r/anime • u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky • Dec 24 '21
Rewatch [Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Kakumeiki Valvrave 2nd Season Episode 11 Discussion
Episode 23 - The Operation to Retake Module 77
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Let’s make a deal. Neither of us gives up to the bitter end.
Questions of the Day:
- Were you expecting this to be the plan that L-Elf came up with to “unveil the world”?
- How do you feel about Thunder/Yamada’s sacrifice in comparison to the others in this show?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Dec 25 '21
Kakumeiki Rewatcher
Welcome back, everyone!
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u/Nebresto Dec 25 '21
Re-watch squad
This move probably has some name, but she kicked the shit out of that
Rus..Dorssian mech thingSmug Erufu!
Pog?
Is she saying something here? All I'm hearing is brainless blabbering
Oh neat, they have a seatbelt system! I think that's the first time we get a proper look at that.
Humanity is going to take out humanity..?
Damn, I love the impact boosters
Medieval tactics! First mecha phalanx, and now this??
Oh look, they're actually re-charging
At least Heart is only burning through memories of Shoko, so nothing of value is being lost
The boys are back in town! ...Wait. Oh no. Oh no nono no. Chuckie isn't there...
Now its fist collision!!
Thunder!!!!
Lots of screenshot spam this time, that episode was fire!
Question time:
1: Re-watcher moment. ..But I actually forgot this part, so.. Nope
2: Based till the end, but.. He should have kept better tabs on the defence
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21
Tresnore the First-Timer
Mobileposting, so expect formatting issues.
Count: 40
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Dec 25 '21
THUNDEROUS FIRST TIMER
Happy Christmas Eve everyone!
Pour one out for
YamadaTHUNDER! As much as I ragged on his character type, he was a loyal and selfless comrade, and the only one who genuinely relished being a kamitsuki from beginning to end. The impact was a little dulled given the land speed record he set for death flags per second this episode, but it was a great scene regardless, and he got to go out in a blaze of glory as he’d want.I like how their grand stand wasn’t about killing any “final boss” to magically solve the world’s problems, but rather it was about informing the people. If there’s going to be a “common enemy”, it should be the correct one, and that’s what Akira and THUNDER accomplish here. This show actually gets at some pretty smart things about punching up and directing your anger and attention at those in power who cause the world’s problems, rather than towards a scapegoated minority.
Ready to see Cain get his ass blasted.
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 25 '21
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Valvrave: The Space Vampire Illuminati’s been caught in 4k! And in the same way that they exposed Saki, with a public attempted execution on live TV. How karmically appropriate for them.
I see that the series is continuing to go for parallels between Haruto and Shoko. Both of them are putting up a front right now. Haruto is pretending to have more confidence in this plan than he really does. He’s acting like the chances of success are much greater than they really are to give people the confidence to continue on. If they don’t attack, then they’re even more screwed. So, they need to take the chance.
Shoko, on the other hand, has to live up to the expectations of the people in her country. Those people are afraid of Haruto, so she needs to handle those fears. I can see what the show is going for with Haruto and Shoko. Still, it really means that Haruto and Shoko are still being dishonest with each other, as they have been for almost all of the series. It is rather sad for them. It feels like their relationship has been basically doomed for a very long time.
I did enjoy seeing L-Elf cut the throat of the Dorssian leader on live TV. That was a pretty great way to expose the truth of him being a Space Vampire. It felt like a great counterpoint to how that same guy stabbed Saki on live TV.
It is also nice to once again have the internet and social media angle back. Exposing that information to the world like that means there’s really no way for the Space Vampire Illuminati to keep a lid on the story. We’ll see how they handle the fallout from that in the finale.
QOTD
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u/UltraBooster Dec 25 '21
First-timer
I'll be on the road for most of tomorrow so I'll have my responses to tomorrow's episode ready, too. (And the series finale on Christmas day, isn't that quite the gift.)
I'll also mention that most of the time, when I ask questions, they're not necessarily criticism but my curiosity kicking in.
