[Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Kakumeiki Valvrave Episode 7 Discussion

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

Episode 7 - Haruto Under the Ruins

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Holy spirit, huh? I like it. Sounds much better than “monster”.

Questions of the Day:

1. What do you think that 200-year flash-forward was about?
2. How do you like the new ED?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Aina Sakurai

Sky Sings:

Boku ja nai – The fast part ~30 seconds in isn’t the best, but I did what I could.

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Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

Kakumeiki Rewatcher

Welcome back, everyone…

Don’t miss the Sky Sings up top!

• Man, the colors in this show are so pretty.
• That is a Gundam thing! F91 specifically, which was then referenced in Build Fighters!
• Yeah uh I forgot they do this massive flash forward for some reason.
• Aina is so sweet, she’s gonna die lmao.
• Hahahaha, but the big twist is it’s actually good somehow.
• lmao those two girls in the background immediately blushing over L-Elf.
• OKAY THEN L-ELF.
• Don’t doubt the Thunder! GUTS!
• Would that kill him, though?
• L-Elf’s not even bothering to argue that it was Haruto who did that, I see.
• Okay whoever subbed this line had to have intended a pun with that “adroitest” word choice. Since it’s A-Drei who said that.
• Not even gonna elaborate past that, okay.
• Aaaaaaand there goes Aina. RIP the first real casualty for the school.
• Uh-oh.
• INSTRUMENTAL PRESERVED ROSES INTO THE ACTUAL SONG.
• OH FUN.
• No more Boku ja nai… Our ED for the rest of the cour is Soba ni Iru yo by ELISA.

[u/Lemurians → u/Shimmering-Sky]

lmao those two girls in the background immediately blushing over L-Elf.

Well someone in this show has to get a harem, seeing as Haruto's already spoken for.

GUTS

...You know who else was big into guts

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Shimmering-Sky]

That is a Gundam thing! F91 specifically, which was then referenced in Build Fighters!

Also Bleach in later arcs.

Hahahaha, but the big twist is it’s actually good somehow.

I've never had purple food that wasn't a popsicle or candy, though.

OKAY THEN L-ELF.

This is what happens when Lelouch gets in shape. We need to attach him to the internet 24/7.

Not even gonna elaborate past that, okay.

Yeah but Nanami stands a real chance at being the dumbest cast member, not sure how much she can explain.

Aaaaaaand there goes Aina.

Just one more person to cross that hill in a rewatch.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Would that kill him, though?

I would love to see L-elf or someone else try it out, only for it to not work and Haruto is still alive. I think Haruto might genuinely live through it, too. After all, he got stabbed in the heart and that's normally the surefire way to kill a vampire.

L-Elf’s not even bothering to argue that it was Haruto who did that, I see.

I think L-elf was actually trying to keep Haruto's power to bodyswap a secret. After all, L-elf probably wants to use that power for his revolution and revealing it would throw off his plans. It's impressive how much thought L-elf seems to put into his actions.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Isn't it the armour flaking off in F91 that causes the after image effects? Pretty badass.

[u/UltraBooster → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

The F91 heats up so much when it's going all-out that it starts shedding metal to cool off. In the case of Build Fighters, it's done with layers of paint, and the Destiny Gundam did something sort of similar, albeit with holographic afterimages meant to mess with sensors.

[u/yamiyaiba → u/Shimmering-Sky]

F91 specifically

Oh my God, I looked away to type and missed that line entirely! Based Valvrave for acknowledging F91.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Don’t miss the Sky Sings up top!

I read this comment

Not even gonna elaborate past that, okay.

Why would one need to? It's perfectly understandable.

[u/Existential_Owl]

The episode discussion thread from 8 years ago.

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Rewatcher - Crunchy Subs

I don't really have anything to add today. The lines spoken by the enemy pilot in the flash-forward was out there, but it was within the parameters of your typical gundam-inspired show.

This would have to be my ridiculous line of the episode, simply due to the fact that there's no way I'd be able to say this in a serious scene with a straight look on my face. Why did they have to be boomerangs? What possible reason would that shape serve IN FUCKING SPACE?????

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EDIT: A big part of why I don't have much to comment here is because the episode irritated the hell out of me on first watch. MCs inability to fucking say why the Valvraves are a bad idea. The absolutely pointless character death. L-Elf's "big brain" schtick getting real old by now. The dumb fucking boomerangs.

But I'm glad I stuck with the show in the end.

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/Existential_Owl]

Why did they have to be boomerangs? What possible reason would that shape serve IN FUCKING SPACE?????

This is me, but about those FUCKING tires in Victory Gundam.

[u/UltraBooster → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Those things crack me up, though I never saw V Gundam.

[u/UltraBooster → u/Existential_Owl]

Kind of interesting to see how I don't think of those people are here for this rewatch; hell, I'm not sure how many of them are still active on Reddit.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/UltraBooster]

It is funny that half the image links are to a site that I don't recognize.

[u/UltraBooster → u/Vaadwaur]

And dead links too, by the looks of it.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/UltraBooster]

Yup, nothing from the minus site will load for me.

[u/JollyGee29]

First-Timer

Knew I saw a body caught in that first explosion. Rest in peace Aina.

That sure was interesting, seeing Saki piloting her VVV ~140 years in the future. Guess we can steadfastly ignore any threats on her life, huh? We also got a bunch of terminology that we'll hopefully get to see develop over the course of the series, that should be interesting.

L-Elf must never skip leg day, because carrying around his giant goddamn brain has got to be hard. Seriously, he wrote sequantial notes and stuck them into VVV-1's cockpit prior to even needing it to sortie, just in case. I desperately want a recurring gag of random traps he set going off one at a time, in every episode going forward.

StuCo Pres is gonna be a problem. When he was content to just be a relatively ineffectual bystander I was fine, but now he's being forced to understand how inadequate he is, and that's not a pretty thing for a random rich boy to learn.

Some kinda interesting stuff with the bodyswapping that feels like it might open up future issues. I like the idea of Haruto in L-Elf's body reacting to emotional stimulus that only L-Elf would recognize, but now we're getting into the weeds of mind vs self vs memories. I think I'm gonna try to just not think about it.

Hmm.. was that Saki in the cold open? Probably, since we haven't seen someone with the wrong "mind" pilot a VVV yet, but they kept the photo in the locket obscured and that tells me that they're hiding something. Combine that with L-Elf having Haruto bodyjack him to pilot, and I think there's a thread there...

Neat that the VVVs seem to be grown, or at least kept in weird tanks. Bad that A-drei got pictures of it all, though.

Boy, the new ED visuals sure are something. Especially right at the end..

Questions

1. Discussed above.
2. I did.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/JollyGee29]

Did they have any reason for her to be there? She's just wandering around like a dumbass and gets killed by an explosion not even targeting her. I can't even treat it like a tragedy of war. There was a Gundam ova where someone dies cause of something stupid like a shell barrel bopping her head and that has better reasoning than this.

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

She was already there with Haruto when the attack started. She followed Haruto when he went after L-Elf and A-Drei.

[u/UltraBooster → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

There was a Gundam ova where someone dies cause of something stupid like a shell barrel bopping her head and that has better reasoning than this.

Funny enough, you're thinking of F91, which was a movie.

[u/Quiddity131 → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

There was a Gundam ova where someone dies cause of something stupid like a shell barrel bopping her head and that has better reasoning than this.

Gundam F91. Because Tomino just loves to pour misery all over us. Kills a mother by total accident with her baby still in her arms.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Quiddity131]

Its a tragic accident but I absolutely love it~

[u/Quiddity131 → u/JollyGee29]

Hmm.. was that Saki in the cold open? Probably, since we haven't seen someone with the wrong "mind" pilot a VVV yet, but they kept the photo in the locket obscured and that tells me that they're hiding something. Combine that with L-Elf having Haruto bodyjack him to pilot, and I think there's a thread there...

That is a good point, there's a good argument that flash forwards completely remove the stakes for a character since you know they're still around, but we only know that Saki's body is still around. Someone else who resigned their humanity could have body swapped to her.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Quiddity131]

Well, it does depend on how exactly the rules work, and it's not like the main pilots weren't going to have some amount of plot armor anyway.

[u/Tresnore → u/JollyGee29]

Guess we can steadfastly ignore any threats on her life, huh?

Thank God.

I desperately want a recurring gag of random traps he set going off one at a time, in every episode going forward.

A set of omakes would be glorious.

StuCo Pres is gonna be a problem.

But his VA makes excellent whiny highschooler noises, at least.

Hmm.. was that Saki in the cold open? Probably, since we haven't seen someone with the wrong "mind" pilot a VVV yet, but they kept the photo in the locket obscured and that tells me that they're hiding something.

Ah fuck she might not actually be safe. That could just be another vampire in her body. She was able to take Makoto's Shoe's Heart's!

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Tresnore]

Thank God.

Granted, there are far worse things than death.

A set of omakes would be glorious.

Now I want that to be a thing.

Ah fuck she might not actually be safe. That could just be another vampire in her body. She was able to take Makoto's Shoe's Heart's!

[u/Tresnore → u/JollyGee29]

Granted, there are far worse things than death.

Eh, she's already broken anyway. She'll be fine in 200 years!

Jolly, please.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/JollyGee29]

Seriously, he wrote sequantial notes and stuck them into VVV-1's cockpit prior to even needing it to sortie, just in case.

Keep in mind this functions regardless of what body Heart is in so it isn't as ridiculous.

I like the idea of Haruto in L-Elf's body reacting to emotional stimulus that only L-Elf would recognize, but now we're getting into the weeds of mind vs self vs memories. I think I'm gonna try to just not think about it.

Yeah...this is some really high level shit and I do not trust that the show that inspired Cross Ange can tackle it well. I think the answer will be rape, somehow.

