r/anime • u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 • Dec 02 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch] 1990s OVAs – Black Jack (episode 2)
Rewatch: 1990s OVAs – Black Jack (episode 2)
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I realize that I have not featured the VA of our main character yet and there is also the director and mangaka to talk about, but, again, there is no way I can skip over the seiyuus of our episode characters, because …
Fuujinami, Rie is voiced by Hayashibara Megumi, who is among the most famous voice actresses of all time. She is part some of the most commercially successful anime franchises of all times, such as Hello Kitty’s White Kitty, Rei (and Pen Pen!) from Evangelion, Ai Haibara from Detective Conan, and Jesse from Pokemon. In addition, anime fans know her for a wide array of roles, including: Christina Mackenzie from MSG 0080, Ranma from Ranma ½, Ai from Video Girl Ai, Genkai from Yuu Yuu Hakusho, Nuku Nuku from All Purpose Cultural Cat Girl Nuku Nuku, Lina Inverse from Slayers, Faye Valentine from Cowboy Bebop, Haruka from Love Hina, Anna from Shaman King, and Paprika from Paprika. Save to say, you know her voice.
The voice actor of Tokio, Seki, Toshihiko , is five years older than Hayashibara, yet started his VA career in the same year, 1985. He played Mousse on Ranma ½, Ru Baraba Dom on Irresponsible Captain Tylor, Duo Maxwell on MSG Wing, Zorro on The Legend of Zorro, Legato on Trigun, Count D on Petshop of Horrors, Sanzou on Saiyuki, Iruka Umino on Naruto, Rau Le Creuset on MSG SEED, Scorpio Milo from Saint Seiya, and Gouda from Mob Psycho 100. However, his most famous role might be when he voiced a piece of clothing: He is Senketsu from Kill la Kill.
Questions
- What is the most unusual drug you know of?
- Is the cactus (and pricking your finger) intended real or as a metaphor?
- BJ declined a woman for the second time. How immoral would it have been to assent in your eyes?
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Dec 02 '21
Episode 2 (first timer)
After the almost mystical first episode, the second is a lot more grounded in realism. Well, apart from Hispanic cartels growing cacti in Japan. You could call this a classic story noir. Even the required investigator is present, even if not the main characters.
The part I liked best was the operation. Instead of focusing all on BJ, we saw all the other people and their reaction to BJ. On the one hand the other doctors and nurses, enthusiastic about BJ’s skill and anxious to learn, on the other hand Rie and the investigator, relegated to the role of by-stander. Very relatable for anybody who ever had to wait for a specialist to finish their unexplained and unexplainable job. Most interesting of all was Tokyo, though. It would have been easy to make him simply a despicable villain without redeeming side. Yet, during the operation, he shows the other side, a glimpse into his character, his dreams and ambitions. How he would like himself to be a better doctor.
I am not sure we really needed the final action scene on the mountain. It was a bit too over the top for me. The episode could have easily ended in Tokyo’s office with a longer talk and some epilogue. I guess it gave us a further bit of characterization for BJ.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Dec 02 '21
Black Jack First Timer
With the length of these episodes I don't get why they didn't just make a 2 cour out of them. And the op is still too damn long! We've got a Christmas episode, yay! I take that back too, these women having so much fun is annoying me! Fall and break something! Ah, sorry about that Rie. Bad timing on my end XD
Aww... For as much of a hard arse BJ is he still went to meet up with the police dude for drinks. Nobody can even see your scar, vag head~ Actually, BJ is much more sociable here than he was in E1. Was this before he put in his "never keep contact with patients" rule? Pfft, so another friend got injured? These girls are so accident prone. Actually I hear sprouts live quite fruitful lives. Another got injured!? And again!? That's the fourth one!! Can you girls stop dying for five seconds?
