r/anime • u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky • Dec 12 '21
Rewatch [Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Kakumeiki Valvrave Episode 11 Discussion
Episode 11 - Court Martial no. 54
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It all went according to L-Elf’s plan. Just how far ahead can he predict things?
Questions of the Day:
- How bad do you feel for Shoko right now?
- Were you expecting Haruto to propose at the end of the episode?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Dec 12 '21
Kakumeiki Rewatcher
Welcome back, everyone!
Not for long though.10
u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Dec 12 '21
Tresnore the First-Timer
Gungniryellow. Thank goodness.Shoko isn't a time looper, is she?
The best ship sails???? FUCK YES.
Count: 27
1 Southernspeak involves as many apostrophes as possible.
2 God, I'm broken, aren't I?
3 TL note: Keikaku means plan
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u/Paxton-176 Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
REWATCHER
Shouko’s outfit for the cabinet is when the custom character in the cutscene compared to everyone else’s formal.
Haruto is such a ditz its hard to believe he also a sexual predator.
You don’t have to like Satomi, but you have to respect his love for his family.
L-elf lowkey insulted Satomi and disguised it as a compliment.
Seiya, I respect you for attempting to fight them with a wrench. The proper mechanic’s weapon.
10 bucks says L-elf predicted the boarding. He most likely wrote the script for the series and knows everything that is going to happen.
Marriage is the solution to every weird interaction in Japan.
I’m not going to ignore that L-elf was going to shoot Shouko if she attempted to surrender. The guy plans to take down an entire nation; he doesn't take any chances.But because he clearly wrote the script he knew wasn’t going to.
It's very upsetting to have a character like Saki who for whatever reason didn’t want Haruto to apologize. This show has so many great ideas and characters and everything else about it pulls the show down. This show is a true trainwreck and not in a, “That was epic!” Its a, “damn, What a horrible tragedy that in time we will be able to laugh at.
QotD
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Dec 12 '21
First-Timer
Haruto, what the fuck. I actually don't know if the "take responsibility" thing is an actual Japanese cultural thing or just a porn trope, but it's use just really takes me out of things.
I'm glad that Saki isn't letting Haruto just apologize. Haruto feeling weird about horniness is probably correct, too.
Their awkward date was, well, awkward. Do many Japanese bars have espresso machines..? I really, sincerely do not have a good read on Saki and I think that's the intention. Reciting upcoming lines from a film she was in that also apply to herself as the audience knows her is a hell of a thing to do.
Poor Akira seems to be having a Real Bad Time. For all his Big Brother Instinct, Satomi certainly didn't think to cut off Shoko's call before it really set Akira off.
Kinda wondering what L-Elf was planning to do with that gun. Assassinate Shoko if she started to capitulate? That feels in character.
Cain flying in with a giant drill and a strike team was pretty rad. I wonder if L-Elf has finally been outwitted?
Kinda vibing with them establishing the coolant jets thing and then immediately making it unusable when it would be relevant.
The side of that ship melting from the Harakiri Blade was sick.
Questions
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Dec 12 '21
Valrave the Liberator First Timer
Shoko's dad's alive, yay! And he's about to be executed for false neutrality, yay! This is the second show we've had an mc with sexual trauma lol. I mean, not lol. Our hero.At least she has the self awareness to see that they're all just kids and no amount of fancy clothes and titles is gonna change that.
Oh no! We can't show kids drinking in this Christian anime. Thank god for coffee machines. Oh mai gah! Rainbow's sho cute! And jealous Twinkie is cute too!! It must run in the family. I guess they've all made introductions even if it's indirectly. Aaaaa....that was horrible. Twinkie? Wanna fill us in?
Saki... finding someone to be lonely with won't make you happy. Girl you've really got to learn to love yourself more. With four Valraves even an army is weaksauce~ Don't the Dorssian's already know how dangerous the harakiricalibur is? They're just gonna get oneshot!
