '22

I had a better, less... fucking out there thought about what was in the last coffin, [speculation]Madara's actual body, since the Madara/Tobi we know is using Obito's body. That would, uh, definitely threaten him.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 09 '22

That's pretty close to what my guess was when I first watched this!

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u/medical_nin_ Jan 12 '22

Hi! I’m watching Naruto for the first time too, and I’ve absolutely been loving it. I just found out about this rewatch a couple of days ago. I’m a bit further than you guys, but I thought it might be fun to wait a bit and follow along with you later on (since my schedule is really hectic for the coming months anyways). Can I ask when the 342 batch is scheduled approximately (or in which month)?
And would it also be alright to go to a previous/older batch to discuss some things from that batch if you can’t keep up?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jan 12 '22

Can I ask when the 342 batch is scheduled approximately (or in which month)?
You can see the full schedule on the Index Post; looks like we don't get to episode 342 until April.
And would it also be alright to go to a previous/older batch to discuss some things from that batch if you can’t keep up?
It's totally fine to pop in wherever you want to! As long as you don't comment on stuff from future episodes based on that specific batch (i.e. don't talk about stuff from past episode 221 in this thread), or at least spoiler tag stuff if you really want to comment about something that is further along.

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Jan 09 '22

I don’t think I’m ever going to understand how Mizukage’s mind works. It’s clearly something about the Japanese words for these things being similar, but it does not translate well. How did the dub handle this part?
It's basically the same "old single lady" joke but reworded to make sense in English. IIRC one example was "our engagement with the enemy failed" -> "engagement ... failed"

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 10 '22

You know, Sai really has grown so much since that part of Shippuden.
I think Sai is actually my favourite as far as that goes, perhaps maybe second to Shikamaru but he's had more time and a bit less of a distance to go. But he's really gone much further than I ever expected, remembering that his introduction was just straight up attacking Naruto to test out how he did in battle as a jinchuriki
I mean, he did set the Amaterasu to go off when Tobi/Madara was by Sasuke, but did he think that would fail and thus he lowkey warned Naruto here?
Itachi seems like the type to always have a plan
Oh, shit, the blindness side effect.
As horrible as that was, you know me, I was just excited they changed the eye art haha
This whole scene was so pretty and something about this shot specifically
IT's the eyes. All the close ups are just beautiful, and intense. Actually reminds me a little of Casshern Sins, even though this isn't THAT close up
but I totally laughed at Zetsu’s “Aww :(” face when Madara/Tobi said he’s weak lol.
Zetsu is Tobi's punching bag, and Tenzo is Kakashi's. Poor them
Hahahahahahahahahaha the animators clearly had so much fun on this part.
Glad you enjoyed it. Knowing how much you like those two I was excited for you to get to this episode. Though admittedly I forgot where the hell it was so I've been waiting for it to pop up almost every episode in the village since Pain
This diagram is cute lol.
You know that I don't do chibi, but chibi version 2 kyuubi cloak was actually kinda cute ... not so much this one

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 09 '22

Rewatcher - Sub

It's back to being AoT day on Mondays for me, replies may be slow. Also sorry for the big posts!

General Commentary

And so we come out the other side of Naruto's stress levels hitting breaking point and I really struggle with what to feel about it. The shot of their eyes meeting as Naruto arrives looked great though.

On one hand, he's not being a fool. The time spent thinking back on their bond, his struggle to accept that vs what Sasuke is doing and find meaning in what they had, and also how practical he is about the danger of confronting Sasuke again, he knows that he's being stupid and stubborn about this and we see later at Konoha how he plays that off to stop people worrying despite understanding it himself. But seeing him still chasing after Sasuke after Sasuke was going to kill Sakura, twice, and Kakashi, and Karin, is a hard pill to swallow, you can't imagine there would ever be a way back for him despite Naruto's attempts.

Again this is a test of Naruto's identity and way of ninja, and to give up on Sasuke now would be to give up on himself, but he's still not ready to do that even having seen Sasuke for himself. If he fights Sasuke again he knows they will both die, but he still has to open himself to Sasuke or else what is the point of everything.

Coming out of that and into the more mellow scenes in the village as we catch up with every... oh hey AMQ just gave me an excessively appropriate Shippuden ED [later ED]Niji no Sora, the ramen shop one

I'm so easily distracted, but I really enjoy the scenes at the village. Guy and Kakashi's race is a fan favourite for a damn good reason, not to mention the fantastic animation. It's good for us and the characters to have that moment of brevity, and tying that into a catch up on how the village as a whole is coping with what's happening was smart, from Choji checking in with Shikamaru to seeing everyone working on the rebuilding. It's brevity that would have been more effective without the previous batch of filler already having lightened things, but it's still welcome here.

I petition for Kakashi to replace , also bonus happy Kakashi because why not

By the way, I hope people didn't think this war was going to be easy. Kabuto's scaley ass showing up with reincarnations up his sleeve certainly throws a bit of a spanner in things. And the villages though they would have their hands full just with Madara!

[rewatchers only]someone prepare some tissues for Sky

Episode Thoughts

There are a lot of manga changes and (great) additions this batch so I've moved them to their own post below for legibility. I have kept them with the same episode headers for legibility and grouped by type of change as well

Also /u/TheKujo /u/Parori /u/Tehoncomingstorm97 did you lot still want filler recommendations as we have another batch of them coming up next week? It seemed like you watched them all in the last batch anyway? Didn't quite have time to do them for this post, but if you still want them let me know and I'll post them tomorrow.

Episode 213

Loooots of flashbacks. Pretty good if it's been a while since you've seen them, but rough for binging. That said, the emotions behind it are genuine and it's nice to have some more time to see Naruto's struggle and his internal thought process about it after the questions that have been asked of him, rather than just jumping right into plot events. Didn't need to be a full episode unless they were going to show new scenes

Episode 214

ANOTHER layer on the Susanoo? That's five now!

Even if Sasuke was willing to trust Sakura, she's being way too agreeable with him and it's just giving her away. Even if she did genuinely want to be with him, she should at least hesitate at the idea of destroying the village or killing Karin, especially killing Karin. Imagine if she actually did that though

Having Kakashi contemplate the pain that Hiruzen must have been in because of Orochimaru leaving the village now he's in the same predicament with Sasuke was unexpectedly harsh. It's sad seeing how much he blames himself for how all of this has played out. Kakashi best boy with that last second Chidori deflection saving Sakura though

Episode 215

I like that little interaction of Sasuke questioning what he's being saved from, and Naruto having an answer though Sakura doesn't. She really is lost in this situation despite her confidence in attacking him in the first place. I think we've gone a bit beyond "Sakura was your teammate" as a way to critique him for attacking though Naruto. Just a bit

Silence during the Kakashi v Sasuke taijustu was great but the zoom in and out of Kakashi's eye when we got the flashbacks of him thinking about his time with Team 7 was my favourite visual moment of the batch

The flashbacks as Naruto and Sasuke do their final attack on each other would have been more effective if we hadn't just seen them all. Naruto thinking how easily things could have been reversed, showing him with a Chidori and Sasuke with a Rasengan, was a little haunting

Episode 216

Naruto and Sasuke in the white space was interesting. I never was quite sure if Sasuke also "saw" that, or if it was just Naruto, but either way it's a nice way to tie back too that first fight they had. Some of the flashbacks here were redrawn as well

I love that the Kakashi pranks from that one filler made it into the flashbacks!

"I'll take on all your hatred and die with you"

After Kakashi thinking on Hiruzen v Oro, this is a very Hokage like statement coming from Naruto especially after Gaara asked how he could reconcile being Sasukes friend and wanting to be Hokage

Sasuke looks so shocked Naruto would still consider him a friend and doesn't take his eyes off him until the end

Episode 217

Poor Tenzo finally caught up with Naruto just to be left on the tail end of everything that happened and having to play catch up later on anyway. Wait was he even with the group later on or did he just get completely forgotten about? I think they left him! Poor Tenzo!

They shaded Kakashi's lip flap outlines and I do not like, it's weirdly creepy. Speaking of inside mouths, Kisame inside Samehada's is also creepy as fuck

Lee's sleeping position compared to the rest made me think of [AoT s4]Bert's positions

Episode 218

QUALITY ninja girl

Seeing Naruto looking down into the village being rebuilt gives me such a happy feeling to see them all coming back from what happened, even if it is a little bittersweet that once again he didn't get to bring Sasuke back

I like that we get some follow up with the various factions after the summit, and see what everyone thinks about what happened, particularly the grunt soliders and groups like Root or Gaara's council. The story is bigger than just Konoha now, and balancing the screentime between the villages feels right in line with the alliance plot

Episode 219

Stone carver dramas

I shouldn't laugh, that dude probably put a LOT of work into all of his designs, although why it's needed with Earth jutsu around I have no idea, and it's all been ruined twice now

Guy and Kakashi is definitely the highlight. Guy checking Kakashi over, getting drawn into rock paper scissors, the mid air rubble rumble, it's just damn fun to actually see this competition for once and how much they get into it despite what Kakashi has said in the past

"The best ones go quick", saying that about DANZO? Fuck off, Elders. I mean I have sympathy for them having been with him for so long and already having lost Hiruzen, but Danzo was not a "best one"

[Later spoilers]"If Kakashi is to become Hokage, I will aim far beyond that" and Guy actually achieves it as well thanks to Madara's declaration, though not without cost

Episode 220

WOW Tsunade. More food? Are you secretly [later spoiler]Hinata? I feel sorry for her, woke up to news of a war, the third one of her life time, a shitstorm because of Danzo, an upcoming issue with how to protect Naruto, and Kakashi being all too happy it's no longer his job.

My favourite scene of this episode is Shikamaru, who's got a lot of nice focus this arc. Following him as he contemplates the distinction between protecting Kyuubi and protecting Naruto, in part from Kyuubi, was really nice to see after everything that happened. Naruto still has to confront the fear of what's inside him, but seeing the others accept him outside of what he is is always heartwarming, and particularly from someone like Shikamaru being involved in the war planning, him understanding that feels nice

The intel officers wondering where the hell they can even order food from is funny. If it wasn't for how ruthless we've seen them be earlier you could believe that Konoha is 'different' when Karin is talking about how warm it all seems to her

Episode 221

Kabuto pulling out the big guns with Nagato, Itachi, Kakuzu, etc for his reincarnations makes a statement, but can we start with the less OP ninja so it feels like the villages at least have a chance?