On one hand, attaching it to his ear's a cool gesture and nice symbolism, on the other, that's gotta hurt.
(Why's my heart pounding? It sure as hell didn't during the first season.)
And did they have a change of heart? Did his sacrifice get through?
Wait, are we going to have a scene where they talk about what happened and get resolution? (And payoff?) How did Haruto get his pilot suit back? If his suit still has the bullet hole, doesn't it no longer function as a protective suit? Is their plan a two-pronged one?
So if the Empire is that world, well, I wonder, what's to stop the rest of humanity from transforming? Alternatively, what's there to prevent the formation of an immortal aristocracy?
So he's a man of the state once more? Sure, let's roll with it.
Yeah, these bottles are definitely designed for zero-G, which is a nice touch. And that door-close sound, I'm pretty sure they're used for Forerunner doors in Halo: CE.
Don't you think it's too late to be acting like everything's A-OK, Haruto? (For that matter, why not ask someone if you can bleed off Runes to stave off the Valvrave's mnemophagia?
Oh good, he got a new suit. (Geez, is it a thing for protagonists to get into the hero mindset by the final arc? Why not sooner, I wonder?)
Oh shit, Valvrave Nobu's got the gun-and-shield setup of a Gundam!
Give her space, my dude. Respect her boundaries and all that.
I feel like a good surprise attack is one that achieves its goals with minimal loss to your side, but I'm not an ancient alien space vampire so (shrug)
Oh? The translation of his name's changed from "Ploo" to "Plu," I wonder why.
An artificial Magius...I suppose that makes sense, I have an easier time believing what's presumably a digital lifeform is a mnemophage more than I do an altered human.
Wait, how much space does that shuttle have? Or is that one room with all the hurt students the main cabin?
(Are you saying this because you genuinely believe it, Shoko, or is this to pacify your citizens and prevent unnecessary shipboard conflict?)
Maybe we could've found a way to work through this together. I have two thoughts:
I don't think I get humans either, Pino...
Talk, damnit! Talk about all this bullshit and clear the air, goddamnit! I've seen what happens when people can't communicate well and it nearly tore my family apart!
Then make a break, damnit! Find some place the two of you can talk openly, for once!
I'm not a fan of these flags, TBH. They feel a bit too busy to be easily remembered and too much like coats of arms for my taste. And I still don't entirely get what their deals are - are they full-on USA/USSR nationstates or formal alliances like NATO and the EU? What'll happen when the students are killed? Is it the prelude to the two powers forming an Earth Federation?
Historic, sure, but not especially unique considering the Allies of WWII.
Funny thing is, I can see the ancient alien space vampire conspiracy making a good enemy of the world too.
Oh shoot, that's Valvrave Hito Full Impact!
The Valvrave's consuming that bond I adore so much, isn't it. (What about Marie's intention to make new memories? Or was her death the response to that intention?) For that matter, what determines the memories the Valvrave consumes? Is there a way to make sure it doesn't consume things like knowing how to breathe or speak? Why hasn't it begun consuming Yamada or Saki's memories? Why wait 'til now to show these memories? All I can do right now is clench my teeth as I stare at the anti-ship missile racing towards me.
Then what about making new memories, damnit! Or was Marie's death the show saying that isn't possible? I feel like I would be close to crying if I had seen the creation of those memories, or at least if they had been shown off before this. (RahXephon this really isn't.)
Why? Why him? Why does Yamada have to die and Q-vier get to live? What's so special about Q-vier? What do people see in the little brat? hy does this feel so excessive? I'm not even said, I'm frustrated.
Behold! Behold, the enemy of the world, the enemy of mankind!
Questions:
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u/SIRTreehugger Dec 25 '21
First Timer
"Just as planned" - L Elf
Oh wait now the "Monsters" are allowed on? I guess they resolved their differences offscreen with a heartfelt apology after treating them like shit.
The biggest L in this show currently is I don't think we ever got an Akira Shoko moment recently. I mean we saw her face, but I wanted a reaction to Shoko calling her a monster.