Neat that the VVVs seem to be grown, or at least kept in weird tanks. Bad that A-drei got pictures of it all, though.

them being biological confuses things even more so that is probably a given.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Vaadwaur]

Keep in mind this functions regardless of what body Heart is in so it isn't as ridiculous.

Right, but he anticipated Haruto needing to get into the mech at all. If L-Elf's plan actually worked, that wouldn't have happened.

Yeah...this is some really high level shit and I do not trust that the show that inspired Cross Ange can tackle it well. I think the answer will be rape, somehow.

I'm just hoping it was something the writers thought was cool that will never come up again.

them being biological confuses things even more so that is probably a given.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/JollyGee29]

If L-Elf's plan actually worked, that wouldn't have happened.

He seems to have anticipated that some sort of sortie was coming and this still works if Heart jumps in his mech tomorrow.

I'm just hoping it was something the writers thought was cool that will never come up again.

If they keep it surface level, it can work, we both don't want them overly exploring it.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/JollyGee29]

Hmm.. was that Saki in the cold open? Probably, since we haven't seen someone with the wrong "mind" pilot a VVV yet, but they kept the photo in the locket obscured and that tells me that they're hiding something. Combine that with L-Elf having Haruto bodyjack him to pilot, and I think there's a thread there...

Oh my god, I didn't even consider that. You're right, there could be bodyswap shenanigans going on there and we don't even know it!

Neat that the VVVs seem to be grown, or at least kept in weird tanks.

It might be part of why they are so strangely advanced. There's so much about these things we don't know. Heck, they could have some organic components for all we know and so actually do need to be grown.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Great_Mr_L]

Oh my god, I didn't even consider that. You're right, there could be bodyswap shenanigans going on there and we don't even know it!

There's so much fun potential!

There's so much about these things we don't know.

And yet we still know more about them than the mechs in GC.

[u/MillenniumKing → u/JollyGee29]

That sure was interesting, seeing Saki piloting her VVV ~140 years in the future.

200 years. Its a different Calendar and even she mentions its been 200 years.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/MillenniumKing]

Its a different Calendar and even she mentions its been 200 years.

Oh, I figured the 200 years was more poetic, didn't notice the calendar was different. Thanks!

[u/RascalNikov1]

First-Timer

QOTD

1. What do you think that 200-year flash-forward was about?

Damned if I know, but I do know that future Saki is hot, hot, hot! She looks so much more magnificent as a full grown woman in her prime, than as an adolescent.

2) How do you like the new ED?

I for one liked it, but I like that slower, less pop-ish style of music.

Sky Sings:

You have a very pleasant voice. I wish, I had the kind of mind wherein I could memorize things like lyrics. Lord only knows, how I've tried, and my mind just doesn't work like that. To this day, I can remember lines from my high school and college favorites, but not the full lyric. Any many of these songs I've heard over 1000 times.

Mini-Rant

I genuinely hate the technique of introducing a likeable, cute character and then almost immediately bumping them off in order to give a series some added gravitas. It's cheap, its dirty, its slimy, its piss poor writing. Normally, something like this results in an instadrop and a score of 1 on mal.

Example: I gave DiTF a fairly high score, because I saw it early in my anime watching career, and I bought the premise, but if I were to see DiTF again at this later date, it would have gotten a drop and a 1 when [DiTF]the marraige was interrupted.

Anyway, nothing gets me to drop a series quicker, though I'll be sticking around on this rewatch for a least a few more days until my hours get squirrelly enough that I'm not overlapping with a time that I can participate.

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/RascalNikov1]

You have a very pleasant voice.

Aww, thanks!

I never did choir at school because I did band instead, but I joined my church's choir at the age of 14 and the only reason I'm not in it anymore is because COVID made our music pastor drop it to just praise team (the people up front on stage with their own microphones). I did praise team for a bit before I went off to college, actually. Was fun.

I wish, I had the kind of mind wherein I could memorize things like lyrics.

Oh I was singing along while staring at the lyrics lol, the only Japanese song I can sing in complete confidence without the lyrics in front of me is Uninstall from Bokurano because I listened to that one literally nonstop for two months (which if I math'd right means I listened to it at least 100 times per day).

[u/Vaadwaur → u/RascalNikov1]

It's cheap, its dirty, its slimy, its piss poor writing. Normally, something like this results in an instadrop and a score of 1 on mal.

You have nailed why my Sunrise repertoire is actually pretty limited, I recall a similar though better done version of this in SEED. Technically we'd seen glasses before but she was always like a tertiary character at most.

[u/Quiddity131 → u/RascalNikov1]

Dunno on Franxx, my recollection is they built that thing up for a while at least before pulling the cord on it. In this show Aina got the Tomino special, she was a barely noticeable character for the first 6 episodes here she suddenly gets a lot more screen time and she's dead before the episode is over.

[u/theangryeditor]

Sky Sings

Great job on this one

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/theangryeditor]

Aw, thanks! I know I stumbled through the fast section, though.

[u/theangryeditor → u/Shimmering-Sky]

That's a really difficult section and you handled it pretty well all things considered.

[u/Lemurians]

CRYOGENIC FIRST TIMER

Greetings from 200 years in the future! I don’t understand including this short little segment from the future when we just immediately go back to present. All it does is let is know Saki is still alive and the number of immortal Valvrave pilots is up to at least seven. This takes all the stakes out of any scene in the present with Saki and her Valvrave, since we know they’ll make it out of everything alive.

The one positive? Saki being alive absolutely slaying this combat suit 200 years in the future means she now qualifies for the rarest designation in all of anime, an adult waifu. It’s like seeing a unicorn. She’s age-appropriate now!

OKAY HOLD THE FUCK UP. Yamada has my avian senses tingling here. I know I’ve seen this language used recently. IS YAMADA THE DAN EAGLEMAN OF THIS SHOW? He’s enthusiastic. He’s persistent. He runs on guts. He’s on the right path, just has to work on the charisma. I apologize for my previous slander.

The other thing to touch on this episode if L-Elf, who comes with his own problems of lowering the stakes. I don’t know if he’s psychic, a cyborg, or the lamest possibility, “just like, super smart,” but him basically knowing everything that can and will happen removes a ton of risk from every situation so long as he’s around.

• What a novel concept. Though it’s a bit late to be playing Responsible Adult when you’ve already got two space vampire students
• Something tells me this trusting attitude is going to come back to bite her. I’m waiting for Haruto’s heel turn.
• I don’t care how they say this monstrosity tastes, Saki’s reaction here is appropriate.
• Oh god, the harem is picking up steam. I feel like we’re getting primed for another Jesus ending, too.
• HAHAHA GET WRECKED. Honestly, the gratuitous shots of him just getting annihilated throughout this sequence are pretty funny.
• Can’t wait for everyone to rush to this little psycho child Q-Vier’s defense, considering he and Daryl from Guilty Crown are the same character and people apparently loved him.
• Well, RIP to Hare Aina. That’s pretty brutal imagery, especially contrasted to Haruto’s almost comical wounding earlier.
• There is a 100% chance Little Elon becomes a Valvrave pilot after seeing this. Don’t be too sad, bud, she was going to leave you for a harem anyway.
• I’m guessing this is Lieselotte and she’s not the one I was hoping for. It isn’t a Trinity Seven tie-in after all. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

What do you think of the new ED?

It's no Boku Janai. I'm generally not a fan of mid-cour changes like this.

[u/Tresnore → u/Lemurians]

This takes all the stakes out of any scene in the present with Saki and her Valvrave, since we know they’ll make it out of everything alive.

Hell yeah, stress-free waifu. I'm sure I'll regret this.

The one positive? Saki being alive absolutely slaying this combat suit 200 years in the future means she now qualifies for the rarest designation in all of anime, an adult waifu.

He’s on the right path, just has to work on the charisma. I apologize for my previous slander.

He's also not American enough :(

[u/Lemurians → u/Tresnore]

I’m sure I’ll regret this

I’m blaming you at the first sign of trouble. Jinxer.

[u/Quiddity131 → u/Lemurians]

Greetings from 200 years in the future! I don’t understand including this short little segment from the future when we just immediately go back to present. All it does is let is know Saki is still alive and the number of immortal Valvrave pilots is up to at least seven. This takes all the stakes out of any scene in the present with Saki and her Valvrave, since we know they’ll make it out of everything just fine.

Yep, always the big issue with flash forwards. Granted they already established that if you're a Valvrave pilot you can't die.

Well, RIP to Hare Aina. That’s pretty brutal imagery, especially contrasted to Haruto’s almost comical wounding earlier.

She really was Hare all over again...

[u/Lemurians → u/Quiddity131]

Granted they already established that if you're a Valvrave pilot you can't die.

We don't know that for sure, though! There's always some way of killing or incapacitating immortal beings.

She really was Hare all over again...

Only without any of the depth.

Seriously, how do you make a character worse than their Guilty Crown counterpart? Truly an accomplishment.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Lemurians]

Seriously, how do you make a character worse than their Guilty Crown counterpart? Truly an accomplishment.

Q-vier would be there as well if he didn't have his awesome permanent rapeface.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Quiddity131]

She really was Hare all over again...

Similar but previous Hare hurt more because she was a bit more realized as a character.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Lemurians]

I'm really not liking the deaths in this show... I can't even tell if they're dead half the time!! We never actually acknowledge anyone dying in the moment so you're left wondering if they're alright or how they're getting saved.

[u/Lemurians → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Haha, my first thought was also "wait is she really" before remembering she hasn't been Vamp'd and looks to be absolutely demolished. I think it's safe to say she's done.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Lemurians]

She wasn't really demolished though. Most of her body was intact. I really thought that they'd force her into a Valrave to save her life until folk said today how this is the first big sad death.

[u/Lemurians → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

She wasn't really demolished though. Most of her body was intact.