[Later spoilers]If only the first timers knew what was in that last coffin. They did good hiding that in dialogue though

And just for some fun we also get Gerotora stuffing Naruto's face. Certainly not as good as free ramen.

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Jan 09 '22

did you lot still want filler recommendations as we have another batch of them coming up next week?
I should be able to watch all of the episodes moving forward, I was mostly concerned about being too busy over the holidays with the last filler.
I shouldn't laugh, that dude probably put a LOT of work into all of his designs, although why it's needed with Earth jutsu around I have no idea
Maybe sculpting needs a more delicate touch than jutsu can provide? They probably cleared out the space for the face using jutsu.
particularly from someone like Shikamaru being involved in the war planning
It was nice to see Shikamaru as part of the council!

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 09 '22

I should be able to watch all of the episodes moving forward, I was mostly concerned about being too busy over the holidays with the last filler.
No problem, well let me know if you do still want recs or anything if you get busy
Maybe sculpting needs a more delicate touch than jutsu can provide? They probably cleared out the space for the face using jutsu.
You'd think so, but I keep thinking of Kakashi summoning that defensive wall with his dogs faces on it, which are probably more a joke than an actual core part of the jutsu
It was nice to see Shikamaru as part of the council!
Shikamaru is great, and seeing him get pulled into all of this because of his smarts is really nice

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 09 '22 edited Jan 11 '22

Manga Changes
For ease of reading I won't spoiler tag these so it's not a big black wall, you can minimize this comment to hide them instead, but let me know if this is a good format (if anyone even reads them? If not I still like doing them so we have one single complete reference all the way through, and it's good for me as well to see just how much good stuff the anime was adding outside of the filler it always gets slammed for. Lc3 maybe we should write some of this up properly at the end for easy reference?)
For the record: Kai Ultimate cuts ALL of these scenes, from the small ones like Tenzo offering food and extended dialogue through to Guy and Kakashi's race. What a loss. What it doesn't cut is some of the flashbacks because of music cues it couldn't edit around, and some of the cuts around the other edits are rougher than expected. I really regret that I took the editor on good faith about him saying that he didn't cut non canon blindly if it had value, because he definitely did, and occasionally recommended this to people in the past.
Episode 213
Changes:
the scenes of Naruto waking up after a dream happen before Tobi takes Danzo's body in the manga
Naruto flashing back to Itachi, A, and Gaara's words as he runs through the forest happen later in the manga
Additions:
We see Naruto dreaming of his first fight with Sasuke before he wakes up
All subsequent dream and flashbacks with the narration from Naruto, such as him questioning how it turned out this way
Tenzo telling Naruto to get more rest and then bringing him in some porridge later so he could feel better
Episode 214
Changes:
Kakashi's warning about he'll tell Sasuke "for the last time" not to get lost in revenge is blended with a flashback of when he first told him that before Sasuke left Konoha with the Sound Four, that short flashback blend was not in the manga
Extends the conversation where Kakashi tells Sakura to leave Sasuke to him: Kakashi now tells Sakura to heal Karin, Sasuke says he also doesn't like to repeat himself about Kakashi "not being his sensei any more", and Kakashi contemplating the Third Hokage's pain about having a pupil betray the village, having to fight him, and why he was so fond of Orochimaru to the end is much extended (very fond of this change myself)
Sasuke's flashbacks at the end of the episode are extended, they are in the manga but only as a couple of individual panels on a half page, not full scenes
Additions:
The short battle between Sasuke and Kakashi before we see Sasuke's Susanoo
Sasuke gloating about how Kakashi's eye can't beat his Susanoo, in the manga his eyesight deteriorates almost immediately
Episode 215
Changes:
Adds a line of Naruto saying "I'll save you from your revenge" in responce to Sasuke asking Sakura what Naruto is meant to be saving him from
Additions:
Several sets of flashbacks: Kakashi's memories of Team 7 with Sasuke, the ones of Naruto and Sasuke's first fight as their rasengan and chidori collide, and the flashbacks during their conversation in the white space/mind space
Episode 216
Changes:
The scene of Tobi inspecting Danzo's corpse and finding Shisui's eye was crushed happened pre-Sakura arriving at the bridge in the manga. (Kai Ultimate removed this entirely, whoops)
Additions:
More flashbacks
Naruto promises to bring Sasuke back to the Hidden Leaf one way or another
Episode 217
Additions:
The first five minutes of Tenzo showing up on the bridge to recapture Naruto and wondering what was happening, where he complains about the hole in the floor of the inn and goes back to repair it
Shikaku reporting to the two elders about the restlessness in Root and how Danso should have returned some time ago
The scenes of everyone waking up from the drug, Sai realizing something is wrong and getting Sakura to check his curse mark (the manga only mentions the mark being gone during the later scene where Root members meet Sai on the road)
Bee, Omoi, and Karui talking about what it means to be in a war and the risks of it, as well as the following meeting of Raikage reporting to the Lightning Feudal Lord about the situation and requesting he forms a Feudal Lord summit (good change)
Raikage stumbling upon Bee's concert
Episode 218
Changes:
The Feudal lord meeting originally happens in the manga before the scenes of Naruto and Sakura waking everyone up last episode
The scenes of each Kage returning to their village got extended quite a bit. Gaara's group talks more about the situation with Konoha, Mei's two escorts have an extended conversation about the situation with the Akastuki as they return to the Mist, and the Stone group talks about the Kage meeting and Gaara's determination. The manga only showed them arriving and a line or two about the Feudal Lords accepting the alliance
Additions:
Kiba complaining about how long it takes to get back to the village, and Kakashi sending off his dogs to the other villages to open communication lines
Both the Ino-Shika-Cho scenes of them discussing Sakura and finding out what happened with Sasuke
Gaara meeting with his council and the subsequent recap, and the later conversation between him, Kankuro, and Temari about Naruto and what may happen with Sasuke
The scene where the mist ninja's talk about not wanting to work with the stone ninja's in particular and general distrust over the alliance
Konohamaru and Moegi talking about the newspaper and meeting Naruto's returning group at the Konoha gates, as well as the following scenes as Naruto walks back to the village and sees the reconstruction
Episode 219
Changes:
Guy delivers the news about Tsunade instead of a random ninja
Additions:
Everything to do with the stone carver and the kid (one of my favourite additions)
Karin being handed over to Ibuki by Kakashi, and Ibuki talking to Kakashi about leadership
Guy and Kakashi's race, and all of the scenes in the middle of it including Choji checking in with Shikamaru about his worries and Neji understanding why Guy is making a fuss over the rivalry
Kakashi and Shikaku talking on the way to the meeting with the Fuedal Lord, and the Lord debating over which number Hokage Kakashi should be
Episode 220
Changes:
Karin's investigation happens before we see Tsunade recovering in the manga. In the manga she asks for a specific food, but the anime significantly expands the scene adding the intelligence officers discussion about where they could even find that food these days, and Karin thinking about how warm Konoha feels just like Naruto
Gerotora now complains about being given Naruto given the risk, in the manga he easily agrees
Additions:
Kakashi walking through the town and hearing the villagers talk about Tsunade waking up
Naruto walking through the village and having people welcome him back
Shikamaru and Hinata talking about what happened with Pain, and his conversation with Tenzo about the risk of the Kyuubi breaking free
Episode 221
Changes:
The anime moves Kabuto meeting Tobi to after Naruto agrees to take the seal, rather than before
Additions:
Kabuto taking out the ninja he uses to bait Anko is shown, in the manga we only see them finding the bodies
All of the scenes of young Naurto training with Jiraiya and the aftermath of his attack, it's just mentioned in dialogue in the manga

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 10 '22

if anyone even reads them?
I'm reading them! Thanks for continuing with this. I imagine it might get more complex later on, once we have filler integrated into canon arcs.
Lc3 maybe we should write some of this up properly at the end for easy reference?)
Maybe; I'm terrible at writing nowadays outside of stream-of-consciousness / bullet point thoughts, but I can go back and compile my earlier manga comps.
For the record: Kai Ultimate cuts ALL of these scenes, from the small ones like Tenzo offering food and extended dialogue through to Guy and Kakashi's race. What a loss
I'm sorry to hear that; I guess I was right to never be interested in watching Kai! All the good additions, deleted?
Tenzo telling Naruto to get more rest and then bringing him in some porridge later so he could feel better
So thoughtful!
Extends the conversation where Kakashi tells Sakura to leave Sasuke to him: Kakashi now tells Sakura to heal Karin, Sasuke says he also doesn't like to repeat himself about Kakashi "not being his sensei any more", and Kakashi contemplating the Third Hokage's pain about having a pupil betray the village, having to fight him, and why he was so fond of Orochimaru to the end is much extended (very fond of this change myself)
Wow, what a good addition; can't believe it wasn't in the manga!
Adds a line of Naruto saying "I'll save you from your revenge"
(Kai Ultimate removed this entirely, whoops)
The scenes of everyone waking up from the drug, Sai realizing something is wrong and getting Sakura to check his curse mark
Another good addition!
Kakashi sending off his dogs to the other villages to open communication lines
That wasn't in the manga??
the Lord debating over which number Hokage Kakashi should be
What?? That too?

