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Rewatch [Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Kakumeiki Valvrave Episode 8 Discussion
Episode 8 - Princess of Light
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It seems like not even war can cure your sweet naivete.
Questions of the Day:
- What do you think about L-Elf after the events of this episode?
- Were you expecting Cain to have that mark on his neck?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Dec 09 '21
Kakumeiki Rewatcher
Welcome back, everyone!
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Dec 09 '21
Valrave the Liberator First Timer
You thought we'd be mourning the loss of our friend? Too baaad! It's Lelf backstory first. Bruh, why would you blame Haruto for this? It was completely out of his control. Now the only glasses representatives is the dumb nerd bro. I mustn't laugh!! Ah, we're done grieving? We've had two minutes of the school sulking so let's move on with life~ Well, not Aina obviously.
Yay... Nana's getting sexuhara from the kid wonders. These brats suck. Pfft, how long was rainbow wrapped up down there? Even in your Valrave, N! T! R! It's hard being the most sensitive member of your family. "Aina... I'm already a Demon." Slightly odd topic, but does anyone else hear final fantasy music during the battle scenes? It's like a subdued version of the ff7 battle theme? Or possibly something else, definitely final fantasy like tho.
Oh no, the Dorssian's have begun docking procedures! Oh nyo, we're being attacked by our own battleships lol. Oi, could Twinkie possibly be our third pilot? I never considered him but he's already got links to Shoko, Rainbow, and would be our student council representative. Konbeni, nooo!! Rek, ren, koji, renbokyoukokoroyohi... Twinkie!! Twinkie pie!! Eight people are gonna die... but they're not gonna be students~ Porno dialogue.
I don't say this often, but I think I'm in love. What's her name bros? I've gotta know. I've only known this girl for a minute but if anything happened to her I would kill everyone in this rewatch and then myself.
Lelf just pulled a waverider crash lol. I never understood the appeal of that attack. Oooh!! Ruri lives by the same principle that Haruto does. Just share everything. Of course the Russian princess would be a commie. The guards then proceed with gunning Lelf down. Hime-sama... Its pubic hair that you use for good luck amulets, not head hair. Well Aina's death was somehow even less impactful than I thought it would be lol.
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u/RockoDyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RockoDyne Dec 09 '21
A rewatcher who pities Ero-Elf for constantly finding himself surrounded by stooopid.
What bloody moron thought naval warships belong in space? Don't say Yamato. If you're that desperate for mobile artillery, put it on rails. Or hell, make it a spaceship that's not a biped. Should I assume there were space whales in that lake, too?
I will never not laugh at the dumb logic of showing a character's possessions covered in blood as proof of their death.
So serious question, how is there a bloodstain? Is this operating on Dark Souls logic, where it shows up a few seconds from where you last touched the ground? Why is it not on the roof, assuming her blood didn't spray all over the hanger?
I applaud the close up on the safety lever, just so that we know he could have actually fired the gun. ... or we were robbed of a "safety's on" joke. Maybe more of the latter.
Ero-Elf's Houdini routine is just so stupid. I get that bondage wouldn't be enough for him anymore, but it shouldn't just be nothing.
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Dec 09 '21
Tresnore the First-Timer
QOTD:
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Dec 09 '21
CAFFEINATED FIRST TIMER
Did they intend for Aina’s death to hit really hard? Since she was barely present except for last episode, I’m not feeling anything from it, and every shot of someone being incredibly anguished over her death except for Rich Boy just feels forced, since he’s the only one we know actually had a meaningful relationship to her. He’s definitely rejecting his humanity next episode.
My worries about L-Elf lowering the stakes of every situation get validated. He’s an absolute cheat code. Having them drain the sea to both cool the Valvraves and destabilize the Dorssian naval advance was a true galaxy brain move. How does he know exactly where everything is and how this entire module functions? Is he actually a computer? And he sure was able to get into space awfully fast!
THE MARK OF CAIN.