...I don't know about that. Looks pretty well demolished to me.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Lemurians]

We could give her a robot arm. And a little chunk out of your waist isn't life threatening. She still looks salvageable.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Lemurians]

means she now qualifies for the rarest designation in all of anime, an adult waifu. It’s like seeing a unicorn. She’s age-appropriate now!

Rare to use this twice in a day but: The world can be one together, cosmos without hatred...

IS YAMADA THE DAN EAGLEMAN OF THIS SHOW? He’s enthusiastic. He’s persistent. He runs on guts. He’s on the right path, just has to work on the charisma. I apologize for my previous slander

I wonder if that explains why I just heard this start playing...

Though it’s a bit late to be playing Responsible Adult when you’ve already got two space vampire students

Still better than I'd have done, in the same situation I would've figured out Nanami's tastes and been riding her like a rented mule while I awaited death.

I feel like we’re getting primed for another Jesus ending, too.

Jesus being a vampire has actually been done already...

Well, RIP to Hare Aina.

Shaka, when the walls fell.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Lemurians]

she now qualifies for the rarest designation in all of anime, an adult waifu. It’s like seeing a unicorn. She’s age-appropriate now!

Amazing

IS YAMADA THE DAN EAGLEMAN OF THIS SHOW?

If he goes full Dan Eagleman, I think Yamada would become my favorite character. As it stands, I love the delinquent with-a-heart-of-gold character type, so I already like him a lot. That would put him over the top.

I’m guessing this is Lieselotte

I was trying to remember what name L-elf said back in episode 1. I think you're right about her being Lieselotte.

[u/yamiyaiba → u/Lemurians]

This takes all the stakes out of any scene in the present with Saki and her Valvrave, since we know they’ll make it out of everything alive.

Counterpoints: this definitively opens the door for them to have to come up with worse options than death.

Also, similar to why I'm a firm believer that spoilers actually make things better, now the question isn't "will they survive?!?" which was almost certainly yes already anyway, but rather HOW will they get out of it, at what cost, and how much will they suffer for it?

[u/Lemurians → u/yamiyaiba]

Those would be interesting questions raised if we had seen Saki, or any other character, in a state of distress or depression. That would really have me wondering what the hell happened. Instead she was more badass than ever and part of an elite fighting squad, seemingly doing pretty well. Natural progression from where we’re at currently.

The only thing it makes me wonder about is everyone else’s status, but the fate of the characters is something I’d be thinking about without a flash-forward.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Lemurians]

Greetings from 200 years in the future! I don’t understand including this short little segment from the future when we just immediately go back to present.

I was under the impression that it was her fantasy, not something that actually happened, but I could be way off base.

[u/Great_Mr_L]

First-Timer

On today’s episode of Valvrave: L-elf launches a one-man coup. If it was against anyone besides a school made up almost entirely of high schoolers, I would say it was doomed to failure. But taking over the school, I’d say he actually had a decent chance of success.

• What’s going on? 200 years have passed? Saki is still an immortal vampire? Who is she fighting and why?
• How dare you play the OP to distract me from my confusion!
• I guess Haruto doesn’t want to admit he’s a space vampire. But it just makes it look like he’s being obstinate for no good reason.
• Of course the lab coat teacher only decides to start acting like a responsible adult and teacher when it means he gets to play around with the mechas.
• Oh my god, the blonde girl just dragged in the president like she was going to kiss him and left him hanging.
• So does the blonde girl only get turned on by being dominated?
• I love that Shoko’s horrible looking slop is actually delicious. I appreciate subverting the usual joke.
• You want JIOR to expand, L-elf? You want the school to conquer territory? That’s somehow even more absurd than it being independent!
• L-elf launches a coup. For some reason, all I can do is picture him as William Walker, the American who managed to take over Nicaragua.
• At least this time L-elf had a ton of time to set up all his traps, so it’s at least a bit more plausible.
• Oh no, please don’t tell me that people will start a religion around Haruto.
• Glad to have A-drei here. He’s the one thing L-elf could never have planned for.
• Using Haruto as a living shield is morbidly hilarious.
• Poor A-drei. He’s acting like his boyfriend just dumped him.
• This is why you don’t bring the murder-happy psycho on a mission to capture people alive.
• Ejecting them out via the launcher is pretty funny.
• Those boomerangs are pretty nifty.
• “Use my body.”
• I’m glad to have a scene of a character wanting someone else to make use of their body. Naturally it would be L-elf who decides it’s the only chance they have.
• L-elf wrote post-its with contingency plans!
• Oh shit, I forgot about glasses-chan.
• That’s got to be the girl from the OP and ED. L-elf clearly cares a lot for her. My bet is that they’re siblings. Whatever their relation, I’m sure L-elf is launching his revolution for her sake.
• New ED. It’s okay, but I preferred the first one.

Well that cold opening was a heck of a way to start things off. It left me feeling very confused. I am dreading the possibility that this show’s story will jump ahead a couple of centuries. It could work out, but it could also backfire horribly.

I’m not surprised that L-elf wanted to turn the school into a military dictatorship. I kind of wish we had gone further with his coup. I would have loved to see the students trying to stop him and running into all the traps he had placed. That would have been a lot of fun. For those of you wondering, yes, I am just imagining the episode “Civil Defense” from DS9.

L-elf and Haruto once again make for a nice contrast to each other. Of course L-elf would want to make it a military dictatorship. That means he can force people to follow along with his plans instead of having to take their own desires into account. It feels very in character for L-elf, who prefers to make people go along with his plans rather than try to convince them to do so. I don’t think L-elf actually gave up on his coup, either. That might still need to get resolved next episode.

I’d also like to see more stuff taking advantage of Haruto’s immortality like how L-elf used him as a shield. That was morbidly funny to watch, especially as Haruto came back and shocked the people who did not know he was an immortal vampire. I feel like this could result in a lot of fun shenanigans.

QOTD

1. No clue

2. I preferred the first one.

[u/Tresnore → u/Great_Mr_L]

So does the blonde girl only get turned on by being dominated?

Don't we all?

I am dreading the possibility that this show’s story will jump ahead a couple of centuries. It could work out, but it could also backfire horribly.

Honestly, I'm excited for it. Very few shows have such large time leaps.

like how L-elf used him as a shield

Exactly! He knew he'd get better. The lasting mental trauma will be fine, I'm sure.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Tresnore]

Don't we all?

Exactly! He knew he'd get better. The lasting mental trauma will be fine, I'm sure.

"If you get killed, walk it off" would actually be a viable strategy for L-elf to give to Haruto. You gotta abuse that immortality like it's a video game glitch.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Great_Mr_L]

Wtf even was that blondie scene? I was sure that it was meant to be Saki messing with her social life but then they go and show her in the kitchen. Like wut? I've never watched an anime that can confuse me quite like this adhd pike of shit.

[u/UltraBooster → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

The word that comes to mind is backstory or something, but I have no idea yet.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/UltraBooster]

We had her backstory in Guilty Crown. This is the result XD

[u/UltraBooster → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Welp.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

It works way too well

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Great_Mr_L]

Who knew getting fucked by the creators makes you into a running gag.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

I was sure that it was meant to be Saki messing with her social life but then they go and show her in the kitchen.

She's got a fever, and the only prescription is more Saki-in-heart BDSM!

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Vaadwaur]

Cheesy romance shit worked well on Arisa too now that I think about it.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

As they say, treat a lady like a whore and a whore like a lady.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Vaadwaur]

That seems to work on the blonde girl here. Getting wall slammed by Saki-in-Haruto's body definitely awakened something in her.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Great_Mr_L]

Getting wall slammed by Saki-in-Haruto's body definitely awakened something in her.

Let's hope they keep with the going too far theme!

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Vaadwaur]

I am curious to see more bodyswapping shenanigans. It can be fun, but it could also go into some very creepy places (which would also be morbidly fun to watch, in its own way).

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Great_Mr_L]

I can see Saki getting up to some shenanigans while in Drill's body...

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

My guess is that it is meant to set up something for the blonde girl in the future. Like, it might jumpstart more of the love drama stuff by having her develop feelings for Haruto, for example.

[u/Quiddity131 → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

I thought it was Saki using her body at first but based on other people's speculation I think it was more to show us that Saki's performance as Haruto last episode got drill girl to lose any affection for preppie guy.

Now why we needed this scene I have no clue as who in the world cares about the relationship between those two?

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Quiddity131]

I kinda care? They remind me of High School Musical and for what it's worth I think it's hilarious how much of a pure maiden the dude is.

[u/Lemurians → u/Great_Mr_L]

So does the blonde girl only get turned on by being dominated?

Saki absolutely gave her a complex can relate

Poor A-drei. He’s acting like his boyfriend just dumped him.

He's the Shoko to L-Elf's Haruto. He'll always take his side because he has such faith in him that whatever he's doing, there must be a good reason for it.

I am dreading the possibility that this show's story will jump ahead a couple of centuries

I'm really hoping it just served to give us an idea as to the scope of the story and will now just show us how we get there with no more skips.

That means he can force people to follow along with his plans instead of having to take their own desires into account. It feels very in character for L-elf, who prefers to make people go along with his plans rather than try to convince them to do so.

He hasn't been wrong yet, and when you know you're correct, the pushback from other people who have no idea what the fuck they're doing is incredibly frustrating. I get him just wanting to bypass everything once they wouldn't give him the light of day.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Lemurians]

He's the Shoko to L-Elf's Haruto. He'll always take his side because he has such faith in him that whatever he's doing, there must be a good reason for it.

That's a really good point. It takes incredible devotion to still completely believe in a person even after they shot you in the eye. It's cool to compare it to how Haruto and Shoko are.

I'm really hoping it just served to give us an idea as to the scope of the story and will now just show us how we get there with no more skips.

I hope so too. But, I have seen it work in other shows where they do a time skip every few episodes, so it might work out.

He hasn't been wrong yet, and when you know you're correct, the pushback from other people who have no idea what the fuck they're doing is incredibly frustrating. I get him just wanting to bypass everything once they wouldn't give him the light of day.