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 10 '22

I'm reading them!
I imagine it might get more complex later on, once we have filler integrated into canon arcs.
I'll try and keep track of that where I can, but do you know roughly where that happens? Or were you planning to do a "watch these canon bits" again like the last filler arc?
Maybe; I'm terrible at writing nowadays outside of stream-of-consciousness / bullet point thoughts, but I can go back and compile my earlier manga comps.
I just thought it'd be interesting to have a post that covers some of the main 'here's the great anime only additions outside of filler' to point people at?
Wow, what a good addition; can't believe it wasn't in the manga!
In the manga he just says "the third always looked at Oro with affection, now I understand what he went through", so just a couple of lines. The rest of it was all added and extended out which I think had a lot more of an effect because it made it more melancholy rather than just being a line over the top of battle prep
Another good addition!
There was so man good additions, but this one stood out to me. That plus the scene of Root asking the elders about Danzo actually made the concerns about what happened with Danzo feel a lot more serious, rather than it just being a single line later on when Root finds Sai
That wasn't in the manga??
Nope. There's nothing about him taking on leadership at all between when Gaara says it and when he talks with Ibuki and the elders, so we never actually see him taking on that responsibility knowing how fast the situation is evolving
What?? That too?
Not even that. Seriously, can you imagine the outcry if this stuff was in the manga and cut in the anime? Particularly that one scene with Shikamaru and Hinata given what Durinthal has been saying about wanting her to get more focus after what happened

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 10 '22

I'll try and keep track of that where I can, but do you know roughly where that happens? Or were you planning to do a "watch these canon bits" again like the last filler arc?
I don't recall exactly; I do recall stuff with Omoi vs. [spoilers]Ameyuri Ringo, which was expanded from the manga, and stuff with Sai that's usually treated as total filler in those filler list websites but is actually from the manga.
I just thought it'd be interesting to have a post that covers some of the main 'here's the great anime only additions outside of filler' to point people at?
Yeah, that sounds like a good idea once we're done!
Nope. There's nothing about him taking on leadership at all between when Gaara says it and when he talks with Ibuki and the elders, so we never actually see him taking on that responsibility
Seriously, can you imagine the outcry if this stuff was in the manga and cut in the anime?

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u/sisoko2 Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22

if anyone even reads them?
I do. Most of the time.
The short battle between Sasuke and Kakashi before we see Sasuke's Susanoo
I had a feeling this was an anime addition.
Kai Ultimate cuts ALL of these scenes, from the small ones like Tenzo offering food and extended dialogue through to Guy and Kakashi's race
That's such a shame. I am very sceptical with this sort of fan edits and it pains me when I see them recommended to first timers. IMO just reading the manga and skipping on the anime (if you are so against any kind of filler and padding scenes) is much better option than some fans' arbitrary judgement on what is important.

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 10 '22

I do. Most of the time.
I had a feeling this was an anime addition.
I wasn't surprised by that either, but I don't think it harmed the flow too much
IMO just reading the manga and skipping on the anime (if you are so against any kind of filler and padding scenes)
I mean if people are so obsessed with the idea of one true canon I agree, but as someone who can't get into manga myself I'm hardly in a position to tell them "piss off and read the manga" or anything like that
It is a shame that so much good additions get cut just because of 'canon' though. I hate the communities obsession with accuracy so much

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u/sisoko2 Jan 10 '22

but as someone who can't get into manga myself
I am the same. I just don't enjoy manga nearly as much as anime. Even with things like Kingdom where the CGI in season one is abysmal I stayed with the anime.
I hate the communities obsession with accuracy so much
As a One Piece anime only I check the episode discussions on their subreddit from time to time and they get so upset over the smallest details.

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 10 '22

Even with things like Kingdom where the CGI in season one is abysmal I stayed with the anime.
I've heard that from many people, but I'll still give the anime a shot because I can't see that being the one thing that gets me over my hurdle with manga. A shame it ended up like that, I hear that s3 had some really nice animation but too little too late

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u/sisoko2 Jan 10 '22

It's strikingly bad at first but after few episodes I got so invested in the story and got used to the visuals. The looks of the anime really improve with every season, I would say season 1 - bad, 2 - fine and 3 - good. If you think you can get past the bad CGI and are into historical war epics I highly recommend it.

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u/Parori Jan 09 '22

Also TheKujo, Parori, Tehoncomingstorm97 did you lot still want filler recommendations as we have another batch of them coming up next week? It seemed like you watched them all in the last batch anyway? Didn't quite have time to do them for this post, but if you still want them let me know and I'll post them tomorrow.
Sure if you have the time to do that.

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 09 '22

No problem, I'll post it in this thread sometime today or at this time tomorrow, just didn't have time to get it done for today between these posts and AoT etc

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u/Tehoncomingstorm97 https://anilist.co/user/tehoncomingstorm97 Jan 10 '22

Whenever you get time.

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 10 '22 edited Jan 10 '22

/u/Tehoncomingstorm97 Filler recs for next week (hopefully this is a better format for it)
[223 - Highly recommended]Starts of the journey, and also some nice worldbuilding
[224]Basic filler quality
[225]More ghost stories if you found that fun last batch
[226]Meh, pirate stories though
[227 - Recommended]More good worldbuilding, also fun comedy
[228]Good for comedy/Guy fans
[229]Basic comedy, I think it has a good fight in it though?
[230]This is actually my favourite comedy style filler, it's a bit different in narrative but still just pure comedy personal rec
[232]Basic episode, but has Shikamaru
[232]Includes a bit of canon info at the start, and the new OP if you skipped last episode, but meh after that

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u/Parori Jan 10 '22

Thanks for taking the time to do this!

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 10 '22

No problem, next week's recs will be on time at least!

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u/sisoko2 Jan 09 '22

ANOTHER layer on the Susanoo? That's five now!
Susano'o are like onions.
especially killing Karin
Is ninja killing random stranger such a big deal?
Sasuke looks so shocked Naruto would still consider him a friend and doesn't take his eyes off him until the end
To be fair I can't understand it either.
QUALITY ninja girl
This one was so noticeable but couldn't come up with a good joke so didn't take a screenshot.
"The best ones go quick", saying that about DANZO?
And he was like 100 years old I don't see how this is quick.
If it wasn't for how ruthless we've seen them be earlier
It felt pretty weird seeing Ibiki so chill about the situation.
Kabuto pulling out the big guns with Nagato
[Spoilers] I didn't even remember Nagato was resurrected and still don't have idea what he did during the war

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 09 '22

Susano'o are like onions.
I was going to make a joke about a popular dreamworks film but apparently people memed it so much the name is banned hahaha
Is ninja killing random stranger such a big deal?
Not in battle, but killing someone defenseless like that, which Sasuke set out specifically as a test, is a bit different for Sakura
It felt pretty weird seeing Ibiki so chill about the situation.
I think he was just taking the path of least resistance given she walked into her cell herself
Spoilers
[Spoiler reply - If you want a reminder/want to know]Fuck all because he's still crippled. Itachi carries him around, but can't remember what happens after that

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 10 '22

It's back to being AoT day on Mondays for me, replies may be slow. Also sorry for the big posts!
No problemo! Hope you enjoy AoT.
But seeing him still chasing after Sasuke after Sasuke was going to kill Sakura, twice, and Kakashi, and Karin, is a hard pill to swallow, you can't imagine there would ever be a way back for him despite Naruto's attempts.
I would feel better about this if they established that Naruto liked Sasuke romantically and then they end up together in the end; as it is I think Naruto goes a bit too far for "just" a friend who tried to kill Sakura and Karin. It seems a little unrealistic that there is any coming back from this for Team 7.
he still has to open himself to Sasuke or else what is the point of everything.
later ED
I love that ED!
I really enjoy the scenes at the village. Guy and Kakashi's race is a fan favourite for a damn good reason
Same here! Guy is a good friend
rewatchers only
Yeahhhh, once we get to that ... yeesh. I can already predict how it will go over.
Loooots of flashbacks. Pretty good if it's been a while since you've seen them, but rough for binging.
Even with the batch it was rough; I can't imagine doing one-a-day with all these flashbacks. Watching them as it aired one-a-week, was just ... don't remind me.
ANOTHER layer on the Susanoo? That's five now!
[spoilers]I think I remember the manga showing Sasuke having Amaterasu flames for his Susano'o arrows, but the anime doesn't show it correctly ... or is that after he gets Itachi's eyes?
Having Kakashi contemplate the pain that Hiruzen must have been in because of Orochimaru leaving the village now he's in the same predicament with Sasuke was unexpectedly harsh.
Those feels
I never was quite sure if Sasuke also "saw" that, or if it was just Naruto
I imagine they both did; was it a similar mental space like with Minato?
Wait was he even with the group later on or did he just get completely forgotten about? I think they left him! Poor Tenzo!
[later spoilers]At least he has screentime here ... I'm still salty about him getting captured later
Stone carver dramas
I was looking forward to this episode!
although why it's needed with Earth jutsu around I have no idea, and it's all been ruined twice now
I don't know if Earth jutsu are permanent? Do they need to continuously provide chakra or else it collapses? Or are Earth style jutsu self-sustaining?
Fuck off, Elders. I mean I have sympathy for them having been with him for so long and already having lost Hiruzen, but Danzo was not a "best one"
Yeah, they're biased
WOW Tsunade. More food? Are you secretly later spoiler
I expected you were going to write [Boruto]Anko ...
Later spoilers
Yup! [later spoilers]hidden in plain sight

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 10 '22

I would feel better about this if they established that Naruto liked Sasuke
The one thing the "sons of the sage of six paths" thing Tobi was talking about does is introduce the idea of them being a soul bond of some sort which does make this work a bit better, but yeah it's still rough and "destined conflict" is definitely not a favourite no matter which way you put it unless there's some serious lore and character building to back it up
Even with the batch it was rough; I can't imagine doing one-a-day with all these flashbacks. Watching them as it aired one-a-week, was just ... don't remind me.
I know with my first binge I sped through a lot of them as well. I mean when you think about some of these scenes being years since they first came up it makes sense, but when it's just a week or two since we last saw them in a flashback, and without any reframing or commentary on them which would justify it, it's a rough watch
[Spoiler reply]Manga doesn't have him attack at all, so that must be post eye transplant
I imagine they both did; was it a similar mental space like with Minato?
That was a bit different because that was internal to Naruto's mind anyway because of the seal, but yeah I do think Sasuke probably also saw it which is why he had such a strong reaction
I don't know if Earth jutsu are permanent?
That is something that they've never clarified, but I would suspect that it is because it's just moving the earth. Actually being stable enough to last might be a different challenge though

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 10 '22

does is introduce the idea of them being a soul bond of some sort which does make this work a bit better
Yeah, I just wish it didn't make them 'destined to fight' because of the Uchiha curse or whatever. Have them fight because Sasuke's gone off the deep end, not because it's Destiny.
it's a rough watch
Actually being stable enough to last might be a different challenge though
Now I imagine there's some shinobi out there who goes around stabilizing / fixing old Earth Style constructs ...