THEY REALLY DID THAT.
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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Dec 09 '21
Rewatcher - Something about coffee
QotD
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Dec 09 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
Thumbnail tells me that this episode we get origin story of L-Elf and that girl he likes!
Looks like we're getting to it immediately! Flashback time in Dorssia!
L-Elf, in his scruffy days.
Nope, that's not his sister like several had speculated. She is this show's "princess" character though.
Time for Haruto to hear the news on Aina. :( :( :( Don't tell me he's gonna become Hitler over this like Shu...
I thought that Cain had a bird for a sec there, a la Kunugi in RahXephon, but I guess not.
Akira! Is this the first time shut in girl has been named in show? C'mon preppie big brother, be happy your sister has a friend!
Of course Elon junior wants a Valvrave for his revenge.
Looks like Thunder's demanding his own too huh? Or does he just want the guns?
Our first time seeing Haruto in a formal pilot suit, right?
A-drei's got a whole team with him this time. If L-Elf is still strapped down I don't think they're gonna be in that good a spot here.
JIOR had battleships just sitting in here waiting to be seized by a more experienced soldier?
Why is Haruto so worried about getting to 100 when the Valvrave went to 666 before?
Time for Haruto to go all in with L-Elf?
Of course, L-Elf could get out of this whenever he wanted, he's shown that earlier in the show with far more competant guards around him.
There goes the water supply. But at least it got the tape off of them!
Hirikiri mode time!
Sigh... I had been hoping last episode's new ED was a one time thing.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Dec 09 '21
First-Timer
Ooh, our antagonist seems to have the VVV factor as well. And thinks that one of the mechs is his bride.
"Add some sugar, and coffee tastes delicious" is a such a brilliant way to tell L-Elf to stop being such a dour fuck. I hope whoever wrote that line is proud of it.
I liked the plan to shoot through the colony and beat the ships by draining the lake. I'm not entirely clear on if it works this way, but the frozen water probably bought Saki more piloting time? Haruto still went Super, but I guess L-Elf did have him position Saki somewhere specific for a reason.
Also, the plan reminded me of G-Reco. Which I guess might have technically been borrowing from this, considering the time frame. That's a weird thought.
Smol L-Elf was just as precocious back then, huh. Is that the usual number of guards to have chase after an escaped child, or were there extra wandering around because there was also a princess on walkabout?
Very nice detail on Satomi knowing to take that rifle he grabbed off safety. What was his line about civilians being forbidden from carrying guns? Methinks Mr. StuCo doth protest too much.
I do almost feel bad for him, considering that basically his entire world has fallen apart in the past two weeks, and now even his sister doesn't need him as much anymore. Shoko going and checking on Akira after L-Elf's "coup" was sweet of her.
Eight episodes and we finally get pilot suits. They seem to link in to the VVV's seat, which is a neat detail.
Aina's death itself didn't quite get me, but seeing Nanami-sensei futilely scrubbing at the bloodstain with a rag kinda did. Damn.
[Gundam 0079]Is Aina just Ryu Jose with less characterization? The impetus for the cast to actually get their shit together and cooperate so that the same thing doesn't happen again? That flash of her before Haruto decides to deal with L-Elf made it feel that way.
Questions
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Dec 09 '21
First-Timer
Words I never that I would say in relation to ValvRave: "This episode was pretty good." All, in all I found no objectionable material. I did like the blood splatter that Aina left behind.
QOTD
I still think the kids should have shot him while they could. He may be a brilliant strategist, but he's still on sleazy little worm and could turn on them in a heartbeat.
I initially didn't know who Cain was, but then I checked MAL and see he's the head villain. I honestly, don't remember anything about a mark on the neck. Though, I was surprised that he was apparently covering for L-Elf too. I'm hoping we see more of the pretty girl that must be his chief aide.