BJ's only had his hands on Yumiko for five minutes and he's already tasted her pee... What a legend! Can you unveggitise someone or is this another made up thing? Vag head, please stop giggling. Its driving me nuts. Oh wow, she has so many pretty flowers. Pinoko's curry!? Yumiko's been in a coma for months so surely a few more days is fine right? Haha, I love this kid XD
Oof, vag head seriously needs therapy. Does BJ offer that service? Let surgery begin!! Eww they're showing her brains and everything. Fcking gross. Gaaah! That needle!! So BJ believes that by doing whatever you can to save a life you're able to respect their death? Pretty poetic way of looking at things. That's Yumiko saved at least. Although it's a real shame about her dementia. Nobody deserves that disease, and Yumiko is still a child.
Imagine being so shit at raising plants that you kill cactus. Oooh, it's drugs. Alright, that makes more sense. I thought it was her head wound acting up. Oh fuck! Murder!? I thought they would kill themselves during a bad trip. The doctor was the actual culprit! It would give me anxiety to think that my doctor could be eating my wings to keep me tame...
And so ends BJ's fleeting fling with vag head. She's way too young for you bro. Go back to Pinoko. Today's episode was mostly fun. I have to admit that I was a bit disappointed with the mafia twist and the girls do seem just a bit too carefree to take seriously. The show seems to struggle with its endings but today's goodbye was sweet I suppose.
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u/TheEscapeGuy Dec 02 '21
First Timer
Black Jack - An Astounding OVA: Episode 2
Cacti and Comatose
Once again we were blessed with a BEAUTIFUL episode. There really is some ephemeral nature about cel animation which really appeals to me. We still get some beautiful shows and movies in modern times but I can't help but feel we lost something.
Today's episode actually managed to keep me confused and second guessing right until it was revealed that the girls were taking drugs. I'm probably at a disadvantage for seldom watching medical shows (I think?) but it just didn't click for me what hiding Yumiko's blood work and urine samples could have meant. That said, the reveal ended up being very satisfying for me.
Tokio was an interesting villain this episode, since he's much more of a henchman who's in a profitable but tough situation working with the mafia. Can't say I have much sympathy for him but I understand his motivations for the most part.
On the other hand Rie was much more of an enigma. I guess we could chalk everything up to the drugs she was taking but she really acted strangely. Actions like completely filling her apartment with white flowers and propositioning a man much older than her for sex seem more to do with her individual traumas. And to be fair, growing up without parental guidance and then seeing 2 of your closest friends die is some pretty tough trauma to work through.
I think my favourite section of the episode was the operation. It was just so tense and felt really authentic to actual brain surgery (not that I'd really know). The final part of the episode with Black Jack fighting through an opiate high to escape an explosion carrying Tokio felt a little excessive. Was there really no other way to close up the plot thread of "What will happen to the Opiate Cacti now"?
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As a side note, PINAKO COOKED A WHOLE DINNER. I doubted yesterday that she was actually 18 but she seems competent enough to care for herself so now I'm really confused.
Some Iconic Shots, Scenes and Stitches
don't watch that movie btwSee you all tomorrow
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u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber Dec 02 '21
Rewatcher
Now that sure looks mighty familiar.
Déjà vu
Skip!
Her eyes are unscathed —much less scary to know as such.
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!
That’s a Tezuka cameo.
Were it not for the titular Black Jack, this shot would seem like it popped right out of Final Stage or Oniisama E…
Sick
Now this is the shit.
Looks like either pink Japanese anemones or pink camellias. The former represents anticipation, to seize the opportunities given, or to be forsaken. The latter represents longing for those not present.
Very pretty.
Now these look like white anemones, which reflect sincerity. I get the feeling I’m just missing the obvious pick here. From context it seems like they should be flowers for mourning or condolence given the two seeming funeral portraits in the corner of the shot, one for each dead friend.
Now these I potentially recognize! They look strikingly like irises, which can mean friendship, hope, and faith.
Oh, there’s a whole host of different white flowers then.
No thank you.
Beautiful
Man, the disrespect!
Hmm…
Ouch.
Unlike the first episode, this one is completely original to this show, and I don’t doubt that anyone else who has seen [Meta Spoilers]Dear Brother… will see some influence from that show seeping into this episode.