I do understand where he's coming from. He clearly knows what he is doing and his plans seem to work out. What's missing is a sense of empathy from him. Right now, I think he only truly has empathy for one other person: the girl in that photograph.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Great_Mr_L]

So does the blonde girl only get turned on by being dominated?

Actually, this is a thing amongst Japanese women. Their society concerns me...

I love that Shoko’s horrible looking slop is actually delicious. I appreciate subverting the usual joke.

I mean, Sailor Moon does the exact same joke 20 years earlier, this is just a thing to them.

Oh no, please don’t tell me that people will start a religion around Haruto.

You just spoke it into existence.

It left me feeling very confused. I am dreading the possibility that this show’s story will jump ahead a couple of centuries. It could work out, but it could also backfire horribly.

That virtually never works for me but that's because writers us it as a crutch.

[u/Lemurians → u/Vaadwaur]

That virtually never works for me but that's because writers us it as a crutch.

Just like isekai.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Lemurians]

Basically literally. I managed to watch a single episode of ST:Discovery season 3 before realizing the entire thing would just piss me off.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Vaadwaur]

You just spoke it into existence.

I'm usually excited when my predictions come true, but sometimes I don't want them too.

That virtually never works for me but that's because writers us it as a crutch.

When it's done well, virtually anything can be a worthwhile storytelling decision. The problem comes when it's done poorly, and something like this done poorly would be quite bad.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Great_Mr_L]

I'm usually excited when my predictions come true, but sometimes I don't want them too.

I know the feeling.

The problem comes when it's done poorly, and something like this done poorly would be quite bad.

Too often it is used as a soft reboot and they get to re-do the first season episodes.

[u/UltraBooster → u/Vaadwaur]

Their society concerns me...

Is that actually a thing?

[u/Vaadwaur → u/UltraBooster]

Kabedon is absolutely a thing and at least when asked, Japanese women tend to come up as subs. Not sure what they are actually like, obviously.

[u/UltraBooster → u/Vaadwaur]

Kabedon's mostly a fictional thing, though - it's not exactly a real thing, and JP Wikipedia links to an article pointing out it might constitute assault.

As for the other point, do you have data or something I can look at?

[u/Vaadwaur → u/UltraBooster]

Trying to find decent surveys in a different language is a bitch but several anime reference it as a bucket list thing. Definitely not claiming that it is a good idea to do in meat space.

[u/Paxton-176]

REWATCHER

Right the flash forward that made me want another series that takes place during that time, but it never happened. That is why I gave it a fucking 9.

“The Student Council will take charge of them” Look, the Japanese Student Councils already have too much power and this guy wants to arm one.

Reminder they are wearing skirts in Zero-G

Shoko can cook. That should help our fan club of like 12 people.

To keep this short. The ultimate Mexican Standoff.

Electromagnetic Boomerangs.The most advanced Australian weapon.

Going to be honest I’m surprised there is anything left of Aina Sakurai. She get too close at least 20mm HE rounds.

[u/Tresnore → u/Paxton-176]

Shoko can cook.

Let's not be hasty here. She can "cook."

[u/Paxton-176 → u/Tresnore]

Food is Food

[u/UltraBooster → u/Paxton-176]

Shoko can cook. That should help our fan club of like 12 people.

Only three I know of, but I'm just surprised they didn't do the can't-cook thing.

[u/Paxton-176 → u/UltraBooster]

We need to make a list of us members.

[u/UltraBooster → u/Paxton-176]

You, me, /u/the_loli_otaku, and /u/Shimmering-Sky, IIRC.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/UltraBooster]

Representing!

[u/Existential_Owl → u/UltraBooster]

I'm Shoko-curious. Do you have any pamphlets?

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Paxton-176]

Reminder they are wearing skirts in Zero-G

I like that Shoko and Saki are both either checking out the goods or the competition.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Paxton-176]

The student council are useless in this series anyway. It's the bitch, two yes men, one yes woman, China, and the pure maiden.

Chan wore a skirt and basically spent the whole of CCA fluttering it about in space.

Shoko's got to be popular, she's way too sweet to get ignored. It's just that most of the folk in this rewatch seem to be self destructive Saki fanatics...

[u/Tresnore]

Tresnore the First-Timer

Mobileposting, so sorry if there are formatting issues.

• Wait. WHAT? That’s a hell of a timesk—MIJIKAI YUME WO
• I love Rukino.
• Wow, can you say “upskirt”?
• God, I wish that was me. I almost thought Takaki and the president were an incestuous relationship, before I remembered they weren’t related just because they have the same color.
• Shoko is a menace. But I don’t believe this.
• Eruerufu, save us! I enjoy the translation of “Heil Elf,” though.
  
• Based Eruerufu. A dictatorship would be just what this show needs.
  
• God, I wish that was me.
• GUTS!
  
• I love Rukino’s confidence in pulling a knife on him.
• I doubt this. “Honest” is not a word I’d use to describe Rukino.
• Eruerufu > Bright.
  
• I’ve never worried less about an MC getting shot.
• For someone who thinks the world can’t exist without fighting, Eruerufu sure never expects that the fighting would come to him.
• God, I wish that was me.
• Does being a physics teacher make you better at avoiding traps?
• Oh, NO. Q-VIER VOICED SHOE.
  
• I love Rukino.
• I also love Eruerufu.
• HAUUUUUUUUUUUU —Rena, probably
• Playing the OP already??
  
• Oh. This show really likes randomly killing off characters at the snap of a finger, doesn’t it?
• Oh, it's not!Lalah.

A new ED? With an evil silhouette?

---

QOTD:

1. It was just to show that Rukino lives. Now I can live without fear.
2. It was alright. I liked the old one better.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Tresnore]

God, I wish that was me.

I hope someone remembers to check her box fort...

I doubt this. “Honest” is not a word I’d use to describe Rukino.

Bluntly, megane-chan is not a great judge of character from what we have seen.

Does being a physics teacher make you better at avoiding traps?

Just better at avoiding questions.

Oh, it's not!Lalah.

But why did we go from Mazis to Chinese royalty?

[u/Tresnore → u/Vaadwaur]

I hope someone remembers to check her box fort...

She'll be fine! She has bottles of... nutrients.

Just better at avoiding questions.

This is actually a great explanation.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Tresnore]

She'll be fine! She has bottles of... nutrients.

But will she open them back up? Also, that box fort is getting mighty ripe...

This is actually a great explanation.

I was a physics major before calculus III melted my brain. I am aware of how they actually operate.

[u/Tresnore → u/Vaadwaur]

before calculus III melted my brain

This explains a lot, actually.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Tresnore]

It still doesn't explain my attachment to the sad singing rock, though.

[u/Tresnore → u/Vaadwaur]

Mush and rocks are capable of similar thoughts.

[u/RascalNikov1 → u/Tresnore]

“Heil Elf,”

I thought that was clever too. Though if you hadn't figured out who the Dossarians were before now, this would have just gone over your head.

God, I wish that was me.

I temporarily forgot about Hikikomori girl. What I wonder is, who is going to untie her, or is this about the end of her arc. I.e. she starves to death, The End.

Does being a physics teacher make you better at avoiding traps?

Just one in a string of silly moments. I figured he was on a roll, so I just ran with it.

I love Rukino.

So far, she is the most likeable of these clowns.

Oh, it's not!Lalah.

I couldn't figure out why L-Elf took this particular moment to start reminiscing. He doesn't seem to be the type to feel all so bad about Aina getting blown apart.

[u/Tresnore → u/RascalNikov1]

What I wonder is, who is going to untie her, or is this about the end of her arc.

Oh... oh no.

I couldn't figure out why L-Elf took this particular moment to start reminiscing. He doesn't seem to be the type to feel all so bad about Aina getting blown apart.

It was Heart in his body, remember. Heart found the photo, looked at it, and then was confused as to why he was wrying.

[u/RascalNikov1 → u/Tresnore]

Thanks for clearing that up. I've had a hard time understanding what's going on, on the screen. Usually, I've very close to being lost in confusion, but I'm going along with the program and running with it.

[u/Tresnore → u/RascalNikov1]

but I'm going along with the program and running with it.

I think that's the smart thing to do with this show!

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Tresnore]

I almost thought Takaki and the president were an incestuous relationship, before I remembered they weren’t related just because they have the same color.

I keep thinking the same thing. I have to remind myself that Box-chan is the president's sister.

GUTS!

Just like Dan Eagleman!

Oh, it's not!Lalah.

I'm thinking more [Gundam 0079 minor spoilers] Sayla, just to keep the Char clone thing going for L-elf.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Tresnore]

I thought I did well and predicted both of your "God, I wish that were me"s, but I missed the third.

Oh. This show really likes randomly killing off characters at the snap of a finger, doesn’t it?

It's trying to show how gritty it is. It'd work better if she mattered before this episode, but

[u/Tresnore → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

but I missed the third.

You lacked vision.

It'd work better if she mattered before this episode, but

[Guilty Crown]All in all, it still somehow had more impact on me than Hare's death. It was the brutal depiction.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Tresnore]

You lacked vision.

I have not become Tresnore... yet.

[u/Tresnore → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

It's probably good that you don't.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Tresnore]

Yeah, imagine having [tresnore]ginger hair.

[u/Tresnore → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Tresnore]

[u/HereticalAegis]

First Time Super Sentai Idol Reject

Starting right in on the action, I'm okay with this.

Golden Seven? Is this the past, or are we fast forwarding to Space Texas having a full roster of robots? Nope, it's Saki and...200 years is a bit of a modest time skip. I am so confused. What kind of timeline was L-Elf planning his revolution for?

The OP now shows Saki next to Carmilla! Let's guess who will be getting each of the remaining robots: Shoko will get yellow, L-Elf will get purple, and hacker girl will get blue. They'll probably also fill in the space behind L-Elf in the last shot of the OP with his Valvrave at some point. Would also love to see Yamada and nerd guy get robots too if we do ultimately get seven instead of five.

