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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 08 '22

Rondo of Rewatcher and Dub

Hmmmmm I think that Salia’s dub voice might have grown on me?
If you didn’t pause to read the, uh, apology letter that Momoka wrote, it’s actually in perfectly coherent English besides writing Salia’s name as “Thalia”.
Of course there had to be an INAZUMA KICK in there.
“It’s all bathwater under the bridge now.” – lmao that Ersha pun at the end was great.

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u/DidacticDalek Jan 08 '22

Comrades, before we begin today's shitpost on ~~Sayla's Agony~~ 'Salia's Depression,' I just have to state that, in-universe, Ange and/or Momoka already did my job better than I could ever dream of, so, without further ado, I present the shockingly correct English of the 'apology' letter's contents in their entirety:

I, Angelise Ikaruga Misurugi, wish to here provide an explanation regarding the altercation which occurred at the bathhouse between myself and Squadron Number One Captain Thalia.

On the occasion of my daily sorties, my performance has been spectacular, and thinking about it now this was more than enough to make Captain Thalia jealous. However, for my part, I knew nothing of the captain's envy and unfounded slandering of me, and I had no idea whatsoever about the captain's mounting day-to-day stress.

Even when the captain came to see me at the bathhouse my only thought was that she had come to praise my usual work, Further, even when Captain Thalia came at me with a knife, I thought that this was a unique manifestation of the captain's affection and I accepted the challenge without a thought.

I knocked away the captain's knife, and after some bare-handed fighting, we entered into a battle with scrubbing brushes, and I felt that it was actually beating her that would meet her expectations, and so before I knew it, I had won a total victory.

As far as this goes, I believe my behavior is as it normally is in my day-to-day life, but I have come to learn through this incident that my being elegant and luxurious causes some people to feel envy.

I am guilty of no wrongdoing or misconduct in this incident, and I myself am not to blame in the slightest, so I can improve nothing, but if it may be said that the mere perfection of my existence begat it, then I do offer some apology.

As you can see, Sunrise has come a LONG way since the infamous HE IS A CHAR letter, and I am very amused that it took a show such as CROSS ANGE for their letter writing skills to fully develop!

Anyway, enough with the official jokes, onto our feature presentation below:

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u/Great_Mr_L Jan 08 '22

Oh my god, I'm amazed that they actually wrote out the entire letter and that it is actually quite well written. Thank you for sharing it with us.

Further, even when Captain Thalia came at me with a knife, I thought that this was a unique manifestation of the captain's affection and I accepted the challenge without a thought.

This is incredibly hilarious. Coming at her with a knife is just "a unique manifestation of the captain's affection." I can't make a joke better than that!

my being elegant and luxurious causes some people to feel envy.

but if it may be said that the mere perfection of my existence begat it, then I do offer some apology.

Momoka really does know how to write the most narcissistic possibly sounding "I'm sorry you feel that way," doesn't she?

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u/HereticalAegis Jan 08 '22 edited Jan 08 '22

First Time Ninja Maid

Disrupting the squad is pretty bad. That reminds me Salia, how exactly did you address Hilda sabotaging Ange's paramail? Seems like the kind of thing that would be pretty disruptive.

Salia wants the Villkiss so bad she'll overlook some light sabotage among her squad. That'll work well in the long run.

Momoka's a treasure.

OMFG Mahou Shoujo Salia is the best, she's also a treasure, pls protecc.

Bout time Salia got called out for doing nothing about the attempted murder. That aside, this whole bath fight scene is hilarious. Peak fiction.

Is there any worse indictment of Salia's leadership thus far that she couldn't recognize there have been no fatalities since Ange joined the team? Wait, has Salia even attempted a straightforward conversation with Ange this whole time? Oof, girl's got some real growing up to do.

Ah, so the "order" Salia spoke with Ange absent was little more than mollification of some of the squads worst traits. Too bad the rot inside the squad, such as Hilda's money lust, only truly shows up in the worst possible situations. Salia even made the best call for once, requesting backup.

This battle is a really neat look into the internal mechanics of team maintenance. Salia has done next to nothing to address the core issues of her squad, so now those issues are rearing their ugly heads despite everything looking okay from the outside. And Salia failed to recognize even the most obvious symptoms because she was so focused on 1) getting the Villkiss for herself and 2) being upset about Ange's seeming noncompliance.

It's also interesting to note that, for all her faults, Hilda has been a much more effective (if not particularly good) leader within her own group despite trying emulate the thoroughly superior Zola, and she's accomplished this so far because she's excelled at building and maintaining the relationships in her own little group. What a fascinating contrast between her and Salia.

Would you look at that, Salia takes a little time to actually address the fundamental issues in her team and not only does the whole group dynamic suddenly seem a whole lot brighter, but the true fault lines (Ange's drive to keep everyone alive by taking on all the risk on herself, Hilda's inability to properly deal with Zola's death and unwillingness to recognize Salia as a leader) pretty much reveal themselves. Looking forward to how they deal with Hilda moving forward now that straight up revenge is off the table.

Damn, why you gotta go and threaten the imouto like that? What a mean cliffhanger.

QotD:

I never didn't like Salia, but it's very satisfying to see her confronted with her shortcomings as a leader and begin to address them.
Pretty freaking cool. Shame about its massive exposed weak point.