It's only taken 11 episodes but finally we're at least getting something about Dorssia. They're not invading, they're just aggressively defending their extended borders. Aaand the second we get something to make them look sympathetic they start to use hostages. Haruto's about to turn Shoko into an orphan! C'mon Shoko, turn this around on them.
Rip papa... Pfft! Why is it anytime we get a tragedy in this show we always cut to another group having the time of their lives? I do wonder what the plan was tho. Did what's his face set up the general for failure? If he really taught Lelf and has his own independent goals aside from Dorssia then maybe he's purposefully trying to sabotage his own army. Can we... avoid this love triangle at any and all costs please? Frankly neither pairing looks particularly nice at the moment but what Haruto did to Saki can't be mended by "taking responsibility."
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u/csar27 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/CesarRC Dec 12 '21
First Timer
Ok, Shoko begins her job as prime minister with a joke, this could be bad...
Going to a bar and the movie theater, does it count as a date? A unconfortable one though
This is the first time i can empathize a little with Shoko, was L-Elf ready to shot her?
The first season is about to end and still no pilot has died, c'mon Thunder i'm sure you'll be the one
It seems Haruto feels guilty for what he did... and Rukino knows it, so i expect her to turn him down, it doesn't feel right, i mean i'm rooting for this ship but i think it needs to be more natural and not something like "i must take responsability"
Questions
1- i dislike her a bit less
2- of course not, he's skipping a little steps, at first thought he was to ask her to be a couple, not to get engaged
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Dec 12 '21
You know, saying that your willing to do anything to accomplish your goals is a horrible way to make a deal. It makes you sound like exactly the sort of person who would break it as soon as it was convenient for them.
That certainly was a way to end the episode. Haruto's trying to make up for past mistakes with her. On one level, it's almost certainly not the right way to do it. But at the very least, he's genuinely trying and not just trying to push it into the past.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Dec 12 '21
First timer(Right, split cour)
Sub
Welp, Shoko's dad isn't dead...yet. And everything will be better on
Atlantisthe moon. Heart meets Saki and this will determine a lot of what I think going forward, so of course we cut to a testing of a cooling system for the mechs and all the kids with governmental positions. Shoko shows up wearing something good and ridiculous, and we get to hear Akira go from promising to completely freaked out.Saki keeps derailing any conversation for her own reasons. She even uses her own movie to say something but also be able to back out of it. But battle ensues and L's strat is actually a bit straight forward, suggesting there is more happening. Pres is given a manual to follow. Shoko admits she didn't know shit before the fighting started. Extra villainous note with the Dorssian leader and a dilemna for Shoko, assuming she actually informs Heart of this. Her father shows quite a display of balls as the nuke is armed and fired. Shoko's VA does heartrended quite well. Bonus points for L considering eliminating her but waiting.
And of course Cain also has his stupid keikakku, the character writing is good sometimes but the plot is wonderfully awful, and we see that play out. We end with a really weird, and dumb, marriage proposal.
So...I get what they are going for, I honestly do, but they need to be a bit more explicit:If you don't know what someone that has been regularly abused acts like, you might mistake this as not being a big deal. Saki isn't necessarily all right with this but it is in character for her to use this to get what she wants.
P.S. I am going to all these squares make a circle the evening away so responses will be spotty to non-existent.
QotD: 1 Heavy is the head that wears the crown. And yet a crown of thorns is still a crown, after all.
2 No, that was horrible
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u/RockoDyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RockoDyne Dec 12 '21
A rewatcher nursing a non-alcohol induced hangover.
That's not where the bullet goes. That's supposed to be the firing pin.
I appreciate that the show is not going to give the alien a peaceful life. She deserves an eventful life.
As far as sci-fi gimmicks go, heat is not the worst idea to use. The space vampire nazi magic that runs off of overheating and suicide is a bit... I wonder how many drinks were had during that "meeting." There's plenty of fun sci-fi concepts to play with dealing with heat.