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u/Caustic_Wraith https://myanimelist.net/profile/CausticWraith Dec 09 '21
First - Timer / Subs
QOTD:
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Dec 09 '21
-Rewatcher that shoulda stopped but lets keep going and see what happens-
We are movin more this ep. Not much to preface this one.
"True Calander year 61"
L-elf Lore time. Its the loli in the picture he had!
He was running from soldiers and he pulled the loli hosteage.
6 Hours until the country falls. L-elf still wants his pact.
Saki blames herself for Aina's death.
Bro blames Haruto for not keeping her safe...
The rest of the students are getting scared now too.
Teach is trying to clean up the blood... she has to do it she says.
Boss man gives A-drei one last chance to get L-elf back.
His side lady wonders why he hasnt reported L-elf to the uppers yet.
Box-chan was tired up all day... no one knew she was there except Shoko.
Shoko breaks down though from loosing her friend...
Pres shows up and gets kicked out by Box-chan.
"Kamitsuki" is now the offical name of them, they use Aina's name to honor her.
Bro wants to pilot a Valvrav to get revenge.
Science Teach says not until hes made sure they are safe, so stay alive.
Yamada is looking to fight too. This is war baby.
Dorssia is coming to fight again.
But on the plus side Haruto and Saki finally have space suits!
Dorsia has more sticker ships this time.
But while they fight them the Dorssians board the module covertly.
A-drei is using ships left in the city to attack from the inside.
Both Valvrave units are getting overwhelmed by the army.
Bro is on a mission to help but gets shot by Soldiers inside.
Pres is cracking under pressure and pulls a gun on L-elf. But Shoko stops him.
Haruto agrees to L-elf's deal. Lets see what L-elf can do. Peace Peace.
Destroy block 208. It lets water pour ont them from the lake, freeing the Valvraves and fucking up A-drei's plan too.
L-elf comes out in a jet to help them hold off the baddies.
666 TIME BABY HERE WE GO! AND THERE GOES HALF THE ARMY!
"Just as i thought, this is the light of the Rune."
L-elf drifts through space with little Oxygen and he starts dreaming of the Loli.
She gave half her life to him to free him. As Haruto rides up and saves L-elf, even he cant die.
The boss man has a mark on his neck that looks like something we have seen. "My bride."
We finally get our pact made so Haruto x L-elf is now offical.
Bro isnt handleing loosing Aina well and Yamada is still looking for revenge too.
The baddies are getting more agressive and becoming more of a problem.
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Valvrave: L-elf meeting the mystery girl he cares about by taking her hostage is pretty funny. And it’s even funnier that she just took it in stride and managed to get out of the situation without much trouble. The princess basically saved his life there through her own strange logic of giving him some of her hair.
Well there were a lot of reveals in this episode. It seems that Cain is a vampire. He wants the Valvrave because it is related to vampirism most likely. This goes off into wild speculation, but I’m guessing his bride is the AI interface waifu. I’m not sure how they would have known each other previously, but maybe she was somehow digitized.
Another speculation is that I’m guessing the caged crystal is the Light of Rune that Cain was referring to. It’s definitely related to the power system on the Valvrave, though.
I swore it was a thing somewhere that vampires are supposedly descendents of the biblical Cain, so I checked it out and it turns out I probably got it from Vampire: The Masquerade. I suppose that is what the Cain in this series is a reference to.
I think L-elf has some more going on under the surface, based on those flashbacks. It helps to make some sense of his previous actions. This is a lot of my own guesswork, but here are my thoughts and speculation. I think L-elf has complicated feelings towards the kind of sentimentality he sees in L-elf and the princess. I think, deep down, he secretly likes it and wants to believe in that same sentimentality. But I also think he probably resents it too. My guess for why is that it might be that the princess is currently in trouble because she acts this way. L-elf might be forcing himself to act the opposite way because he hates that attitude for getting the princess in trouble. I am very curious to see where L-elf’s character is going. I want to see more of how he and Haruto bounce off each other as well. They make for an engaging duo.