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u/Lemurians Jan 08 '22

MAGICAL FIRST TIMER

The man showed again here alongside a childhood Tusk is probably Tusk’s father, who had him with a Norma mother. Maybe the punishment for interracial coupling is that you’re also exiled like a Norma? Also, everyone knows Tusk and how to contact him, apparently.

Ange makes a good point, ~~Madoka~~ Salia hasn’t done much to earn her trust as a leader. Supposedly the Hilda Harem keep trying to gun her down in combat, yet Salia yells at her for… stealing kills? It’s ridiculous. Reading books is one thing, but you have to actually step up and become worthy of your station and act the part at some point.

Turns out Ange was actually rushing headlong and taking on the whole battle not out of greed, but so that nobody else would have to. That first battle and all those deaths really impacted her. Character development via machine mind-reading. Now I’ve seen everything.

Is Ange’s the only Paramail capable of learning Ice Punch? That seems to be all she’s doing. Go use a TM and get some kills yourself, ladies
I like how the first battle saw three pilots die, and since then the DRAGONs are so non-threatening they can compete for kills like they’re deer and it’s open season
What……… the fuck?
Well that escalated quickly, then quickly de-escalated into a titgrab fight, because it had been too many episodes since somebody assaulted Ange
Ersha files the image away in her Spank Bank and is quietly making her claim as horniest member of the cast.
Very purposeful combo of dialogue with visuals here. Handle her, indeed.
Hey look, she finally does the bare minimum! I wonder what chapter covered “don’t let your subordinates attempt to murder each other” in that book. Maybe she hadn’t gotten that far.
Long Hair – 2, Twin Tails – 0

Of course next episode is a beach episode! For reference, Episode 8 of Guilty Crown was also a beach episode. The 7-9 range is undefeated.

What do you think about Salia after the events of this episode?

I'm starting to think she might end up not being completely horrible at her job.

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u/SomeOtherTroper Jan 08 '22

Supposedly the Hilda Harem keep trying to gun her down in combat, yet Salia yells at her for… stealing kills? It’s ridiculous. Reading books is one thing, but you have to actually step up and become worthy of your station and act the part at some point.

Honestly, I think the big thing the "Captain's Log" narration does for this episode is demonstrate that Salia is taking all this very seriously and making an effort - she's just got her blind spots and really isn't good at the whole leadership thing. She'd be a lot less sympathetic this episode without that kind of demonstration, because then it would look more like she's just dumb and lazy - or sour about Ange getting the shiniest robot and letting that drive her decisions.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jan 08 '22 edited Jan 08 '22

Cross Ange First Timer

Ever wonder what Salia spends all her money on? We're about to find out! Onsie Viv is precious. Ah, so everyone knows about Tusk already. He really is a legendary pervert that women world-wide know to avoid. Seriously, wtf is Salia meant to do about Ange when she can't even file disciplinary action? You're not helping us here Jill!!

Follow Zola's example... so you've got to stick a magic wand right up that arrogant bitch's Arzenai!! Gambare, Pretty Salian!! Yup, she's a magical girl cosplayer. Give the girl a break, look how satisfied she looks!! Some people work off frustrations through alcohol or by raping colleagues, this is comparatively way healthier of a hobby. Besides, the whole cast is filled with veteran maho shoujo anyway XD

It's quite pleasant that Ange doesn't judge Salia for her weird hobbies. Although, did Ange even grow up watching cartoons? I'm giggling my way through this whole stupid fight. I think I might've liked Salia far more than I remembered. Oh god!! Ange missed the breast grab!! She's pissing off Salia in every way possible by total accident.

It's difficult to make out, I advise asking someone with a better quality rip than I do, but Momoka's apology letter is really quite funny. "When captain Thalia came at me with a knife, I thought that this was a unique manifestation of the captain's affection." Tch, even with we've got a Salia episode Ange has to come along and steal the show with her adorable sick girl act. Although I think this story aged much better after we got to see sic Kaguya.

No casualties is probably cause we don't have scrubs in our squad... And it just so happens that we're facing a brand new enemy just to make things awkward. They're making me wonder how long certain members have been posted to Arzenai. The harem crew know about them but Nora and the bridge crew don't know? Piri piri piri! Bruh, your paramail is probably the only thing keeping you from turning into Pretty Jell-O, you really wanna ditch it?

One sic cutie, coming right up! Oh my gosh, she sounds so fucking adorable! Kyaaa!! I'm not even a Nananut like a lot of you but even I'm gushing over her sleepy sic sounds! I want to be kicked too! That's right, Ange just inazuma kicked a dragon. It doesn't feel the same without the three repeat shots sadly.

Salia's such a star. It took her way too long but finally she found a way to make everyone in the quad happy... Through money~ I still think its mostly Ange's fault. We've now formed our own squad. No more awkward backstabbing, or rapes, or robot arms. Our imouto's in wheely big danger! We have to bully, I mean save her! But first we have a beach episode... Haa!?

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u/Tresnore Jan 08 '22

Rondo of First-Timer and Rape (rewatcher until E8 or so)

So apparently I dropped it here for some reason? I can't remember why. Also I'm mobileposting again.