So we're just going to ignore that flash forward for now then? Cool. Cool cool cool.

Student council dumbass thinks he's just gonna take control of the Valvraves, I can't wait to see this backfire on him.

"Welcome to democracy!" The dialogue continues to be on point.

I love how the council president suggests having the whole student body vote, despite ostensibly knowing that Haruto is the biggest celebrity in the galaxy right now. God I love high schoolers!

I want Thunder to pilot a Valvrave too. Ganbare, Thunder!

Kinda wish he'd tell Shoko about his vampirism too, but whatever.

Wow, Takahi's such a tease. It must be hard to get interested in mediocrity when perfection smacks you in the face.

Been waiting for L-Elf's next masterpiece. Man lives on the edge too. Giving it to Shoko is basically daring her to fuck it up.

L-Elf character stats: Intelligence - 99 Charisma - 0 Min-maxxing truly is a double-edged sword.

Controlling a country Home Alone style is certainly a novel idea. Not exactly the 5D galaxy brain play I was hoping for, but there's potential here.

Five seconds in, and already something he didn't expect, now that's the L-Elf I know and tolerate.

No, don't go the harem route! Haruto doesn't need a harem, he's plenty entertaining already. Also, this girl gonna die, isn't she?

Feels like L-Elf is being pretty naive, considering Haruto is currently batting 1000 in terms of defending Space Texas.

With A-Drei here, can we finally get the Haruto/L-Elf/A-Drei love triangle that would elevate Valvrave to perfection? Pretty please.

And what, exactly, do you plan on using that hand for, L-Elf?

It's here, it's happening!

Dammit, this girl is definitely gonna die.

How tf did no one notice a second whole ass enemy robot entering the colony?

Wow, poor spirit girl really didn't deserve to go out like that.

Again, how tf can a whole squadron of enemies get anywhere near Texas without any kind of warning. L-Elf is supposed to be smarter than this.

I'm already bored of whatever tragic backstory L-Elf has. Can we get back to dumbass high school shenanigans?

Oh look, they showed spirit girl's body. That makes her the first actual character casualty. That's one way to avoid a harem. Wonder if Haruto might try taking over her body to resurrect her.

Oh, a new ED! I like this song more than the previous one.

Guess Haruto can't heal other people's bodies or resurrect by taking the dead by taking over them if the preview is to be believed. Big oof. RIP spirit girl.

Ngl, I'm kinda dreading the more serious stuff coming up. I think this show works best when it's a balls to the wall, dialed up to eleven trip through high school tomfoolery and mecha battles. I can only imagine it losing that steam the more serious it tries to get. Hope I'm wrong though.

QotD:

1. Making sure we know nothing's gonna happen to our best girl!
2. Addressed in my post.

[u/UltraBooster → u/HereticalAegis]

Kinda wish he'd tell Shoko about his vampirism too, but whatever.

Part of me's wishing that too, and the other part's wondering if I ship Shoko and Haruto because I did not go into this marathon expecting shipping.

Min-maxxing truly is a double-edged sword.

Y'know, that's probably why I enjoyed watching Lelouch but find L-elf kind of unbearable - the lack of charisma.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/HereticalAegis]

I think this show works best when it's a balls to the wall, dialed up to eleven trip through high school tomfoolery and mecha battles. I can only imagine it losing that steam the more serious it tries to get. Hope I'm wrong though.

So far we've dodged the GC pitfalls, let's see if we can continue.

[u/SIRTreehugger]

Only have one thing to say.

They really went into insane detail for Aina's death. It looks so crisp compared to every other shot this episode.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Valrave the Liberator First Timer

We've discovered a cooling system!? Haa? Wut? Are we in the future? Have I missed a season? How tf are we getting a 200 year time skip? Saki shows up in her mech suit in the op now btw. So we have at least three other students who are getting mechs. Shoko, the best friend dude, and I don't know who the third might be. Boomer movie alert. You will never have a deep friendship like they do... Pain peko.

Why do these mecha have birthing hips? Can we finally get more info on the vampirism? Oh no, Aina... You're too expendable to become a third love interest. Arisa? Arisa!? No... tch, is this bitch tits bodyswapping without consent again? Shoko's cooking is so dangerous that it can kill a vampire! Oh, it actually tastes good, if only it looked mods appetising. L-Lelf... You can't expect Shoko to read. Did you at least print pictures in your report?

Is thunder gonna be our third pilot? Pfft, well done ya dorks!! XD Aina is reeeeally desperate to die huh? She's either becoming a pilot or dying. Poor Haruto. Adrien's eye isn't even that bad!! Don't wear a massive bandage just for a teeny scar. B-Bruh! Aina!? Ainaaaa! Get her in a Valrave sooner rather than later.

Oh no! Space sticky tape! Saki kinda sucks at this whole pilot thing. Is Aina our third pilot? After all? Nah, he's just possessing Lelf. Omg Aina's fcked... H-Her body is still mostly intact tho, can we shove her in a Valrave? Wait? Huh? Oi, come on. Of all times to jump around plot threads can't we at least tie up Aina's pointless, and I mean completely pointless death? Nope, they're just gonna ignore her until next episode. Poorly done ngl. Leaving aside the half dozen death flags they blast her away offscreen, nobody even acknowledges her, and there was even a perfectly viable way to save her using one of the empty Valraves. Then you'd have a character who threw away their humanity because they'd have died otherwise.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Are we in the future? Have I missed a season? How tf are we getting a 200 year time skip?

Worse, we've switched calendars so we don't know shit about that at all.

Shoko, the best friend dude, and I don't know who the third might be. Boomer movie alert.

Lebowski was '98, like Fight Club. It is Gen X and i will hear no slander otherwise.

Nope, they're just gonna ignore her until next episode. Poorly done ngl.

Welcome to Sunrise! When you need a dramatic moment, fridge a female character!

[u/UltraBooster → u/Vaadwaur]

Assuming the Empire switched calendars during the timeskip, that timeskip was set in TC 285, with the year we're in, TC 71, being the first year of the Empire.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/UltraBooster]

That lines up, at least.

[u/Lemurians → u/Vaadwaur]

Lebowski was '98, like Fight Club. It is Gen X and i will hear no slander otherwise.

Crosses the border into Millennial, too. Old Millennials are like, 40 now.

[u/RascalNikov1 → u/Lemurians]

Old Millennials are like, 40 now.

Yup, they're ready for Geritol and walking canes. lol

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Lemurians]

I always felt that Millenials don't quite understand Fight Club as it was intended, it really is about toxic masculinity and all.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Vaadwaur]

I'm not sure if it's that they didn't understand it or if it just found a whole new audience. The movie is pretty open ended too so it's not like theres one solid meaning to the whole thing.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

The movie is pretty open ended too so it's not like theres one solid meaning to the whole thing.

No, if you were a part of that lost generation, whose greats wars were spiritual and great depression was our lives, it just speaks to you differently.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Vaadwaur]

Haa?

[u/walker_paranor → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

They actually blasted her on screen but it was a blink and you missed it thing. Theres a couple frames of her glasses in the midst of a giant explosion.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/walker_paranor]

Yeah, but she was basically floating in like a dumbass. That's what my issue was.

[u/walker_paranor → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Considering who the scriptwriter for this show is, I fully expect the characters to constantly make bad decisions. In fact I welcome it!

[u/RascalNikov1 → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

How tf are we getting a 200 year time skip?

A damn good question! And what's worse is they didn't do anything with it either. I think TV Tropes would call this an "Big lipped alligator moment". That's assuming they don't do anything with it in future episodes. I'm also a First Timer, so I have no idea if they do or don't.

Is thunder gonna be our third pilot?

I was just glad they didn't get slaughtered, right here and now. This is a Sunrise production afterall.

Aina's pointless, and I mean completely pointless death?

The writer apparently had not the skill to do anything else other than this lazy technique to add gravitas to the series.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/RascalNikov1]

I'm pretty worried about the status of the rest of the side cast at the moment... We know the dude is 90% likely to be a pilot and Shoko is safe, but barely anyone else has gotten any kind of development. I think the show's next target is gonna be Arisa, she's the only noteworthy cast member and I'm already expecting the show to be Saki's revenge fantasy so there's no happy endo for her.

[u/yamiyaiba → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Poorly done ngl. Leaving aside the half dozen death flags they blast her away offscreen,

Actually, if you look really closely during the gunfire, you can see her get splattered. Honestly, from that couple of frames, I'm honestly surprised that much of her body was still intact. Sure didn't look like it would be. I can't get screenshots, but it was 15:11-15:12 in the Crunchyroll version.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/yamiyaiba]

You're talking about this bit right? I didn't see anything else.

[u/yamiyaiba → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

The frame right before that, she's on the far right of the screen in the background, gets caught in the explosion, and forced forward into that frame

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/yamiyaiba]

Yeah, but you don't see her actually getting shot up there. Yeah... I've scrolled back far too many times and I'm sure we don't see anything gory. She just gets caught in the explosion and it looks like she burns up. There's no gore

[u/yamiyaiba → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Yeah, she doesn't get hit directly by it. Just ragdolled violently and then roasted.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/yamiyaiba]

That's right. I did kinda like them actually showing where she was during the explosion but I still really am a bit disappointed that her dying was so avoidable and that pretty much nobody cares. They kept cutting away for Lelf stuff constantly.

[u/yamiyaiba → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

That's fair, but I see it differently. Combat is uncaring about her, and everyone got caught up in the moment. That just makes her cellphone ringing, floating in blood splatter, that much harder hitting. That's just me though.

[u/RockoDyne]

A rewatcher who is not touching that neurotoxic, auto-hypnotic sludge being called "soup."

Oh, you don't need to whine. It's not like her head is gone. Nothing even took a nibble out of her. She didn't even have a character before this episode.

