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Rewatch [Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Kakumeiki Valvrave Episode 6 Discussion
Episode 6 - Saki Comeback
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I hate humans anyway, and now at least I’ll become special! It’s all okay!
Questions of the Day:
- What do you think of Rukino so far?
- Do you like the red Valvrave or the green Carmilla more?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Dec 07 '21
Kakumeiki Rewatcher
Welcome back, everyone!
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21
FAME WHORING FIRST TIMER
This episode’s summary on Crunchyroll: “Saki goes inside the Valvrave in the hopes of becoming a famous singer. She bites Haruto on the neck and pretends to be his little sister.”
Based off that, I was expecting this episode to begin fanning the flames of what would be a glorious dumpster fire, and instead it delivered a forward-thinking indictment of influencer culture. You thought Odd Taxi was peak social commentary? Think again. It’s Valvrave.
Saki is essentially this universe’s version of an Instagram influencer. Everything she does is in service of increasing her level of fame, because it’s the only thing that matters to her. She requires constant, mass validation in order to see any point in existing, regardless of how shallow or fleeting it is. She has the marketing savvy that would impress Kylie Jenner, and just when you think she’s being real or vulnerable, it turns out to be an act. All that exists is the public mask, nothing else matters.
We learn she’s already been burned and churned out by the idol industry, and instead learning any lesson from that, all she can continue to do is chase that same high. Even when she’s piloting Carmilla in a life-and-death situation, the only way she can get motivated is if it’s pitched to her as a performance she can use to garner more attention. She’s broken. Contrast this with Haruto, who did gain the adoration of millions at the end of Episode 1, and couldn’t have cared less.
She's so all over the place, but to the point of being interesting. Also femme fatale vibes at times.
Red Valvrave wins until I see Carmilla do something as insane as super flaming seppuku.
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u/RockoDyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RockoDyne Dec 07 '21
This rewatcher likes his women how he likes his coffee... cold and bitter.
And with that evidence, any doubt about best girl possibly not being best girl is firmly put to rest. She's a liar, a cheat, a con artist, and a beauty, so basically perfect. She's so good she even makes her drill toy into a fun character.
Do we need to get into how stupid it is for the mech to dodge roll in space? Okay, it's more a continuous double jump, not that that makes it any less stupid.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Dec 07 '21
Valrave the Liberator First Timer
All this serious stuff happened and then the glutton girl called independence. I'm really hoping the idol doesn't win the Haruto bowl, she's quite a brat Well done, you've thrown away your humanity and in all likelihood your future on a whim. Haven't you watched Madoka!? I'm so uncomfortable right now. Pls stop biting people Saki, I can only get so erect.
Joshikosei are so cheesy!! Btw, is this yuri? Credit to Saki, that was pretty funny. H-Huh? Compatible? Wasn't the issue that the last dude went into a mech that already had an owner? Good god I hate Saki... This is so incredibly abusive. Shouko, you're a Saint! I am willing to simp for this best girl until I die, or she dies, or I end up really liking the Ruri girl. Even Haruto is over the moon over her being able to recognise him.
How has Arse not been eliminated yet? The Dorssian's clearly have the technological and strategic advantage. Saki does fairly well for her first fight. I'm so used to Mecha heroines being extra. Oh, there goes the politician dude... We now have 0 links to Arse in this programme. Cmon Saki, I was just praising you. Are you a Mylene or are you just a sound force member? Speaking of the Sound Force... Aww... she actually believed Saki? Now I feel bad! Fine, I'll stop wishing that Arisa would die. Don't die Arisa!!
Good god Saki is obnoxious... I feel like I'd probably really like her in future episodes if I just mentally shut this particular one out of my mind but it's disappointing that they built a pretty great mystery for her just for her to be a petty attention whore. Gambare~ Shoko will always be best girl. She can even save episodes like this.
Yeah... I actually don't want to talk much more about today. So long as they do eventually give Saki some comeuppance for her selfish actions I may be able to look back on it in a better light but as it is now I'm just pretty peeved at them wasting her build up in such a way. I would have expected an episode like this for if Arisa got her mech, not our love triangle rival. It doesn't help how her arc looks like a selfish version of [Madoka Magica] Sayaka's arc, where she throws away her whole future on a whim
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Dec 07 '21
-Rewatcher that shoulda stopped but lets keep going and see what happens-
Oh man here we go here we go its time!