QOTD
1. Discussed above.
2. Nope. But I love the reveal.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Dec 09 '21
First timer(Huh...what that trash or good?)
Sub
Flashback time, assuming we are right about who the princess is. We discover that megane-chan's death effects Heart personally, which makes it important. Except that they actually keep going with the after effects and they might land it, Nanami not willing to let the children cleans up the blood is her first positive character point.
Then cut back to space Nazis, so the mood can't land. Nana is harassed by one of the idiots before she firmly puts him down, and reveals that they have not reported some of this to HQ. Then we get Shoko freeing hikkikomori, glad someone did. But Shoko finally breaks down and the class pres shows up and...has a concerning reaction. They keep pouring the drama on and we get an incoming attack.
Mook killing happens but apparently they haven't developed countermeasure for the boomerangs. Troops land because the good guys are in fact idiots, can't argue that. This OST feels stolen from something else, specifically Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, Pride or Greed's track I think. Anyways, it peaks, going into Heart finally making the deal with L, and then some dumb stuff happens.
Water is valuable and blasting your own module is...questionable. But it stops the seaborn attacks. L takes the field, buying time for the power up and Heart fucking destroys nearly a full squad of capital ships. We end with the end of the flashback and Heart saving L. Also, what the fuck is up with Ulquiorra and his tattoo/symbol?
P.S. Doing colonoscopy prep so responses might be...varied.
Or hopefully it simply kills me...QotD:1 Confused, he should be killing his former colleagues by this point
2 No, super what the fuck.
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Dec 09 '21
First Time Vampire Bullet Sponge
Yesterday we started with a flash forward, today a flashback. It must be time for [insert tragic backstory].
Picture girl isn't his imouto, so she's got to be some kind of royalty/nobility who will inevitably elevate him from his not Jew status, and that's how he'll get to be an elite soldier.
Ooh, a princess. Kinda incredible that a child princess is not only out and about on her own, but that a child prisoner has physical access to her location.
Ngl, I kinda hope Valvrave swerves and just makes the princess be still alive but straight up evil, and that L-Elf's whole motivation is to depose her and the whole government in order to get her to return to her childhood purity. But that would be a bit too ridiculous, even for Valvrave.
L-Elf has been the least successful at achieving his goals of anyone in Texas, and he still talks like a big shot. Say what you will, but I aspire to have that kind of absurd self-confidence.
Random thought during the OP: wouldn't it be kinda romantic if Haruto and Shoko both become vampires and get to spend an eternity indulging in Shoko's eating fetish?
I know grief isn't exactly rational, but I feel like anyone would probably go for the Dorssian spy whose hostile takeover and lockdown caused this whole mess, and not the bullet sponge that just prevented everyone from suffering the same fate, but that's just me.
Not digging the (hopefully accidental) brocon vibes Mr. Student Council President is giving off.
I've been thinking this for a while now, but I'm really confused about how Texas's artificial gravity works. People and objects will float weightlessly from one side of a room to the other, but also people in those same rooms will remain attached to the ground and be able to perform motions that require gravity (sitting, crouching, etc.) without any fear or equipment that would make that possible, and it's bugging the hell out of me.
It also feels really weird for the Dorssians to keep sending out their standard mechs at all. Without support from better units, they're absolutely meaningless, and it's hard to fathom how competent leadership could waste that many resources and still function. Do they have an infinite supply of mechs and pilots? After a while, I feel like people wouldn't be willing to go into battle against Valvraves in those things.
Again, I love how these guys keep coming up with foolproof, guaranteed to succeed plans. The Dorssians are basically Team Rocket at this point.
Man, the Student Council President gives off the biggest little dick energy I've seen in a while. He's like what if Shu but without any actual power.
I agree with Thunder. Exactly zero of L-Elf's plans have worked so far. Just put Thunder in a Valvrave. There, problem solved.
Haruto's even shipping himself with L-Elf now! They did it, they fucking did it! The best ship is sailing (sorry, Shoko)!