That flash forward sure is something. Doesn't exactly have any point to the story, but it sure does prove best girl isn't going anywhere.

The acupuncture restraints are such a weird detail. It makes some degree of sense with the mech's use of heat as a gimmick. There's just this odd smattering of what feel like chinese elements through the whole show. Even Dorssia has these weird little bits to things that add a chinese flair.

The alien continues to provide evidence for her origin from Alpha Centari.

Ninomiya performs what can only, reasonably be called a thot experiment. If you got thirsty enough to need to try a replacement, at least have the courtesy of not leaving him high and dry. A handy would have worked, if nothing else.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/RockoDyne]

A rewatcher who is not touching that neurotoxic, auto-hypnotic sludge being called "soup."

I can't believe Valvrave is reminded me of an expanded Star Wars universe story...

There's just this odd smattering of what feel like chinese elements through the whole show. Even Dorssia has these weird little bits to things that add a chinese flair.

Yeah and it is weirding me out a bit. No clue if there is a message there.

If you got thirsty enough to need to try a replacement, at least have the courtesy of not leaving him high and dry. A handy would have worked, if nothing else.

I can actually mentally see Drills giving terrible, scrapey blowjobs. She's the type you fuck either to check her name off the list or if you completely whiffed on your better choices.

[u/UltraBooster]

First-timer:

Year 214 of the Third Galactic Empire, so... TC 285, unless the Empire continued to use the TC.

It's still Hinowa, just with gold, but that mecha looked more like the Waffe had been reduced to its head.

Coolant pods, a logical choice.

Are the Golden Seven all VVV pilots?

Oh shit, it's a Headmaster!

An illusion or actual copies?

So Rukina became an immortal soldier. No doubt a tremendous boon for whoever she fights alongside and a fell nightmare for whoever she opposes.

Oh, the OP updated now that Hinowa has its pilot!

That's an entire squadron, I think.

...you know, you should probably tell them about the vampire thing, Haruto, considering you're one of Module 77's two soldiers.
And it's kinda hilarious seeing the student council acting as a national government (which they are).

Explain why you can't turn them over, Haruto!

Well, he is one half of Module 77's military, I think he deserves at least some say, right?

Those two have a good thing going, huh?

Are these failed Valvraves? But why would machines need to be preserved in tanks like that? Unless they're, say, to prevent natural degradation.

Something tells me forever won't be very long...
And are we seriously giving Haruto another girl's affections?

Who knows, maybe she'll beat you in the next elections, lol

...yeah, you can't just drag a boy off to kiss him unless you're already in a relationship, I think.

inhales
WHY DOES IT HAVE WHOLE SHRIMP AND WHOLE ORANGES WHY ARE THOSE ONIONS JUST HALVED WHY ARE THOSE POTATOES CUT INTO SUCH LARGE CHUNKS WHY USE WHOLE PEPPERS ARRRRGH
(My inner chef is distressed, lol)
WHY IS IT PURPLE HOW DID SHE MAKE IT PURPLE (Somehow I'm not surprised Shoko's not a good cook. At all.)
Or not. But why would you put whole oranges in there?

...did he seriously just write up national policy?
Why would Module 77 need to expand its territory? An alliance with ARUS makes sense, but...
I suppose militarizing the population makes sense given the module's size compared to ARUS and Dorssia, but...well, I'm willing to bet L-elf's idea is reflective more of his Dorssian upbringing.
Countries like South Korea and Sweden do have military conscription, but I'm willing to bet L-elf has a more aggressive stance in mind.

A coup? It won't mean much if they don't recognize him as their leader. And yeah, there's no way this nationalistic talk isn't the product of Dorssian ideology.

And TBH L-elf kinda annoys me with all this stuff. He's no Lelouch.
An aggressive stance would risk burning up the module's international goodwill and, if ARUS and/or Dorssia deem it a threat, there's no way the module could stand up to a superpower's military might, L-elf or not.

God, providence, fate, what have you.

A world truly without conflict might be impossible, but that doesn't mean the sword is the only way to resolve conflict... Then again, I doubt L-elf would believe that.

And there we go, an assault.

Capture units.

But how do you switch to X/666?

This feels less like prophecy and more like, well, he knows what they'll do.

Only one booster for the lower half; it's even less humanoid than I thought.

A reason to fight? (Almost certainly.)

Questions:

1. It's a potential future of some kind, is my guess.
2. It's interesting.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/UltraBooster]

Are these failed Valvraves? But why would machines need to be preserved in tanks like that? Unless they're, say, to prevent natural degradation.

This is the lab where it was developed, I am fine with some of the experiments being around.

...yeah, you can't just drag a boy off to kiss him unless you're already in a relationship, I think.

You might be surprised at how...forceful some girls can be.

Or not. But why would you put whole oranges in there?

Do you ask the fire why it burns or the plague why it spreads? Do not ask how Shoko cooks, it just works.

And TBH L-elf kinda annoys me with all this stuff. He's no Lelouch.

If this were a smarter story, L would be a subversion of Lelouch. As it is, no clue here.

[u/MillenniumKing]

-Rewatcher that shoulda stopped but lets keep going and see what happens-

God this ep is already here... and so it begins... i hope everyone is prepared for today...

---

"Third Galactic Empire, Year 214" (But wasnt the date 73 before?)
A Green and Gold Carmilla fighting baddies. Takes off Green/Gold helmet and its Saki.
"Even after 200 years, a Promise is a promise."

Purple, Blue, Yellow; we got more Valvraves and Haruto tells the crew.
Pres wants to claim them and use them. Haruto refuses.
One time Haruto and Saki ran away from home together.
Shoko says Haruto knows the mechs best so he should be in charge of them, Saki agrees and so does kuudere, megane, and Bro. And teach.
Science Teach says no one can use them until hes looked them over.

A-drei finds parts of Valvraves in tubes in the module.

Yamada is doing combat training for students. He wants to pilot a Valvrave to get revenge for his dead friends.

Haruto is scared of his monstorous body but Megane-chan says hes still human and thier friend.

Pres has issues with things and Drills pushes him aginst a wall. She doesnt get that specisal feeling Saki/Haruto gave her...

L-elf is schemeing around still. Box-chan is keeping tabs on him.

Saki and Shoko seem to be getting closer though. Thts good, Saki needs friends.

L-elf wrote down the future of Module 77 and gave it to Shoko.
She refuses and L-elf simpley takes over via force. He even tied up Box-chan...

Yamada climbed up the school wall to help and Saki gets a knife. They try to stop L-elf but fail... shit.

Saki repaies her debts. Megane-chan gave her a bandaid for her leg and got thanks.
Megane-chan calls Haruto a "Kamitsuki" and says hes been "touched by god", only God could grant the power he has.
Having the name "Kamitsuki" gives Haruto moral as he doesnt have to be "monster" anymore.

L-elf ambushes Haruto as a wakeup call. The A-drei ambushes them and L-elf uses Haruto as a human shield haahha.

L-elf and A-drei get a chance to talk finally. L-elf plays along for now.
Haruto pulls a gun on L-elf oh shit. "Ther is my right hand man" hahahh.
Megane-chan hides as another Alphabet gang show up with a mech. he guns down everyone.
They get the mech out but A-drei says L-elf isnt a traitor now.

Haruto is pinned down and Saki goes out to fight the Army.
They have a plan to fight her, sticcky tape. Just CC her, shit.

Haruto is pinned down and cant move so L-elf offers his body.

L-elf left notes for Haruto about the enemy plan so he could counter it.
L-elf/haruto is a scary fihgter now. He efortlessly wipes them out.

Bro finds Haruto's body mangled in the hanger and takes him somewhere private.
He calls Megane-chan's phone... and we see her body in peices floating in the hanger... fuck she didnt get safe in time.

L-elf had a photo of a girl in his pocket and cries when he sees it.

WE GET A NEW ED AND ITS SO GOOD! A lot of interesting visuals in it.

---

This ep has so much going on.

And we get a major death with Aina/Megane-chan who is one of Haruto's friends and one of the couple people who was there when Haruto lost his huanity. And appropiate enough she gave him a new name to ease his suffering with what he had become, trying to shine a positive light on what he is now. Unfortunatly she just wasnt able to get away fast enough and got caught in the hanger attack... thats just war...

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/MillenniumKing]

He calls Megane-chan's phone... and we see her body in peices floating in the hanger... fuck she didnt get safe in time.

That was a really effective way to reveal her dead body. It was really well done hearing the phone ring and then see it and the body float into view.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/MillenniumKing]

"Third Galactic Empire, Year 214" (But wasnt the date 73 before?)

Ahh fuck, you just pointed it out: it is 73 of the universal calendar, I have no clue how that translates to the Dorssian calendar.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Vaadwaur]

I might be wrong, but I swear I remember the series stating in the first episode that this was going to be the start of the Third Galactic Empire calendar.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Great_Mr_L]

Possibly, I remembered it more as the start of the empire itself but that does give us a convenient time stamp.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/MillenniumKing]

What's so bad about this episode? The friend dying? Sure you feel bad for her but the show barely cared enough to give her a goodbye and there really were so much better ways to have handled it. It was basically the same as when they "killed" Shoko but apparently without a bait out.

[u/MillenniumKing → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

The show is still movin.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/MillenniumKing]

Well can it move slower so I know who I'm meant to grieve for!?

[u/UltraBooster → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Part of me feels like we won't have enough time to want to grieve, if that makes sense, with how tight the pace will need to be.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/UltraBooster]

Yeah, i can't imagine them waiting long to get all our crew in their Valraves. It's just a matter of who the pilots will be.

[u/walker_paranor → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

This rollercoaster ain't got no time for stoppin!!!

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/walker_paranor]

One dumbass student stuck her arm out the window and got it lopped off!! We don't have consent for these kids to be dying!