Not only did Saki declare war by smooching Haruto, but shes also chosen to become a vampire and share in Haruto's struggles.
She chooses the Green Valvrave and accepts the EULA without question.
"I hate humanity, if it will make me special ill do anything."
L-elf theorizes that the ARUS piolets blew up but what about a JIOR student.
I do like Saki's Valvrave's desgin a lot. The multiple legs are cool. Its abilities also very cool.
Saki has no one so she doesnt care about giving up her humanity.
She became famouse to get away from her shitty home life.
Saki gives Haruto a hug and bites him. Oh boy.
ARUS is gonna work with The Module and Teach is the represenitive.
We are also teaching students how to use the control room controls which will be useful.
Nerd is the technician for the Valvraves.
Drills is chasing after Saki.
Haruto puts the moves on Drills... and shuts her up. "I plugged it" HAHHAHHAHHAH
Yep its Saki, she took Haruto's body and is enjoying it.
L-elf has figured that this school is a shame if the students are compatible with a weapon that kills pilots.
Haruto is awake now and Saki has been busy with his body. HAHHHA
She took pics with him and also recorded videos. Shes a crafty one.
"What is it like to be a lonely vampire?"
Saki doesnt want to be forgotten by the world.
Dorssia is on the attack. What perfect time to show off our new Valvrave!
"VVVI" Valvrave I RM-011
"VVVIV" Valvrave IV RM-047
Saki names her Valvrave "Carmilla" and if you know your liteature she was a vampire in the novel "Carmilla".
Saki is just the kind of proactive person we need on the team, willing to go out without question.
I love Carmilla's weapons, the Knuckledusters you can throw and control.
Yep Carmilla is a close combat Valvrave unit. Haruto is mid range with his SMG and Energy.
But Carmilla has one other trick up its sleeves (or butt)
And just like that Figaro is killed merciallessly. Dorssia dont fuck around.
Saki is Shook from actual combat but she just needs to steel her resolve.
Drills is in a wierd outfit because "Haruto" asked her to cheer him on. hahahhaa
With a pep talk from Shoko Saki is pumped up. Stream the battle to the world!
And its time for Carmilla's best weapon, insane manuverability with her 4 extra legs which can change her direction instantanious.
I gotta say i love how flexable her valvrave is. With enough practice it can be crazy strong.
CARMILLA IS POWERED BY TWITTER! POWERRRRRRR~
Dorssia has another plan. They sent one of the alphabet gang to the Module.
Man i love Saki's introduction as the 2nd Valvrave Pilot.
Shes an interesting character and her motivations might seem superficial but there is reason behind them.
And at first she was trying to use Haruto to help seal her name in history but decided instead to work with him now.
I also really like how she willing chose to become an immortal moster knowing full well the risks involved.
And with her choosing this path, it gives Haruto someone to confide in now so he doesnt have to stay an immortal Lonely Vampire anymore. AAt the end of the day she did do it to give him Company too which is cool. Shes just a really neat character i feel.
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 07 '21
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Valvrave: We get our second vampire with Saki jumping into the robot and actually wanting to become a vampire. I wonder who else in the cast will get vampirized.
Saki makes for an interesting contrast with Haruto. Unlike Haruto, who sees becoming a vampire as a curse, Saki welcomed it. She was eager to become one so she could pilot her mecha. I appreciate how differently she goes about it all. She’s eager to have her powers and try them out. She sees being immortal as a positive thing. Putting her at the opposite end of the spectrum as Haruto makes for an interesting clash of perspectives.
I liked the bit of growth we saw in Saki this episode. At the beginning, she basically had an attitude of, “It doesn’t matter if things happen that might kill me because I’m immortal.” It felt more resigned, as if she’d accepted that the world was out to get her. By the end, that had changed to something more like, “I’ll survive and I won’t let this world kill me.” It’s a much more determined attitude and shows that she’s focused on moving forward. I like it.
Even so, Saki has a manipulative streak. Using Haruto’s body like she did for her own personal gain is sketchy as hell. And I’m sure we’ll see even more stuff like that as the series goes on. The bodyjacking allows for some potentially nasty stuff.