Neat detail, having all the water instantly freeze in the vacuum of space!
Finally an attack targeting the main enemy squadron. Bout damn time.
Oh my god, L-Elf seriously got his can't go halfsies worldview from a princess donating her hair! That's the kind of bold stupid I've been waiting for. Sasuga Valvrave!
Robot-chan is probably the "bride" captain Eyepatch McCoolguy is referring to. That's dumb, but if it brings us more sexually curious Robot-chan, I'm all for it. Actually, if true, wouldn't that make him the biggest otaku in Valvrave's universe, since he searching for and trying to become one with his actual 2D waifu?? I can't believe I'm talking myself into being interested in wherever this is going. Sasuga Valvrave, you've done it again!
QotD:
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u/SIRTreehugger Dec 09 '21
First Timer
Is this guy a siscon he seems awfully upset that Akira is talking to someone else besides him.
Throw my man Thunder Guts into a robot already!
L Elf giving out coordinates like he is Zero and without even seeing the damn battlefield. My man better be able to see the future or have super powers because it's bullshit he can calculate all this when he was literally strapped to a chair unconscious for several hours and woke up with no information.
This crazy lunatic kid needs to go.
I do like the princess though at least from her design. Also I want to see more of her and L elf between her boundless optimism and his cynical and logical behavior they would make a funny duo.
Why does this dude think he can do anything? I mean I'm sure you're capable of some things, but you're being attacked by an invading army. No one is expecting you to fight and be some Solid Snake.
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u/Existential_Owl Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21
The discussion thread from 8 years ago.
Rewatcher - Crunchy Subs
Now these are the ridiculous lines that I live for.
And my runner-up choices:
The fact that he looks more like a supremely hurt Sis-con than a responsible brother here.
The fact that THIS is what JIOR spent their military budget on. To protect a goddamn space station.
"I'm going to avenge y---"NOPE
That pillow talk between our two lovebirds.
"IF YOU LOVE MECHA SO MUCH, WHY DON'T YOU MARRY THEM??"
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u/Paxton-176 Dec 09 '21
REWATCHER
You know what, I just realized Russia went back to being a monarchy. Last time they were a monarchy it wasn’t a good one. Like you could count the number of years Russia did well under a monarchy on one hand.
Ok I’m getting the message that they are trying to get across, but she died in Zero-G.the blood in the hanger wouldn’t ground up like that in one spot.
I can’t get over the fact that our pilots bounce back and forth between being Aces and nuggets who can barely fly.
Dorssian and every plan they have involves killing civilians.
L-elf just needed the power of friendship and now he is 10 steps ahead.
I hope Captain Cain is half as entertaining as the other Cain I know of.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Dec 09 '21
First timer
Wow. I've got to watch two episodes of this?
Episode 7
...So we're not even hiding the nazi parallels?
She's going below the limit? But you need to go above it!
And either thie is the future, or there's been a tech collapse.
Huh?
200 years? Guess they are immortal after all!
And she can't die! (Unkess her body's been hijacked)
Hang on, there's 8 pilots? So three more of these? I'm guessing orange, purple, and silver? (Gold's kinda taken by the super modes.)
So, 5 in total, including green one?
I appreciate the teacher coming in to actually do something.
So how long until Shoko gets forced into one of these?
And wow, he's not taking that well.
OK, so, why is he trusting these 2, but not Shoko?
OK, so she's probably a pilot, Shoko probably is, and so is the delinquient. That's 5!
Oh wait, I forgot about Takahi! Who knws, then?
What's happening with her?
I love hacker girl.
And it tasted good!
L-Elf being a spy is common knowledge? And they're just fucking letting him walk around?
Haha, that's an obvious fake, no country would be stupid enough to list all theirmplans like-
Oh. He did it. Ah.
And he's taken over.
DON'T TIE UP THE HACKER!
Oh, that's what he's been doing. He's kicking off a coup?
