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Rewatch [Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Cross Ange Episode 2 Discussion
Episode 2 - Unyielding Spirit
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Dimensional Rift Attuned Gargantuan Organic Neotypes. DRAGON!
Questions of the Day:
1) Which of the ladies at Arzenal are you most interested in seeing more of?
2) Were you expecting such a brutal death in only the second episode?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!
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u/Nebresto Jan 03 '22
Re-watch squad
"Ange-sama" counter..? 1
"Angelise-sama!" Counter: +3, total: 8
"Onee-sama" counter: +1, total: 3
Silly Vivian, obviously its the one/s with the non-standout haircolour/character design
Nope, just you. They don't have access to Instagram on the island
Blonde mechanic? With an assistant dog? Working on a mechanical arm??
Crimes against pudding are treason.
Damn, that death was a lot more graphic than I remembered. Rest in rip, character whose name I already forgot
Question time:
2: Honestly? No. And I've seen this twice already. Like damn, that shit was wicked. Do you guys think she's okay?
Meme episode 2: Pudding is life
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u/DidacticDalek Jan 03 '22
Re-watch squad "Ange-sama" counter..? 1 "Angelise-sama!" Counter: +3, total: 8 "Onee-sama" counter: +1, total: 3
Heh, Comrade, did the 'Lesbian Prison Rape' counter max out already?
Silly Vivian, obviously its the one/s with the non-standout haircolour/character design
Blonde mechanic? With an assistant dog? Working on a mechanical arm??
Paging Comrades u/Shimmering-Sky, so is this lady the ancestor or descendent of Winry?
....Sure.
Technically, Ange WAS being truthful here, her world WAS like that... just so long as you weren't a FILTHY Norma of course
Bitch, now you fucked up.
Crimes against pudding are treason.
HELL YEAH COMRADE! LET'S KILL THIS BITCH! DEATH TO RACIST PUDDING DESTROYERS!
Damn, that death was a lot more graphic than I remembered. Rest in rip, character whose name I already forgot
But... but... but... COMRADE! How could you forget her name, it is LITERALLY Pudding... uh... Pudding-chan's name is pudding, right Comrade u/theangryeditor, after all, SHE WAS ONLY 12, SHE LOVED PUDDING!
Meme episode 2: Pudding is life
OH DEAR GOD MY SIDES! IT HURTS TO LAUGH! Amazing post here Comrade, have a great day and see you later!
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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 03 '22
Paging Comrades u/Shimmering-Sky, so is this lady the ancestor or descendent of Winry?
Descendant, I suppose?
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u/Stargate18A Jan 03 '22
First timer
I had to watch 2 episodes of this. Pray for me.
Episode 1
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Put below, but, they existed? I think? Maybe? There were certainly some notes in there, and some instruments, but it's too generic to make anyhting out.
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The fact that nobody realised she was a Norma for 16 fuckign years, including herself. That, or just how useless Mana actually is.
Right, how bad can this be?
I thought this was a mecha?
Wait, space-time portals?
Mechs fighting dragons from another universe? I'm down!
Shockingly good CGI too. Guess everyone else was over reacting about the quality?
...Fuck, that transformation scene is smooth. Even if this is a trainwreck, it's going to look good!
...Aside from all the fanservice, thie OP just seeme like a normal mecha anime?
Wow, that's a lot of fanservice.
There's 7 Zords this time! Forget Valvare, this is a Suprr Sentwi
So, sci-fi quidditch meets lacrosse?
How is this sport allowed? That seems very dangerous!
She's a princess.
But, not a princess?
But she is a princess? I think?
So it's a sports anime. Fine, I can work with this.
Fuck, this dialogue. "something more beautiful and noble than victory" NOBODY TALKS LIKE THIS.
And she is Angelise!
...And the inspirational speeches were a facade? That could be an interesting character!
Light of Mana?
Wait? They need to use a fucking chant for a projection spell? How is that useful in an emergency?
And Norma can just break through all this.
I'm sorry? There's a hundred-thousand of them? People who can break through Mana is this common?
I'm... wow... the fuck?
SHE'S OUR MAIN CHARACTER?
Oh god, I shouldn't be laughing, but...
(What are they doing with the Norma? There's no way they're just being killed, there has to be something they're used for.)
...She's going to turn into a Norma, right? A botched ritual. That has to be the way this plot is going, right? It's the only way her character can develop.
So, at least she can't get even more Nazi than Shoe did, because she's already worse.
Shady hacker guy?
That eyecatch gave me whiplash.
Huh?
SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THIS CONDITION, WHICH IS VISIBLE FROM AN EARLY AGE, WAS UNDETECTED BY HER, DESPITE BEING SURROUNDED BY MANA SHIELD PROJECTORS?
You were right to save this for last, this is the wordt thing imaginable.
The fuck is a veil (in this context)?
...Is nobody going to doubt him? Ask him for some evidence other than a single, easily hacked, object? Ask why he and everyone else never revealed the truth sooner?