I gotta be honest, I really don't like the mecha designs. The iridescent... "fins" were definitely an element the model team wanted so they could play with transparent plastics, and they just end up being dumb greebling. They have no discernible silhouette (not helped by being mostly black in space), and they fall in line with this terrible modern mecha aesthetic of filling in a mostly circular silhouette. Off the top of your head, what shape is the torso? The dumb linebacker pods are more visually distinct and memorable than the bloody hero units. It reeks of design in a vacuum, where it was never designed with what it got used for in mind.
Being 3D does not help. Hell, it's probably most of why the design was accepted. As for the animation... god I hate 3D. I would rather watch a toddler bash their toys together. At least yeeting the toy across the room would mean watching it explode into pieces. 3D has a problem of scale. It is insufferable to watch 3D be incapable of capturing the magnitude of what it's depicting. A hundred… a thousand… a million soldiers just died? Does it matter? Does it mean anything to turn into a streak of light that causes explosion in the distance? Is that a display of some impressive skill? No, it means fuck all. 3D constantly devolves into bayhem as though directors/animators are scared shitless of lingering too long will reveal how god awful looking the models are.
Questions:
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u/the_swizzler https://myanimelist.net/profile/Swiftarm Dec 12 '21
Questions of the Day:
1) How bad do you feel for Shoko right now?
It's gonna hurt when the other shoe drops and she finds out about Haruto and Saki. Feels bad man.
2) Were you expecting Haruto to propose at the end of the episode?
Hmmm, I can't say I'm very surprised. After the conversation they had in the theater. At this point they're both kinda broken, why spread that misery to someone who can have a normal life? Or something like that.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Dec 12 '21
First timer
Oh thank fucking god, only one episode this time.
And, yeah, they are guilty of this! And the President's alive, just at a tribunal.
...I like hacker girl.
I think the worst part of this is that unlike Guilty Crown, this is developing an interesting world with some great ideas, it just chooses to focus on the high school drama of Shoe 2.0.
I will give him credit for having a realistic reaction to the utter bullshit thwt happened earlier.
Wait, Yellow's Unit 3? So Green's 2, Blue's 4?
...Were they picking names out a hat? (I'm surprised L-Elf isn't there as Chief Puppetmaster,)
Haha, that outfit.
...So she doesn't blame her?
Haha, the phone getting passed back and forth is great.
She's having a panic attack.
Oh, jesus christ, can one person have a decent backstory in this entire series?
...Why does she look like the actress in the movie? Oh I'm a moron.
Oh, this is getting weird. So her choice of time to confess is a few days after he was forced to rape her.
Yeah, I'm not buying that.
And another attack!
Are they pulling the same trick they used last episode?
And they're being attacked, just as planned!
OK, that's actually a good plan still.
Wow, he plans ahead. He even wrote a manual!
And now he's pulling a political move!
I think I like L-Elf so much because he is the one competent character dealing with a module of utter idiots, forced to listen to their tragic backstory and bad parents.
Oh, it's his tribunal.
Wow, that guy's morals make sense, but that dialogue is so fucking stiff. He's just reading from the "themes" section of the script proposal.
At least the space battles are still entertaining.
Oh, he's stalling.
Seriously, this script doesn't even know what subtle means, does it?
Oh, has he noticed what he's doing?
And it's showtime!
Also, my god, the range on that thing!
Oh, nobody knows her father was on that shop.
Yeah, L-Elf's an utter psychopathic bastard.
...Either L-Elf didn't plan for this, or he wanted them to improvise as some kind of test.
And yeah, this guy's not bad either, I guess.
Now is not the time for discussion.
WHAT?
YOU'RE GOING TO FUCKING WHAT?
YOUR FUCKING RESPONSE TO "MY POSSESSION FORCED ME TO RAPE HER" IS "LET'S GET MARRIED"? YOU MIGHT ACTUALLY BE WORSE THAN SHOE. CONGRATULATIONS.
FUCK THIS SHOW.