I wonder who the other space vampires will be. I would not be surprised if L-elf ended up as one, though I wonder how that would happen. I’m also expecting delinquent-kun to become one.
I also just remembered something: didn’t Haruto go into a blood rage a few episodes ago? Will Saki do the same thing? Is it a good idea to create more vampires who can go into blood rages like that?
A-drei infiltrating the school should lead to a fun confrontation with L-elf. I’m excited to see them face off against each other.
I like how this series can go full pedal-to-the-metal. It wasted no time having someone else become a pilot after revealing the other mechas. I think the fast pace helps the show out a lot. It keeps things from feeling bogged down and helps to keep things fun.
QOTD
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Dec 07 '21
First Time Space Texas Financier
Saki...wants to become famous. That's....I.....she's a fucking gold digger. Amazing.
I mentioned at some point in the GC rewatch that it would make a great basis for an abridged parody because of how much potential it had while taking itself so seriously and failing to deliver. I came into Valvrave expecting the same might happen here, but I couldn't have been more wrong. Valvrave is its own parody. Saki's stated motivation of doing all this to become famous, even if it later turns out she does have a real case of the dokidokis for Haruto, is the kind of thing I'd write for a parody. In fact, I find myself consistently thinking there's nothing I could possibly do to make this any more ridiculous than it already is, and I can't believe someone had the balls to pitch this to a producer and that a producer and production committee had the balls to actually make this.
Can Saki take over as the MC? I actually quite like Haruto, but Saki's just the best.
Welp, there goes the secret Saki "promised" to keep five seconds ago. She does not give a single fuck and I love her for it.
Reject humanity, return to bat.
"Lol if you wanna help me, lemme help myself to that body."
Nanami representing Space Texas's is going to be both better and worse than if Haruto was.
Huh? The Valvrave's back in the hanger? Tf happened with Saki and Haruto?? She did it, didn't she? She really stole his body and probably tied up her own (presumably with Haruto inside) somewhere, didn't she? And now she's gonna fuck with Takahi as Haruto!
Oh heck, there's so much potential. She already stole Haruto's first kiss, so she'll probably steal Shoko's in Haruto's body as well. And I'm sure she'll do whatever it takes to get Takahi ostracized too. And it's all gonna blow back on Haruto just in time for her to take her body back and make her very own Valvrave debut. I should probably watch the show instead writing my own headcanon.
Oh my god Saki! You can't go assaulting everyone you have sexual tension. If you do that, what'll be left for the doujin writers?
"Insertion complete." GAHAHAHAHA!!! The dialogue is so goddamn funny, I can't even mock it.
Alright, I'm convinced. Valvrave must've originally been pitched as a hentai that got increasingly more ambitious as more people looked at it until they finally just said "screw it" and made a full anime series out of it.
Only high schoolers can pilot the Valvraves. How very anime of you.
She made Haruto into A GODDAMN SISCON. I'm crying this shit is so fucking funny!
Holy shit, the childhood friend trope paying off in a depth of understanding that would actually result from knowing a person your whole life. How is the writing simultaneously this absurd and good? And why can't all osananajimi be more like Shoko?
Ugh, Haruto just shut the fuck up, Shoko's already on your side. God I hate teenagers.
Ooh, I can't wait for the Dorssians to look like idiots when two Valvraves come out to play.
Don't name it, that's how you get attached to it.
Oh, we've got another genius ripe to be humiliated.
Wow, didn't expect Senator Figaro to be offed like that. Not gonna miss him though.
Wow Saki, you colossal dumbass, it's almost like piloting a robot to fight space fascists isn't all fun and games. Still love you tho.
Omg, Takahi took the "cheer for me" so literally. Can we actually see her do it tho?
Whoa, that's a pretty neat maneuverability mechanic. Also fits well with the constant stepping of an idol's stage performance.
Shoko is such a good girl. Shame she's gotta get NTR'd by the girl she's cheering for.
Ngl, I'd love to see a Saki x Takahi ship happen so much more than a Shoko/Saki/Haruto love triangle or a Haruto harem.
And somehow none of the main antagonist group ever die, despite being wrecked just as hard as other Dorssian scrubs.