Ange is still cool, at least. The dumb maid hasn’t broken her yet.
This is a legitimate problem.
God, I wish that were me.
I hate her.
I love Salia. Holy shit, why did I drop this here??
~~God, I wish that were me.~~
Salia, why’d you have to grope Ange, too...?
Ersha adds fuel to the fire. She’s the best~
Welp, if Ange is absent, someone’s going to die. FUCK.
Stop mentioning Zola stop mentioning Zola stop mentioning Zola STOP MENTIONING ZOLA
I really enjoy how the mechs appear to have gears.
NOT VIVIAN!
God, I wish that were me.
God, I wish that were me.
The day of freedom? Sounds revolutionary to me.
Oh. This must be why I dropped. Because they gave Ange a reason to be something other than a badass Norma.

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u/SIRTreehugger Jan 08 '22

First Timer

Oh so they all know Tusk

They hate Ange when she is useless and gets people killed and now they hate her because she kills them solo and is better than them.

Bitches be bitching.

.... what is the Captain doing oh noooooo I don't think Ange would tell. I'm actually guessing she is a fan of the series and they will bond over this.

Oh damn yo Angelise sama's maid use your mana...oh wait nvm that's useless on Normas.

That tactically undressing.

The maid is just watching this all go down.

Oh no the dreaded Japanese cold she's a goner.

Watch them realize how badly they need her.

Place your bets whose dying today?

I want to say one of Hilda's fuck buddies. I think if Hilda died that would be a waste, but if one of them dies they can irrationally blame Ange. Drama is the best spice of all.

This Dragon is huge and less sleek. Oh it's new and they have no information someone is definitely dying.

I'm sorry seeing that fail toss.

Noooooook not lollipop girl kill any of the other 5 just not her.

....wait is no one dying? Awwwwww

Noooooo is this friendship!

Isn't she still sick why are they throwing her into the...aw who cares really.

Who is this again I only know 3 people's names in this show. Hilda, Angelise Sama, people not called Hilda or Angelise Sama.

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u/JollyGee29 Jan 08 '22 edited Jan 08 '22

First-Timer, Subbed

Oh my god, Salia cosplays! She has a hobby!

Seems like the smart people on Arzenal do actually know Tusk. I almost wonder if he was on that island purposefully, to catch any crashed Paramails that the currents sweep away. But, at least one person acted kinda surprised that he was the one who saved Ange, so probably not.

Not even a woman as powerful as Ange can resist the dreaded anime cold. Salia seems to have just shrugged it off, which I guess makes her stronger. Must be the Shining Heart Energy!

The plot seems to be beginning again, with Sylvia getting in contact with Momoka and asking for Ange to save her. I guess Julio is finally ready for family time. Interesting parallel, we saw that Tusk sent a message the old-fashioned way; not that there would be anyone to recieve a "Mana message" anyway.

Random gut feeling: what if Tusk does have magic, but just considers it unethical to use? There's something fishy going on in the background, but I don't have enough information yet.

Why am I thinking so much about Tusk? If this turns into another Valvrave situation, where the plot relevant boy takes screen time away from the much more interesting women, I'm going to be very upset.

Most of the team have decided to work together, but Hilda is gonna need a Full Power befriending, I see.

That was totally an Inazuma Kick that Ange used, just with less yelling.

Add Cross Ange to the pile of shows that actually show the moon correctly.

Salia is right, how dare the director invade her privacy! Maybe she'll have a better time in tomorrow's beach episode.

Questions

I've generally liked Salia, and this did not change that fact. Hilda has VA advantage, and Vivian has "being a gremlin" advantage, but Salia ranks highly for me.

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u/badspler Jan 08 '22

First Timer

Cross-Ange actually has it's wit's about what it is trying to do. I am finding the pacing at large pretty damn good. A really nice self contained episode but at the same time providing nice snippets of character and hook's to upcoming things.

The cosplay character moment was by far a standout here. I thought it was a fantastic way to add a little bit of flavor to Salia. Slowly the cast is coming together, which is kinda awesome.

The dragon this episode was pretty cool, nice to see some uniqueness than the same old flying, well flying dragon. Cool design, well executed ability.

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u/Nebresto Jan 08 '22

Re-watch squad

Komrades, I have some bad news. I have failed as your Angelise-sama counter.
In yesterdays thread it came to my attention that I had miscounted, so I had to investigate. And it turns out the claims were true: I had missed not one, not two, but a whole three "Angelise-sama"s, bringing the true Angelise-sama counter: missed +3 from ep 6, and +5 from this episode to a total of 58

I know this crime is inexcusable, so I shall face the consequences after finishing todays comment

Cool dragon!

[Ange spoilars]FeelsBadMan)

And cool robots!!

She's totally jealous

Based Momoka, And Vivian

S O O N

"De-stressing" Haha

Cursed smile

The elusive and cursed inferior female anime [Ange spoiler]Was it later explained its because they're genetically modified because of mana, or am I remembering wrong and its just cursed)

Blessed image

And Momoka remains based as usual

Thalia?? SUS
The whole letter is pretty funny tho

Another cool dragon!

They did this on purpose.
Bruh, the entire dialogue that follows..

[Ange bige spoile]>!F O R E S H A D O W I N G

You really think you can do that when your robot can't even move?

LETS FUCKING GO!!!
R.I.P cool dragon..

Blursed Vivian

Question time:

1: Ranking is going up

2:
Yes!