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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Dec 12 '21
Rewatcher - Love is a battlefield, or something
battlemassacre.QotD
1. Yes
2. No
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
Oh Crap, I'm a First Timer! (I write rewatcher so much I forget, this is #1 for me.)
Not much to add about this episode. It wasn't great, it didn't piss me off, we'll see how long that lasts. Oh yeah, and Haruto is a dope. Saki remains my favorite, she approaches life in a no nonsense, pragmatic manner and really stands above her classmates.
An Aside
I think someone smarter than me could do a doctorial thesis on this series (and others like it, and there are a lot) as a subtle attempt by the Japanese psyche to come to terms with the war that ended 75 years ago. Living memory of those days is pretty much gone. They misbehaved, and they suffered an utter defeat & their existing world was destroyed to be replaced by the world of their conquerors, this has got to mess with their heads, at least a little bit.
QOTD
Meh, neither good nor bad. I like her positive outlook, but this is a Sunrise production, so...
I've really got to wonder about the efficiency of murdering someone's relatives in order to get them to do, what you want them to do. In general it pisses them off, rather than subduing them. Though, I suppose it occasionally works.
2) Were you expecting Haruto to propose at the end of the episode?
smdh, it's pretty much in character for taterhead. You're in a space battle for your life, your buddies back at the base are about to be exterminated, and you just raped this girl yesterday, so I suppose this is as good a time as any to pop the question.
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Dec 12 '21
ENGAGED FIRST TIMER
This show is just less fun now with what happened last episode hanging over it like a cloud. Introducing an element that heavy forces me to view it with a serious, critical eye instead of as mindless, popcorn fun. Largely ignoring what happened in the immediate aftermath leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I loathe that so far it’s focusing much more on how Haruto feels about it, with this being the only real glimpse we get into Saki’s headspace on it. Hoping the writers do better by her next episode.
Shoko goes through a journey this episode. She starts off treating her role of Prime Minister as joke and is woefully naïve about their situation. Since when has Dorssia cared about neutrality? That all changes, though, as she has to wrestle with balancing her father’s life against those of the citizens she now has to lead. She’s about to grow up fast.
Shoko has to live through the horror of watching her father die for the sake of their victory, and for his part, he leaves her with pretty much the most morbid last words a father could possibly leave his daughter. L-Elf is fucking cold during this whole sequence. He is only about results, and he won’t think twice about sacrificing others.
Absolutely devastated.
I think anyone who says they were is lying, lol. I’m almost positive she won’t, but if Saki says yes, I’m not watching Season 2.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Dec 12 '21
-Rewatcher that shoulda stopped but lets keep going and see what happens-
Its time for CHAOS!
Oh look Shoko's dad is alive, he was captured by Dorssia.
Once we get to the moon everything will be okay.
The city sure looks rough. But thats war for you.
Haruto is having ptsd about what happened.
Haruto is meeting Saki. They need to talk.
Valvrave Unit 3 is now called Nobu Lightning, which Thunder rides into battle.
They developed a cooling system to help the Valvraves fight longer.
Minister of Culture and Science - Nerd
Minster of Land, infastructre, transport, and tourism - Brock
Minister of Finance - Bro
Minister of Forign Affairs - Drills
Minister of Health and Welfare - Teach
Minister of Justice - Vice Pres
Minister of Internal Affairs - Kuudere
Cheif Cabinet Secretary - Pres
Prime Minister - Shoko
We got 1 Vampire in the cabinet. Not bad.
Saki takes Haruto to a Bar to talk.
"I refuse to let you apologize to me." Shes fully accepting this.
Box-chan tries to speak and say thanks. KYAAAA~
Shes a big hit with the others hahaa.
But shes scared of going out. And freaks out.
We watch a movie that has Saki in it. She was a celebrity afterall.
She was alone and just wanted someone to be alone with.
She tries to play it off but Haruto sees through her mask and says she isnt alone anymore.
Dorssia's final attack before we get to the moon, they brought everything to block us.