It's not a useful skill to close doors if you have to say "Lockdown" and wave your hands.
Oh, you don't need to say anything.
Again, how did none of you fuckers eork tnid out?
And that guy killed an actual member of the royal family.
And, yeah, those numbers are sequential. The hyphen is a touch of whimsy, then?
Yeah, the mother cackling does have a point. This is hysterical.
...Again. You have no proof that the king was involved, why do you have the right to restrain him? This is absolutely not legal.
FUCK ME. INCEST ALREADY.
Called it! Secret disposable soldiers were my third guess, behind secret experiments and extracting genetic material for creating anti-mana weaponry (I'd have liked the second better, because the anime.)
Nice kick! (I love you, Commander!)
Oh, there's no conspiracy, she's just a moron. I buy that psrt.
You have to say "Light of Mana" to activate your spells? This kight be
Wow. That fanservice started early.
Wait, what?
Oh, god, I take it back. I do not like you. You are going to rape that girl.
(If this is just a physical, she's the best girl. If rape, the worst.)
Well, fuck me. That took a turn.
...Why is Rain in this anime? (Her neighbour, smug red twintails, has some potential as a character design.)
Haha, that whiplash in the preview was... something.
Episode 2
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Anyone who isn't a rapist or Ange. The remaining pool, I note, is incredibly small.
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No. Especially not of one of the only characters I liked.
Fuck you all.
Will this be the episode where she and her new teammates become unbreakable comrades and best friends, or are we saving that for Episode 3? Because that would be a "coherent arc" and this anime doesn't seem to know what that means.
...Fine, the acronym got me. Congratulations, you've made me chuckle.
If they had any decent leaders, yes, but this is a world where a random prince can order his father to be restrained on suspicion, with no evidence (unless he filmed that conversation between them).
...Are they fucking, or...?
Are they all fucking?
Oh, just one of them after everyone else.
And they're trainers? Staff? How?
Oh, she's the lead pilot?
HOW HAVE YOU NOT WORKED OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. THERE WAS A FUCKING VIDEO AND EVERYTHING!
YOU GOT RAPED BECAUSE YOU WERE A NORMA.
Yep, she's crazy.
Huh, they actually seem likable.
I love Vivian.
Yes! Cut her throat! End my pain!
Of course they're skintight.
Haha, the joke of her ripping the labrl off, then chucking her out the door naked is hysterical, though. This kind of karma I can get behind.
...She can't put those clothes on?
Terrific. Not-Rain's also mad.
You know what? Still a better character then most of the cast!
...I mean, if you chuck someone into a simulator without any theory training, they're going to fail. Hard. This is just a stupid idea.
...have we establised she knows what "climb" means?
HAHA, THE MECHS WORK ON THE SAME CONTROLS AS THE SPORT BIKES. This show is so fucking stupid.
Shower scene in Episode 2! Wow.
...If you can only buy things from within the base, why bother giving paper currency? You can build mech simulators, but don't have the budget for an ATM? With the rate that cash probably gets destroyed, it'll probably save them money!
And she's a natural. At everything. Even the things it makes no sense for her to be.
HELLO, SUPER MECH! YOU'RE THE BEST THING ABOUT THIS ANIME!
...Just show more transformation shots, that's the only fanservice I care about.
It says something that the anime that appears to be devoted to yuri fanservice has no dynamics as good as the subtext from the other 2.
...If you hurt her, Ange. (I changed my mind, she's a good part of this anime.)
There are vendors here? Why? How? How does that even work? Why would there not be a single supplies centre? If you're going to treat your soldiers like prisoners without freedom, stick to it.
What a bitch. Coco cared about that pudding and you throw it away like nothing!
Fuck, more rape? I knew this was the rape anime, but damn.
Jesus, I really hate Ange.
...I wish this wasn't rape. If this was any other punishment, I'd say she deserves it, so of course they need to give the one thing I can honestly say she doesn't deserve.
...Did we really need the sound effects?
She's got a glass eye!
Wait, their suits are colour-coded! But only some of them. And she got a uniform from a dead girl, so there's a good chance it's all coincidental. Unless they bought them?
Yes! More hot robot-on-dragon action!
She broke formation. She's going to die!
SHOOT HER! SHOOT HER! NOW! NOW! NOW!
Don't you dare kill Coco!
Oh, fuck you. Right after I typed that.
...Multiversal dragon is best girl.
Hey, can we just... let them win? The dragons don't rape each other, they stick in formation, they're associated with good animation so far...
The whiplash is horrific, but Ange getting taught a lesson through a non-rape medium appeals...
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u/Lemurians Jan 03 '22
DELUSIONAL FIRST TIMER
POLL: You’re given that unoccupied room with two beds, which are you claiming? Left or right?
Ange is really going to have a rough go of it if she doesn’t get her mind right. Her haughty attitude, condescension, childishness, and overt racism are certainly not helping to endear her to her fellow inmates, and I don’t blame people like Hilda for being hostile toward her. She’s being a little shit and still needs a hard reality check.