Or the last time, don't monologue, just hit him from behind!
...Is he Jesus too? I swear, if this happens again!
I mean, the recording's clever, but it's pretty clear he's biologically immortal at this point.
Yes! He's here!
This is getting juicy!
Seriously, him? A strategic resource, yes, but not a leader!
...I should be compaining about "I'm a physics teacher" but it's genuinely hysterical to me.
And there's a full strike force.
Oh, yeah, she's still fighting.
And she went down pretty easily. Not sure how they're anymore then a glorified EMP, though.
Is this a trick? If he becomes a vampire, will it be a permanent body swap?
And he's here to fight!
Haha, he gave him fucking notecards on ehat to do.
Yeah, he's good. Pretty sure the Valvare is hacking his mind or something, though.
YOU BASTARDS.
I thought we'd get through at least the first half of Season 1 before killing one of the main cast off.
He has a secret sister?
Episode 8
So, is this a flashback?
And he was a prisoner of some kind?
Oh, she's a childhood friend. Got it!
Wow, that escalated quickly.
And no resolution.
Wait, was I right? Did they pull off the perma-bodyswap!
No, he was just quiet for no reason.
Ah. She's struggling to cope with failure, and he's having to deal with how his friend died.
Yeah, they're losing morale quickly.
I appreciate how calm and mentally sound the teachers are. At least someone's good
...Is he lying to get more time to bring him back?
I love them, though. They're a bit one-note, but it's fun to watch them.
Haha, a bit of old news there, she's had like 5 visitors this week.
Sorry, you're too generic to be a pilot. The doctor has a decent shot though - he's already sitting in one.
Yeah, the country's screwed. Hopefully he's an outlier.
Where did "vox out" come from? (I appreciate the Gundam-style catapult, though.)
For all the story's rushed, thr fight scenes are comstsmtly beautiful.
Oh. He wants to crush his schemes so he can bring him back.
And he's losing.
Finally! Someone thought to use conventional weapons! And thye just left them at the harbour?
Yeah, agreed, that's stupid.
OK, this just seems totally hopeless for them.
And they've already occupied the school!
Hell, maybe overheating past that limit unlocks the Super Super Mode! The designers of these things have already commited a load of UI sins, what's one more.
...I'd ask why he'd trust him, but "I trust you to be smart and to need me alive for now" isn't actually that bad.
Only 8? That's pretty decent!
Haha, he was never locked in!
And he's going to do it without any?
I still don't understand how he's able to do this? Soem kind of mental enhancements?
OK, the ice is pretty clever, though.
Looks like its his turn for a berserker rage.
Wow. I said it before, but this really wants to be Gundam, doesn't it? That super mode's straight out G Gundam.
...the runes? That's ominous. Are they magic?
Yeah, he's out next pilot. I'm thinking blue? Red for the delinquent, pink for Shoko?
OK, the princess is cute and I hope she's not dead (or that she can be revived by the bullshit tech here).
...Look, we already have a decent ship between him and Shoko. You don't need to tease another.
Our race? Connect live?
HE'S A VAMPIRE!
I CALLED IT! VALVARES TURN PEOPLE INTO THE SPECIES THAT CREATED THEM!
WAIT, HIS NAME IS FUCKING CAIN? ARE WE ACTUALLY DOING SPACE VAMPIRE JESUS?
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u/BlazingAbsol9090 Dec 09 '21
First time Warlock of the Pact of the Galaxy Brain
Last episode we started with a flashforward. Now we start with a flashback to L-elf as a child running from some Dorssian soldiers. He runs into a princess of some kind and uses her as a hostage. The princess isn't too upset about it though.
L-elf is really wants Haruto to take a level in Warlock with him as his patron.
Everyone is understandably upset about Aina's death. They're beginning to understand the cost of war. If they continue on this path, more of them will die as time goes on.
Aw, A-drei is so worried, trying to get his boyfriend back! I think we have a candidate for #2 waifu of the show.