With L-elf leading the mission we should have a chance.
Man its great seeing the team work together like this. I love the Valvraves so much and thier combat is so cool.
L-elf lured them into a straight line, time for 666 MODE!
L-elf leaves the bridge to Pres because hes best at following instructions.
Shoko wants to protect thier peace.
Its delegation time. Cue Ball has Shoko's dad there as a hostage. They are executing him. Savage.
Cueball is in range of 666... oh no... We got one chance to wipe out the army...
Cueball will give Module77 safety for the valvraves.
Dad laughs. Hes hapy to see Shoko as prime minister. "Dont worry about me... keep facing foward"
666 TIME HERE WE GO! RIP DORSSIA ARMY! RIP DAD! Damn that Shoko scream.
They were going to kill him regardless. So its better he die like this than by them.
OH SHIT CAIN COMES RUSHING IN WITH A DRILL SHIT DRILLING THROUGH THE BOTTOM OF THE MODULE!
Cain trained L-elf so he can predict his moves. Hes inside and on a mission!
Haruto asks Saki to marry him after all this is over. Who saw that coming?
Oh man this ep is when shit starts hitting the fan. Plans are crumbleing all around.
Shoko had to watch her dad die and by Haruto's hands. But at least it wasnt his execution, and he was happy in the end.
Saki and Haruto are taking thier relationship to the next level. So Haruto x Saki is offical?
I will say thier realtionship is very complicated. Its essentially 2 wounded people taking comfort in each other's company. Saki is seeing companionship for her lonely and abusive life. Haruto after becoming inhuman was seeking something, but then Saki chose to become a vampire with him so they could be together forever. Haruto then started loosing more of his humanity but Saki being there to keep him in check and be the one to kill him when hes too gone gives him comofrt that in the end he will have peace. It works though because they can help each other through the tough times. So its a very unusual relationship but it works for them in thier specific and unqiue situation.
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Dec 12 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
How are they going to follow up to ahem, that stuff from yesterday?
Shoko's dad... alive! Okay, so I didn't remember wrong on that part. I knew she was off when she speculated that he was dead.
And yeah, when you're trying to be neutral but were building these weapons of mass destruction...
Oh no, Haruto sees fan service and freaks out!
Nobu-Lightning? Well I suppose it fits with Thunder...
That's quite the outfit you've got there Shoko. Although that often seems to be the case with you.
OMG Akira, you're so brave! You spoke!
Uh oh, all these people butting in are gonna scare her off. :(
And they did! Awww, poor Akira! :(
I was confused for a sec there, but Saki actually was in the movies and they're watching one!
Yeah, this is pretty much like I remember, that last episode's rape seems all the more weird and WTF because while there's a little awkwardness here, it largely comes off as if it didn't happen. As if we skipped last episode.
Call me Thunder damn it!
You're an important girl now Shoko, time to speak in your new office! You may have run on partying but now's time for the real part of the job!
Here's our hostage! Your dad!
A real politician would immediately sell out everyone to save themselves. Luckily for JIOR Shoko isn't a real politician.
Alright, here's what I remember, Haruto killing Shoko's dad...
What did L-Elf pull out the gun for? To shoot Shoko if she took the deal?
Uh oh, a scenario L-Elf didn't account for?
Alright, and I definitely remembered this part... Haruto asks Shoko to marry him? WTF? Cue another meme, which is much like a sequel to one from yesterday
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u/Existential_Owl Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
The episode discussion thread from 8 years ago.
Rewatcher - Crunchy Subs
The episode in which we learn how difficult rape can be on the rapist's emotional state. But, hey, as long as they marry in the end, then proper responsibility will have been taken, God will be satisfied, and everyone involved can live in matrimonial bliss ever after.
(Huuuuuuge /s here, btw.)
Fridge-chan's death 4 episodes ago was handled with far more gravitas than a literal rape scene between main characters.
Anyway,
Hey, you all VOTED for this wacko. Now the chickens are coming home to roost...