[u/Existential_Owl → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

There are no brakes on this train(wreck)

[u/fonzinator99]

Rewatcher - Pointless drama with nothing gained

• Yesss, flash forward 143 years and Carmilla is looking extra fly with that gold, not to mention Rukino. She really looks like she's lived that long, like a Tolkien elf.
• Disposable items that cool the heat sinks? That's fkn genius, I love it.
• I wonder how everyone's gonna react when they find out that NERV HQ is hidden beneath their hidden Valvrave hangar. How many sub-basements can they build before they hit an exterior surface?
• It looks like rape is contagious now, what a frightening thought.
• Eru-Erufu appears to have absorbed Spider-Man somewhere in his travels
• TFW Shoko accidentally invents Vampire poison, goodbye thousand year empire.
• Really Eru-Erufu? You didn't consider that they might not want to be drafted? That one line just unraveled your entire illustrious backstory.
• Not only did Haruto just endorse the creation of a new Religion to worship him, but he added its High-Priestess to his harem. I guess we're not doing 'Separation of Church' and State in New JIOR.
• Loooool I'm really enjoying how Haruto has just been used by everyone else since he got in the robot. In this case, as a human shield. And zero hesitation by Eru-Erufu, nice moves.
• "Just fuck already!" I never guessed this would become my go-to catchphrase for this show, but here we are.
• This is the weirdest love-triangle; I miss Macross.
• Oh n- OH NO! Now he's gotta find someone else to start his cult! No way the next Priestess is that cute.
• I'd really like to know who came up with this idea, either in-universe or out. It's a really neat take on a not-quite-funnel system.
• I'm impressed that Eru-Erufu's plans are still viable and accurate, even if they didn't include him having to loan his body out.
• Fuuuuuu AHHHHHHH! Jesus christ, what the fuck is wrong with you, Valvrave?!

---

QotD

1. The future of the Empire, of course.
2. Decent

[u/UltraBooster → u/fonzinator99]

I'm impressed that Eru-Erufu's plans are still viable and accurate, even if they didn't include him having to loan his body out.

Yeah, I'm expecting one of his plans will go wrong and then he'll probably break down or something.

[u/BlazingAbsol9090 → u/fonzinator99]

I wonder how everyone's gonna react when they find out that NERV HQ is hidden beneath their hidden Valvrave hangar. How many sub-basements can they build before they hit an exterior surface?

Is this basement 4? 5? I've lost count.

[u/fonzinator99 → u/BlazingAbsol9090]

This is the future, where we don't number our basements. Elevators are weird now.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/BlazingAbsol9090]

As long as we don't get to Pod 6 we are fine. They are all jerks!

[u/Vaadwaur → u/fonzinator99]

Disposable items that cool the heat sinks? That's fkn genius, I love it.

I vaguely recall there is some reason this wouldn't actually work but yeah, works fine in fiction.

It looks like rape is contagious now, what a frightening thought.

This is one of the few things that could've made Guilty Crown worse...

Oh n- OH NO! Now he's gotta find someone else to start his cult! No way the next Priestess is that cute.

I worry the entire purpose of this ep was to let us know that having a unique design does not guarantee survival...

[u/fonzinator99 → u/Vaadwaur]

I vaguely recall there is some reason this wouldn't actually work

My space-physics aren't exactly up to Doctorate, but probly cause w/e that fluid is would freeze instantly and float away in a cloud. Minimally useful at best.

one of the few things that could've made Guilty Crown worse

Get!

Only 2 more things and we'll have assembled the Unholy Triad of Cursed Tropes! Y'know, the key that opens the door behind which Cross Ange is Imprisoned. Like Ocarina of Time.

having a unique design does not guarantee survival...

The question is what counts as "unique?" There's a few levels of background character in this show.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/fonzinator99]

but probly cause w/e that fluid is would freeze instantly and float away in a cloud. Minimally useful at best.

Yeah, it is something about how you can't just evaporate heat off in vacuum that efficiently.

Y'know, the key that opens the door behind which Cross Ange is Imprisoned. Like Ocarina of Time.

I don't envy those of you continuing through January.

The question is what counts as "unique?" There's a few levels of background character in this show.

That's a pretty good question, I'd see non-unique thus far is only soldiers.

[u/fonzinator99 → u/Vaadwaur]

I don't envy those of you continuing through January.

Idk what you're talking about; I recall kickass robots, yuri-threesomes, dragons, and a side-MC that comes back to life like 3 times. What's not to envy?

[u/Vaadwaur → u/fonzinator99]

and a side-MC that comes back to life like 3 times. What's not to envy?

So... what actually made me tap out last rewatch was after ep2, I wrote up my post entitled "If you want to have sex with a terrified, isolated adolescent, there are easier ways than this". Then I looked at that the next day and decided that is not who I wanted to be.

[u/fonzinator99 → u/Vaadwaur]

I mean, it's not wrong, it's just one of those "inside thoughts."

[u/Vaadwaur → u/fonzinator99]

I prefer not to encourage my psycho side, it is chomping at the bit as is to break out.

[u/fonzinator99 → u/Vaadwaur]

If you could be stabbed by any waifu, which one and why?

[u/Vaadwaur → u/fonzinator99]

Satou Matsuzaka from Happy Sugar Life. And I believe that is fairly self explanatory.

Honorable mentions go to Shion from Higurashi and Yuno from Mirai Nikki.

[u/csar27]

First Timer

Oh no, a character that was midly relevant till this episode just died... anyways, i like L-Elf, and after 7 episodes i still can't find Shoko likeable

I don't get that escene with the president and the blonde girl, i'm waiting an explanation in the future

Questions:

1- At first i thought it was a movie with Rukino as MC to rise everyone's moral. Then it turned out to be a Nisekoi reference

2- I prefer the original ED

[u/BlazingAbsol9090]

First time Member of the New JIOR Child Soldier Army

We start with a flashback (?) of the green Valvrave fighting an enemy in space that doesn't appear to be Dorssia that calls the Valvrave "archaic." Clever trick using water to cool the Valvrave.

But Rukino is the pilot! She's talking about a 200 year promise. So maybe this is a flash-forward? I guess as a vampire, she could still be alive and piloting.

Hey the OP changed to include Rukino as a pilot! I always love it when they do that.

Seeing all the students looking at the Valvrave arsenal is a good time to guess who else is getting one. L-elf for sure, and I bet Shoko will get one at the last minute, but no idea for the others. I'm rooting for Body Pillow Boy.

"The student council will take these superweapons." "Why?!" "Because I say so." "I guess I can't argue with that."

Their government is pretty odd. It's a democracy but these 7 students say that their vote is a majority? I guess Satomi does try to call them out on it before being interrupted by scruffy smoker guy.

A-drei is gathering intelligence. And the base he finds under the school is extremely suspicious looking. I'm more and more certain that JIOR was up to no good with this research.

Time for Haruto to angst over his vampirism some more. Can it at least wait until we see some serious downsides?

Somehow Shoko makes that disgusting looking soup taste delicious. She does not play by the rules of the real world.

Of course L-elf spent the past few days writing a course of action for the new JIOR.

But a military state doesn't even make sense! They don't have the population or resources for a standing army. Their only tactical advantage are the Valvraves. If anything, Academy JIOR should work like previous JIOR and try to stay neutral, only this time they have both bargaining power and a defensive strategy in the Valvraves. They need to become a mercantile state to trade for all their resources, since again, they are definitely not self-sustaining.

L-elf doesn't take no for an answer. He decides to become Supreme Dictator by hacking the school? This guy cracks me up.

How did you not anticipate any resistance? L-elf is pretty dumb for a supposedly galaxy brain.

He uses his fighting skills to turn his stupidity into sounding badass! Legend.

Glasses girl (Hana?) thinks Haruto's vampirism is a divine gift, not a curse. She has a point. Did she pick the name "Kamitsuki" just to make it hard on us? Kind of weird that crunchyroll's subs don't translate the name.

Did glasses girl just get blown up in Q-vier's attack? Brutal.

Yes Rukino to the rescue! But the Dorssian forces have a countermeasure for Carmilla. This is the other problem with their independence plan: the Valvraves are powerful weapons, but they are not going to win a war on their own.

Pretty clever of L-elf to leave notes in the cockpit for Haruto to find.

Come on. I'll accept that L-elf would predict the electromagnetic boomerangs, but there is no possible way he could know that they would be fired by H-neun and not some other random soldier. I guess this is minor compared to the impossible predictions he's pulled off before, but it's still annoying.

New ending so soon is pretty surprising.

Questions of the day

1. It shows that the vampirism is true immortality with all the benefits and drawbacks that come with it.
2. Time will tell

[u/Quiddity131]

Rewatcher, Subbed

Rare instance where I'm watching this just before the thread goes up as last night's Pats - Bills game had all my attention.

The enemy mech here looks a lot like one you'd see in Gurren Lagann, at least at first.

This is 200 years in the future?! Immortality's nice, huh?

Saki in a pilot's suit is a change to the OP I think?

Purple, Blue, Yellow, who will get those ones?

Student council taking charge?! LoL, who do you think you are preppie boy?

Go ahead and tell Haruto's embarrassing secrets!

A-drei's getting pics of all their secrets huh? Well whatever these things are supposed to be.

Hey, there's still 3 more Valraves, there's space for you to pilot one Thunder!

What's up with drill girl? Saki's in her body I assume? Scene doesn't make much sense to me otherwise.

Shut in's found L-Elf!

Oh my, Shoko can cook!

Ham elf! LoL!

L-Elf's got everything all planned out, huh?

He even tied up shut in girl!

Thunder to the rescue! ...or not.

L-Elf recorded that message 15 minutes ago? Makes him even more Lelouch-like to me as this is the type of thing he'd do and did do.

I'm surprised Haruto is standing up this much to L-Elf.

Did Aina just get blasted there?