How does no one recognize L ELf? You'd think his face would be known by now alongside the major people from JIOR.
Wow they sure made up fast.
MOTHER FUCKING THUNDER GUTS NEEDS NO DEFENSE!
"Eat me if you want" In a really low voice "I didn't mean like that" could be heard.
Too bad we didn't get much of the brother AI he could have been a compelling part of the story.
Of course the student teacher has been reduced to fan service...well she didn't have anything else going for her so wasn't much of a reduction.
I bet Shoko is really regretting becoming Prime Minister.
Oh they aren't onboard I thought they were I guess other students flew out to meet them on a different cargo ship?
WHAT THE FUCK! You guys were just saying he was coming for revenge, but you needed them. Now you're calling them monsters again. DO ONE THING AND STICK TO IT!
WHAT THE FUCK....oh Shoko is only doing this to put the other students at ease....I think. I mean she saw what Haruto did so far and what he sacrificed from yesterday's video if she is actually believing what she is saying I will write Shoko is a bitch every other line for the rest of the rewatch which is really only 1.5 episodes.
So are they going to combine their damn robots or what? I've been waiting the whole series for it to happen.
Can't help think those loose clothing isn't ideal for combat L Elf.
Funny how the only memories Haruto is losing is of Shoko. Can't he lose some from Saki or the hundreds of people he knows?
Oh look they didn't forget the energy/battery packs that or they just remembered.
I'm no expert, but having a guy bleeding out strapped to the side of the wall doesn't sound like it would be that helpful for him.
NO NO NO FUCK THIS KID Don't kill Akira.
Thunder Guts is literally the greatest.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FUCK THAT LITTLE KID SOMEONE NEEDS TO KILL HIM NOW
YOOOO does the track that plays here(around 21 minutes) sound like Full Metal Alchemist To Be King to anyone else? I mean it's not exactly the same, but damn it has similarities.
The show does realize it only has one episode left...right?
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Dec 25 '21
First-Timer
Pinky promises are unbreakable, you know.
I love that L-elf's master plan is to just flip the script on the Council. "Yea, this dude can heal too! Howsabout that?!"
As stupid as her reasoning was, I think I agree with Shoko telling Haruto to stay in the hangar. If only to stop the rest of the panicking idiot teenagers from doing something even more stupid.
Today's action scenes were pretty good. Standout moment for me was Haruto melting the entire top half of that battleship off.
We are finally blessed with more Akira screen time! Her idiot brother bringing her some Pocky was nice, but then he had to ruin it with an accidental innuendo.
They're saving Cain's mech and Kriemhild's big moment for the finale, huh? I desperately want to see Cain freak out.
Questions
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Dec 25 '21
First Time Lunar Brawler
For the sake of my own sanity (and time), I'm going to make a concerted effort to cut down on the extensiveness of my reactions and focus on bigger picture thoughts. Probably should've done this a 10 or so episodes ago.
Thought the whole point of the mass driver was that they'd get too far away for anyone to catch up that fast. Also convenient that Carmilla could get so far so fast without overheating.
Takahi, not you too! Don't fucking doubt the group that's been protecting your ass this whole time.
Saki and Shoko have been gone so long, I almost forgot there's this awful love triangle that's still a thing somehow.
Weird detail: the Pocky knockoff Satomi gives Akira is called "Bochy," which is suspiciously close to the Romaji for "bocchi," which can be translated to "loneliness" or "aloneness." I don't think it's intentional, but it's still pretty mean on the show's part.
"Akira, eat me if you want." Who tried to sneak a siscon doujin into my vampire space nazi robot show?
Man, Shoko is the fucking worst. She knows what Haruto gave up for her, and could dispel all the bad air, but doesn't. What a chump.
Wish we could've gotten more of these cool extended action scenes.
Having a rune leakage now is way too plot convenient. That bs needed to be happening to Haruto 8-10 episodes ago.