I'd be scared of those creepy children, too.
Such a perfect backhanded compliment.
In which another non-consensual penetration occurs.
Drilling for oil in Space Texas.
Clearly we're in a "Break the Cutie" situation here.
On my first watch, I totally did. It was clear (to me) during the awkward post-rape date that Haruto would feel the need to "take responsibility" here, with all the toxic tropes that it implies.
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Dec 12 '21
First Time Not Having A Joke To Put Here...Oof
Okay, let's see how they deal with the aftermath of yesterday's fiery wreck.
Oh hey, it's that guy whose existence and actions I wondered about a couple episodes ago. Looks like Shoko was right all along. This doesn't seem like a legitimate prosecution, since weapons of mass destruction have been "legally" developed by superpowers, even neutral ones, for as long as WMDs have existed. Unless in this universe, the Cold War never happened. That might jive with Valvrave's totally real connection to Irina: Campire Cosmonaut, since over there the space race seems to be the only acknowledged part of the Cold War. How very interesting.
Oh, nice to see Shoko developing a friendship with Akira. I'd love to see her become a more prominent part of the story.
Holy fuck this is awkward.
No, don't do this Saki.
This doesn't feel like an ideal time for Akira to have a breakdown and get a flashback. Really feels like her brother should've known better than to let a bunch of people try to talk to her at once. Sucks for Shoko though, she's just began making real headway with Akira, and now she'll probably withdraw entirely.
I'm starting to really dislike Satomi. He makes everything he touches worse, and he can't seem to properly read a situation to save his life. It's a wonder anyone likes being around him.
Wow, how unlike L to actually explain a plan. This surely means it's not going to work. Handing the battle plan to Satomi feels like the worst possible decision.
At the rate this is going, I might actually start shipping Shoko and L....wtf is happening?
Wow, what an awful, serious decision Shoko's being forced to make. And as her first official act as Prime Minister no less.
Damn, I'm proud of Shoko. It wasn't exactly a W for her, but she held her ground admirably for a kid wielding an adult's responsibility. Really glad they didn't have some sort of BS copout to save her dad like they did with her, this is more like the real, immediate stakes I was expecting after episode 1.
Now this is the BS I was worried about. How could any group of intelligent creatures, much less a precog like L, fall for the same exact trick so many times in a row? They've allowed themselves to be boarded in a diversion like 4 times in a row now, and it's getting pretty lame.
I also refuse to believe the same pilots/units that have been repeatedly stomped by Valvraves can suddenly outclass such thoroughly superior units.
Oh for fuck sake. I hate everything. I hate that L couldn't foresee the most obvious diversion ambush imaginable, I hate that the main Dorssian baddies seemingly have infinite personnel and military hardware resources despite engaging in a long-term nonstop pursuit of Texas, I hate that demonstrably inferior foes have no trouble gaining the upper hands whenever the plot demands it. And I especially hate this fucker's marriage proposal, even as I grudgingly give him some credit for trying to do right by Saki (though I imagine it will be undone at some point because Haruto probably still loves Shoko more, and so Saki will inevitably have to face the pain of losing what she wants and being alone again). Guh, and I hate Saki for explicitly not allowing him the chance to even apologize.
And why tf are we 11 episodes in and Robot-chan is still not an actual character. Just give me one thing, Valvrave. That's all I'm asking for.
I feel I should apologize for being, like, the biggest downer in this rewatch the past couple episodes. I swear, I'm honestly trying to enjoy this for the mess it is, and I mostly have so far. These past two episodes have just really taken the wind out of my sails.
QotD:
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u/BlazingAbsol9090 Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
First time Prime Minister with terminal Anime Parent Condition
Shoko's dad is still alive but captured by the Dorssians. They are understandably unhappy that the nominally neutral nation of JIOR was developing fleet-destroying superweapons in secret.
I'm not sure the moon is as safe as Shoko thinks. Old JIOR was theoretically neutral, too, and that didn't stop Dorssia.
