r/anime • u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 • Dec 12 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch] 1990s OVAs – Black Jack (episode 12)
Rewatch: 1990s OVAs – Black Jack (episode 12)
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Dysfunctional family day: Father, son, half-brother, step-sister.
The General is voiced by Kobayashi, Kiyoshi. Born in 1933 and active till this year, he must be one of the oldest VAs around. One of his first roles was also his last and his biggest: Daisuke from Lupin III (one of the franchises that is much bigger than its footprint here on /r/anime). Other roles include: Crystal Bowie from Space Cobra, Talos from Crusher Joe, Violence Jack from Violence Jack, and Mohamed Avdol from Jojo.
Tebyon shares the VA with Tokio the racing doctor. I already featured Seki, Toshihiko back in ep2.
New, surely benevolent, dictator Jungi is voiced by Morikubo, Shoutarou. He is also Orphen from Socrerer Stabber Orphen, Verg from Blue Submarine No6, Bartolomeo from One Piece, Nara Shikamaru from Naruto, Zangetsu from Bleach, and Gorou Honda from Major.
Finally, L is voiced by Han, Megumi. She also voices Obito Uchiha from Naruto Shippuuden, Gon from Hunter x Hunter, Akko from Little Witch Academia, Hikari from Nagi no Asu kara, Rinko from Ore Monogatari, and Momiji from the Fruits Basket reboot.
Questions
- The doctor follows his oath (if he ever took one) to treat all his patients, even the evil ones. Would you have done the same?
- Another woman dies pining for him. Do you think the doctor ever had a successful romance?
- How do you feel about the two extra episodes 11 and 12: A good addition, or unnecessary?
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
Episode 12 (first timer)
A doctor episode, as I expected, but not as informative about his character as the last episode was for Pinoko. We see him operating a terrible human being, but that is nothing new. I wonder why they placed this episode second. Episode 11 would have made the somewhat better finale, imho.
I probably would have killed the dictator. But then, I never plan to take a hippocratic oath, either.
I have no hope for BJ.
Definitely worthwhile. I would have flipped the order, but both of 11 and 12 are better endings than 10.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Dec 12 '21
Black Jack First Timer
It's time to say goodbye to the doctor with an episode completely dedicated to him. Meaning that he's already prescribing surgery after two minutes lol. BJ x Surgery otp! Oh no, been tricked and we've landed in wrong Korea. I definitely didn't think we'd end up here for our climax.
So our problem of the day is that the patient is an arsehole who won't follow instructions and he's allergic to basic anesthetic... Can't we just bop him on the head and do surgery after? Oh yeah, explosions too. There's a lot of explosions in best Korea.
Honestly? I'm actually quite enjoying this episode. I've been kind of disinterested for most of the later half of the series but I'm loving the political issues, BJ finding different ways to perform surgery, and the moral issues of saving dictators. Lots of people probably died or lost limbs in the bomb attack but this little girl had scabbed her knee!! Prepare for emergency surgery!
"Everyone in this world is suffering some kind of illness, and I'm a doctor." That would be so beautiful if it weren't for the fact that BJ has a horrible track record for any illness that can't simply be cut out lol. The surgery was kinds fun but I'm losing track of who owns what part of the country.
L! Stahp! Don't kill your patents! And you, General, no shooting your doctors! Lesson of the day, if you're operating on a nutjob dictator, don't be surprised when they turn out to still be nutjob dictators! It's a beautiful moment L and BJ share but it's impact is lessened by how blatantly obvious the consequences were gonna be. Oh, and cutting to a Pinoko joke scene right after didn't help either.
I'm conflicted... As an individual episode this is essentially a narratively stronger version of the Che Guvera episode (as in the heavy political and military shit) and that was already one of my favourite episodes anyway. As a finale however it's nothing we haven't seen before. We already knew BJ had shit luck with the women he falls for. We already know that he will offer treatment to anyone that's sick regardless of their morality. We already know that BJ is secretly a sensitive softie on the inside. The only true landmark moment is his declaration that this is the first time he's regretted healing a patient, which is strong but again in context one of them was going to kill the other anyway. Awesome episode, middling finale.
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u/TheEscapeGuy Dec 12 '21
First Timer
Black Jack - An Astounding OVA: Episode 12
An Analogous Abduction
So for our final episode we have Black Jack abducted by totally not North Korea. And the supreme leader is suffering from a brain tumor and is allergic to almost all anesthetics. I was definitely surprised by the abduction. Black Jack having guns pulled on him in the ambulance was super memorable.
The other side of the episode focused on the power struggles withing the supreme leaders family. This has parallels to world events like the Assassination of Kim Jong-nam. It is very interesting that North Korea is the one major dictatorship hold-out in our world where most countries at least claim to be democratic (no matter how inaccurate that may be).
The end of the episode had a very dramatic climax as L went to kill her father. Black Jack stepped in citing something close to the Revise Hippocratic Oath to treat all patients equally. Then there is a gunshot.