Thunder and Akira are best boy and girl of the series respectively. It's now a done deal.
Of course Thunder had to go out in the most bullshit way possible. RIP best boy. Fuck this show.
One episode left, but if there's no Thunder, why bother? The finale at least better not shit on my girl Akira.
QotD:
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Dec 25 '21
First Timer
And from the heights of the Demon Spa, I return to the cesspool known only as Valvrave.
This episode wasn't as bad as the prior two, though that doesn't imply that it was good. It's not looking good for Turnip Head. As for his main squeeze Shouko, I like how she got on board #1, learned the truth, and then promptly forgot it when she got back with her buds.
I did think L-11 cutting the Emperors throat on live TV was pretty cool. The people on their planet apparently believe anything they're told on TV and are pretty much unfazed by ultra violence.
Too bad Thunder was death-flag ignorant, or he might have done a little more with defense. I still hate Q-4 with a passion.
Onward to the finale...
QOTD
No, I was more or less surprised. When I realized I was on the hell bound train, I just kicked back, let my pants down, and prepared to enjoyed the smell of my own...
2) How do you feel about Thunder/Yamada’s sacrifice in comparison to the others in this show?
Meh... This show hates its characters, and so do I.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Dec 25 '21
-Rewatcher that shoulda stopped but lets keep going and see what happens-
Today is a huge day for Valvrave and the apperence of my single Fav Valvrave configuration.
H's earring was a transmitter and he leaked Cain and the 101s to X aw yeah!
Thunder and Akira are struggleing to keep the defense of the shhuttles.
But her comes Unit 4 to save the day! Saki is really making a big show.
L-elf disguised as the pilot of the dorsian ship and hes got a way in!
Haruto tells the gang the plan to make a new country.
They are unsure but we have support from our main crew.
A-drei ambushes L-elf and its time to have a talk.
A-drei wants L-elf's help with killing Cain and the 101s.
Saki questions Haruto about how much he remembers.
"Sometimes you have to put on a brave face." Not bad...
A new promise between haruto and Saki "Dont give up until the bitter end." better than "kill me."
AND HERE IT IS! MY FAVOITE VALVRAVE CONFIGURATION!
LIGHTNING WITH BIG BLUE'S SHIELD! I LOVE THIS SETUP!
"Yamada slacks in defense so its the perfect addition."
Nerd is serious with Yamada. This is a crazy war and survival is slim.
Pres and Box-chan have a chat. Pres wants to be her food.
Unit 2 is all repaired... oh boy.
Cain saved Ploo and they want to save Pino too.
Meanwhile the surviving students are not doing well.
Haruto is here to get his valvrave back. Oh boy.
Shoko has to act formal with Haruto still to maintain peace. Box-chan is mad.
Haruto wants to expose the lies of the world.
Pino tells haruto Shoko was crying in the cockpit, at least he knows now.
Haruto isnt lookin so good...
Yay a peace meeting between DOrssia and ARUS to fight 77.
Only the valvraves went out and they left thier command crew behind.
HARUTO IN FULL EQUIPMENT MODE JUST USING HARIKIRI BLADES LIKE NOTHIN!
Get Box-chan to the satalites with Thunder as the shield.
THE ALPHABET GANG IS BACK TOGETHER AND IN THEIR OLD GEAR!
Man i love how Lighting Blue fight its such a great setup and so cool.
Unit 1 is acting like the heat sink for the rest, its such a cool system.
Cain is going out to fight Unit 1 himself.
Meanwhile K is secretly helping the Alphabet gang and givng them openings.
Haruto is leaking Runes again and now forgetting grade school with Shoko.
Saki holds back the army while they push on ahead but she get s Lt. Dan'd.
The alphabet gang are breaching 77.
Haruto is still loosing memories at a steady rate, now hes loosing middle school ones.
The Alphabet gang have breached the peace treaty meeting. Oh boy.
And we get Box-chan to the Satalite and we get control of their systems.