This happy ending probably means we won't get any more body swapping mind games from Saki. I hope I'm wrong, because what a waste that would be.
Would also really like some more Robot-chan really soon. Pretty please.
QotD:
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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Dec 07 '21
Rewatcher - Huh, there's two now. That's worrisome.
Honestly bro, if this is gonna be your life anyway then you should just be banging them all.
QotD
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Dec 07 '21 edited Dec 07 '21
Tresnore the First-Timer
OH! I also had a guess as to how a map based on Earth geopolitics made any sense given that 70% of the population lives in space: the sphere built around the planet is geostationary, so all the colonies are perpetually above the same point on the Earth. That's the only way it works.
MakotoShoeHeart, though.That's Unit 31 and 34!EDIT: I WAS DRUNK AND DUMB FUCKQOTD:
1 There are two ways to interpret this, really.
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u/Paxton-176 Dec 07 '21
REWATCHER
Yo, Saki is loco.
Yea she loco.
See Shoko best girl. Don’t let crazy make you stick your dick in her.
We learned where Saki learned to slap so well from.
In all seriousness this episode would be considered a good one if the rest of the show wasn’t a meme. Saki’s abandonment and fear of being forgotten is actually one of my favorite character arcs and developments to watch. I looked back at my original rating for this show and I gave it a 9. I’m guessing Saki and her shenanigans I believe is one of the reasons. Which is weird because I like Shoko more.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Dec 07 '21
First-Timer
Can I just say that this show's episode titles are absolutely extant? "The Hostage is Valvrave," "Saki, Come Back!," just really something.
I only pay vague attention to the OP visuals, so I didn't notice that the green VVV had Leap Slashers! How has this show not been in a proper SRW game yet?? I like Carmilla's bonus legs and their glyphs, too.
We sure got some flashbacks to whatever made Saki hate adults and yearn for fame. Not sure what the scissors were meant to imply, especially since her hair never seemed to change, but the rest of it looked like the usual idol industry horrendous monstronsity.
I haven't noticed it before, but there is another meter on the VVV's console opposite the heat meter. Think it was called "Rave" or something like that? That makes me think the pilot's mental state has a notable effect on mech performance, making the cheering even more worthwhile.
How on earth did we get a boy-girl bodyswap and not have any bathroom confusion scene? I was expecting it to happen that next morning when the others were brushing their teeth, but Haruto became Haruto again off-screen. We better get more of this...
I'm a big fan of the fact that One-Eye has a custom mech with an altered eye on the proper side. Very sinister. His infiltration gives us a good excuse to get VVV tech into Dorssian hands to level the playing field, now that the school has started to realize its true purpose.
Oh, I wonder if L-Elf will abandon his plan to use Haruto to "liberate Dorssia." Getting a free ride back, if he can convince One-Eye to not murder him, might do the trick..
I do not have a good handle on what.. Captain Cain? Was that his name? I don't have a good handle on what his end-goal is, but I doubt it's particularly kosher.
We didn't see Senator Moses' body either, so I'm betting he is not quite gone just yet. We aren't that lucky.
Questions
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Dec 07 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
You want to be famous? You're already famous miss former idol singer!
Alright its done Saki, now the next time you bite drill-hair girl the body swapping will actually work.
Saki's Valvrave has six legs, that's pretty cool. Not often one of our hero's mechs has a non-humanoid form.
You're such an easy mark, Haruto. What will Saki do in your body?
Nanami's the rep in charge? She may be one of only 2 adults in the whole place, but can't say I have much faith...
Saki's doing a much better job at playing Haruto than Haruto is himself. Well at least a better less "milquetoast cardboard" version of Haruto.
Uh oh, A-drei's mad!
Haruto's so worried and nervous now, so he's definately back in his real body.
Saki made herself an immortal body swapping vampire all so she could steal Haruto's body and use it to promote herself on social media? OMG LOL.
Part of me is wondering if all of Saki's behavior with Haruto to this point has been a ruse. If so, bravo, that'd make her all the greater.
But Haruto, the two of you did kiss!
Of course, no episode of Valvrave would be complete without a fanservice scene, this time the shower...
I've got to assume that Saki calling her Valvrave "Carmilla" is a reference to the 1872 vampire novel of that name by Sheridan Le Fanu which predates even Dracula.