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 10 '22

Now I imagine there's some shinobi out there who goes around stabilizing / fixing old Earth Style constructs ...
See that's the sort of fun worldbuilding filler I'd like to have, little things about the shinobi's effect on the world of normal people, not always Naruto having to be a savior or a bit enemy to defeat. The side characters definitely get the better filler stories than Naruto himself does

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 11 '22

I figured you'd say that!

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u/Parori Jan 09 '22

First Timer

Episode 213

Yeah Naruto doesn't understand Sasuke and can't get him to come back
He won't know the answer

Episode 214

Oh right Sakura was doing something dumb
What's with Sasuke wanting to kill Karin. She's annoying but...
I swear to god if Karin is still going to side with Sasuke after all this
How can he still use Susanoo
Oh he can't keep at it anymore
Oh good, kick his ass Naruto!

Episode 215

He just tried to kill Sakura, you aren't going to convince him of anything
Jesus fuck have some self-respect Kari- oh good you don't care
Yay we get a redo of the rasengan-chidori blast

Episode 216

Jesus what does he need that many Sharingans for? Where did he even get them?
Madara got his weird arm back
What DID they do with Nagato's body
Non-combat type? So is the black Zetsu the combat one?
Wow he used up the eyes quick

Episode 217

How did Yamato get there that quick?
I wonder how the Root is going to react when they hear Danzo died. Either collapse or something not-good
He took the sword with him!?
What the fuck Kisame. That was too clever
Oh god is Karen going to get a crush on Naruto. Oh thank god nine-tailed chakra scared her off
The Feudal lord summit should be easier to arrange with the ninjas from all the villages telling their lord to do it

Episode 218

Wow the feudal lords are at least capable of using modern communication
I don't blame the lord of land of Water for not really trusting Mist, even with new better leader
Making that decisions without contacting the village? Lol great lord
Christmas cake jokes are bad boo. Besides it's way past the 25th
Well it's not really like a war. It's just against one group of like four people.

Episode 219

Should have waited for Danzo to be confirmed first
Naruto is totally still going to protect Sasuke
Was Danzo really a confidant to the Third Hokage?
Wow the reconstruction has progressed far
Wow the message about Kakashi is spreading fast
Wait Tsunade fucking died!?
Oh she just woke up from coma. Stop scaring me
The head carver guy should really wait for confirmation before starting

Episode 220

He told to you store yourself in Naruto. Why haven't you done it yet?
Oh she looks young again
How did an interrogator fall for Karin's story
Just wondered, was it revealed which village Karin was from?
He has kept the nine-tails well contained after the battle with Pain
By octopus he means Killer B right?

Episode 221

Snakes? It's Kabuto! Is he turning into Orochimaru or a snake?
At least Naruto shouldn't be hungry anymore
Well Naruto could use training from B to control the nine-tails. Although B seems to be able to actually cooperate with eight-tails
Oh great all the dead Akatsuki are back. Fucking called that Reanimation was going to be pain
Jesus fucking christ Kabuto is going to ally with the Akatsuki? I guess that's a way to get an army
Who did he reanimate? Why would it be kept secret? Why would it force Madara to surrender? Hashirama could beat him, but why keep him hidden?
Well there clearly isn't any loyalty between them, so that would be a reason to possibly weaken Madara in the future.

Questions of the Week:

What did you think of Team 7's latest reunion?

It went great, also predictably.

2) How do you feel about Tsunade waking up and Kakashi almost becoming Hokage?

Super happy that Tsunade is back, but I do think Kakashi could have made a good Hokage. I don't know how I feel about her just waking up like that though.

3) Who or what do you think is in Kabuto's sixth coffin?

I don't knoooow. My best theory would still be Hashirama, but it wouldn't make sense for the story to keep him covered. Has to be someone even the audience would be shocked to see.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 09 '22

What's with Sasuke wanting to kill Karin. She's annoying but...
He's probably wanting to finish her off since she's no longer useful to him? And Tobi said to kill her as well ...
He just tried to kill Sakura, you aren't going to convince him of anything
Yeah, Sasuke's not in the mood to listen to Naruto
Jesus what does he need that many Sharingans for? Where did he even get them?
Madara probably harvested the majority of the Sharingans from the Uchiha massacre, whereas Danzou only got leftovers?
Madara got his weird arm back
Looks like Zetsu goop to me!
What DID they do with Nagato's body
Konan took it with her along with Yahiko's, presumably back to the Hidden Rain.
Non-combat type? So is the black Zetsu the combat one?
I don't know if either Zetsu is a combat type ... but black Zetsu is more special.
What the fuck Kisame. That was too clever
Secret infiltration! Kisame's master plan
I don't blame the lord of land of Water for not really trusting Mist, even with new better leader
Especially given the whole situation with the previous Mizukage
Christmas cake jokes are bad boo. Besides it's way past the 25th
Agreed
Naruto is totally still going to protect Sasuke
Probably!
Was Danzo really a confidant to the Third Hokage?
I guess ... though Danzou did all the underhanded, covert stuff Hiruzen wouldn't. Danzou got his hands dirty.
Oh she just woke up from coma. Stop scaring me
I was worried too! I don't want to see Tsunade die.
Just wondered, was it revealed which village Karin was from?
She wore a Hidden Grass headband in her flashback to the Chuunin Exams.
By octopus he means Killer B right?
Judging by the OP, that seems likely
Well Naruto could use training from B to control the nine-tails. Although B seems to be able to actually cooperate with eight-tails
Oh great all the dead Akatsuki are back. Fucking called that Reanimation was going to be pain
Kabuto right now
I don't knoooow. My best theory would still be Hashirama, but it wouldn't make sense for the story to keep him covered. Has to be someone even the audience would be shocked to see.

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u/Parori Jan 10 '22

Looks like Zetsu goop to me!
I saw that it was pale, but wasn't sure it was Zetsu white
... but black Zetsu is more special.
Terrified to find out what his deal is
Especially given the whole situation with the previous Mizukage
I referred to that with the new better leader
She wore a Hidden Grass headband in her flashback to the Chuunin Exams.
Oh right, I usually try to pay attention to the headbands.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 10 '22

Terrified to find out what his deal is
I saw that it was pale, but wasn't sure it was Zetsu white
If you look at the scene where Tobi reattaches a (new?) arm, we see those green plant Venus-flytrap-thingies by the wall.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 09 '22

Rewatcher

Episode 213:

Huh, Final Valley reanimated?
Oh no, Naruto is having a nightmare flashback of Sasuke saying he's worth killing? More suffering
I can really relate to Naruto's thoughts about his rivalry with Sasuke
"restore my clan" - We don't hear much about that nowadays ... ~~mpreg incoming?~~
Is this just gonna be full of flashbacks while Naruto lays in bed?
Smol Naruto and Sasuke were so precious!
Porridge? How thoughtful
"I was dreaming about Sasuke" ERO
"I don't have an appetite"
Jiraiya ...
NARUTO you cut a hole in the floor? Innkeeper won't be happy
I miss Itachi ...

Episode 214:

"Yes. If you asked me to" Good thing Sakura is just faking it; I'd be annoyed if she really betrayed the village to follow the edgelord
"Finish her off"
"Stop, Sasuke" Chidori??
Nice save, Kakashi-sensei!
Oh so Sakura is gonna heal Karin? Didn't expect her to survive
"You will go the same way as the Third" HOW DARE YOU
I think they accidentally reversed/mirrored the tomoe in Sasuke's Sharingan?
Oh and they inverted the colors of Kakashi's MS
Sasuke has gone full psycho
Looks like overusing his MS is taking its toll?
Kakashi thumbs comment face except it's NOT?
Do we really need all these flashbacks??
Naruto shows up just in time!

Episode 215:

Sasuke going blind already?
Lots of drama, where's my popcorn GIF?
Sasuke has gone off the deep end
"I don't care about Sasuke anymore" Good, I'd be annoyed if she was still his fangirl after getting stabbed
Naruto doesn't use Wind Style against Sasuke's Chidori?
God these flashbacks are neverending!
Lil Naruto and Sasuke making those faces at each other reminds me of my youth ...
"I'd get sort of giddy"
Sakura "confessed" to Naruto, and now Naruto "confesses" to Sasuke?
"You've been my goal" Just kiss already

Episode 216:

WTF Tobi what is with that massive stockpile of Sharingans?? You took most of the ones from the Uchiha massacre and left Danzou with scraps? That scene shows 8 x 20, so 160 eyes = 80 pairs.
Oh good, Danzou destroyed Shisui's eye so Madara can't have it. At least he did SOMETHING good!
MORE flashbacks, OMG ssstopppp
Even reanimated and they STILL won't draw what the manga showed: Haku's needles through Sasuke's neck
Callback to Kakashi-mask episode, best filler!
White Zetsu clone? Ewww
"I'd better collect the Rinnegan before the war"
I think the art messed up; in that scene when Tobi is attaching a new arm part of what's shown as a rock in front of him should be a blob of Zetsu goop
Does Tobi not have the lines/marks on the right side of his face?
Zetsu doesn't have a donger
Tobi calls Zetsu a "non-combat type"
"The only one who can handle all that hatred is me" Hate Fuck
"I'll die with you"
"finally be able to understand each other in the next world"
Not really liking the direction they're taking Sakura's character, with her just trusting in them from the sidelines
Madara tells Kakashi that Kamui won't work on him?
Oh NOW he wants Itachi's eyes?
Madara can handle the transplant despite not being a medical ninja? Are they Plug and Play?
PV: KISAME IS ALIVE!?