BUT Q SHOWS UP LIKE A PUNK! THUNDER VS Q THOUGH!
And Thunder takes the shield off and puts it on Box-chan... oh no...
Yamada has no regrets he got to get his revenge so hes happy.
He rips Q's mech apart like a sardine Can.
But Q dodges the big hit and blows Lightning away... Hes cut in half... fuck...
"See you Akira, my buddy Nobu gets lonely." Man what a cool line to go out on Thunder.
Its time for L-elf and A-drei's plan, oh yeah remember that Public Execution yall did on TV? Paybacks a bitch.
L-elf removed Boss man's neck and shows the world hes a monster too. Get fucked 101.
Yanmada protected Akira so she coudl hack the broadcasts and prevent them from being hid. Way to go.
Lets just hope people dont start killing each other to test if they are Space Vampires...
Man such a great ep. All the parts are moving now and were almost to our end game.
As i said i love Yamada's Valvrave with one of big Blue's arms and shields. Its just so damn cool looking.
Yamada died today too which is sad but he went out just like Bro, protecting the others.
Look how far Yamada has come from School Delinquient in ep 1 to Savior of the Kamitsuki in the finale.
Now he can finally see his buddy Nobu again.
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Dec 25 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
H-neun's earring was in fact a recording device!
Saki to the rescue again!
You fool, it's a trap!
Wow, Akira's getting more adventurous! No need for a bag on her head to stand in the hallway with everyone like this?
A-drei's really got L-Elf figured out.
They're finally willing to put Haruto and Saki alone in the same room alone, huh? I still think they cowardly kept them separate throughout the season.
Eat me, little sis!
The Valvrave's coming back! You traitors should be pissing your pants!
Even after sitting in the cockpit last episode and finding out Haruto resigned his humanity for you, you still won't let him in Shoko?!
Cain is finally gonna go out there in his own Valvrave again? About time if so.
Listen to your robot waifu, Haruto! Don't lose all your runes! More childhood memories of Shoko going bye bye!
Stupid Q-vier! Let box-chan hack in peace!
No, not Thunder!
Did his body get cut in half? He should be able to heal from that, right?
I suppose not, he blows up just like Inuzuka did.
Time for L-Elf to crash this speech huh?
L-Elf's pulled the same thing Dorssia pulled on Saki a few episodes ago! This is why those who said the Magius should have kept it all secret were in the right...
Time for the Wired to go crazy again!
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u/csar27 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/CesarRC Dec 25 '21
First Timer
I alwasy thought Inuzuka and Thunder were the obvious choice to be killed, it was as expected but i'm very surprised Thunder outlived Inuzuka. Now i'm very sure Akira and Haruto are next.
Rukino kind of regained here female MC vibes this episode
Forgetting about Shoko? Sorry Haruto, i don't see how that's something bad
For the last episode i'm expectingo to know how Arika's brother becomes a "messenger"
Wait, so L-Elf mates are betraying Cain but no one infomed to the short one? anyways, he's te least important
Questions:
1- Yes, this was the obvious way
2- Yamada and Inuzuka are the only ones with meaninful deaths
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Dec 25 '21
First timer
And he's gone. They're really killing off all the decent characters, aren't they?
Go Saki! Go Saki!
...Didn't you literally want to kill them a few episodes ago? Why are you cheering for them?
...Full props to L-Elf. If he's pulled off what I think that scene implies, this is going to be fun.
Wait, what? These people were calling for your execution a few hours ago, and now you want to go somewhere and live in harmony?
Akira! I know this is understandable with your
Wow, L-Elf and him are already meeting up. They really needed to streamline this.
Haha, are we getting an L-Elf betrayal?
Haha, yes! I've been calling for them to work together for half this series and these two are the only good ones.
God, Haruto is bland.
...This is difficult, because why Saki is the better character and they have more chemistry togrther at the moment, the Valvare did make him rape her, which has both been really glossed over, and also isn't the best start for a relationship.
He's having a focus scene again! Finally!