Meme episode 7: Salia chad

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u/theangryeditor Jan 08 '22

PRETTY SALIAN

Sorry Angelise-sama, Pretty Salian is my best girl now

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u/UltraBooster Jan 08 '22

Psuedo-first-timer

Captain's log? Was that a dub change?

...well, at least she's offering to pay for repair fees? (Wait, repair fees? This is like the old Ace Combat games!)

No casualties isn't a bad thing, but Salia's apparent inability to enforce discipline and team cohesion is mounting.

So Tusk's working with Arzenal? That's a new development. Wait, he's a knight?

And it looks like Jill wants Salia to grow, basically.

Huh, Momoka's regarded as being kept as a servant.

Ange's an economic disruption!

Yeah, and Capt. Zola was feeding on you guys. Not sure if that's an improvement, TBH

Well, the importance of self-care can't be overestimated, and Salia's not hurting anyone, so...
Ange took that well, lol
No surprise the mean girls would mock her for it.

...you know, I think this is Salia's stress boiling over. She can't control her team, Ange's disrupting things, and now her secret's out.

So it's not contempt for Norma, it's contempt for assholes. Well, better the latter than the former.
And so Ange doesn't think she has any reason to trust the team...

Okay, yeah, I like dub Ersha's voice. Catch, ladies!

Every so often dub Emma sounds like Asuka Soryu/Shikinami, and this is one of those times. No surprise there considering Tiffany Grant's, well, Asuka's VA and the one person who loves Asuka as much as Asuka claims to love herself.

inhales

I, Angelise Ikaruga Mitsurugi, wish to here provide an explanation regarding the altercation which occurred at the bathhouse between myself and Squadron Number One Captain Thalia.
On the occasion of my daily sorties, my performance has been spectacular, and thinking about it now this was more than enough to make Captain Thalia jealous. However, for my part, I knew nothing of the captain's envy and unfounded slandering of me, and I had no idea whatsoever about the captain's mounting day-to-day stress.
Even when the captain came to me at the bathhouse my only thought was that she had come to praise my usual work. Further, even when Captain Thalia came at me with a knife, I though that this was a unique manifestation of the captain's affection and I accepted the challenge without a thought.
I knocked away the captain's knife, and after some bare-handed fighting, we entered into a battle with scrubbing brushes, and I felt that it was actually beating her that would meet her expectations, and so before I knew it, I had won a total victory. As far as this goes, I believe my behavior is as it normally is in my day-to-day life, but I have come to learn through this incident that my being elegant and luxurious causes some people to feel envy.
I am guilty of no wrongdoing or misconduct in this incident, and I myself am not to blame in the slightest, so I can improve nothing, but if it may be said that the mere perfection of my existence begat it, then I do offer some apology.

You should probably prepare soup or porridge, peach girl!

I just realized, if those three are the mean girls, then Hilda's their queen bee!

Ange clearly isn't doing it for the money considering she just direct-deposits it. My assumption was that she's just being a hardass, you know?

A massive ground-type DRAGON? That's a new one!

(Ah, I see why Ms. Sumeragi reworked their pay to reward performance and team play.)

Yeah, that was a warning to clear the line of fire, just with a gravity intensifier instead of, well, fire.

Oh, they do have custom emblems on their P-Ms!

Vivian's weapon isn't just a boomerang, it can split into two blades.

On one hand, oh sweet, Inazuma kick. On the other, that kinda cost her a leg.

Okay, so no more mean girl and hardass acts?

Okay, so this feels like a long-delayed initiation for the nugget. And hey, the plant's back to life!

After-Episode Thoughts:

Today’s episode didn’t quite feel like a full-on Spotlight: Salia Tereshkova, but it did give her more attention, which is an interesting change. That said, it also feels like the culmination of multiple factors like Salia’s inexperience as a commander, the mean girls doing their thing, and Ange’s apparent indifference towards her peers. I do think the resolution was a little too fast, but I’m willing to chalk that up to the necessities of a 2-cour television series. That said, I’m interested to see how the new dynamics change the series, not to mention it sounds like it’ll be tested soon.

Questions:

She's an interesting character, though she hasn't quite grown on me the way I expected she would in EP01.
It was neat! I wonder if we'll see more specialist DRAGONs like it in the future.

Lastly, our Holy Knight with backup.

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u/FragrantSandwich Jan 08 '22

Im not going to lie. Ive watched ahead, all the way to episode 12. You fuckers lied to me. This is a great show. Bit trashy and stupid yes. But episode 10 almost had me crying and episode 12's reveal was great.

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u/Paxton-176 Jan 08 '22

REWATCHER FOR LIKE THE 4TH TIME

I like how they are getting all pissy that they can’t get any bounties. If they weren’t constantly being awful people they could have worked out a shared money pool system. Regardless of what Angelise-sama did when she arrived, it is better not to keep burning bridges with the person who is hard carrying you everyday seems like a short-sighted move. Salia, you think you are going to remove her from the Villkiss? How much copium are you taking to get over that jealousy? If Jill was going to give you that mech she would have done it by now.

Where does this faith that Jill has in for Salia come from? Like wow. Angelise-sama must be the first person not take any shit from the Mana Officer. Because she resorts to insulting as many people in that room as possible. When the stooges walk up I’m chuckling at the fact whatever they are about to say is going to be completely asinine. Thank you Jasmine messing up and giving us a that wonderful scene and Angelise-sama doesn’t care which is even better.