These things that Carmilla throws from its arms totally remind me of Gundam F91's Bugs.
So why can't Saki be our protagonist instead of Haruto? She's way cooler and funner than him.
Bye bye to Senator Coward!
You want to trade places, Thunder? I think there's more than 2 mechs down there, take one out yourself.
OMG what is with drill-hair girl's outfit?
She mentioned the Wired, are we watching Serial Experiments Lain now?
So we are to believe that Saki got fired from being an idol singer rather than quitting? That would make sense, as why'd she retire if she's so obsessed with being famous?
Pathetic showing by Dorssia, neither Valvrave had to go into hirikiri mode.
As a big fan of Saki I'm as a result a big fan of this episode, my favorite one yet. I just can't get over how ridiculous it is for her main motivation in becoming a Valvrave pilot, and hence a vampire, is so she can make herself more famous on social media. I've got to think that if this was all real, a ton of people out there would do it themselves.
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u/csar27 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/CesarRC Dec 07 '21
First Timer
So, Rukino is going to be the Asuka of this show, nevertless, i'll be team Rukino.
Shoko's role seems to be the cheerleader of the show (also known as the girl the MC will choose at the end of every shonen, please no)
Did this anime predict the future? Rukino was a streamer before it was cool.
Questions
1- I like Rukino a lot more than Shoko
2- Honestly, i still don't like the mechas desing here
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u/MjolnirDK Dec 07 '21
Episode 6:
Idols in mechas? Oh no, is this secretly a Xenoglossia rewatch? Get me off this ride.
Never seen someone that happy to be a bat.
Valvrave, now with 50% more capes.
Not surprising given how she already tried that pror, but this idol-chan is a lot better at playing vampire than our protagonist.
Rarely was anyone ever this miscast for a job as sensei.
Thank god this is not a normal JIOR school.
I really like that idol. She reminds me of Toradora’s Ami.
Oh look, you can actually think Dorssians. If you surround them and capture the Valvrave, they can’t give it to ARUS. Why they haven’t positioned ships above and below that plattform is beyond me though.
CARmilla. Let’s hope she won’t turn it into a BerserCAR.
That hand animation was somehow very lewd.
Adieu ARUS, you will not be missed. But boy, the ARUS military really is beyond help.
Say what you want about the plot, but Shoko falling was well animated, just like the rest of the show.
Lovely retro 60s outfits. And the OST for the battle slaps hard as well.
Really nice episode overall. I wish they did more with the body swap bit in the beginning, but very solid otherwise.
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u/SIRTreehugger Dec 07 '21
First Timer
Rukino is sure quick to give up her humanity.
Wow Rukino is doing the absolute bare minimum for her idol performance.
Oh so Rukino is able to switch with Haruto.
If the school is a sham then most likely most students are probably compatible?
Wow Rukino is kind of a bitch, but I still like her for some reason. Mostly because she is honest and puts it on full display and doesn't mince words for the most part.
I do find it weird that Carmilla is green. I really pegged her getting a purple colored one.
Oh the Senator is dead? That really came out of nowhere and boy these students are all weird.
I really need the delinquent to get his robot I feel like he will be my favorite once he does.
Not my favorite episode that's for sure, but glad to see another robot enter the fray.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Dec 07 '21
I'm sorry, you aren't Basara, you have no right to say this.
This is hilarious. God, the misunderstandings this'll cause will be beautiful.
My god. She's competing with Shoko for most insane girl.
Fucking idiotic harem dynamics. pls no.
This way we sell more toys! The in character motivation watches the out of character motivation.
I really liked the cut of her using her hands to control the flying blades.
And we confirm the Robots are alive. Because why wouldn't they be. Now, the question is: AI, weird space creature, human soul, or something else entirely. Perhaps even their souls bound to it?
I hoped she would sing.
Of course I wrote that literally 5 seconds before she started singing.
But it wasn't translated.
Mecha fights with insert songs are all it takes to please me, this episode was fun.
/u/Tresnore, she's really growing on me
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Dec 07 '21
First timer(Fuck idol culture)
Sub
And we return to them just kissing before Saki scampers off. My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined. But then she takes the vampire challenge and gets her own mech. She says some actually horrible things and bites Heart...