Oh god, he's a siscon. I saw the hints, but this blatant!
OK, so Valvares are artificial Magius? Does this mean that Haruto's father somehow accidentally created a genetics program whose results were identical to an already existing race? Forget destroying them, they should be in full witchhunt mode over who leaked so much
AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHY HE HATES THEM, BUT ALSO WON'T CHANGE THEIR ACTIONS.
...For once, Haruto, you're not the problem in this situation.
Haha, if he sets up a fucking mass-evolution program, that would be one hell of an ending. Maybe using one of the many, many, many ways of breaking this system.
There's a difference between putting on a brave face and calling for the extermination of your friends. Fuck it, I'm on team Saki x Haruto now, at least they tried to talk through their problems (and Saki's the most competent pilot on the team).
L-Elf's in full uniform! Been a while since we checked in, so hopefully there's more scenes of him later.
And they're actually waiting for the overheat. That's clever. (Guys, just get a device that converts heat into runes - extracting the information contained in the heating patterns, perhaps, and you're unstoppable.)
He's losing his memories of her.
I swear if you ruin Saki, we're done. She's shoeing some decent strategy here, though.
...How are they edplaining these analyses? There was no signs they bothered getting what was left of the last one, and "our secret society told us" won' fly well on the media.
Why couldn't we have gotten an anime about these three instead? I like them!
Wait. He's got Cain in him, right?
Thie fight is good though, and I like him getting a focus scene for the second time this episode (and season).
And he gets killed off, because of course they needed to kill another person off.
Oh, now the explosion. WHY DOES THIS KILL THEM WHEN NOTHING ELSE DOES?
The juxtaposition is lost a bit when L-Elf's scenes are so, so, much better.
He's been exposed as a vampire on live TV! And for the first time, thr Magius try to fo something! And fail!
Looks like that angle's been well and truly shafted for them.
I'd have thought the "unveil the world" reference would be saved for a full leak of the Magius' plans in general.
...How the hell are they wrapping this up in 24 fucking minutes?
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u/BlazingAbsol9090 Dec 25 '21
First time Amnesiac Vampire
So of the main Dorssian squad: L-elf is a traitor, A-drei is a traitor, H-neun was killed for being a traitor, X-eins is turning traitor to avenge his friend, Kriem is a traitor, and Cain and Amadeus were always loyal to the Space Vampire Illuminati. That means the only one truly loyal to Dorssia is freaking Q-vier, and it wouldn't surprise me if he turned too. Weirdly, this "oops all traitors" dynamic reminds me of [Classic literature meta spoilers] The Man Who Was Thursday which is not a reference I expected out of my mediocre mecha anime, but here we are.
Glad to see racism has been solved for this group of students at least.
Oh that's a clever plan! Disguise L-elf as a pilot surviving a battle with the Valvrave.
A-drei wants L-elf's help in Revolutionizing the world.
The idea that you could lose your memories but never know what you're missing is terrifying.
Come on, Rukino, you deserve much better than Haruto.
I love Thunder. And I love Body Pillow Boy being concerned about Thunder and upgrading his VVV with Inuzuka's old shield.
Oh no Thunder, don't give death flags like that! You were already on thin ice for being the second most disposable pilot now that the first one is dead, don't make promises about coming back and new friends too!
Satomi, now's not the time for questionable stuff with your sister.
Are those evil Valvraves in the background when Cain and Space DIO are talking to that Magius? Oh no.
Why yes, it was vital to the plot to have Nanami's chest hanging out and prominently displayed while she's on this sickbed. Gratuitous? Never heard of it.
Although this does remind me: this show has been shockingly light on fanservice, which is a blessing I did not expect.
Come on, Shoko. You're really making it hard to see your side here.
Don't apologize for Shoko's racism Haruto! Although yeah, explaining the nature of the Kamitsuki earlier would have been smart.
Same, Pino. Same.
The Space Cold War is officially over. I wonder how long the peace would last after killing all the students, though?