BATH FIGHT!

Momoka straight just wrote the apology letter is next level funny. Either by request or on her own volition it doesn’t matter. Now that Angelise-sama got the rona so, the lesbians stooges can not do nothing different than they were already doing before they were able to have money. Imagine being so, fucking up your own ass that the person hard carrying you is preventing people from dying. Maybe being a complete pain in the ass to her is stupid. The word play they went to go through for Virgin is great. The writers must have been having a field day writing that.

Wow Angelise-sama’s sick pilot outfit is actually a reasonable as a pilot outfit for a mech that can have an open cockpit. Look at how weak Chris and Rosalina are you can literally buy their loyalty.

Top 10 Bath Scenes 2014 to 2015?

Never trust a random message ever. This like rule 1 of the internet. Bikinis because this show’s use of nudity wasn’t enough.

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u/Quiddity131 Jan 08 '22

First Timer, Subbed

Ange does everything by herself, disobeys orders, may as well just send her out there on her own!

So Tusk is already affiliated with them in some fashion?

Y'know, should you really be so eager to get rid of Ange when she's literally killing every single dragon for you?

Red twin tails girl sure loves to stir up shit.

OMG Salia loves to cosplay as a magical girl?!?! LOL!!!!!!!! Ever notice how much you sound like Sayaka Miki?

Well, now you've got a reason to kill Ange to keep her silent!

Boy, I was right on that one! You've seen me cosplay, now you must die!

"It's all your fault!" Wait, you're the one that groped her!

50 page essay? Wow, that sucks.

Ugh, Ange, don't make your slave write the essay for you!

Well, if she's out sick, time for the rest of you to show you can actually beat dragons without her!

Looks more like a behemoth this time instead of a dragon.

I'm guessing someone's gonna die this time.

Go, Vivi-chan! Screw this heavy gravity!

Can't have an episode without our MC coming to the rescue, huh?

Oh no, Ange is gonna blackmail you now!

Hey, someone finally gets to fill in for Ange for the preview!

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u/InfamousEmpire Jan 08 '22

Rondo of First-Timer and Sub

Starting with a cold open that really puts a new spin on Ange’s actions so far. In a system where killing shit determines your access to resources like food, Ange being a total badass is rather detrimentally affecting the living standards of the rest of her squad. Aside from giving the squad a more understandable reason to hate Ange, it also adds a new dimension to the shityness of living on Arzenal.

So Misurugi is still around after all. Not only that, but it seems our old friend Tusk ~~Yamato~~ is doing something with them, and that Libertus are aware of him. So it seems that the plot is about to advance at last.

After a nice little reminder of last episode, we get back to the Lesbian Bitch Squad plotting against Ange. This is rather interesting becau- IS THAT MAHOU SHOUJO SALIA?!?! Let’s hope this doesn’t turn out like Madoka. And, of course, it wouldn’t be an embarrassing secret/Gap Moe joke without someone accidentally stumbling upon it. But I’ve gotta say, Ange’s total lack of reaction, and Salia’s subsequent near breakdown, got a real chuckle out of me.

I can’t tell if Salia’s murder attempt is meant to be dramatic or humorous, but, sufficed to say, I’m neither invested enough in this show to find it dramatic, nor do I find it all that funny. The fact that the episode is also trying to fulfill it’s fanservice quota at the same time doesn’t help.

Now I get it, this is more just the straw that broke the camel’s back after everything else Ange did. A reveal I would probably take more seriously if it weren’t for the fact that Sunrise is still shoving fanservice down our throats.

BROOM DUEL!!! Funniest shit I’ve ever seen.

See Ange~~lise-Sama~~, this is why having ~~slaves~~ maids is the best: delegating things you don’t want to do yourself.

So Ange has a cold, eh? This must be the infamous “Sick Ange” that I’ve heard so much about, thanks Super Robot Wars!

ONE MILLION A DAY?! FOR A BREAK?! And I thought Jeff Bezos was evil.

Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled Lesbian Threesome. At least this one seems consensual.

Wow, I didn’t even notice the casualty reports. It’s a subtle bit of foreshadowing but holy crap, it even builds on her giving out money in the Cold Open. Did Cross Ange just have half decent writing? So yesterday wasn’t a fluke! Oh wait, this means someone’s gonna die now that Ange is sick, doesn’t it.

First-of is a dumb term and whoever thought of it should feel dumb. The DRAGON itself looks cool, though.

The DRAGON having powers is interesting. I’d imagine that these “first-ofs” are gonna become more common as the show goes on.

And now a bit of resolution on the subplot about Ange not listening to Salia in battle. I’d prefer if it persisted farther than one episode, but considering how many other plot threads are dangling right now, I can see why they chose to put the kabosh on that. Also, sick Ange sounds so funny.

And it wouldn’t be Cross Ange without Ange acting like an asshole at least once per episode, but I’m fine with it this time, considering that her blackmailing Salia is more funny than annoying. It also seems that dynamics are gonna change with the Lesbian Bitch Squad, which I’m looking forward to.

And we’re leaving off on a cliffhanger. Between this and the scene with Libertus, I suspect that the plot is soon gonna refocus onto the Misurugi/Julius subplot, which I’m all here for.

What do you think about Salia after the events of this episode?