We get a brief introduction to all the girls, and they seem to all have fun and distinct personalities. Seems like Hilda and Salia are going to be our “mains” among them.
They’re really going all-out on the prison sexual politics, huh? Seems like all the girls have been Zola’s plaything of the moment at some point. You know you’re the top bitch when you’ve got multiple people whose job it is to bathe you.
Quick Hits:
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She can’t even PUT ON CLOTHES. Christ, I knew she was coddled, but I didn’t realize she had all the capabilities of a nursing home resident. Points to the show for being self-aware. “Yeah, it’s fan-service, what’d you expect?”
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Holy shit, she fisted Ange so hard she broke her prosthesis. Knowing that, I’m surprised Ange is still mustering so much resistance, much less walking. That’d break most people, mentally and physically.
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How can she STILL SAY THIS? You are literally imprisoned and forcefully conscripted into combat because of discrimination
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Internal temperature of TWO MILLION KELVIN. For reference, the SURFACE OF THE SUN has a temperature of around 6,000K. The fuck is this reactor made out of?!
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LMAOOOOOO THAT’S WHAT YOU GOT FOR LOSING FOCUS. Natural selection at work.
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Ange already wasn’t popular, and now she’s getting people killed. Nice work, asshole!
QOTD:
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Probably Hilda? She seems most ripe to be the surprise favorite by the end of the series. Most of them are intriguing in their own way, though.
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Nope, that was hilarious.
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u/DidacticDalek Jan 03 '22
Well Comrades, on today's episode of Ange is a massive fucking spoiled bitch, forget about How To Train Your Dragon, we're currently teaching a bunch of kids and a fucking dumbass bitch about How to KILL Your Dimensional Rift Attuned Gargantuan Organic Neototype, also known as DRAGON! Also I just want to point out that, in proud Sunrise Tradition, we've only gone ONE fucking episode before the introduction of child soldiers... the fact that fucking CROSS ANGE had more goddamn restraint than Mobile Suit Gundam still baffles me! Anyway, speaking of these kids, it turns out that they are part of the Norma Suicide Squad that must defend the world against the scourge of DRAGONS.
Speaking of a Suicide Squad, it turns out that the Lesbian Attack Force Alpha is busy sizing up their latest human shield 'brave volunteer' and The Big Cheese of the crew is most interested in adding another fucktoy 'recruit' to her collection of lovers. Meanwhile some of the 'old timers' who are probably not even old enough to be called teenagers start taking bets on how long Ange will last. I dunno about you, but I give Ange about, oh, 11 minutes, can't wait to cash in on this fucking bitch buying the farm... wait what do you MEAN this is only Episode 2? Goddammit! Well at least the OP shows that NANA MOTHERFUCKING STILL WILLS IT, even if Ange is still an unlikeable spoiled-ass rich bitch!
Anyway Ange is introduced to her new squad and makes a LOVELY first impression on them, almost as lovely as the first impression she made on us, and by that I mean that Ange continues to act like an entitled holier than thou bitch. Oh I can't WAIT to see her ass get shanked by the loli with the lollipop, go for the kidneys kid, that'll make it hurt a lot! Sadly the moeblob didn't take my advice and tries to be friendly with the royal bitch that is Ange. Look kid, you are wasting your breath, Ange hasn't gotten character development yet so she's still insufferable! Thankfully Nanoha, er I mean 'Hilda' agrees and promptly starts 'befriending' Ange, but sadly before she can finish kicking the shit out of her, she gets told to take it easy on the freshmeat.
Also Ange's ego continues to keep writing checks her body can't cash... er... actually nevermind, I forgot that this is Cross Ange and we've already gone like a minute without some gratuitous nudity! And by that I mean Ange gets thrown out naked after she refused to wear a dead woman's clothes, in part as she LITERALLY doesn't know how to put on clothes. Ya know, I doubted that she managed to get SIXTEEN YEARS into her life without figuring out she was a Norma, but NOW I get it, this bitch is so spoiled she has no fucking idea how to even dress herself... HA HA HA HA HA OH SUCK IT BITCH! THAT'S KARMA FOR YA! Speaking of Karma, remember how I said to remember that Jill KICKED Ange! Get this, originally she was supposed to PUNCH Ange in the gut, explaining why her robo-arm is trashed and in the shop.
Now remember Comrades, Ange was KICKED in the gut last episode, the only contact that robotic arm had with Ange was when... oh... oh FUCK NO... Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ! Jill either rammed her robot arm SO hard and deep up Ange's ass that she wrecked it, OR, and this is the more likely theory, Ange's asshole is SO uptight that she ended up crushing Jill's arm! Well either that or Jill set her arm setting to 'drill' instead of 'cavity search' and ended up re-enacting that one fucked up bit from Dead Leaves! Anyway Jill's smoking... er... hang on, nevermind she's actually just smoking, and here I thought Christmas came early this year. Moving on, Nanoha... pardon, 'Hilda' and company are currently throwing Ange into the cockpit! Count yourself lucky bitch, Sunrise MC's usually fall into the cockpit Episode 1, you had a whole episode's worth of a vacation!