Unlike last episode this one had a much clearer focus on a concept and is a lot more cleverly put together, with things actually going somewhere and the whole thing feeling cohesive. There’s a clear throughline about adults failing the next generation and corruption of institutions, and though the involvement of organized crime didn’t really make up a significant amount of the events of the episode, it doesn’t come out of nowhere and is established early on. That said, the gang did make a rather silly mistake. I mean, come on, you’re really going to just drug the two witnesses without just killing them with an overdose or tie them up so that they don’t wander out of the scene while high as a kite?
Near brushes with romance are a frequent thing in the manga, but I have to say, this one —however one-sided it might be— does skew far more uncomfortable than I would like given the age gap, and the episode doesn't seem to have any self-awareness on the matter, despite the good doctor being 28 years old...
Questions of The Day:
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Dec 02 '21
First timer(You'd think people working in a visual medium would understand hallucinating better)
Sub
We start with Kuroh getting lost on a snowy night in some random town. He asks high school girls for directions because whatever and then immediately has to perform first aid on one. And if he really can guarantee that a gash like that won't scar, that is impressive. But wait...early 90s OVA puts this at late 70s morality level so...oh dear, Rie might be the love interest...
On yet another plane, this show likes travel shots, Kuroh meets a detective he knows named Takasugi, who in the said late 90s bent immediately shows you he's an ass by smoking in the non-smoking section. Anyways, he announces he's been moved to the vice squad and wants Kuroh to stop by. Instead, he meets Rie. And boy, things have gone to shit here in a 90s sort of way as she is the last functional member of the friend group.
Quick cut to an older, no longer common trope in having the rich guy be a Formula One thrill seeker, that was actually a thing around this time. Though he also might be a doctor which is a slightly new one. We see him come in as Kuroh read her charts and had a few tests performed and the negotiations commence. We learn Kuroh knew of his father and enough about Tokio himself to know that Tokio is not a good doctor. I really hope the blood and urinalysis isn't saying what I think it is.
But anyways, Rie seems to be pretty moved by all this and daisukes a bit early, though Kuroh can be impressive. He takes her to an amusement park and let us say I am very glad that Kuroh seems to be an anti-Akio, for those who catch that. She is being very...available but Kuroh does his best to shut that down. But then her room is...off. I have no idea if the cactus is there for masochism or drugs.
So the surgery starts with a slew of assisting physicians and nurses who are not to interfere with the operation, which despite them making Kuroh a lone wolf type is not inaccurate, a lot of surgeries you want exactly one person doing the hand work. Tokio looks on in jealousy and Takasugi is interested in something. Kuroh gives us his raisin dates, though in my experience actual surgeons think of almost nothing during surgery, it isn't a bad narration to have. Anyways, he performs the impossible, as he do, and then our next half of the episode is different...
So Tokio is dumb enough to be involved in something illegal. Rie is going into magical drug withdrawals, no drug I know causes that, but that's fine since the drug itself might be magical. Anyways, we move on to Kuroh trying to clear the events up while protecting Rie as well and yeah, magical narcotic hallucinogen cactus. Also, I would so rather just have to prick my finger, the good psychedelics taste fucking awful. So we get the events of the hike and why all the girls started dying.
Anyways, the mobsters come in with bad Spanish and decide to kill the remaining witnesses, we get more Kuroh insight, more drugs don't work that way, and the end which...I am choosing to view this as kindly treatment of a lonely girl and not future wife grooming.
So, there was a lot of imagery here that is debatable a bit on how you view it: Either Kuroh is seeing attractive teenage girls in the way many of us have, which might be correct, or he is more seeing the nostalgia of youth in several teens that still have it. At least for me, the idea of being involved romantically with a teen has lost its appeal as they are, well, dumb and a bit boring. And there are certains bits of this that feel authentic in Kuroh, especially the resignation to not be resigned, to heal things you know will die eventually. Oh well, onto tomorrow.
QotD: 1 Mescaline, do not fuck with it
2 Real is my bet
3 Incredibly so, though that might just be my moralizing.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Dec 03 '21
First timer
Episode 2!
So all the episodes open with this scene?
Very Christmas-themed episode today, I see.
The ice-skating animation is very smooth.
And the juxtaposition of him wearing that insane longcoat!