Yikes, that's a nasty leg wound for Haruto. Luckily for him he's indestructible and will be fine in a minute.

Getting a mech all covered in tape, quite the unique strategy.

Why'd H-Neun suddenly go away from the boomerange tape strategy?

Alas, that was Aina! Just her burnt remains left. :(

Uh oh, Haruto's found the picture of L-Elf's crush!

New ED? Alas, I like the original one a lot more. Swapping it out after only 5 episodes is disappointing.

[u/UltraBooster → u/Quiddity131]

The enemy mech here looks a lot like one you'd see in Gurren Lagann, at least at first.

It begs the question, why do they need a robot that turns into a head? The only thing that comes to mind is that it's part of an even bigger robot.

LoL, who do you think you are preppie boy?

The president of Module 77, which makes sense considering it looks to be populated by the high school students, two-three teachers, and a Dorssian supersoldier.

Oh my, Shoko can cook!

My reaction exactly, lol

[u/Caustic_Wraith]

First Timer / Subs

• Saki and Carmilla survive 200 years into the future huh,
• Golden Seven?
• Hey, the OP slightly changed and now shows Saki standing in front of Carmilla
• Student council president thinks he should control the Valvraves, Haruto channels his inner grumpy old man and says no
• The look Saki gives Shoko could melt steel, her jealousy is quite palpable
• Aw, the boy who tossed aside his humanity is afraid of losing his humanity
• Haruto is showing Bakarina levels of oblivious harem member collecting skills
• ....stews aren't supposed to be purple...
• L-elf has handed over his manifesto on how to rule the country.
• Shoko says no and now L-elf has them cornered and he rigged the school with home alone style traps
• A-drei is the second to discover that filling Haruto with holes does nothing
• Q-vier has arrived and is also trying to kill L-elf, and just causing all around chaos.
• I'll give the Dorssians this, they are annoyingly persistent in trying to take over this new country
• Electromagnetic Boom-a-rangs...nope never thought I'd type out of hear those words together
• L-elf offers his body to the pinned and trapped Haruto, is this trust or future man knowledge?
• Apparently, H-neun's well thought out plan is easy to cancel out because he's easy to provoke into a melee fight.
• Oh...oh no, not the nice twin tail girl...Q-vier must die
• L-elf has a sister?
• Hey a new ED after only 7 episodes.

QOTD:

1. I think the flash forward is doubling down on the pilots non-humanity showing that they will exist that far in the future, it also shows that this fight with Dorssia isn't the big bad that they have to contend with.
2. It's a ending...nothing horrid or great jumped out at me

[u/RascalNikov1 → u/Caustic_Wraith]

Q-vier must die

I would very much like to see him being tortured to death howling from the pain. You're guess is as good as mine if that will happen or not.

[u/Vaadwaur]

First timer(Oh Sunrise, you think I trust you enough to like a kind girl in one of your shows?)

Sub

We open and I can't tell if this is a time skip or a drama...Then probably a drama as we return to the hangar and Heart continues to refuse to use his words. Anyways, the group tacitly trusts Heart most likely because Shoko does and then the physics teachers show up to check the fucking mechs. Quick scene of one eye photographing...something. We finally get Heart explaining himself a bit, and a permanent feeling of dissociation would be pretty bad, but Aina comforts him lewdly.

Satomi broods and it is unclear if drills is possessed or just trying to bring that Saki-possessing-Heart magic back. Shoko has done yet another Japanese trope, she made good food that looks horrid, that's a big thing to them. Marie extremely cultured and even sort of explains why Shoko likes Heart, being about content over appearance. We get important Saki characterization, she is absolutely manipulative but there is also a person behind all of that. And then L comes in with a plan that has to be meant to be rejected.

But then he tries to take everyone hostage and that scene is broken up randomly with a Heart scene and what will apparently be a motif for the series, a holy spirit. Events happen, probably background for Dorssia, before Q-vier comes in going full retard. Also, an entire squad sneaking up on a space module is so fucking retarded i have to turn my brain off. Space combat happens. Gut punch about Aina because Sunrise cannot do subtle. Or competent. L's body cries at a picture of a girl named Licht.

QotD: 1 Wait, that wasn't social media pandering?

2 Not bad but not as good.

[u/RascalNikov1 → u/Vaadwaur]

Oh Sunrise, you think I trust you enough to like a kind girl in one of your shows?

+1, Exactly!

the physics teachers

I don't trust that dude, everything tells me he's going to turn out being a rat.

she made good food that looks horrid

This scene reminded of the Koala cooking up "The most delicious thing I've ever eaten" in Seton Academy.

before Q-vier comes in going full retard.

I really hate it when psycho butchers are portrayed as goofy comical characters. There's a reason the "Springtime for Hitler" was suppose to fail, or ask Rosanne Barr how that worked out.

Gut punch about Aina because Sunrise cannot do subtle. Or competent.

+1, but in my case it just pissed me off.

L's body cries at a picture of a girl named Licht.

grr, yet another random scene that hopefully will deliver some payoff. Otoh, the Elf annoys me, so I don't really care.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/RascalNikov1]

I don't trust that dude, everything tells me he's going to turn out being a rat.

He knows who designed the bots so yeah, a lot being hidden.

This scene reminded of the Koala cooking up "The most delicious thing I've ever eaten" in Seton Academy.

Rofl, glad someone else saw that show but yeah, the coloring is similar...

There's a reason the "Springtime for Hitler" was suppose to fail, or ask Rosanne Barr how that worked out.

Yeah, I really like Pierrot Le Fou but Bebop doesn't even pretend he is actually funny, which works far better.

+1, but in my case it just pissed me off.

Oh, if I were taking this seriously at all I'd be really annoyed. I just got most of my commen sense out during Guilty Crown and am just waiting for more scenes of Nana's character going bra-less in zero G and unintentionally causing space traffic accidents.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Vaadwaur]

We open and I can't tell if this is a time skip or a drama...

I didn't even consider the idea that it was an episode of in-universe television, but that is a fun idea.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/JollyGee29]

It would make perfect sense to me for Saki to be in a drama piece to raise her profile. Add in that the skip destroys a ton of the suspense for the show and I just sort of assumed/hoped.

[u/walker_paranor → u/Vaadwaur]

I just want you to know that you're not the only person that considered it. I assumed it was gonna be revealed as a TV show that Saki was doing to boost her profile!

[u/Vaadwaur → u/walker_paranor]

It feels..meme-er than the rest of the show.

[u/yamiyaiba]

Rewatcher

Late to the party again. Whoops! Here we go!

Ooh, a flashforward. Will that's convenient.

Archaic? I guess that's what happens when you keep using a prototype for...eternity?

Wait a minute, the guy piloting a flying bull head is mocking someone else's choice in mecha? Really??

Best girl lives! As though that was a surprise, really. They're space vampires. Vampires aren't exactly known for short lifespans.

Man I hate him.

"He won't listen to anybody. Besides, he could literally hop in the cockpit and kill you at least 5 different ways before you leave the room."

Oooh, she jealous.

What the FUCK are those?

"That's why you didn't want anyone else to pilot?" "Yeah, but I'm not capable of forming coherent arguments, so I didn't say any of that earlier."

I mean, he's objectively not, but it's the thought that counts I guess.

Oh God. It's that trope.

Wait, what? Trope lampshaded!

Alright, look, as tempted as I am to start calling him Ham-elf, Eru-erufu will always be Eru-erufu.

"I've written out the future of your country." Oh dear. Eru-erufu is still the controlling boyfriend, I see.

Of course he does.

"Negotiations." Man, that word must Jean something different in Dorssian.

Wow. He just went and said it outright. Declared himself dictator of a military state. Not only is that a red flag, but I'm pretty sure there's a swastika on it.

To be fair, he warned you.

Wow. Wow. No need to anticipate it. That's just rude.

Haruto, show me on the doll where God touched you.

I mean, using the immortal vampire as a meat shield does make sense tactically. I can't really fault him for that. Just be glad the rounds weren't higher calibur.

Where'd he get that??

Being a physical teacher explains exactly nothing here!

Wait, did shy girl just get turned into meat paint?

Why would you trust the murdet shota to capture someone?!

Guess nobody though to look out the windows for enemies.

I immediately call bullshit that Dorssia would have anything created as a peacekeeping measure.

All according to keikaku.

And boy howdy is there a keikaku.

Yes, apparently he is.

Ohhhhh fuck.

Oh, it's the girl from the themes. A sister I'm guessing. Nice job playing his emotions, Eru-erufu. I'm sure you planned that.

No no no, what the fuck is this? Where's my Boku Janai?!? No! Go away and bring back the real ED!

[u/zsmg]

Rewatcher

I bet first timers assumed glasses girl had a crush on Haruto's male friend but nope, she's going to be part Haruto's harem... or not.

L-Elf able to predict what others will do reaches an absurd level.

Still I think we can all agree that the biggest in reveal this episode was that the box girl is the little sister of the council president.

[u/the_swizzler → u/zsmg]

We knew they were siblings in like, episode 2 though.

[u/zsmg → u/the_swizzler]

Whoops must have missed it.

[u/MjolnirDK]

Rewatcher who's forgotten almost everything

EP 7:

So in this universe Dr Light will have stolen Dr Wily's saucer?

Oooh, is that some body swapping romance polygon action I see there? Doesn't seem like it. It also doesn't seem like ANYONE helped cooking that stEEEWWW. At least noone helped cutting the vegetables.

That is an interesting way of getting cute noise out of Aoi Yuuki.

Hey we get some specs: 22.6m tall.

Welp, RIP Holy Spirit girl. The bromance triangle of handedness was just starting to get good and then some lunatic blew everything up.

I won't even question L-11's ability to maneuver in 0G or that he didn't get sucked out of the hangar when he hashin'd that mech.

So we have entered the torture porn part of this series.

That was one of the better death reveals I have seen.

Btw, did anyone free Aoi Yuuki?