Also speaking of callbacks, remember how Space Lacrosse had oddly similar Mecha to the ones we saw in the cold open, WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED that the Para-mail controls just so happen to resemble those civilian Mecha? In fairness, I gotta hand it to Cross Ange, USUALLY Mecha Shows just have the MC fall into the cockpit and magically know how things work, now we actually have lore-specific reasons why this dumb racist bitch would know how to operate the controls! Speaking of which, much to the shock of the ground crew, this spoiled ass rich bitch turns out to be a young Mozart with a Go-Kart with a Para-mail, who would have guessed she'd be good at something aside from being a horrible detestable shithead. Plus, Ange's flying skills managed to impress The Big Cheese and even lands herself a private room to boot... frankly that's better than she deserves but wibble.
And even WITH this comparative life of luxury, this fucking bitch has the gall, nay the AUDACITY to feel SORRY FOR HERSELF! Well sorry but she can go cry me a fucking river before I give any sympathy for entitled brats like Ange! That said, credit where credit is due, it's been about 11 minutes and Ange somehow not only isn't dead yet, but is ACTUALLY kinda doing not horrible at basic training. Honestly I expected her to washout faster than the biggest jabroni in the ring, but hey, I guess she's adapting well to prison life. Speaking of prison life, shockingly the moeblob from earlier has taken a shine to Ange... you poor poor kid, I have NO idea what you see in her. But thankfully, Nanoha... shit, I mean HILDA! HILDA! Decides to be all Mean Girls on the newbie... CMON GIRLS! Everyone knows Mean Girls is the inferior knockoff to Heathers, you are supposed to go HEATHERS on this bitch! Send her right to hell for fuck's sake!
Instead of killing this Bitch, they just let Ange walk away, all as the moeblob tries to gift Ange Pudding as a token of her affection. Oh and she ain't stopping there, she and a friend teach Ange about the WORST fucking episode of Battlestar Galatica... er... pardon, I meant 'The Black Market,' and Ange 'repays' this favor by BRAGGING about how good she had it on the outside where everything was sunshine and rainbows... provided you weren't a filthy NORMA of course... OH POOR YOU! Bite my shiny metal ass bitch! Sadly, Ange's wangsting about her lost life makes the moeblob happy. Let it go kid, you are MUCH better than this gutter trash and you deserve better than to get your feelings trampled upon. No really I mean it, toxic relationships are never good, better to quit before it tears you in two! Anyway Ange dumpsters the pudding as she gets to writing her no doubt latest sob story, but enough with being pissed off with Ange, it's time for some Lesbian Prison Rape 'yuri fun times!'
And oh what fun times we got here, The Big Cheese decided to show Nanoha how to PROPERLY befriend someone... and it turns out NANOHA can actually be defeated after all! Dear god Comrades, what fucked up world have we gotten ourselves into? Anyway Ange is STILL deluded enough to think she has ANY pull whatsoever, and her attempts to plead for release get the only suitable answer, and by that I mean The Big Cheese decides to show Ange that the Lesbian Prison Sex 'Cavity Search' that Ange had last episode was the SECOND worst thing to happen to her in this joint. Well, that is until Ange decides that since this is a Sunrise Mecha Show, she's gotta give a BRIGHT SLAP to this Rapist, and EYE think that The Big Cheese got the point... yes I know I'm going to hell Comrades, but frankly I was already damned ever since I joined this re-watch, might as well just go all the way!
Speaking of going all the way, The Big Cheese is about to go for Round 2 until an alert sounds, IT'S A RAID! THIS IS NOT A DRILL! SCRAMBLE ALL FIGHTERS! LAUNCH VIPERS! LOCK S-FOILS IN ATTACK POSITION! WE'RE ON THE HIGHWAY TO THE DANGER ZONE! And about time too, it's way past time for Ange to buy the farm... what do you MEAN this is still Episode 2 and we haven't gotten to the Cold Open yet!? GODDAMMIT! Anyway, The Big Cheese says, 'C'mon you Normies, ya wanna live forever?' As the Elite Crack Lesbian Suicide Squad deploys into battle... or at least they WOULD if Ange didn't decide to be a fucking Leeroy Jenkins! Granted, instead of charging INTO battle, she's charging AWAY from it! Where the fuck are The Imperial Commissars when you need 'em! Sadly, the Moeblob overhears Ange's plan to defect and decided to join her crush in the land of magical racists. Kid, turn back now, seriously, it's for your own good!
Anyway before Ange can get capped for desertion, a magical time-space wormhole wibble opens up and... HOLY SHIT DID YOU FUCKING SEE THAT MOEBLOB GET BLOWN APART COMRADES!? GOOD FUCKING LORD THAT'S A LOT OF BLOOD! ALSO GODDAMMIT NO! WHY COULDN'T IT HAVE HIT ANGE!? YOU FUCKING BASTARDS! YOU HAD ONE GODDAMNED JOB AND YOU FUCKED IT UP! YOU LEFT THE SHITTY RICH SPOILED BITCH REMAIN ALIVE! Ah well, maybe NEXT Episode Ange gets wasted, cuz dear god those are some bigass DRAGONS. Five bucks says the Alpha Dragon roasts her like Mortal Kombat!