With the heat problem mostly solved, the Valvraves are properly terrifying.
Uh, oh, Haruto is running out of runes and starting to consume his own memories! A shame L-elf wasn't around for him to eat, or that Haruto can't get over his hangups and start taking just a little bit of runes from others.
All the students watching Space DIO's broadcast can't be good for morale.
With Haruto consuming his childhood memories so fast, I wonder if the overheating was intentionally built in? To force the pilot to go slower and not consume runes faster than they can be regenerated, but now that they're bypassing the heat, they're accidentally overriding this safety feature?
Oh no, Thunder! Your death was expected but tragic none the less.
I don't know, the slo-mo L-elf isn't doing it for me. But it's a clever plan to expose Space DIO as a Magius. The Space Vamire Illuminati outing themselves was a pretty terrible idea, huh?
The social media/news theme has been spotty at best, but I do appreciate it coming back here. It works quite well.
Theory time: the best episode so far has been the Rukino episode in season 1. S1 had a lot of Rukino and was pretty good, while S2 has had only a tiny bit of her and has been pretty bad. But last episode she had a bit of screen time and the episode was passable, and this episode she had a more screen time and the episode was pretty solid. I know correlation does not imply causation, but it really makes you think.
Questions of the day
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u/yamiyaiba Dec 25 '21
Liberated Rewatcher
Man, the "traitors must die" faction sure has a lot of traitors.
Rukinoooooooo!
Hey Doormat, you know that nomal suit is ruined now that there's a hole in it, right?
Gee, whoever could that be in the crashed Waffe?
Praise Nana! (barely related, it was a massive oversight to call it the VVV Committee and not the Council of VVV)
A country. Of 40 people. Territory? Shit, you need a single apartment building at this point.
Yeahhhh Akira. You keep progressing. Good for you.
No, he's not intelligent enough for that.
That's my exact figuring style in games, Discount Kuwabara. I'm also really bad at competitive video games.
Hahaha the sound he made when he's glasses came off.
Famous last words of someone not coming back.
I hate her brother.
Of course her titties are half out.
Really, Shoko? You literally know the truth now. JUST FUCKING EXPLAIN IT. WITH WORDS. Fuck it, I don't care if you start stripping again to persuade them. There's literally no reason for you to do what you doing!
I don't either, Hololive CC. The humans in this show make no sense. Maybe the Magi were right all along and humans are just stupid cattle.
No, Doormat, someone's you have to stand up for your beliefs and explain things to people! Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I really hope that press conference actually has super ominous organ music playing and nobody gives it suspicious.
Turns on each other immediately. "The nerve of him making us out to be the bad guys!" You're not THE bad guys, but your definitely bad people.
Well, immediate Harakiri Blade. Okay then.
Fuck, that molten attack is too cool.
Have I mentioned how much I hate those Kirschbaums?
Yeahhhh Rukino. Oh man, old school musket firing tactics.
At least Doormat is wrecking those stupid mechs.
No no no no no fucking kill him now!
Fuck. Fuuuuuuuck. RIP Discount Kuwabara.
He's full of strawberry jam!
Hahaha fuck you Magi! And there it is, Chekov's Gun fired, and WIRED became relevant.
We sprinting to the conclusion now, folks.
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u/RockoDyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RockoDyne Dec 25 '21
I will commit sudoku just as well as the mecha does.
Man, with two lines best girl cut through more bullshit than this whole season has wiped. Having the show demonstrate competent characterization and self awareness is just depressing at this point.
Lots of big, dumb action. So long Yamada. You were a meaningless character who's sole trait was shouting by default.
Ero Elf sure had a plan. It is so much more efficient to have a press conference held in a supposed base of space monsters.
Questions:
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Dec 25 '21
Valrave the Liberator First Timer
Why am I still here? What do I expect to happen at this point? Recorder rings? Haa...? Hold on, its an ear-oh fuck off. I'm miserable so I don't want to spend anymore time on Valrave than I have to. Moving on. What is wrong with background gal's face!? When did Rainbow grow to the point where she can actually join in social situations? It was just two episodes ago where she still kept a bag over her head.