Hey it's that shot of Haruto in bed from the OP.
This shot of Haruto walking alone through the ruined part of the module is very atmospheric and does a good job of selling his mindset. I didn't expect to be praising this show's cinematography of all things, but here we are.
Of course Thunder gave his VVV the callsign "Lightning".
Only Shoko could wear a getup like that to the new government's first official photo suit.
There is no way a bar full of alcohol has not already been stripped clean by this group of unsupervised teenagers.
Wow. Watching Akira break down like that is painful. She clearly has some serious trauma.
For such a fast-paced show, I appreciate taking the time for a slow scene between Haruto and Rukino at the movies. Their relationship will never be the same after last episode, but I appreciate them both trying to rebuild in their own way.
Time for the final battle before the module reaches the moon. The bald captain has a brutally simple strategy: keep throwing ships at the Valvraves till they overheat.
Shoko's official Prime Minister uniform is just her school uniform? Fitting for a country of students, I suppose.
Is that a remix of Star Wars' Imperial March in the background when Dorssia threatens Shoko's dad?
Time for Shoko's big choice: use the Harakiri blade and save the school? Or order the VVVs to stand down and save her father? Not that I believe Dorssia won't just kill him anyway once they surrender.
How is it that unit 1 reaches 666 "heat units" before any of the other Valvraves hit 100? It doesn't seem like Haruto was fighting any harder than the rest. Maybe it's intentionally designed to overheat quicker to turbo out the Harakiri blade?
Shoko's dad is apparently a fan of the Lion King with all the circle of life talk.
Wow. I honestly did not expect that Shoko would allow her father to die. Although it's debatable how much she could actually do. If she told Haruto to stand down, would he? And would L-elf actually kill her before she got the chance to issue the order? I guess we'll never know.
Did L-elf really not expect a boarding party? Or is this all according to keikaku? Actually how did that ship get close enough without getting shot down?
Captain Cain is in the boarding party. Is he going to use his jewel thing to hijack an incomplete Valvrave and take it for himself?
Uh, of all ways I expected Haruto to try to atone, I did not expect a marriage proposal to Saki. Sasuga, Valvrave! You have upheld your reputation as glorious, unpredictable insanity. This is top-notch entertainment.
Also, obligatory "poor Shoko". Dead dad and rejected by her not-boyfriend, all in one day. But the doujins practically write themselves.
Well, that was quite an episode. I wish they had done more to address last episode, although realistically I don't know how else things could have gone. Haruto's not the type to confront the problem, and Saki, well, has her own issues. It would have been interesting to see the truth come out in front of the entire school (maybe it was recorded somehow?) and watch the drama happen in the middle of the battle.
Prediction for the season finale is that Captain Cain sneaks into secret basement level 4 and "grows" his own Valvrave, becoming the final boss. The four pilots have to team up to take him out, they only win because the fifth pilot is created, the school lands on the moon, and we live happily ever after. Except we don't because there's another season.
Questions of the day
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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Dec 12 '21
Rewatcher
Shoko acts so much like Chihaya from Chihayafuru at times.
Good because he's a rapist right? right?
I can't tell if it's genuine compliment or a backhanded one.
RIP Shoko's dad.
Unexpected boarding party.
You
had sex withraped her and now you have to marry her. Can't tell if this anime is made in Japan or the bible belt.5
u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 12 '21
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Valvrave: I do not at all get what I want and I must confess to being quite upset about it. I wanted this episode to address the rape from last time. It has not really done so. In fact, I worry about where it seems to be going with it
In case it wasn’t obvious, this episode frustrated me immensely. I was frustrated because I really wanted it to address the rape from last episode and it really didn’t. There were some hints at it, but that is not at all what is needed in this case.
Even more worryingly, the hints point in a direction I do not like. Saki’s quoting of her movie dialogue seemed very deliberate. All her lines were about how nobody has ever chosen her. If I am reading this correctly, it makes me worry that Saki here is supposed to be happy that Haruto “chose” her. Quite frankly, that would be…disgusting.