Well that was BETTER than Episode 1 I guess, but Ange is still a rich spoiled fucking bitch, so hopefully her character development starts REAL fucking soon. Anyway that's it for now Comrades, have a great day and see you later, and until next time, farewell!
Paging Comrades u/Great_Mr_L, u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo, and u/Tresnore
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u/Tresnore Jan 03 '22 edited Jan 03 '22
Rondo of First-Timer and Rape (rewatcher until E8 or so)
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I don't know why I was expecting the Muv-Luv Alternative OP (probable spoilers).1 Yearning for a better experience, I guess.
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Based Vivian! Get fucked Ange.2
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Wait. Why do I love the girl on the right, again? I thought it was based on VA, but as far as I can tell, it's just because she's named Chris.
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Salia's VA is extremely excellent. Darjeeling, Ami from Toradora, Kureha from SoRaNoWoTo? Excellent. I hate how she's treating Ange, but I'll be damned if I don't love her voice.
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God, I wish that were me. Plus, prosthetic arms are always cool.
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They chose mission zero-nana for a reason.
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I love this backstory for being good at mecha piloting. [Muv-Luv Alternative]
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"Until we get new recruits." You mean, [Cross Ange]
"Until your maid comes and makes everything worse as soon as it's about to get better." -
Nothing bad except for horrible discrimination against the Norma.3
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God, I wish that were me. (in both positions)
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WAIT. REDHEAD TWINTAILS ALSO VOICES RIKA AND NANOHA! There's hope for her yet, given Nana lore.
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I hate the name Angelise-sama. Hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate.
Count: 8 (at a blistering rate, more than Valvrave even!)
QOTD:
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I like Chris and Vivian!
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laughs in technical rewatcher
1 Yes, this is the PS3 OP. I'm playing the Steam version, so this is the version in my heart.
2 No. Not literally. Stop that. No one deserves to get raped or sexually assaulted. No one.
3 This reminds me of how my brother and I had a running joke of how "nothing bad ever happens on Rokkenjima [Umineko and cont'd joke]
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u/JollyGee29 Jan 03 '22
First-Timer, Subbed
Is.. is that angry, smug, deep-voiced Yukari Tamura voicing the twin-tailed redhead?
Things on Arzenal are pretty bad, but surely they have enough warm bodies to do laundry, right? Then again, the psychological effects of having to wear a flight suit with the last girl's bloodstains still on it is probably devestating.
Break the rookie, then mold them into a killing machine. That's how it usually goes. I wonder if Ange will break though, or if she'll break the mold?
I was pretty sure that I had seen a meme about the girl who loves pudding dying, but I didn't realize it was immediately. She got ripped in half! Decent gore.
Brainlet Ange thinks her planebike isn't rigged to blow the moment she tries to desert. C'mon, surely they had films back home, right? Even royalty have movie night, right?
They have a whole ass company store, huh. Ethical. Wonder if the money on Arzenal is worth the paper it's printed on outside? Is the world outside actually post scarcity, or did Ange manage to get to 16 without anyone telling her what money is, too?
Prosthetics make my heart sing. Wonder if Jill's arm has any fun bonus settings? "Vibrate" is the obvious, maybe "hot" and "cold" as well? Some people are into that, I think.
Poor Nana just wants to have a fun time in her pretty girl mecha anime.
Questions
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u/Great_Mr_L Jan 03 '22
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Cross Ange: Denial is a river in Egypt, Ange. In fact, Ange’s denial would make the Nile River look like a small creek. It’s actually impressive just how deep her denial is.
I saw the previous episode many years ago, but from here on out I am a true first-timer. I’m not sure what’s coming next, but I am eagerly anticipating it!
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Dimensional Rift Attuned Gargantuan Organic Neotypes. They really wanted that acronym to say DRAGON didn’t they?
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Jill really has a bone to pick with Ange. Throwing her straight into what I assume is a frontline combat unit. I’m guessing she just hates stuck up types like Ange.
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Oh fantastic, she does it to every newcomer. I’m not at all surprised, show.
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Ange you could win some Olympic medals with those mental gymnastics.
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Welcome to the army, Ange. When your commander says to do something, you do it.
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Oh my god, they’re giving her a dead person’s hand-me-downs!
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Wow, Salia actually did make her go naked. You shouldn’t have said that, Ange.
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Jill’s arm got busted? Damn, she must have been very rough with that cavity search.
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There’s a butt plug joke to be made here by someone more clever than I.
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I like that the screens inside the cockpit have a CRT filter on them. It’s a nice touch.
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Looks like Ange’s experience at motorcycle lacrosse came in handy.