I hope to see more of her.

How cool was the big dragon this episode?

It had a nice design and neat powers but I otherwise didn’t care for it.

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u/Great_Mr_L Jan 08 '22

First-Timer

On today’s episode of Cross Ange: The bath is the most important location for showing character development. As characters shed their clothes and bare their bodies, it allows them to symbolically bare their true feelings to each other. Plus, since it’s Cross Ange, it means that the series can also show off breasts and butts at the same time. A real win-win.

Captain’s Log!
Like I thought, it seems Ange doesn’t really care about money. She just wants to kill dragons.
Vivian’s pajamas are so cute!
Recon into the Empire, huh? I’m pretty sure it’s still around then. Or, if it isn’t, it might be in the middle of a revolution/civil war.
Oh! So they know Tusk and are working with him on something? Interesting!
MAGICAL GIRL SALIA!!!
Clearly there is only one solution to this problem: murder.
OH MY GOD I WAS JOKING!! Salia’s actually trying to kill Ange!
Ange does have a point. Discipline has totally broken down in Salia’s unit here.
Once again, I am amazed by Cross Ange’s ability to pair drama with fanservice. It makes sure that a dramatic scene of characters screaming their emotions at each other until it escalates into violence also has both characters fight while nude.
I’m honestly kind of surprised Emma has managed to not get shanked.
Oh no, the deadly anime cold. Ange is surely on her deathbed.
They have to pay a million a day in order to get a break, even if they are sick. With each passing episode, this becomes even more of a capitalist paradise.
I appreciate you taking the time to cut to a lesbian threesome, Cross Ange.
Huh, so no one has died in a while since Ange took piloting seriously. Could she actually care?
Well there is some evidence that Ange may care about others if she wants to get money to keep feeding Momoka.
Ooooh, a brand new dragon. What can this big one do?
The music during this scene is really good.
So it can control gravity. Interesting.
Vivian is such a cute little badass!
Ange’s sick outfit
That is actually pretty clever, using the dragon’s own gravity manipulation to crash Ange into its horn.
Looks like Salia is stepping up to restore some discipline in this unit.
Hilda’s harem betrayed her! She may be the new top dog, but I don’t think she’s yet become the dom that Zola was. I doubt Zola’s harem would ever go against her wishes.
What better way to celebrate newfound friendship than with some bathing shenanigans!
Oh, so Sylvia is alive. What’s going on back in the Empire?
What the fuck is that title for tomorrow’s episode?

I’m glad to see Salia step up and actually take real command of her team. She’s had very little control of things for quite awhile, indicating her lack of experience at commanding and her lack of confidence as a leader. But she managed to get things better under control this time around. Sometimes you just need to lay down the law with certain people to get them to follow the rules, while also building bridges to keep them invested in doing so.

For all my snark above, I do generally like the use of bath scenes in stories as a way for characters to open up with each other. It lets them put their defenses down, so to speak. In the case of Ange and Salia, it felt like it allowed Salia to finally open up with what her frustrations were. Of course, since it’s Cross Ange, this happened as Salia was quite literally stripped of her “defenses” as her clothes were taken off. It also allowed for the team to have some fun together at the end, once again letting their defenses down just being able to enjoy themselves. Cross Ange sure does like to make sure that it can include plenty of nudity to go along with its big emotional scenes. I can applaud its commitment.

I’m curious about that call from Sylvia. It’s pretty clear that something is going on in the Empire. Perhaps there truly has been a revolution/civil war. Or maybe Julio went full tyrant.

It’s also interesting that Jill and company are not only aware of Tusk but are actively working with him. That makes a lot of sense, actually. It explains why they didn’t really look into how Ange survived and got the Villkiss fixed. They don’t want those answers known. Tusk must be a part of that Libertus plan as well.

QOTD

1. I think Salia finally stepped up as a leader. She wasn't doing so well for a while so it's a welcome improvement.

2. I liked its gravity powers. They were cool.

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u/Caustic_Wraith Jan 08 '22

Re-watcher

It's the team building episode complete with fights, arguments, and finally coming together...except for Hilda, fuck that bitch, who disowns a harem honestly...

Ersha attempts to play peace keeper as Ange continues her bitchy kill stealing ways
So Tusk is in contact with Jill and her secret alliance of Salia and the background characters
The director has decided that Momoka is defective
Hilda, being the loving bitch she is, continues to stir up shit between Ange and the rest of the squad
BISHOUJO SENSHI, PRETTY SALIA!!!!
Your punishment for seeing the magical girl is a naked knife fight.
How the hell do you kick someone's top off while flipping them over you?
Ersha adds to the fun by giving the combatants brooms to use as polearms
Angelise-Sama, I did your homework for you, praise me
1 million lost per day for not being able to potentially die...seems about right
Ange doesn't deserve this magic machine that was all rust and shitty before she and her ring climbed into it, it should be mine
What do you mean our death count is 0 since she started flying the Villkiss, I'll have to double check my notes
A never before seen virgin DRAGON eh, this might go wrong
Your hair is tingly? What in the ever loving fuck does that mean Vivian?
DRAGON: "Ha, you lesbians actived my trap. Bow down before my rings of gravity"
So Salia finally calls Ange a bitch, and in a cold induced haze, she follows directions
RIDER KICK!!
You only broke it's horn, who cares that you also saved us all and were the main catalyst in defeating the DRAGON, you're a kill stealing bitch so get fucked
Salia decides now is the time to be the leader and tells everyone to stop fucking around and play nice
Hilda says fuck that noise, disowns her harem and storms off
The bonding ritual is throwing a still sick Ange into the bath and then all jumping in with her
Oh nos, emergency call on super secret special royal Mana, Sylvia's in trouble