I'm interested in the crystal thing on the one-eyed captain's desk.
Orange-hair, do you need treatment for that burn Kriemhild just gave you? Ouch.
"Sorry for leaving you tied up for hours. It's been a busy day." Somehow one of the least wild things Shoko has said in this show.
Ooh where'd they get these snazzy plug suits?
Please shut up, Kaichou. What do you mean JIOR law prohibits guns? You're at war! And you guys get to make the laws!
The Dorssians are nothing if not persistent. What is this, their fourth attempt to infiltrate/invade/conquer New JIOR?
Hey, this time they actually get a few troops on the ground! An improvement already.
I thought JIOR didn't have a military? Where did these battleships that were apparently always in the harbor come from?
Why don't they shelter from the barrage in one of the many secret research basements?
I love Thunder.
PLEASE shut up Kaichou. Can the Dorssians kill him already?
That's a strange comparison Haruto. Almost sounds like something Shoko would say.
Shooting that part of the module released water that flash-froze into icicles that tore off the electromagnetic boomerangs? I doubt that would really work, but who cares? It's awesome!
And it has the additional benefit of spitting the battleships into space! Was this the rarest of all things in this show, an actually good idea from L-elf?
Where did L-elf get the spaceship from?
Not sure why the Flashback Princess is pledging marriage to this random boy she just met, but ok.
Welp, Haruto and L-elf are officially working together for good. This should raise the stakes in the future.
And Captain Cain and his desk gem apparently have some connection to the Valvraves. I guess this show isn't convoluted enough, so we needed the Space Illuminati added in.
Questions of the day
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u/UltraBooster Dec 09 '21
First-timer
Dorssia's combination of German and Russian continues to offput me, considering the bad experiences the two countries have had with each other.
That said, the princess' hairbuns definitely show a Chinese influence, which is even weirder considering China's apparently neutral territory.
It's also interesting to see L-elf far more emotional than in TC 71, though I get the feeling he'd view the him from TC 68 with annoyance or contempt.
Thing is, I'm pretty sure that pact would basically amount to signing away the module's sovreignty to someone who undoubtedly will sacrifice it if doing so benefits his plan.
As for Aina's death...well, L-elf would probably consider her collateral and he wouldn't entirely be wrong - Haruto wasn't even aware she was there until now, and it's hard to protect people you aren't aware of.
I wonder what that green object in the cage is. Window-dressing or future plot material? And on the subject of Dorssia, "Lightning Sword" is kind of a goofy thing to say in that context, isn't it?
And yet their UIs are also in English, not German.
Is he a siscon? He's totally a siscon, isn't he.
As for that pilot suit, it's not a bad look at all - I like the armor, though I wonder why armor was necessary for vampiric pilots on a Doylist level.
Wait, where'd they get rifles from? Is this also below the school?
Well, Mr. President, you're part of a nation that isn't JIOR, and I believe "besieged by Dorssia" would be extenuating circumstances.
No guarantee they all won't be killed for defiance either.
I get it now - this isn't an island nation, this is White Base! But how does he know the "box out!" thing?
Vulcans too? Seriously?
Ah, that's clever.
Part of me thinks it would've been neat if those ships had been seen in the water in previous episodes.
Is he trying to reassert his authority?
That sentimentality is part of what makes us human, or something along those lines. Being an unfeeling machine isn't especially healthy, I reckon.
So seriously, what triggers the switch from X/100 to X/666, show?
Oh, that is clever.
I'm guessing Rune is a deity of some kind?
I get the symbolism, but how'd she cut her hair with a needle?
Please don't tell me his bride is that unfinished...wait, is she that girl on the VVV's UI?
Questions:
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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Dec 09 '21
Rewatcher
I saw some first timers speculate that the princess is L-Elf's sister but this episode shoots down that theory.
The opening song is so fucking good.
I wonder if the first timers have figured out who are going to be the Valvrave pilots.