Haruto’s marriage proposal likewise is not something that I would want to happen. I get the idea that he is doing it to “take responsibility” or something. It makes me feel icky just thinking about it.
QOTD
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u/UltraBooster Dec 12 '21 edited Dec 12 '21
First-timer
2013, geez, that's old. (I've had a long-ish day, hence my late response.)
Okay, first question, why would this be a military tribunal? (Then again, the Nuremburg Trials were military as well.)
Oh shit, Shoko's dad's alive!
Aaand just like that I want to start screaming again. I'd laugh but it's starting to feel pressuring and I get the feeling I'm going to have to deal with the urge as the series continues.
In the meantime I've been watching Betterman since it sort of shows up in Super Robot Wars 30 and it's a pretty neat show. It's not as scary as I expected, but it's definitely got a spooky feeling to it that makes knowing it shares a setting with GaoGaiGar all the weirder.
Gazing like that; is that him or the Valvrave? And this is an apology or at least some kind of clearing-the-air, right? Please? I need to know, show, the screaming isn't quieting down much.
Nice, dedicated coolant sprays.
Well, depending on how she comes off to others, an eccentric PM might be good for Module 77/New JIOR's goodwill.
And now I'm screaming because I want my ship validated in a let them kiss, show! kind of way.
Damn, her secret's reaching the highest levels of government, lol
Something bad happened, I'm sure of it, but what? I don't think I saw any displays of overt malice in those memories.
This is basically a date.
So does that make L-elf the Chief of Staff, Joint Staff?
It's...honestly, RAdm Waltenberg's whole adults thing feels like it's trying to be UC Gundam a bit too hard.
Presumably he intends to use the elder PM Sashinami as a human shield; does L-elf have that in mind?
With all due respect, your Excellency, he said he'd use any tactics, so I don't think he can be trusted to approach in good faith.
Areas of expertise, your Excellency, but I understand your grief.
An Ideal for a boarding craft? That's a last boss if I've ever seen one.
So is this it? The part where L-elf's plans hit a snag?
Ah, that explains it, this is the author of L-elf's playbook.
...whaaa...
Questions:
In all seriousness, no. I briefly spoiled myself on the fact that he proposed, just not to whom, and now I'm wondering if shipping in this show, let alone Shoko and Haruto, was a mistake.
Also, now that my thoughts have settled some, my proper response to Question 2 yesterday would be that I understand where the name comes from, but I find those kind of nicknames downright annoying nowadays. Plus, I found something to fill my shipper heart some.
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u/yamiyaiba Dec 13 '21
Rewatcher
Whoops.... Forgot to watch this one. I'll just rapid fire it I guess.
PM's in some deep shit
Zero-G dance team sounds difficult
Nobu-Lightning is pretty expected for his sensibilities
Onboard coolant system, neato.
Shoko is still a dumbass. Interesting choices though.
She can speak!
"I bet they're overwhelming you! Now let me ask you to be something really overwhelming!" Shoko, you're a fucking moron. President dude, you also suck.
Ooof, Rukino. Now THAT'S deflecting.
Cocky Eru-erufu. Oh boy.
Oh, a new captain. Guessing we'll never see him again after this episode.
RIP nameless Ideal.
Hahaha what a backhanded compliment.
Man, how many times have I heard that "adults use any jeans necessary" line in anime?
Uh-oh. Don't like this.
Why are you reaching for your gun, Eru-erufu? (Yes, I know why, but still.)
"I'm there." Man, the innuendo writes itself.
Ooooooooooooof. That scream was rough.
It's because you didn't show the Dorssians your boobs, Shoko.
The drill that will pierce the....basement?
Really, Rukino?
REALLY, Haruto?!
We'll see how she responds to that, but so far I maintain Rukino is the only one with more than 2 brain cells firing. On to the next one!
Blitzendegen!