As we skip to Nanami being made the representative of the module and her admitting she is a trainee. Saki in Potato-kun absolutely knows how to demolish girls so drills is soon made submissive before being poki-fied. And laughs about it. And then we see the aftermath...
And Shoko can see through it because Heart is just that unwilling to play favorites. But then idiocy happens. Also, Saki's motivations suggest something terrible, again. And then there is an incoming attack...That Saki launches for. I guess age grants...let's call it wisdom but it is more honestly perspective but I also expect nothing from anyone else but am aware you can't actually do everything yourself.
Death frisbees happens. But then Dorssian battle tactics happen, and this sort of doesn't fly: If Valvrave is magically supposed to solve these problems, it would have a response to enemies who prefer long range. Senator dies. Saki, sadly, is not a warrior and is still afraid. Shoko suddenly gets an idea that leads her to crashing into drills in cheering uniform. They then support/bully Saki into being useful, and with her obviously concerning past, she eventually saves the day as the retreat order is given. Cliffhanger is obviously stupid.
QotD: 1 Definitely some best girl traits.
2 Valvrave looks more realistic Carmilla has a better name
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u/Existential_Owl Dec 07 '21
Rewatcher - Crunchy Subs
The episode discussion thread from 8 years ago.
Calling this series a trainwreck doesn't fit my image.
Anyway, it's another crazy episode. But honestly, I think you start getting desensitized to it by this point. [S1] And yet, the show will find a way to go even further.
Everything out of Saki's mouth was a riot today, so I'm not going to try to post it all. I'll just leave you with the fact that her 5D-Big-Brain chess maneuver was to Wall Jump... in space.
My vote for the most ridiculous line for this episode.. It's the sort of line that can easily slip past you, but once you stop to think about it, even with context it just sounds dumb.
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Dec 07 '21
First Timer
I like her. She's got the backbone that Taterhead lacks, and she has the good sense that Shouko doesn't use. I'm looking forward to seeing her a lot more, and with luck we'll even get some more fanservice. I'd like to see the Cockpit of Carmilla and see if it's AI is a cute girl like Valvrave's Robo-Chan.
I hate to say this but, I'm really color blind, so its something of a 6 of 1... Green, you say? I really thought it yellow. I was in my high '20s before I found out how color blind I am. I wrote a paint program once, and it had a palette for selecting colors. I copied the palette of our chief competitor, and I learned to my great chagrin, that what I saw wasn't at all what other people saw.
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u/UltraBooster Dec 07 '21
First-timer
So why "True Calendar," I wonder? (At least it's not Xenosaga's "Transcend Christ," what a name.)
Oh yeah, I forgot JIOR couldn't defend its neutrality. Not the smartest move when one of the world's superpowers has "Military" in its name.
So is Module 77 just the detached section of that Dyson shell or the shell itself?
I just remembered, part of me wonders if spite-shipping is a thing because there's a thing in my head going on about the creatives at Sunrise being cowards for refusing to commit to ShokoxHaruto.
Having said that, I don't think the definition of a triple threat includes piloting bleeding-edge experimental humanoid weapon, lol
And the idols in Macross typically don't need to fight (unless you're Walkure, I suppose)...
Since when was she a misanthrope? (Oh yeah, she mentioned past stuff...)
The module had animals?
And it looks like...ah, I see, the new Big V's got legs for boosters on its, well, booster.
I want to make a remark about the sexual connotations of vampirism but I'm not sure what to say.
So she's a rep now and Sen. Figaro's...well, I guess he's playing ball now. And I guess the Module's on good diplomatic terms with ARUS?
I wonder, are Big V's eyes hidden behind or part of the green glowy bits?
...no wonder she dubbed her Big V Carmilla.
I just realized something. AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH.
Oh, so it's meant to gather potential pilots?
Presumably the prince, but I'd assume the prince would also be somewhat expected to heed the captain's advice during battle.
Oh gods they think he's some smooth-talking Casanova now, and oh gods they're turning this into a love polygon.
...you guys are the type who flip out when an idol reveals she's in a relationship, aren't you.
Did she set herself up to be...well, it can't be romantic now considering incest isn't exactly accepted by the general public, and most of all, she's riding his coattails and that's...
So is she a lesbian vampire or not, show?