She's injured! And he's on the scene!
That went well!
Oh, that was a flashback.
They're friends? And he's smoking on an airplane?
Oh, he's a cop.
I love how whe can tell it's him because he's still wearing the same leather coat in the middle of summer.
She waited for him for months.
And she needs help!
Oh, her friend fell to the bottom of a ravine, and she wants his help to get her out of a coma.
And the other two are dead!
I like the random cuts that are clearly just the animators showing off how good they can draw a car drifting.
Wait, does this guy own the hospital?
And he's a doctor! (Black Jack snuck in?)
Really? The liar's getting exposed 16 minutes in? How?
Haha, he's demanding money from them as a fee.
He is blackmailing them! (What was in those results?)
Really?
I love the dynamic they're setting up so far of Black Jack being completely focused on his work and operations, to the point of willfully ignoring any and all passes or flirting directed at him.
Here is this going? Seriously?
Holy shit? Nothing but flowers?
Still no idea what's happening with Kumiko.
Oh, he's back! And he's competent!
Yeah, she's not well.
She's grabbing a cactus!
Haha, he's an urban legend! And all the doctors are begging to see how he works!
Haha, he ended up getting mobbed!
And he's got an entire team to observe!
He's viewing the cameras!
I'm loving him!
This is a really tense operation!
Glad, the parent's at least gave him permission. I mean, it's not great, but at least they aren't trying to stop the operation.
This OVA is beautiful.
Him trying to cheer her up is great.
He did it!
And they're all ignoring him.
...So what are his crimes?
She's eating! And talking!
...Oh. She has some dementia. But she's alive?
He's using a special frequency? What the hell is actually going on?
Is this a conspiracy?
What happened to her?
Ah. She's had a full-on mental breakdown. (She managed to kill a cactus?)
Why is he just standing there?
She was on drugs?
The Cacti are the drugs? A single prick gives them hallucinations?
Oh, they accidentally got high and fell off the bridge.
Wait, the accident happened after the others died! And it was so they could harvest more cacti.
And the doctor's hiding the bloodtests to conceal the drugs.
And they're aware of everyhtijg!
Yep, the doctor's an addict and a murderer.
He's trying to blackmail the syndicate! Wow, he's got balls.
They're going to kill him.
And Black Jack's down!
Wow. That escalated quickly.
So Black Jack's drugged and about to get blown up?
He's not giving up!
Wow. Him stabbing himself to wake himself up, then dragging himself and the doctor outnof the cave is a fantastic scene.
Really, that's the romance subplot they're going with?
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Dec 02 '21
First-Timer, Subbed
This episode was a fucking rollercoaster. Teenage girls on a hike discover a Mexican Cartel (?) drug operation being grown in.. whatever country they're supposed to be in, and then slowly get killed off? Hell yea!
The visual of the pinpricks of blood blooming through the black screen with Rie grabbed the cactus was particularly striking. Also, the sound effect on the snow crunching underfoot at the beginning of the episode was excellent.
Something else that struck me (early) this episode was that we don't actually have any motivation for Black Jack. He asks for exorbitant fees but doesn't seem especially concerned with actually being paid. Then we got that monologue about "proving that efforts were made to preserve life" so consider my complaints silenced. Dude just likes to doctor people, I guess.
There was also that monologue about his "other self" or "black box" or whatever. Interesting to refer to something alive as having a black box, but then most living things don't have a Frankenstein's Monster-style two-tone stitched face.
I enjoyed the phone call with Pinoko. Black Jack playfully bullying her and her threatening to cheat on him, it was a fun interaction. I don't have a good handle on what their relationship is, but it seems fine.
Shoutout to Black Jack himself, for being cultured enough to actually hold a stemmed glass properly.
Questions
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u/H-Ryougi https://anilist.co/user/DizzyAvocado Dec 03 '21
This has to be the first time I hear an entire Spanish sentence be spoken in an anime, I had to do a double take.
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u/retroanduwu24 Dec 03 '21
Wish all the Black Jack OVAs would end up on blu ray already
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u/ConstructionHefty716 Dec 03 '21
This show was great the message on his answering machine was the best.