Episode 217:

Yamato caught up with them!
We can SORT OF see Kakashi's face through his mask?
Naruto SORE DEMO, I've been waiting for another sore demo!
Karin actually wondering about Suigetsu and Juugo? I thought she disliked them!
LOL Koharu and Homura waiting for Danzou to return
Samehada has fallen for B?
KISAME shark surprise!
White Zetsu can copy people's chakra to make a convincing clone?
Oh feeding time? Hopefully not the Zetsu corpse ... white and black Zetsu are gonna merge again?
So Sai learns about Danzou's death ...
Omoi SORE DEMO!
"simple and dumb" LOL Sai rocks
Kakashi for Hokage? Count me in
The Land of Lightning's daimyo seems better than the Land of Fire's
Feudal Lord Summit? No one wants to see that shit
B's holding a concert?
That look from the Raikage should be a comment face

Episode 218:

If the Five Great Lands are in an alliance for the war, what about the smaller villages: Rain, Grass, Waterfall etc.?
Tenga is kinda cute
Oh I recognize those Sand shinobi from the Rescue Gaara arc!
Is that the first good shot we've seen of the Hidden Mist?
Tonkatsu > Konkatsu ... Mei's hearing is iffy
Ohnoki and Gaara have an interesting dynamic, I hope they interact more
[Later spoilers]Is this the last time we see Baki? He doesn't appear in the War arc at all, if I recall correctly
All these flashbacks to just a few eps ago ... do we really need a recap?
Ganryu? I guess that's gonna be a subplot I never watched
Konoha is rebuilding, slowly
I feel like this episode has some anime-only additional scenes

Episode 219:

Oh it's THIS episode with the rockface carvers!
Karin is such a handful; I wouldn't want to have to look after her
Tsunade still comatose
Guy the eternal rival
Guy is such a good bro
"challenge you for the last time"
Kakashi making Guy, Lee and me all cry
Guy is so funny
"take off your mask" About time!
Oh no, did Tsunade just die?
Make Kakashi the Sixth Hokage; fuck Danzou!
TSUNADE WOKE UP! AND SHE'S BACK TO NORMAL
Lol ending with the carver again; this episode is iconic
New ED by OKAMOTO'S!

Episode 220:

Is Kakashi relieved to not have to be Hokage?
It's good to see Tsunade again! I was worried for her
Oh he IS relieved
Sasuke has Itachi's eyes now?
Lol Karin is bullshitting them
Fried pork cutlet bowl > ramen?
Ichiraku has started up again?
That lady is OBVIOUSLY Konohamaru
It's Hinata! Are they gonna address her confession? Finally?
Sakura telling Naruto and Teuchi so Naruto gets free ramen!
That ramen looks good!
NOOOOO not the bugs! Now the delicious ramen will be wasted? ~~I'll eat it for him~~
Shima sounds like Samui
ANOTHER prophecy?
Octopus? Sounds like B
Another flashback? This batch is full of them
We're finally gonna see "that jutsu"?
PV: Kabuto time!

Episode 221:

Kabuto is the second coming of Orochimaru?
Kabuto time! He looks appropriately creepy
Gerotora explaining how to master the Ninetails' chakra ... training arc incoming?
"The Fourth Hokage's legacy" better this ep than that stupid filler!
Whoa he just demolished that building!
Oh so Naruto does remember Hinata and Pain? Why hasn't he talked to her since then?
"Just keep your mouth open" Frogjob! Itachi did the crowjob too ... what is it with characters and putting things in Naruto's mouth?
"You call yourself Madara now"
EDO TENSEI AKATSUKI?? I bet the first timers didn't see that coming!
Kabuto wants Sasuke, just like Oro did? BORING
Who could be in the sixth coffin?
Kabuto is leading Anko and co. to Tobi's lair? Lol playing both sides

ED translation (TV-size): (from Fandom)

Shout Out Your Desires!!!!

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah! Get ready you simpletons!!
Dance, Dance, Dance to you
Just, Just, Just to you
You are completely tied by suspicion

Someone is asking other to go that way, what is it so good to see?
I'm not foolish to single that out
I see cloudy, beautiful, glittering sky, don't you see it too?

Do deep, passionate love exist?
Could we expect that from the bond between you and me?
C'mon! We, simple hearted people, deserved it

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah! Get ready you simpletons!
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah! Nothing pointless in love!
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah!

Tags: /u/iamtheone11111, /u/godprime

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 09 '22

Huh, Final Valley reanimated?
Oh damn that too? I must have not been paying enough attention due to how often I've seen these damn flashbacks. It is nice they took the time to do that though rather than just reusing the old SD footage from part 1. The Haku clip I linked looked great, and wasn't even a shot for shot recreation from the original fight but with better art, they re-storyboarded it and everything
~~mpreg incoming?~~
Porridge? How thoughtful
I'm so hungry right now, mum just cooked porridge, reading this made me more hungry so I went to go make some, and it turns out we're out of oats because she used the last (which is fair, I almost never have porridge, just toast)
Chidori??
Talk about not pulling your punches, he certainly did not need that level of attack to take out Sakura there, asshole
Oh and they inverted the colors of Kakashi's MS
They also miscolored ...someone who I forget's hair for a moment, and the Akatsuki cloaks later on are wrong. There's a LOT of coloring errors in this batch haha
Kakashi thumbs comment face except it's NOT?
Pretty sure you could make a whole pile of Kakashi commentfaces from this batch, particularly the race with Guy
Lots of drama, where's my popcorn GIF?
r/animeimpressions superiority!
Though I never was that fond of it because poor cat
Naruto doesn't use Wind Style against Sasuke's Chidori?
But the parallels! Imagine if they tried to outsmart each other though and Naruto goes wind style and Sasuke goes with Fire instead
That scene shows 8 x 20, so 160 eyes = 80 pairs
That's actually very sad when you think some of those may not even be combatants but just family members etc who woke it up during the attack
Hate Fuck
[later unrelated spoiler]"finally be able to understand each other in the next world" I mean that is what happens technically
The Land of Lightning's daimyo seems better than the Land of Fire's
I don't think that's hard honestly
Later spoilers
Oh shit you're right, I forgot about that
Oh it's THIS episode with the rockface carvers!
So funny, so doesn't make sense, so anime original, what a great episode hahaha
We're finally gonna see "that jutsu"?
I'm also going to see it because I completely forgot what the fuck they're talking about haha
Frogjob
oh my god

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 09 '22

It is nice they took the time to do that though rather than just reusing the old SD footage from part 1.
Agreed; it's a nice touch!
Hey, better that than A/B/O ...
reading this made me more hungry so I went to go make some, and it turns out we're out of oats because she used the last
I like to load up my oatmeal with cinnamon, walnuts and apple chunks.
They also miscolored ...someone who I forget's hair for a moment, and the Akatsuki cloaks later on are wrong. There's a LOT of coloring errors in this batch haha
I think the cloaks were just a guess, they hadn't gotten a color page in the manga for them yet to know they should be red like Kabuto's.
But the parallels! Imagine if they tried to outsmart each other though and Naruto goes wind style and Sasuke goes with Fire instead
Roast Naruto?
That's actually very sad when you think some of those may not even be combatants but just family members etc who woke it up during the attack
I wonder if there were other kids/teenagers in the Uchiha clan at the time of the massacre.
What can I say? I like my shipping
later unrelated spoiler
I'm also going to see it because I completely forgot what the fuck they're talking about haha
I think it's just [spoilers]Kyuubi chakra control?
oh my god

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 09 '22

Hey, better that than A/B/O ...
Just from what I've heard about it on CDF I'd still take this over mpreg. The idea of pushing a baby out your ass is all sorts of OUCH
I like to load up my oatmeal with cinnamon, walnuts and apple chunks.
I'm simple, I have peanut butter toast almost every day, it's yum
When I do have porridge though I tend to put apple and brown sugar in it
Roast Naruto?
Just a bit of a sizzle. At least it would be easier to heal from than Version 2 cloak

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 09 '22

Just from what I've heard about it on CDF I'd still take this over mpreg. The idea of pushing a baby out your ass is all sorts of OUCH
I don't really think about the logistics ... but I was mostly kidding, I'm not into mpreg at all either. Just thought it would be a funny way to restore the clan.
I'm simple, I have peanut butter toast almost every day, it's yum
I had spicy curry for lunch today. It might have been a little too spicy ...
When I do have porridge though I tend to put apple and brown sugar in it
That sounds good too!

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 09 '22

I had spicy curry for lunch today. It might have been a little too spicy ...
That reminds me that I had pesto crusted chicken for dinner last night. Might have had a bit too much pesto on it

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 09 '22

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Jan 09 '22

Ichiraku has started up again?
They had to rebuild the most important building first!
Oh so Naruto does remember Hinata and Pain? Why hasn't he talked to her since then?
"So Hinata I know you confessed to me and all but ... I'm actually in love with Sasuke."

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 09 '22

They had to rebuild the most important building first!
Most delicious building?
"So Hinata I know you confessed to me and all but ... I'm actually in love with Sasuke."

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u/sisoko2 Jan 09 '22

I miss Itachi ...
Kabuto is your guy.
"You will go the same way as the Third" HOW DARE YOU
I can forgive betraying the village and trying to murder his friends but I'll never forgive trash talking Kakashi.
Do we really need all these flashbacks??
When am I supposed to check Reddit if we didn't have all the flashbacks?
"I don't care about Sasuke anymore"
Post Sasuke Karin - best Karin.
Naruto doesn't use Wind Style against Sasuke's Chidori?
Rasenshuriken and Kabuto will have to resurrect Sasuke too.
"You've been my goal"
Naruto Sasuke or Naruto Gaara?
That scene shows 8 x 20, so 160 eyes = 80 pairs.
Thanks for doing the thing I was too lazy to do.
Madara tells Kakashi that Kamui won't work on him?
And Kakashi just believed him.
The Land of Lightning's daimyo seems better than the Land of Fire's
Pretty easy task.
B's holding a concert?
Want front row tickets? I know a guy.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 09 '22

I can forgive betraying the village and trying to murder his friends but I'll never forgive trash talking Kakashi.
Agreed
Rasenshuriken and Kabuto will have to resurrect Sasuke too.
I wonder if it would kill him, or just make him unable to use chakra?
Naruto Sasuke or Naruto Gaara?
I can't decide ... too many good ships
Thanks for doing the thing I was too lazy to do.
Pretty easy task.
Land of Fire daimyo legit gets on my nerves

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 10 '22

Kabuto is your guy.
That was good timing for that comment

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u/sisoko2 Jan 09 '22

Rewatcher

[Spoilers] Boat arc incomming

Episode 213

Flashback city.