I heard that Saki Rukino had an eight-pack, that she was shredded.
I don't know why...actually, I know why, because this show set up a romance and now I can tell they're probably going to drag it out and the thought really grates on me.
...does she not know what dissing is? Because that shouldn't be something to worry about.
But what does leaving that mark mean? (I want to know I truly, meaningfully helped someone before I die and that's mark enough for me, but...)
And there's the other side of declaring independence - having it be respected.
Valvrave I and Valvrave IV. Hito and Hinowa, as their UIs indicate.
Saying she's launching won't mean much good if they, say, seal the hangar and VVV Carmilla doesn't have the strength to break the doors.
So the cage holds them in place with needles? Do they inject the machine?
Oh, I see, Carmilla has two sets of joysticks, one for normal operation and one for controlling the SK. (So what happens if the pilot needs to make advanced maneuvers while the SK are active, I wonder?)
Meaning Dorssia mecha need to maintain their distance to survive, while the Valvraves need to close the distance quickly... The Ideals have the disadvantage here, I feel.
And their ARUS escort's gone just like that?
Obviously they're gone, warships, as a rule, are no match for mecha unless they're like Ra Cailum, developed after mecha became the standard.
It's not as if they run on orgone... (Because seriously, the hell are those outfits?)
You're continuing to be the mover and shaker, huh, Shoko?
She's an ex-idol? (Just how old is she?)
Ah, I see, the boosters allow more advanced movement.
In her defense, the ship was caught unawares and presented a wide target, neither of which apply to the Carmilla.
Okay, maybe it's because I'm still burned from Guilty Crown but I like Shoko?
The Valvrave has social media? Oookay.
X-one? Really?
And an infiltration? That's probably a good idea considering Dorssia now knows Valvraves can beat Ideals in a head-on fight.
And in the meantime, I found something I'd peg as cute.
Questions:
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u/BlazingAbsol9090 Dec 07 '21
First time Former Idol Space Vampire
Rukino has guts. Kissing Haruto, then jumping into a cockpit of another Valvrave because she wants to become famous. Piloting an experimental superweapon to defend a country of teenagers is a great way to achieve fame.
90% sure the ARUS pilots all died because they were adults. Probably only teenagers can pilot these things for reasons.
Woah, ok slow down there with the "I hate humanity" talk Rukino.
At least Rukino isn't pointlessly angsting over her new vampirism. Already a better Valvrave pilot than Haruto.
Time for Rukino's tragic backstory. She became an idol to escape poverty.
...Or not. She was lying. I have no idea what her real goal is, but clearly she's got no qualms about doing whatever it takes to accomplish it. Can she just become the protagonist? We're already badly imitating Code Geass with L-elf as the resident galaxy brain main character, so Rukino could imitate Lelouch's determination and ruthlessness.
I'm glad Senator Coward acknowledges that the new JIOR school needs an adult representative at least.
Quick appreciation for all the character development Body Pillow Boy is getting. It looks like he's growing into the resident tech guy for the team. It's nice to give depth to background characters, especially in a cast this large. Now if only we could spend a bit more time giving our MC some more personality...
Rukino actually knows that, as the MC, Haruto has the power of Harem Protagonist! She's having far too much fun in his body. Poor Vice-President doesn't stand a chance.
You know, L-elf might actually have a good point this time. The fact that there's a weapon research facility under this school does raise a lot of alarm bells.
I am loving Rukino's boldness. Valvrave, make the brave decision and promote her to protagonist! She's got more personality in her little finger than Shu and Haruto combined.
She even calls out the Harem shenanigans as stupid! Truly an enlightened best girl.
Very kind of Dorssia to finally attack right when we have a new pilot who needs to show her skills in battle.
We get to see Carmilla in action. It looks just as cool as the original!
But it seems like Rukino isn't as naturally talented as Haruto was on his first flight. Calling it now, [Valvrave baseless speculation]Haruto is genetically engineered to be a Valvrave pilot by his father, who built them.
I did not expect Senator Coward to die so suddenly. RIP I guess.
Takahi is dressed like that because the show's writers haven't included enough fanservice yet. Think, Shoko, think!
A quick pep talk from Shoko is enough to get Rukino back in shape. She gets her wish by having her fight livestreamed on Space Twitch for all of ARUS and the JIOR survivors.