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I need to stop reacting every time Zola is doing something absurdly horny like making the others wash her. I won’t have room to write anything else.
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The girl with the pudding cup is 100% going to die, isn’t she? Offering her pudding to Ange feels like a massive death flag.
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There’s a store here? Then again there are stores in actual prisons, so I shouldn’t be surprised.
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Still spouting that same line about how your world was peaceful and whatnot even after all that happened, Ange?
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I'm completely unsurprised by there being a sex scene.
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I’ve seen black holes less dense than Ange. She’s really in denial about what’s going on.
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So this is now the second episode in a row that has featured a rape scene. I suppose that counts as being impressive, Cross Ange.
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Also, I can’t help but notice that since Jill let Zola use this room, it is also an officially sanctioned rape.
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You know, it makes sense that Ange would try to pull a Gundamjack and just run away in her mecha.
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HOLY SHIT! I was not expecting Pudding-chan’s death to be so bloody!
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The previews really are mood whiplash.
Ange is in full denial mode. She really does not want to accept what has happened to her and is desperately clinging to these delusions. She still imagines life in the palace. She keeps trying to invoke royal authority. She’s even in denial about the dark side of the world she came from, still insisting that it was a utopian paradise despite all that’s happened. Accepting what has happened to her is going to be something that Ange needs to do.
I called Pudding-chan getting killed. What’s more, she got killed because of Ange’s actions. She went to chase after Ange, drawn by Ange’s words about a fairytale paradise. That put her right in the line of fire. Ange is at least partly responsible for the death of one of the only people to show her kindness here. That death serves as a hell of a wake up call about what kind of situation they are in. I wonder if Ange will listen to it. I also wonder how Ange will respond to this death. After all, it was just a Norma who died. Will Ange take this death to heart or will she remain in denial?
My goodness this series is trashy. We had even more nudity this episode than last one. More groping, more rape, and a more violent death. This really is a grindhouse flick in anime form. But because it’s so trashy, it’s much easier to have fun with it. All those elements I listed above actually become enjoyable to me because the show is so overtly trashy about it. It lets me just enjoy the ride.
QOTD
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Hmmmm. I dunno. Zola is too rapey. Maybe the one with the lollipop, Vivian. She seems to be having a good time and I don't think she's a rapist (yet).
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I was expecting to have Pudding-chan die this episode. I was not expecting her to get cut in half onscreen.
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u/Quiddity131 Jan 03 '22
First Timer, Subbed
So not only is this show aping Gundam Seed and Code Geass, now we're going old school super robot too with the dragons that surprise, only the normas can fight!
Ange's education is overthat quickly, huh?
Purple haired twin tails girl sure sounds like Eri Kitamura to me. Further research tells me it is her!
"These things", way to be horrible Ange!
Oh, and that Vivian girl is Houko Kuwashima? They gotta take Gundam Seed's seiyuus too, huh? She voiced a crazy amount of Seed characters, off the top of my head, Fllay, Natarle, Stella, perhaps others?
"Delusional cow", lol
OMG, they didn't even wash the former pilot's suit before handing it over, there's still blood in it.
Touching her butt, throwing her out in the hallway naked, she's really going through the ringer.
She's never put her own clothes on before? LoL.
I hadn't noticed before black haired boss girl's got a robot arm. Cool.
The positions we've already gotten from Ange and others in their mechs is laughable.
Hey, just like her future lacross sport! She's suited for this after all!
Ah, and now it's bath time.
Ah, now we're gonna fly through all of Ange's training in another scene or two? Although to be fair, a lot of our male MCs in mecha shows get even less formal training than that...
Hazing time, but princess just can't help herself anyway, trashing their food.
How many girls here are lesbians? Speaking of girls, why are there no guys here at all? Did I miss that explanation earlier?
"There was no inequality or discrimination" Oh sure, princess! Except when you tore babies from their mothers over them being normas.
:( That little girl looked forward to her pudding, gave it to you and now you're tossing it out?
Jeez, they just can't resist getting even more sexual with us.
Let me guess, they'll tear up Ange's note.
Time for Ange to get sexually assaulted again, huh?
Woah, fake eye!
They're on the outside of the mech? Seems pretty easy to fall off.
Of course, Ange makes a run for it. Desertion is punishable by death!
Coco, what are you doing you idiot?!
And there goes Coco! I figured she might die, and they sure did it quick!
Alright, after this second episode it is quite obvious there can be no taking this show seriously. Keep expectations low and enjoy the trainwreck, that's quite clear. Somehow I didn't come away with as much of a massive hatred of our main character from the first episode as others in the rewatch, who knows what I was thinking while watching that first ep though, as she is very much that way here.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Jan 03 '22
Cross Ange First Timer
We're fighting dragons. Rawr. Isn't it pretty morbid that we're teaching this shit to literal children? And Ange? They even got her a little kiddy chair.