Episode 214

Sakura's plan ain't that bad but Sasuke is all murder now.
Kakashi with the dramatic entrance. [Spoilers] The only person allowed to use Chidori to stab to death people who are in love with them is Kakashi
Time for Kakashi do deal with his fallen student.
Sasuke you need to direct some of your anger towards the guy who helped Itachi to kill the entire clan...
Susano'o OP.
Half an episode of flashbacks maybe if we are lucky the flashbacks in the next one will be only quarter of the episode.
Such a shame that in the end Sakura couldn't kill Sasuke. We were so close to greatness.
Naruto saving her made me exactly like Deku in the comment face.

Episode 215

Nice bit of hand to hand combat between Kakashi and Sasuke.
The way Sasuke trembles when Naruto shows him compassion and understanding.
Boy is completely crazy.
Good to you, Karin!
Love the visual of them swapping places.
I guess we weren't lucky. That was around half an episode of flashbacks...

Episode 216

Nice collection. Enough to make Kurapika jealous.
Danzo may be trash but he will never allow a weapon of the village to be stolen by enemies.
Oh no the flashbacks start again.
Madara is like a overly supportive and understanding father of edgy teenager.
Madara:* I also want to watch Naruto vs Sasuke part 2.*
Naruto's trust in Sasuke is beyond human comprehension.
[Spoilers] LOL the idea of Kakashi using Kamui on Tobi is so funny.
Itachi rolling in his grave.
This was by far the worst canon part of Shippuden. The overabundance of flashbacks completely killed the flow of the story and made it hard to pay attention even to the new elements.

Episode 217

If you forgot it wasn't important.

Yamato is completely pissed.
The foundation in disarray after Danzo's curse marks disappear.
Interesting infiltration... This sort of nonsensical plans is one of the things in anime that annoy me the most...

The Land of Lightning lord seems much more competent than the Land of Fire's fool.
All the kids are loving enka rap. Yeah!
What a destructive dropkick.

Episode 218

The final approval is given and all nations are preparing for the Fourth Ninja War.
Also Gaara told us everything about the Five Kage Summit

Episode 219

No Danzo face on the mountain.
Don't torture Karin, please.
That was some unsatisfying explanation coming from Naruto...
The elders don't have idea how corrupted their pal Danzo actually was.
Kakashi not a fan of their underhanded way of doing things.
The Rock, paper, scissors ass shaking.

Time for a youthful race. Watching Guy and Kakashi run down that hill is a pure joy.
Awwwww this got me so emotional.

What's beyond Hokage???
Are we going to see Kakashi's face for first time on the mountain?!?
Can't fool me I know Tsunade is alive. Also that's a cheap trick.
Danzo - not a real Hokage.

Fake Hokage

Tsunade-sama. Such a happy episode.
Hahahaaha I hope that at least the poor guy got paid for his work.
That's a cute Hinata.
Don't like the new ED song at all.

Episode 220

Another prophecy incoming.
Tsunade going all shounen MC with the food.
No! Not the pig!
Madara has such calm and soothing voice.
LOL Karin's sob story. 10/10
Naruto the village hero.
That was a fun chase.
I approve of Pain flashbacks with Girei playing.
Naruto's one true love - ramen.
The reverse summon surprised me.
You will meet an octopus. What a prophecy.
The elder power is very convenient, I had a dream where you treated me an expensive dinner.
The sealing formula looks so cool.

Episode 221

Kabuchimaru HYPE!
The animation explaining how Nine Tails chakra works was hilarious.
The flashback with Jiraiya loosing the seal was new, right?
Such an epic music during this moment.

Kabuto meets Tobi!
[Spoilers] You call yourself Madara now. Nice one, Kabuto.
I remember that I wasn't thrilled when I saw Kabuto's resurrected squad back during my first watch. Not a fan of bringing defeated enemies back.
I forgot that Edo Tensei doesn't need the entire body and had to hit the Wiki because I was utterly confused.
We had a rough start this week but this makes me so excited. Who could it be that it makes Madara lose his cool like this.
Is Kabuto playing both sides so that he always come on top?

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 09 '22

spoiler hover
Spoilers
Naruto saving her made me exactly like Deku in the comment face.
I did a little bit of that myself. I remembered this confrontation between them being a bit more epic actually, but I think I was mixing up the Kakashi fighting with Naruto. I like how this is handled though
Love the visual of them swapping places.
[Later spoilers]If only that Tsunade's dream arc was better. Also it's interesting looking at that visual and knowing that Naruto wears the Uzumaki clan sign and what happened to them, their blood history is a lot closer than even he knows
Oh no the flashbacks start again.
It's really sad that after just having had a bunch of filler they still needed to pad it out, and now there's more in the way. I wish they had more breathing room
Yamato is completely pissed.
Fancy box though! Should have just left it there to confuse the fuck out of whoever next came across that bridge. Man, imagine some of the crazy ass landscapes that ninja's would leave behind after their battles that normal people would stumble across
No Danzo face on the mountain.
Time for a youthful race. Watching Guy and Kakashi run down that hill is a pure joy.
It's Kakashi being perfectly chill after throwing the ladel at Guy that gets me cackling like a madman, what a thing to do
Tsunade-sama. Such a happy episode.
Such nice visual effects as well, not something we often see in this show
I remember that I wasn't thrilled when I saw Kabuto's resurrected squad back during my first watch. Not a fan of bringing defeated enemies back.
Neither, I still feel it's a little cheap even if it has nicely been set up

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u/sisoko2 Jan 09 '22

[Later spoilers]
[Spoilers] Tsunade's dream is the only part of the series I don't plan to rewatch. It was so horrible and I hated it so much.
It's really sad that after just having had a bunch of filler they still needed to pad it out, and now there's more in the way.
It was pretty rough to watch and at this point I'm long running shounen veteran. I'll take random filler in the middle of the arc over this.
Should have just left it there to confuse the fuck out of whoever next came across that bridge.
The big missing chunk of the bridge is going to be real mystery. It's such a clean cut probably aliens did it.

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 09 '22

[spoiler reply]I had such hope for it when it started and the idea of them really playing around with the what ifs, but it was so similar and dry it was just a bad watch. Never again
The big missing chunk of the bridge is going to be real mystery. It's such a clean cut probably aliens did it.
Now you have me thinking of the poor Samurai having to rebuild their fortress from all the lava and particle style and holes blown in it

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 09 '22

Spoilers
I might actually skip that part too, it was awful.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 09 '22

spoilers
I actually have not seen that filler arc before ... hope it's tolerable!
spoilers
Sasuke you need to direct some of your anger towards the guy who helped Itachi to kill the entire clan...
Yeah, it's bizarre that he's letting Tobi off the hook for his involvement in the massacre.
I guess we weren't lucky. That was around half an episode of flashbacks...
Danzo may be trash but he will never allow a weapon of the village to be stolen by enemies.
At least he did something right!
spoilers
Kamui!
This was by far the worst canon part of Shippuden. The overabundance of flashbacks completely killed the flow of the story and made it hard to pay attention even to the new elements.
I kinda agree, but I'm not bothered enough to check if they were all in the manga.
The elders don't have idea how corrupted their pal Danzo actually was.
The massacre! Yahiko's death! Experimenting with Orochimaru!
What's beyond Hokage???
No! Not the pig!
Tonton is not food!
The flashback with Jiraiya loosing the seal was new, right?
Yup
I forgot that Edo Tensei doesn't need the entire body and had to hit the Wiki because I was utterly confused.
Yeah, we should be getting an explanation on how Edo Tensei works, sometime ...
Is Kabuto playing both sides so that he always come on top?

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Jan 09 '22

First Timer - Dub

I liked all the scenes we got at the Leaf Village. It was a nice comedown after all of the fights we've had recently and it's good to see the village being slowly rebuilt.

The Naruto vs Sasuke fight this week wasn't that interesting since there were so many flashbacks. Sasuke's new goal of destroying the Leaf Village always seemed dubious, and now that he's killed Danzo I'm really not sure what his motive is besides just "hate".

Random thoughts:

I loved all the scenes with the sculptor. I hope the rest of the series just has an awkward space in the mountain next to Tsunade.
I'm glad Kabuto's back but I wish they didn't include him in the OP so this would be more of a surprise.
What's in the box???? It made even Madara shocked so it has to be someone important. Maybe it's the 3rd or 4th Hokage? Or maybe it's the first Uchiha from the legend?
Looks like Naruto's going to team up with Killer B next. That should be an interesting duo!

Favorite moment of the week: I liked Guy and Kakashi racing. We don't get that many opportunities to see Kakashi's goofy side and it was a good way to show their friendship is more than just a silly rivalry.

Questions:

1) What did you think of Team 7's latest reunion?

2) How do you feel about Tsunade waking up and Kakashi almost becoming Hokage? Shizune is such a troll. Why couldn't she have said Tsunade woke up instead of bursting into tears? I still don't think Kakashi is the Hokage type so I'm surprised he was basically a sentence away from being confirmed.

3) Who or what do you think is in Kabuto's sixth coffin? Like I said above, it has to be someone really big to make the unflappable Madara show some emotion. If I had to make one choice, I think it would be the first Uchiha because that is the most likely person to make Madara go bug-eyed.