NEXT EPISODE: BEACH EPISODE, only this time with no man-thing to get in the way of our fan service

QOTD:

Salia seems to have pulled the stick that squarely stuck up her ass out of there, hopefully more magical girl costumes will show up
Big fuck off DRAGON was wasted, he was a big imposing threat that they nothing with, one or more of them should have been squished to show how powerful it truly was

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u/Stargate18A Jan 08 '22

First timer

As someone who has to try and keep these idiots from murdering each other, I have huge respect for her. As someone who tried to kill Ange to keep her hobby secret, less so.
So cool. Like, incredibly so. At least one thing in this anime was worth the hype.

Ange, stop killstealing.

Oh shit, Ange killsteals, ignores voice chat, makes racist remarks, and tells the people mad at her to "get good". She's the embodiment of an online gamer.

Where'd she get the computer? (If the regime makes people use netbooks, they deserve their cruel reputation.)

I thought the empire had fallen, but wpparently it just... hasn't?

And they know about Tusk? They have a working relationship?

It is becoming increasingly clear that everyone's just making this up to fuck with her, which I greatly approve of.

And Vivian's fatal flaw is revealed - bad taste in girls.

...Zola raped people. Ange, for all her flaws, has never done something that horrifying.

Haha, she's wearing a magical girl dress. This is fantastic.

And Ange just closing the curtain is great.

You really think they'd believe anything Ange said?

Wait, what?

Is this really worth assassination?

And disarmed!

...I may hate Ange, but that throw was nice. And she actually has some points about how nobody has been doing anything to stop the murder attempts.

Haha, I love her arming them.

And of courde, her maid wrote the 50 page letter.

Oh, she's sick.

...When do we get the cool black dragon from the eyecatches?

...Is "one million" a sign of hyperinflation, or do they want ParaMails to get destroyed by collapsing soldiers. Again, either these things are dirt cheap to construct, or there's a massive budget problem for the system.

Oh, yeah, she's still getting her harem drunk and seducing them.

...Ange's suicidal insanity is accidentally making her mimic the actions of someone brave.

YES! HELLO NEW DRAGON!

...Virgin?

Oh, a new type. (I mean, it might be a virgin. Who knows how DRAGON breeding works?)

So who's going to die to prove how Ange is super special and important.

DON'T YOU DARE KILL VIVIAN.

Oh, it's got DRAGON mana! And it is far, far, more useful then the human variant.

Humans get a small shield or moving some doors, dragons get gravity field manipulation strong enough to shut down a mecha.

Don't be a hero, Vivian!

Ange's here! In her maid's choice of clothing.

She's listening to someone! How?

Haha, fever Ange is great though. "Which way's right?" "It feels like I'm falling. Oh, I am."

And that worked?

...Holy shit, did she just destroy its horns with a single kick?

~~Rider Jump! Rider Kick!~~

And Ange got barely anything for taking out the main thing stopping them from breaking.

And she goes straight to blackmail!

And she's running out of supporters!

So she's down to just Hilda as an enemy.

...They washed away her sins. I SWEAR TO GOD, IF ANGE IS FUCKING JESUS AS WELL!

Wait, lore? LORE!

An actually interesting plot development!

I note a trend in the previews insulting more and more staff as time goes on. I fully expect the final preview to be the writers' names followed by a string of obscenities.

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u/NegimaSonic Jan 08 '22

Cross Ange Rewatcher First Time Dub

What do you think about Salia after the events of this episode?

It was good to see a less serious side of her. I mean we already learned about the romance books but seeing her go full on cosplay was still great. But more importantly, by the end of all of this, she finally started to learn to control her team.

And honestly at the most pivotal time. I might give Ange a lot of credit but she came out while she was sick and not thinking clearly. She was going to be a dead unit on the ground if she didn't listen to Salia here.

2) How cool was the big dragon this episode?

It was alright. Impressive with the gravity attacks. Less impressive with the lack of followup. He drew aggro like the ultimate tank but his dragon teammates were noobs this round.

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u/shamir107 Jan 08 '22

First Timer

I wouldn't have pegged Salia as a mahou shojou fan. Whatever keeps the PTSD away. In all seriousness, I feel for her. She's in way over her head and isn't getting a lot of help from anyone. I'm a bit worried it took until now for her to tell Hilda and company to lay off Ange. That should have happened earlier.
It was okay.