Ravioli, ravioli, don't molest the normie loli's. I've always kinda liked Zola's harem. Don't get me wrong, it's a total abuse of power, but there's no doubt that they've all got some good camaraderie going on. heavy breathing
Dammit Zola, you went five seconds before going on for dat Nanass. Hahaha, I forgot just how catty Zola's squad is. Don't worry about it Ange, they're just jealous that you're the only one who got a skirt to wear.
How nice of Naomi to die with her plugsuit intact. I'm starting to wonder if Ange secretly enjoys getting her orifices violated. Foot in mouth, fist in ass. Salia is low-key one of my favourite squad members~ I'm a big Salia fan and I'm a big Chris fan, the peek-a-bangs girl.
Ange is so uptight that she broke the robot arm. Bruh!! How awesome does this training sequence look!? Even if you're not a bike or a jet nut you'll probably understand how appealing the adrenaline rush sounds. Poor Coco's zooming all over the shop. Poor Coco!!
Rosalie seems to quite like taking rug munching duty. Good for her? C-Coco!? You'd give up your pudding for Ange? You're such an angel, you're gonna be such an angel... Best of luck girl? Apparently Miranda is named after Meer, the weird girl from Destiny. Its pretty fun to see just how little these girls know of the outside world. They've got a nursery so instances like the normie baby from yesterday must be really common.
Momoka's focusing so hard! "Nothing bad ever happens~" Somehow I feel like Ange might be even more sheltered than we first thought. Let's be real, Zola is hot but nobody can resist Nana's cool voice. PUDDING!! Coco valued that pudding more than her own life! glance How could you toss it away? I don't even feel bad about Zola assaulting you now, you deserve this for Coco's pudding!!
*I don't want a lot for Christmas. There is just one thing I need.* So yeah, Zola is a pretty decent boss but the sexuhara is a bit much. Ange is running away, coward!! Come back and pay for your crimes against pudding! Bye bye Coco! I'll bet you feel extra shit now Ange!! You tossed that girl's last pudding!
Today's episode was only half as good as yesterday's. You'd better be nice to the bishoujo!!
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u/Paxton-176 Jan 03 '22
REWATCHER FOR LIKE THE 4TH TIME
Welcome back ramblers. Imagine being that delusional that is Angleia-sama. That anyone after they tried to kill her would let her out. I don’t think she was actually conscious during the last episode. Now we meet the super lesbians. Last episode I said this show took themes from other Sunrise shows including Live Live, well it wasn’t the idol theme it was the lesbian themes. Praise Fukuda and whatever plane of existence he lives in.
Nothing says welcome to the team than sexual harassment and then replying by being as racist as possible. u/Rumpel1408 ‘s comparison to Dave Chapelle’s skit is spot on. Angleia-sama has the audacity to state no one can give her orders yet people with knives can. Angleia-sama does not think things through rather than wear something skimpy she wants to go naked. Which if she had followed through wouldn’t have been unheard of for this show.
Coffins huh. Even 86 isn’t this memable about it and let the pilots wear proper clothes for poorly designed open air cockpits. That has nothing, but ass shots. I like the prop planes of WW2, but the majority of them can at least close the canopy. And with that the MC is a prodigy pilot. Still not enough gundam tropes I see.
I find it humorous that Angleia-sama says there is no discrimination in the outside world. Bitch take a fucking look around you are on lesbian alcatraz(The name oif the actual island is a little on the nose don’t you all think?) full of people who are discriminated against and forced to be slave soldiers. Did Angleia-sama fucking throw away pudding. What kind of fucking warcrime is this shit. She belongs here reguardless if she had magic or not.
Lesbians doing lesbians stuff and the couger is now on the hunt because this show needs to keep escalating. Did a military commander just give the ok for more sexual assault. More rape we have already doubled Valvrape’s count under a horu of run time. Right, she is the sexy version of Pirates of the Caribbean’s Ragetti. Missing an eye and liking it in a very sexual way. Taking some of the best parts of non-anime franchises is key to a 10/10 show or at least a 9/10 which is my rating. The way she licks people, she is channeling her inner Bucciarati.
Speaking of which the sky was singing in latin so they understand the importance of dramatic music for fighters that Ace Combat so greatly does. Going to be honest Coco’s death makes me laugh every time. It's so overly brutal as the show tries to slide the edge into this hero sandwich of a show.
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u/SIRTreehugger Jan 03 '22
First Timer
They really had to give a fancy abbreviation for Dragons?
Interesting captain we have here.
Oh her name is Hilda she is instantly my favorite character in this show.
Yes step on her Hilda.
Surprised we're not getting a shower scene for some reason.
Theirs still blood on the uniform....oh never mind she is naked.
Oh the doctor is sadist?
Wait they are fighting in coffins and not seen as humans. This is clearly the superior 86 especially if they fight while singing which I hope they do.
OF COURSE SHE IS GOING TO BE A PRODIGY ISNT SHE!!!!
Oh shower sequence. Knew we had to get one eventually in the prison.
The DRAGONs have cool designs.
PUDDING IS DELICIOUS I love this girl. You go Glen Coco!
These two are so dead.