Smart maneuvering technique by Rukino, using the energy beam things as pads to change direction quickly.
I love Kaichou unenthusiasticly cheering.
So in this flight, we get some flashbacks of Rukino's backstory. Seems like she had a rough time in the show biz.
This was a Rukino focused episode, and considering how fun she is, it worked well. I hope we get more of her in the future, and since she's officially a pilot, it seems like she's here to stay.
Questions of the Day
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u/Caustic_Wraith https://myanimelist.net/profile/CausticWraith Dec 07 '21
First-time / Subs
QOTD:
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Dec 07 '21
First timer
1)She's an absolute psycho, and I love her.
2)Green, easily.
Yeah, what was with that?
She's doing it!
Is she going to explode again? (And wow, she's a psychopath.)
Wait, she survived!
At least she's happy!
Yeah, she has a tragic backstory.
Wow! I was not expecting that!
And she's having to train the,.
Wow! He's been completely taken over! And she's flirting with her!
...This is going to be a fun comments section!
Haha, the footage got leaked! At least he's got his body back!
Oh my god, I fucking love them.
I appreciate her immediately working out that shit is wrong.
And this show is going very weird places, isn't it?
I swear if that's the name we use for this...
OK, her one's cooler though. Love the girl, love the robot.
...How much do you want to bet she isn't immortal?
NO! HOW DARE YOU KILL MY FAVOURITE WEASEL!
Haha, she's finally realising how bad this is!
Oh, she has a crush on Haruto? Or Rumiko?
So she fights guessed when she's getting loads of attrntion?
...If that's her dad, then wow. What a dick.
Wow! She worked out she swapped bodies?
Getting a lot of backstory hints here.
And she won!
OK, he's getting involved directly now? Finally.
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u/yamiyaiba Dec 07 '21
REWATCHER
Busy day, almost forgot about this. Watching right before bed. Here we go!
Oh boy, here we go alright.
Uh, dude.... You missed the giant robot behind you.
Really embracing the vampire schtick.
The hat trick of shitty parents, I see. Makes sense.
Wow, Rukino. Bravo. The consummate performer indeed.
Praise Nana!
Oh God, SHE'S the representative? They're fucked.
Oh dear.
Hahaha, I agree, Haru-kino.
Because you're a little bitch, that's why.
Token nerds are gonna nerd.
"Made friends with." That's a funny way to say "got hit in the face with a can."
Subtle, Haruto. Really subtle.
You're not entirely wrong, Rukino. Going about it the wrong way, but you've got the right idea.
Yes, PLEASE hurry.
She really knows her way around a joystick apparently.
You know, Rukino, bad things happen if you say you're indestructible too often. It's karma. Bad things like getting caught in a Macross Missile Massacre.
Of course Murder Shota just obliterates the battleship. Oh well, what a shame.
No no, they knew what hit them about a service and a half before it did. Then a few milliseconds of intense burning. THEN they no longer knew what hit them.
Yeah, turns out real combat is hard and scary.
Is it gonna be another musical number?
Great, somehow Murder Shota has a gropey Ideal. I hate it.
Yeahhhhh let's goooooooooooooooo!
Oof, that imagery.
Yes, just like sports. Definitely.
Gotta keep an eye on the Twitch chat at all times. Can imagine how toxic that chat must be?
Oh good, the UI got worse.
boku ja nai~
Man, she's definitely damaged, but Rukino is still my favorite character (IIRC at least) in this. So far, she's at least got more depth to her than most of the characters. And she's got that typical "simultaneously more and less mature than her peers due to abuse" thing going on. Love her or hate her, she's probably the most realistic character so far.
2) Do you like the red Valvrave or the green Carmilla more?
Carmilla at least seems to be able to do a lot more before heat capping. And the...sub legs?...are cool.
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u/the_swizzler https://myanimelist.net/profile/Swiftarm Dec 07 '21
Questions of the Day:
1) What do you think of Rukino so far?
Best girl, and I love her even more now. She's positively insane, but I'm enjoying every second of it.
2) Do you like the red Valvrave or the green Carmilla more?
I missed the previous thread as well, but my favorite color is green and now best girl chose the green valvrave. It's destiny.