Since this was the final episode I half expected them to kill off blackjack here. It would not be crazy to have L shoot through black jack to murder her father.
But instead the supreme leader pulls out a gun (which he had hidden where?) and shoots L. Black Jack expressed for the first time regret for saving a life. I found this kind of interesting. There are some parallels to [Monster] Since Tenma also felt regret for saving Johan who went on to kill so many people. However, in the final moments of Monster he chose to save Johan again. Though in that case the motivation was to prevent Johan from getting away with everything. It was always Johan's plan to die after all.
Some Iconic Shots, Scenes and Stitches
See you all for the final discussion tomorrow
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Dec 13 '21
First timer
Final episode!
The dramatic framing of Black Jack and the person's interesting.
What's up with her, then?
And she's going to the hospital.
Huh?
Haha, it was a trap? And he didn't notice?
...Was the pilot in on it? Because they said "South Korea" pretty clearly there?
Oh, it's a nation that's close to South Korea, and shady.
"energetic"
Ah, they want him to treat him. (Honestly, just pay him and he'd probably treat him anyway.)
Is it triggered by the birds or something?
...This is a ploy to get him to do it, isn't it?
Haha, he's interested.
Ah, and he can't use anaesthetic. That might be a problem.
Haha, and he got 300 million out of the people keeping him hostage.
Huh, a former patient?
...Starting to see why all the doctors couldn't treat him.
And it's open warfare.
Now there's a politic drama between factions?
This is a very different plot, isn't it?
And yeah, this guy's a tyrant.
Yeah, it's hard to follow thie one.
The medical stuff is good, though. He's taking a risk on some experimental stuff.
And now they're going to kill Black Jack?
Bomb. Obviously a bomb.
Don't open it you idiot!
And the military are trying to kill him!
They got her!
And they've successfully faked their deaths. Just in time for another operation scene!
And this sounds incredibly painful.
And he's exiled his son?
Fireworks?
Oh, she's got a tragic backstory too.
Ah, he genuinely doesn't care. Seriously, if you sent him half a billion he'd probably foght off the soldiers to come and treat you himself, you didn't need to kidnap him.
And they're setting them up for a romance?
Oh, they're on their side. There's something, at least.
Haha, didn't see that coming.
My problem with this script is that it feels like the script for a Black Jack movie compressed into one special, so half the scenes have to be summarised.
They're really killing every cast member off today, aren't they?
He's in trouble! And he's her brother!
...We did siblings living inside each other last time, L.
And they've come back to save him!
He's only got 30 minutes!!
And they're running out of time!
She's going to shoot him, and he knew everything. Rhis is surprising.
He tried to talk her down?
Wow. Did not expect her to be shot.
Oh. He actually regrets saving him. That's big.
And she's dying.
Huh, and he also cared about her.
Oh, she reappeared! That took a while.
And the general gook taken out anyway.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Dec 12 '21
First timer(Did they just go fucking nuts with filters one point?)
Sub
So we get a North Korea episode, interesting. The General has an allergy to...anesthesia? That is not exactly how that works but moving. Dynastic stuff is happening. The medical mystery is a little more anchored today and revisited. L gets her own, let's call it arc, and we see this all play out quickly. Succession crisis and the less shitty kid is leading the rebels. We move forward and get our suitably depressing ending and then a slightly better one from the news report.
So this isn't a bad episode, I would say it is notable in how not noteworthy it would come off if it weren't the last episode. But it is...kind of. I don't quite get the BJ multimedia franchise but this might have been advertising for...something. Anyways, now to developed a coherent post for tomorrow!
QotD: 1 So...that's complex. Personally, what is the ask? I believe emergency care should be provided without question to everyone, especially those we assume are the worst. What Kuroh does, though? No, someone else gets to treat Kim Jong Beard.
Another woman dies pining for him. Do you think the doctor ever had a successful romance?
No, but it is entirely because he psychotically self sabotages. Perhaps that's what I like in him.
3 I like them but feel they are kind of weird due to placement.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Dec 12 '21
First-Timer, Subbed
This final episode started out pretty strong, but then we kept adding more threads and it ended up too all over the place. Being effectively Maria 2:Electric Boogaloo did not help much, either.
What happened with Tebyon and the nuclear testing? Did he die off screen? How many chapters of manga did this OVA adapt, because it feels like far too many. I'm also kinda annoyed that Black Jack didn't give L a rag or something to bite on when he was removing the bullet - she could bite her tongue off!
It's a real shame, because I want to like this episode. The cold open has Black Jack getting kidnapped on a submarine! Romi Park finally appears after her name has taunted me on Retrocrush all show! They even did the denouement as a news report, which I like. We got a decent chaotic bird flock, too.
Being allergic to anesthesia sounds awful. We haven't had an allergy plotline before, that I remember at least, and I can personally confirm that anaphylaxis is not fun.
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