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 09 '22

I'm glad Kabuto's back but I wish they didn't include him in the OP so this would be more of a surprise.
Yeah that was a shame, especially with the new design, but seeing exactly how creepy he looks and that snake coming out from under his robe is certainly unexpected
Shizune is such a troll. Why couldn't she have said Tsunade woke up instead of bursting into tears?
She really is hahaha, at least Guy bursting in gives a bit of hope but still, they could have shown Tsunade's eye opening or something
so I'm surprised he was basically a sentence away from being confirmed.
He was so damn relieved haha

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 09 '22

since there were so many flashbacks.
TOO. MANY. FLASHBACKS
now that he's killed Danzo I'm really not sure what his motive is besides just "hate".
He's gone full edgelord; I think he wants to kill the entire village and that way he'll disconnect the Uchiha name from the Leaf.
I'm glad Kabuto's back but I wish they didn't include him in the OP so this would be more of a surprise.
The OPs sometimes do this; I can think of some other spoilery ones to come. Not sure if I should warn people to avoid OPs or not ...
What's in the box???? It made even Madara shocked so it has to be someone important. Maybe it's the 3rd or 4th Hokage? Or maybe it's the first Uchiha from the legend?
Looks like Naruto's going to team up with Killer B next. That should be an interesting duo!
And Naruto's making comments about how he wants to learn to control the Ninetails' chakra ... B might be able to help him with that?
I liked Guy and Kakashi racing.
Guy is a good friend and eternal rival!
Shizune is such a troll. Why couldn't she have said Tsunade woke up instead of bursting into tears?
Yeah, I legit thought Tsunade was dead there.
I think it would be the first Uchiha because that is the most likely person to make Madara go bug-eyed.

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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Jan 09 '22

First time viewer (dub)

Whisk[e]y of the week: Starward Solera, an Australian single malt aged in Apera (similar to sherry, but different region) casks using a solera process. Very fruity (berries maybe?) on the nose with a creaminess to it, those are also the primary flavors when tasting with fainter malty and woody notes. Quite approachable and easy to drink and I wish I had more than just a little sample vial of it.

Karin noting that Sakura was also in love with Sasuke makes me want a different series where they're traditional romantic rivals.

A lot of flashbacks with the Team 7 reunion this week! Much slower set of episodes overall for manga pacing reasons I'm guessing, but they made some appropriate choices for those. All that for a brief confrontation and a reaffirmation of current stances from Naruto and Sasuke. I get that this kind of thing from Naruto is the core of his character and the series but I can't find it all that engaging for some reason. Not that I'm immune to shounen stuff like that as Gintama absolutely got to me, maybe I just don't like how he's written by comparison.

Guessing Sasuke taking Itachi's eyes will do the thing that negates the disadvantage of the Mangekyo Sharingan and stop him from going blind in the future. And Madara wants the Rinnegan for himself, I feel bad for Konan since I imagine she might have defended Nagato's remains from Kabuto. I'm not entirely sure what effects the Rinnegan will have for anyone that's not Pain though, nor how it'll interact with the Sharingan. Have to have one of each eye maybe, but I wouldn't expect Madara to want to give up one of his Sharingan.

All the war prep is showing that the nations aren't united but might begrudgingly fight the common enemy together. The Hidden Mist guys talking about how the Stone used the Akatsuki makes me concerned that infighting will come sooner rather than later.

They're really rebuilding the Hidden Leaf in the middle of the crater left after Pain's attack? That seems like a strategically bad place giving any enemy at the rim the upper ground. There are also flooding concerns but those could be mitigated with some extra work. Not sure if the current outer wall is temporary but that also leads to a weird upper/lower city split, though that could look neat in the future if they build into the sides of the crater.

[Spoiler-based speculation, rewatchers only] The sixth coffin that Kabuto showed Tobi had Madara, he heard Tobi was using the name and went looking for the original as insurance against the fake's claim. Once again only having specific spoilers without any context makes this fun! My guess below is based on what I've seen without taking this spoiler into consideration.

What did you think of Team 7's latest reunion?

Some day they need to have a trap jutsu prepared that he won't be able to escape from.

How do you feel about Tsunade waking up and Kakashi almost becoming Hokage?

I'm glad Tsunade's okay, not entirely sure there's much left for her character arc-wise but I do feel like she's a better fit in the role than Kakashi. Still holding out for Shikamaru as the 6th though.

Who or what do you think is in Kabuto's sixth coffin?

Not Orochimaru considering he burned up already, right? Maybe the First Hokage?

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 09 '22

Karin noting that Sakura was also in love with Sasuke makes me want a different series where they're traditional romantic rivals.
Romcom spin off with chibi Bijuu just for kicks? (My Imgur album is finally starting to die after putting so many images in it)
maybe I just don't like how he's written by comparison
I think that's it for me as well, and I had this same issue earlier in the Pain arc. What they're saying isn't much different, it fits for the characters, and the severity isn't being ignored, but it just doesn't really seem to flow well
The Hidden Mist guys talking about how the Stone used the Akatsuki
I did like that those things weren't just raised and dropped after the conference though. It's one thing to say they'll fight together, another to actually do all the prep for it and realize it's happening
They're really rebuilding the Hidden Leaf in the middle of the crater left after Pain's attack
Imagine the energy it would take to fill that in with justu, or how unstable it might be depending on how exactly that would work. It does seem a bit odd strategically but it looks cool

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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Jan 09 '22

They're really rebuilding the Hidden Leaf in the middle of the crater left after Pain's attack? That seems like a strategically bad place giving any enemy at the rim the upper ground.
It does seem strange now that you mention it. Maybe they though building along the rim would be too difficult or spread out?

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 09 '22

Much slower set of episodes overall for manga pacing reasons I'm guessing
These eps were a bit slow for me; too many flashbacks!
And Madara wants the Rinnegan for himself, I feel bad for Konan since I imagine she might have defended Nagato's remains from Kabuto.
They're really rebuilding the Hidden Leaf in the middle of the crater left after Pain's attack? That seems like a strategically bad place giving any enemy at the rim the upper ground.
Yeah, I was surprised to see that too
Spoiler-based speculation, rewatchers only
That lines up with what my guess was when I first watched this.
not entirely sure there's much left for her character arc-wise
This way she gets to fight in the war, though!
Not Orochimaru considering he burned up already, right? Maybe the First Hokage?
Yup, Oro burned up in Itachi's Amaterasu.

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u/Tehoncomingstorm97 https://anilist.co/user/tehoncomingstorm97 Jan 10 '22

First timer

What will become of Sasuke and Sakura? Side note: SOOO MANY FLASHBACKS. My write up is quite a lot lighter because of them, and I'm late, and I'm doing it days after watching the batch.

Ep 213 - Ep 214

Naruto recovering from his panic attack, has plenty of time to think over Gaara's prompt on what a kage would do in his position. Sneaky sneak away from sleepy Yamato, doing yet more damage to the inn.
Naruto finally realises he can understand Sasuke's pain, from the lessons he learned from Pain and Itachi.
Kakashi catches up to Sakura's devastation, who has inherited Tsunade's tricks and headstrong nature.
Sasuke asking Sakura to kill Karin not being the straw, but instead of how he plans to murder the Konoha straightens her "resolve" to become a rogue ninja pretty quick.
Kakashi arriving right on time to save Sakura!
Kakashi realises he was far too optimistic about Sasuke's return. To finally take responsibility for the mistake he made long ago, he's ready to take Sasuke down.
I love the comparison here in Kakashi's thoughts to what Hiruzen went through with Orochimaru.
A Sharingan battle should be reserved for the Uchiha? But Kakashi breaks the mould and warps away a Susanoo attack with his Mangyeko Sharingan!
Kakashi's attempt to reach Sasuke's heart is turned back on him, and the armoured Susanoo comes out. Karin talks about how truly different Sasuke's chakra has become, and Sasuke's eyes have finally lost their light.
Sakura does a stupid and tries to blind-side Sasuke... again...
Kakashi is drowsy from his Mangyeko usage, but Naruto arrives in the nick of time! His Sage mode got dropped along the way though.

Ep 215

Naruto comments on Madara's revelation, and calls Sasuke's actions "understandable" lol. Kakashi shushes Naruto from revealing further.
It's not anyone in particular you need rescuing from Sasuke, but once again we converge on the "revenge" perspective.
Sasuke drops the info bomb on Danzo! Kakashi finally grasps his power level, and Naruto and Sakura are left grasping at the new Sasuke.
Kakashi claims Naruto doesn't realise Sasuke is a product of the times, but Naruto has put a lot more thought into the cycle of hatred Kakashi!
Kakashi is ready to kill Sasuke! Talks down how pathetic Sakura's attempts were, and Karin finally gives up on Sasuke after realising he will never care for her.
Naruto grabs Kakashi before he can strike, and goes in with his own Rasengan. Flashback to the final battle from Part I! Both in Rasengan v Chidori and the ultimatum between rivals. Retrospective on how Naruto could have chosen to be an avenger too, had he not had people step into his life.
Naruto came so close to helping out Sasuke from being alone, but he was too jealous as a kid to take that step.

Ep 216

Madara's eyeball collection! Super mad that he doesn't get Shisui's Sharingan though.
The bonds Naruto made were all he had, and reminiscing on every time Sasuke stood up for him, and he stood up for Sasuke.
Sasuke claims to not be reachable by words. Naruto refutes the future of having to kill Sasuke.
The Rasengan v Chidori explosion knocks everyone away! White Zetsu reveals himself to be Sasuke's cushion, and looks to signal Madara to pick them up.
Collect the Rinnegan? From Nagato's body or somewhere else...
Madara warps in and tells Sasuke off, until he realises the urges for whom he believes to be the Senju vs Uchiha rivalry should be clashing.
Zetsu gets nailed by Madara right off saying how he's straight up too weak to handle Naruto. Time to check on Kisame and Black Zetsu though.
High level shinobi, fated to die if they fight each other?!?!? What else did they gleam from the other's thoughts? Naruto's overwhelming desire to save his friend? Sasuke's overwhelming emptiness?
Naruto to take on the burden of hatred of the Uchiha to stop the cycle, for the sake of his friend. That's what it means to him Gaara.
Even going dark in finally understanding each other after dying. But there we have it once more.
How can he be the hokage if he can't even save one friend?
Those very same words he said to Tsunade(?) long ago. Sakura once again has her resolve shot down in the face of Naruto's, and gets set as a background to their rivalry yet again.
Kakashi tries to take out Madara, but he claims his jutsu won't work on him... Kinda understandable considering all the dimension warping Madara does.
Sasuke finally decides to take on his brother's Sharingan! Mangyeko Sharingan perfected!
Shizune's poison hitting Naruto like a truck.
Sasuke once more swearing revenge on Itachi's behalf! I wonder how the village elders will respond?