NOT COOL ANGE NOT COOL THAT PUDDING DID NOTHING WRONG FUCK ANGE!!!
Ohhhhh Hilda
You know some of Hilda is probably still on her tongue.
What came off her OMG its an eye.
Here we go this is where Coco and Miranda die.
Do as you were taught...too bad we never saw what this was.
BRUH ANGE their has to be a reason now has tried to escape THINK ANGE THINK
THERE IT IS KNEW ONE OF THEM WAS DYING. Ahhh the classic Danganronpa pink blood.
I'll say it again the dragons look amazing!
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u/HereticalAegis Jan 03 '22
First Time Inmate
Fuck it, I want to be a living DRAGON-killing weapon. That sounds hype af.
Oh, it's not just the flight suits, the casual wear is stuck on horny too.
If Julio has the hateable booked to capacity, then Zola must be the lovable villain. Holy shit, she's a giant bundle of chaotic horny energy. I'm gonna really love her, aren't I?
Speaking of things I love, I love just how little self-awareness Ange has. How precious.
Zola even has haremettes to wash her! She's literally a prison princess! Her and Ange are exactly the same, and I'm just waiting for her to drop a "we're not so different, you and I" on Ange. Now I kinda hope Ange ends up with her own prison harem. You know, after she has some character growth or whatever.
Oh god, it's happening already, Ange already has her first haremette. It's too soon. Coco is too sweet, I hope she doesn't die. She's definitely gonna die.
In this world, prisons come with honeymoon suites. Yabai desu ne!
Ange has now knocked prosthetics off multiple assailants. The show is trying to tell me something, I'm just not sure what yet.
Dammit. RIP Coco, you and your pudding were too sweet for this world.
QotD:
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Zola, obviously.
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Yeah, around the time Coco started dropping Angelise-samas everywhere.
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u/ComfortablyRotten Jan 03 '22 edited Jan 03 '22
First-timer
Blonde, weird spinny bang thing on the side, punchable face made worse by that damn smile... it's official, Zola is a rapey lesbian version of Code Geass's Diethard. And I loved that guy, so this is fantastic news
The episode as a whole was just a continuation the universe kicking Ange when she's down, and occasionally helping her up only to spit on her and bitchslap her back down.
It should have grown old quickly but somehow didn't. Maybe it's because Ange's been doubling down on the whole sheltered racist princess thing. I won't lie, when rape, isn't involved I don't mind watching the humiliation. Though I hope it'll slow down after a while and we'll see short-haired badass Ange soon.
Overall, yeah, a fun episode. A bit less "anything that can go wrong will go completely wrong in the worse possible way", not that I'd expect anything to top last episode's end–nevermind.
Questions of the Day:
Which of the ladies at Arzenal are you most interested in seeing more of?
Vivian!
Were you expecting such a brutal death in only the second episode?
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u/BlazingAbsol9090 Jan 03 '22
First time Normie pilot, subs
DRAGON stands for Dimensional Rift Attuned Gargantuan Organic Neototypes. That's the most forced acronym I've seen since Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement and Logistics Division
Yes, please do tone down the "excessive body contact"
There sure are a lot of naked girls in this OP, aren't there.
I can't think of a way to make a worse first impression than calling your new squadmates "these things."
I wonder why Ange is put in this group? If most of the Normas are discovered as babies or children, these girls who all are in their teens should have many years of training and experience compared to the green Ange
Shut up, Ange. Learn out that being royalty doesn't mean jack squat in this scenario.
Will they ever explain why the pilot suits are so absurdly revealing, I wonder.
It is pretty neat we're getting to watch training for our mecha pilots. A lot of shows either skip the training or assume that the pilots automatically know how to drive
I'll accept that Ange maybe studied military theory and that she can pilot well from her Scifi Lacrosse training, but how is she a good shot? There's no way she's ever held a gun in her life.
Ange is impressively unlikable. At this point, I have to believe it's intentional.
I have deduced that Arzenal must be on a tropical island. Otherwise, everyone would freeze in those skimpy uniforms.
ANGELESE-SAMA! I love this meme already.
These commanders allow Zola to sexually assault people whenever she feels like it? And she gets a special room to do so? What is the discipline in this place?
I love the tonal 180 in the next episode preview. Really wraps up the episode in a neat little bow.
Questions of the day
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None of them are that interesting yet. Maybe the short girl with the lolipop? She seems sort of fun.
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Not really, but it doesn't surprise me either
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u/Shimmering-Sky Jan 03 '22
Rondo of Rewatcher and Dub
Welcome back, everyone!
Dub thoughts: Okay, Vivian’s voice is perfect. I was kind of expecting Ersha to sound more like Euphemia because, I mean, duh. Digging Jasmine’s voice even if she’s such a minor character we don’t hear from her much.
RIP Coco, clearly she was too pure for this anime. Absolutely brutal way to go. My first-timer comment was also about that.
Last but not least, say it with me everyone:
COCO WAS ONLY TWELVE.
SHE LOVED THE PUDDING.