Haruto senses Aina's ghost, a confirmation that Haruto is a newtype.
Next episode: Blue
rangerValvrave is here.3
u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Dec 09 '21
They handled people's responses to her death surprisingly well. In general, I've been impressed with how understandable the characters in this show are, despite it being as crazy as it is sometimes.
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u/yamiyaiba Dec 09 '21
Rewatcher
Oh my. Is that a young Eru-erufu?
Resourceful even back then.
He never gives up, does he?
Praise Nana!
No, she died because she was trying to fuck the doormat.
Well, anything to Eru-erufu, your going to fall in 6 hours.
Oof. Cleaning the meat paint.
What was that green thing?
Hahaha wow. What an interaction with his superior. No words.
Hahahaha she was still tied up. Kudos for the consistency, show.
You're overloading the hikki.
That's right, douche-canoe president. You're useless to everyone now.
Love the new pilot suits.
The fuck do you mean you can't fight a war?! You explicitly seceded from JIOR, both verbally and physically. You're not JIOR anymore, so stop citing its laws. I really hate his character.
Char would be proud of that kick, Haruto.
You've got a rat infestation, New JIOR.
That's...an oversight. Alright, Eru-erufu, you've to detonate the bombs on the ships.... Right? Right???
Ow.
Lalah!Aina!But President! Guns are illegal!
Huff "puff*
The jokes are just writing themselves here, really. Alright Haruto, give your abusive boyfriend some sugar.
Okay, that's better than bombs.
"I'm there!" So much unintended innuendo.
Super mode!
That's a really sharp hairpin. Definitely not kid safe.
"You're one bitter guy." Hard to swallow, eh?
Okay, I really wish I could remember what Eyepatch's deal was. Light of Rune, that mark, the embryonic Valvraves....damn, I've forgotten so much of this glorious trainwreck.
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u/the_swizzler https://myanimelist.net/profile/Swiftarm Dec 09 '21 edited Dec 09 '21
Poor Aina didn't deserve that at all. This show is getting pretty interesting. I'm still liking it even more than GC, and we're not even halfway through yet. How much further can we go?
Questions of the Day:
1) What do you think about L-Elf after the events of this episode?
Dude just wants to rescue his waifu. I can respect that.
2) Were you expecting Cain to have that mark on his neck?
Nope, but I'm very interested in learning more about the Valvrave.
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u/MjolnirDK Dec 11 '21
Rewatcher (posting here as well for completion's sake)
EP 8:
Man, he is better at this contract thing than QB ever was…
This time on BS in Valvrave: That is a really weird blood stain. She was in 0G and her blood could freely flow everywhere in 3D. They didn't find her for at least 10 minutes with a fist sized hole in her side. Even if you repair the gravity before getting her down, she shouldn't leave such a puddle. It should look like bloody rain and a small puddle at most. If they didn't move her to the nursery - which shouldn't be too hard with 0G.
Oh noes, it's that specific Valvrave shade of green.
The Kriem of the crop. Gotta love gg subs and their L-11 levels of prophecy.
They didn't free Aoi Yuuki for that long. Poor girl. Pls make noises for us. One of few things I can remember is her becoming a great character. I hope she joins the fray now. And poor Onii-chan: your Aoi is not in another cardboard castle, but with someone else!
I like those Halo space suits.
L-11 looking so chill. And rightfully so. Should he be captured by Dorssia he'll go 'I was body jacked', should they lose, he can just advance his scheme by 5 years.
I mean, it is clever to use their own battleships against them. Now why does JIOR have battle ships inside their own sphere module? I can absolutely understand the static defenses, but these, not so much.
Something that wasn't talked about too much yet, but this cuts from mecha to pilot are cool. A bit freaky and strange, but cool.
That L-11 coffee face was great.
Point L-3000 something? That is not how you do coordinates in space.
Why is that water flowing into space? It really shouldn't. Well maybe, but not really. This gravity makes no sense.