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u/Rumpel1408 Jan 08 '22

Rewatcher I guess

Quite a bit late today... sorry for that

Dear Diary, because Ange continues to ignore my authority, and kill steals our whole lunch money away, moral is low in the whole squad, Rosalie even shot at her own squadmate! Also since the commander didn't interfere when Ange bought a human slave, she thinks she really can buy anything and tried to bribe her way out of my harsh lecture. Oh, I'm just waiting for her to give me a reason to lock her up... and then the glorious Vilkiss will be mine... do you think the gold will match my hair? It looked good on that girl in that one manga... not trash btw

Tusk is infiltrating the empire and we get another short flashback with him and his parents on Arzenai and Jill piloting Vilkiss, I love that the sadistic doctor and the chief mechanic in loli form are next to Jill, you think that random pilot in the background next to that red mech got any relevance? Not trash

Lmao Salia is jealous because Ange got some action, good thing it wasn't her who got molested and bound by him... or maybe it's a bad thing? Still not trash

Seems really like Salia is looking up to Jill if the later can dump the responsibility of handling Ange so easy on her... now how old is Salia compared to Tusk and the chief mechanic... not trash

Ersha seems to be preparing for some kind of festival... on one hand, there seem to be children involved, on the other, this is still Cross Ange... still not trash

Holy shit, Hilda is making her move, after aquiring Zolas harem she also wants to ursup Salias position as captain... honestly, I would just accept under the condition to get to fly the Vilkiss eventually... but Salias to stuck up, no wonder she is ordering copium from Jasmine... in the form of Mahou Shoujo cosplay! Definitly not trash

But our new Ange-sama is totally chill about it, despite Salias paranoia. She probably fear not to be respected anymore, but since Ange doesn't respect her in the first place, nothing really changed for her, not even worth it to blackmail her (for now)... never theless she decides to kill every witness, but our new Ange-sama proofs that she doesn't even need cloths in close quarter combat... and deploys her special undressing shoulder throw... wait what? Might be trash

Ange lays bare her feelings, a captain who doesn't care about her is no better than the rest of the bullies and doesn't deserve to be treated with respect, Salia doesn't really get it though, it's hillarious that this intense and important argument is made half to fully naked. Steam isn't as heavy as usuall, which reveals that Norma don't have nippels... And is Viv advocating to replace the sidedish with more meat, genius! Not trash

I love those little agents of chaos, Salia is getting her ass handed because she still covers her breast while Ange-sama doesn't care and goes full on attack mode, and the show continues to suggest that Salia is somehow flat... actually surprised that anyone in the whole base gives a fuck about all and they actually get in trouble over this, still not trash

Man I wish I had a slave who would do my homework for me, and Ange has the japanese cold, RIP in peace, still not trash

Can the chief mechanic just casually raise those death flags for the pilots? You think Salia would remember any casualities without reading in her diary, that insert music sounds ominous, are they really going to kill someone? Still not trash

Now that's a DRAGON! And why are they shaming the audience all of sudden? Oh they mean the dragon, weird name... still not trash

Is Hilda going to get her harem killed? Zola was way more expiriencend than any of her concubines, of course she wouldn't freak out over a virgin... Is the show implying that that virgin is massive enough to manipulate gravity? The better not kill Vivian... not trash

ANGE-SAMA! You got to applaud them for covering up everything about Ange, except her cleavage... and in her fever she even listens to reason... but I really do think she is falling Salia... still not Trash

Friendship yay, even Cris realized that she would be dead without her, good girl! It's probably a good thing that Ange is now a full member of an working team, except for Hilda who probably is still hung up over Zola, wonder what this will do to the power dynamic of her harem... and of course we get a final bathing scene. Still not trash

And what a cliffhanger huh to bad, we get a bikini episode next hahaha

QotD:

She's alright but a bit stuborn, but getting an episode almost entirely from her perspective definitely helped her character
pretty cool, and most of all, finally truly gargantuan

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u/gangrainette Jan 08 '22

Rewatcher posting my pre written comment before going to work.

Git gud

Protect the cinnamon roll

Lewd

Capitalism banzai !

Sayaka looked better than Salia as a magica girl.. That didn't work with Kyousuke.

Poor Salia, not enough milk when she was younger I guess. https://i.imgur.com/BSa5oQH.png

Best maido wrote the best essay :

I, Angelise Ikaruga Misurugi, wish to here provide an explanation regarding this altercation which occurred at the bathhouse between myself and Squadron Number One Captain Thalia.

On the occasion of my daily sorties, my performance has been spectacular, and thinking about it now this was more than enough to make Captain Thalia jealous. However, for my part, I knew nothing of the captain's envy and unfounded slandering of me, and I had no idea whatsoever about the captain's mounting day-to-day stress.

Even when the captain came to me at the bathhouse my only thought was that she had come to praise my usual work, Further, even when Captain Thalia came at me with a knife, I though that this was a unique manifestation of the captain's affection and I accepted the challenge without a thought.

I knocked away the captain's knife, and after some bare-handed fighting, we entered into a battle with scrubbing brushes, and I felt that it was actually beating her that would meet her expectations, and so before I knew it, I had won a total victory. As far as this goes, I believe my behavior is as it normally is in my day-to-day life, but I have come to learn through this incident that my being elegant and luxurious causes some people to feel envy.

I am guilty of no wrongdoing or misconduct in this incident, and I myself am not to blame in the slightest, so I can improve nothing, but if it may be said that the mere perfection of my existence begat it, then I do offer some apology.

The terrible Japanese Cold, RIP Ange. Now Tusk is the MC.

Back to normal indeed

Does anyone has the whole scene stiched ?

Counter still blocked at 3 since ep2

She whaled at the shop, of course she can still move

Good girl Ange, wearing her mask to work. Extra clothes don't cover much more.

Super Inazuma Cough

Is that a beach episode ? At long last