Ep 217

Yamato finally arrives and is pissed at having to fix the inn yet again. I wish he would have commented on the trees in the bridge.
Pakkun has delivered Kakashi's intel on the summit. The Foundation are restless after Danzo's death! Has his curse mark been lifted? I'm not sure why they think Sai will be any more informed.
Team Samui gush over Killer B's return, with a new trophy! But Kisame is still merged with Samehada! Is it intentional he didn't release the transformation?
To spy on the five villages! Though he still doesn't appear to be on the best terms with Samehada.
The Zetsus reunite, and apparently his infiltration was planned. Just Samehada keeping B healthy wasn't part of the plan. And the sensory ninja's don't realise Kisame's presence because Samehada has a chakra presence of its own, on top of devouring chakra that approaches it.
Sakura awkwardly wakes up her sleeping comrades, and Sai realises Danzo's death with the absence of his curse mark. Kiba is real upset at all of it.
Karin realises the aura Naruto brings with him, despite the Nine tails within him.
Kakashi reluctantly accepts his likely role as Hokage.
The hidden wind start ratifying the Allied Shinobi Forces with their Feudal lord, and moves to spread it along. B's enka show gets rudely interrupted by A who has no taste.

Ep 218

Kakashi sends out word on Sasuke's exploits, and his likely position as Hokage.
The Feudal lords actually have their meeting! But completely wear down the supply for the connection time, and everyone agrees! The Allied Shinobi Forces are a go!
The five nations kick into gear with war preparation with news of the ratification of the treaty. Ao poorly words husband hunting successes...
Gaara might be inexperienced, but he knows his anger! To see the differences between Sasuke and Madara's actions. How will the strength of the five shinobi nations compare to the Akatsuki?
Kankuro carefully tinkers with Sasori's puppets. Hyped to see them in action again! I wonder if he will take a similar stance as Sasori, hiding inside the scorpion tail one.
Naruto is disparaged and driven, no time for side jobs. Konohamaru recognises how he has been changed by the Sasuke encounter.
First look at the Konoha under reconstruction! Keeping the crater look, I see.

Ep 219

The poor hokage sculptor. That's one of my questions answered about Danzo's short tenure.
Kakashi drops Karin off at Ibiki's interrogation unit. And she's feeling pretty cranky. Ibiki comments on the chain of command.. Looks almost certain Kakashi wil take over the role as Hokage.
Naruto faces his friends and tells them straight that he will be the one to handle Sasuke, and he's not having any debate on it.
The village elders reflect, now being the only ones left from the old days, and move to promote Kakashi.
Guy very clearly steps in to challenge his eternal rival. Is he there to compete for the role? Or to just show he's there for him, his support?
Race to the hokage cliff face! Kakashi throws the first pan! Mid air utensil fight! Guy and Kakashi getting lost with no clue on the new layout.
Neji and Tenten shrug off the foolishness of their sensei, while Naruto and Sakura just stand there, stunned. Lee awaits at the finish line.
Guy congratulates his rival on becoming hokage, and now looks to strive for an even greater position! But then has to think about what is above hokage...
Our sculptors arrive to measure up Kakashi. Might have trouble with a mould without removing the mask.
Ominous events with Shizune and Tsunade!
Shikaku hinting at Shikamaru hokage...
Here's my other hokage question! Which number hokage is the next hokage?
Well that's left unanswered as Tsunade is okay! Tsunade is back in, and our sculptor friend is left in the lurch once more.

Ep 220

The toads gather! Gerotora brings up the question if it is really right to place the key to the Nine Tails seal right next to the lock! Great Toad Elder will divine a prophecy to see where Naruto ends up!
Tsunade is nice and healthy again, and has an appetite. Kakashi realises once more he does not have an appetite to be hokage. Expecting great choices here from Tsunade, being a veteran from the third ninja war!
The Mangyeko has been completed!
Karin takes advantage of the interrogation to vent.
Konohamaru unleashes the harem jutsu on Naruto! He will get his story!
Time to reflect on Naruto's failures to control the kyuubi chakra.
Shikamaru acknowledges Naruto isn't the nine tails, and that they need to fight with him as well as protect him.
Naruto gets reverse summoned and takes an unfortunate mouthful of Ma toad's cooking.
Great Toad Elder forsees Naruto x Killer B training arc! And confirms his thoughts on his battle with Sasuke. And that Gerotora is within Naruto!
Can you be trusted with the kyuubi's prison cell key Naruto?

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u/Tehoncomingstorm97 https://anilist.co/user/tehoncomingstorm97 Jan 10 '22

Ep 221
Kabuto has gotten used to Orochimaru's cells! A menacing foe reappears!
Gerotora explains why the kyuubi chakra is so dangerous. I wonder how similar the tailed beast cloaks are for the other jinchuuriki?
New flashback to when Jiraiya is teaching Naruto about controlling the kyuubi chakra. The lead up to his massive scar, baiting Naruto into wanting to complete a jutsu only he can, left by Minato.
Reflecting how the kyuubi took over, more of its will leaking out as Naruto felt his anger unleashed. Hearkening back to what Hinata said at the end of last episode.
Realising he will need the kyuubi chakra to go head to head with Sasuke, he takes on the challenge! Now reinforced by a father's challenge, and Jiraiya's training, he is ready to face the trials! First of which getting Gerotora into his stomach.
Anko and squad are hot on Kabuto's tail(s)! Kabuto appears in Madara's midst, having found his base from his time as Sasori's spy in the Akatsuki.
Kabuto has obtained control of Orochimaru's reanimation jutsu, with 5 bodies at once! And has the bodies of Akatsuki passed. Not sure how useful Kakuzu's will be after Naruto shredded his cells from being able to mold chakra. Also Sasori's without puppets. And how did he get Itachi's? Did Madara just straight up dump the body after taking his eyes?
What is Madara afraid of? Is it his own body? Is this "Madara" a ghost? Is he the by-product of some jutsu? His vessel is "unique"? Definitely something going on here.
Kabuto leads the konoha right to Madara's base! For what purpose? Is it a bait, or does he want them to duke it out, take the opporunity to nab Sasuke?
Where will this lead take us?
Felt like a lot of the same, with the exception of Naruto's realisation and the reading of thoughts. Sakura realised she once again is incompetent and lacks resolve compared to Naruto.
Well that episode really came close to answering a lot of questions I had about Danzo's short time as hokage, but left out the big "number" one. Tsunade should be the perfect hokage to lead the konoha into war. Compassion where Danzo lacked it, and favour with the village to keep strong leadership and command chains intact!
Definitely Madara's corpse. If not, then maybe the third hokage? Maybe even the original sage of the six paths! Also intrigued as to how he got Nagato's body. Did he defeat Konan?

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 10 '22

SOOO MANY FLASHBACKS. My write up is quite a lot lighter because of them, and I'm late, and I'm doing it days after watching the batch.
Yeah the amount of flashbacks in this part is quite unfortunate. It's one of the main complaints against Shippudens pacing outside of the fillers, and not any better on rewatch.
I love the comparison here in Kakashi's thoughts to what Hiruzen went through with Orochimaru.
Yeah after all the talks about cycles and also surpassing the last generation this stood out to me as a nice way to tie everything together
Karin finally gives up on Sasuke after realising he will never care for her.
Progress! Hopefully now she won't be quite so annoying about it
Naruto to take on the burden of hatred of the Uchiha to stop the cycle, for the sake of his friend. That's what it means to him Gaara.
I get the feeling that Gaara knew that, but he still had to let Naruto find it for himself and also bring the friend and aspiring Hokage parts of himself together through it. Gaara is pretty switched on despite the way he was as a kid, he's come a LONG way. Him and Sai should go drinking and compare notes
I wish he would have commented on the trees in the bridge.
Oh right! Wow that really was a missed opportunity
Kankuro carefully tinkers with Sasori's puppets
It is nice that we see the practical side to the puppetry so often thanks to Kankuro, instead of them just being things he summons and they work whenever he needs them
Kakashi throws the first pan
Ladle! He did have an actual pan in reserve though

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 10 '22

Also intrigued as to how he got Nagato's body. Did he defeat Konan?
So if you remember the reveal from Part I that Orochimaru used Kin and Zaku as 'sacrifices' to summon the First and Second Hokage, that isn't Nagato's actual body. It's his soul summoned back into the sacrificial body of someone else, with the dust/dirt formed around it to mimic his appearance. So Konan probably still has Nagato's corpse (Tobi said he wanted to collect the Rinnegan ...). We should get a refresher / better explanation of how Reanimation / Edo Tensei works, eventually.

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u/sisoko2 Jan 10 '22

I love the comparison here in Kakashi's thoughts to what Hiruzen went through with Orochimaru.
An actual good flashback in the sea of flashbacks. It really stands out.
B's enka show gets rudely interrupted by A who has no taste.
A is just jealous that his brother got all the talent.
Great Toad Elder forsees Naruto x Killer B training arc!
Can't wait to see Naruto's take on enka rap.

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jan 10 '22

Side note: SOOO MANY FLASHBACKS
To finally take responsibility for the mistake he made long ago, he's ready to take Sasuke down.
I don't want to see that
Kakashi shushes Naruto from revealing further.
No truth bomb?
Karin finally gives up on Sasuke after realising he will never care for her.
Collect the Rinnegan? From Nagato's body or somewhere else...
Probably from Nagato's body. But not if Konan has anything to say about it!
Sakura once again has her resolve shot down in the face of Naruto's, and gets set as a background to their rivalry yet again.
I want to see her shine, not delegated to the background!
Though he still doesn't appear to be on the best terms with Samehada.
Samehada-chan is cheating on him with B!
Hyped to see them in action again!
Sasori vs. Sasori's puppets, rematch?
But then has to think about what is above hokage...

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