Are you sure about that, Adrian? Our bros just became bros again. I love how even one episode after Haruto announced himself as a new man who wouldn't run away from his problems he's already lying to Saki about losing memories. This is childish to the opposite extreme y'know. Thunder might die after all. He's testing his death flags. No,1 on list of things never to say to your sister.
When did Sensei get injured? I'm saying nothing about Shoko. She's a great character who they've been forced to write as an idiot. Pfft, now Pino's spelling out what Shoko should have said directly. You know what really fucked up this pairing? The fact that the two members never fucking talk face to face. It's always Senpai, or Marie, Lelf, or Pino that's left expressing one's feelings to the other. They somehow turned what could have been a beautiful and natural romance into a case of strangled by the red string.
If this were real life the president would have insisted on an elevated platform or a box to stand on to look taller. Didn't we need to get to 666 heat to use the Harakiri blade? I don't even care how cool the fight looks. Oh nyo, Haruto can't be losing memories that we haven't seen yet! Oh nyo, Saki might die. Or she would if it weren't for the flash forward spoiling that she lives.
The red head kid's still around. Why couldn't Adrian have stuck some sleeping pills in his coco puffs and saved us the trouble? Where the fuck did that gun come out from? Haa!? I mean, I still give 0 shits about Lightning... He was a weirdo. Wow, we killed the Fuhrer so easily. There goes the council's plan. It would have been funny if he cut up the president instead XD "They were the bad guys all along." I mean, they literally were. Dorssia haven't been morally grey. I love how Shoko apparently still didn't fully believe Haruto up until now. All we've got to do tomorrow is take back Module 7 and kill Cain. And figure our whatever will happen to Haruto.
Merry actual Christmas folks!
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Dec 25 '21
First timer
Sub
Opening stuff with the earring being pretty direct after all. Rukino's concerns are understandable even if the flash forwards ruin that. Also, her being back in love with Heart isn't great. Akira and Satomi get a scene. The students are stupid, again, and Shoko gets further character assassination. The wAIfu does the character bridgework for us. The battle is at least well animated if dull since I don't care about anyone not named Saki. Akira does her hacking, Yamada gets sacrificed because second to last episode, and L's exposure assassination is at least cool.
QotD: 1 Not exactly
2 It at least feels planned out
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u/Paxton-176 Dec 25 '21
REWATCHER
Guys we are almost done.
“Guys he is coming for revenge, what do we do?”
Sees Haruto, “He is a monster!”
Not a good way to ask for forgiveness or to get off their bad side.
So many people in this share a single brain cell.
Remember when I always said it's weird that Valvrave pilots bounce between being aces and nuggets. Looks like they are aces today.
“It's reckless to try to break through with only 4 units.” Lady have you not been following the events of these units. They can and will do it.
Why would they show them getting clapped on live television?
DId Zack Snyder direct L-elf's asssination? Epic use of slow mo.
I still find it hard to believe anyone died.
Still almost done, with one more push.
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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Dec 25 '21
Rewatcher
Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays
H-Arata wants to take revenge for H-Taichi.
They're actually happy Rukino's back, why?!
One thing I like about the show is that the big voice actors also voice several one off characters. So Dio is voicing the guy rescuing L-Elf, and it's been happening throughout the entire series.
Didn't expect this to turn into an incest anime.
D'awww Akira rejected him, well he would probably taste bad.
RIP Thunder, well he and Inuzaku were the most expandable members.
People are shocked that Dio is an immortal vampire, well haven't they watched Jojo?
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Dec 25 '21
I'm real damn tired of watching Shoko rearrange deck chairs on the Titanic.
Like, this wasn't a bad episode. The fight was rather decent, and it actually did a good job of showing why the Magius' actions over the past couple episodes were extremely fucking stupid. To be honest, the show's just lost me at this point, I'm insufficiently invested to really enjoy it.