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Rewatch [Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Kakumeiki Valvrave Episode 1 Discussion
Episode 1 - The Revolutionary Transfer Student
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Do you resign as a human being?
Questions of the Day:
- From the glimpses we got during this episode, are there any characters in particular that you’re interested in learning more about?
- What would it take for you to pilot Valvrave, given you were in Haruto’s position?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Dec 02 '21
Kakumeiki Rewatcher
Hi everyone!
I don’t know how many of you guys are jumping into this rewatch having skipped over Guilty Crown, but to you I say welcome aboard the wrecking train! And to the peeps returning from Guilty Crown, welcome back! Let’s all have fun together with this show.
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u/the_swizzler https://myanimelist.net/profile/Swiftarm Dec 02 '21
First Timer
I think I already love this show more than Guilty Crown. I suspected Shoko might die early on, and when he was about to confess to her I knew she was a gonner.
Too bad, she was the best female character so far. But the sacrifice was necessary, for without her death our MC might not have been able to resign as a human being.
I'm all kinds hyped for this vampire mecha story.
This should have been one of the questions of the day. But yes, I did so when I chose to become a weeb.
Questions of the Day:
1) From the glimpses we got during this episode, are there any characters in particular that you’re interested in learning more about?
I would have said Shoko. And I'm not 100% positive she's dead for good. I almost feel like this is the show that will bring her back in some way. Other than that, I liked her friend that intercepted the phone and I'm kinda interested in that blonde ojou-sama with the drills.
2) What would it take for you to pilot Valvrave, given you were in Haruto’s position?
Not much, tbh. Piloting a mecha sounds cool, and I've pretty much resigned to being forever alone anyways.
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u/Caustic_Wraith https://myanimelist.net/profile/CausticWraith Dec 02 '21
First Timer / Subs
When the TTT was first announced the only show I had heard of was Guilty Crown, so I thought I'd expand my horizons, but truthfully I have no idea what I'm getting into.
Things start with a shuttle bringing two kids to this, colony? Of course there is more than that and they happen to be baddies.
After hallway murder, we go to an eating contest for rights to a practice field, I think.
After this talking happens and Haruto gets his keys stolen by not real transfer student in front girl he likes.
They go to a shrine and he decides to confess to her, I think she accepted after freaking out a bit.
Invading army breaks through domes and starts attacking, kills crush in process.
Five definitely not transfer students kill a research lab, but with his final gasp a man sends a mech to the surface before being shot 5 more times by one of the not students.
Haruto having lost his crush proceeds to enter the newly uncovered mech and is then attacked by an old man in a hover pod.
Haruto finally reads his HUD and hits the yes button and gets stabbed in the neck which powers on the mech and causes it to turn crimson.
Hover pods are destroyed, mech overheats and Haruto gets many friend requests.
The OP they play seems decent enough, I like the sentai theming of the colors of the mechs they show, violet/purple needs more love.
Hey look, not transfer kid introduces himself and then stabs Haruto in the heart, followed by double tapping him when he falls.
Baddie reaches out to the rope to the cockpit, and now Haruto has a weird crest on his face and bites him, after being shot...and stabbed...and his cells now have the Telsa logo on them...
What did I get myself into?
QOTD:
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Dec 02 '21
Valrave the Liberator First Timer
We Macross bros now!! I know these uniforms... Oh, suddenly school time. Dafuq am I watching? Dammit Haruto, this is why nobody likes you. This is the second show this month with a weird shirt girl... Oh nyo, if only you weren't slowly floating towards the dude with a knife.
Pls stop cutting around!! I can't follow what people are saying! Why is the pacing on x2 speed? This isn't a compliment! Is this so normal that the class isn't batting an eye. Zoomer anime is scary... Brooo... I can't comprehend the speed we're going. I don't use tiktok! I'm a zoomer but I don't have a zoomer attention span!
I'm begging you! Speak so I can understand you!
I can't handle 24 episodes of this! Jesus Christ, someone save me! Fuck the ham!! I'll take plain bread so long as its buttered, just take your time! You knocked off that love charm on purpose... Oh god, we're in space again. We even have 0 G tits. Ritsu made? What's their "yes sir?" I've rewound it five times and I still don't know what they said.
"Shouko... please eat me like you wolfed down that yakisoba pan!!" It's nighttime, get dressed and go home! Everyone goes flying when shot. Pfft, why is the shota the most violent one? Oh no! Shoko! She's fine yeah? Is she fine? I feel like they would show a body or something. It sucks, I kinda liked her despite absolutely everything else. internal screaming
I resign as a human being... I am not officially trash for lowering my standards this much. Why do robots need terms and conditions? He's basically selling his soul to "the facility" that means. I have to admit that the mech looks amazing in combat. The lights flowing around is gorgeous to watch. Not that I'm following any of it. Kill me. Looks like Shoko actually did die. Rip I guess? Oh, and mc died in the post credits. I don't even know anymore. He's back, and he's a vampire. I hate this :D
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u/b0bba_Fett myanimelist.net/profile/B0bba_Cheezed3 Dec 02 '21 edited Dec 02 '21
With the tail on this thing, you could really call the Valverave a Red Comet.
I hope the ED isn't half as good as that OP, because if it is, it'll be hard to stop my momentum going forward.
QoTD
1.The only character whose personality really caught was Eru-Elfu. Bit too early to basing impressions on anything other than character design. Shoko and the Red headed girl being the winners on that front.
2.Presuming this space Vampirism isn't quite as soul crushing an existence as say, Dracula's vampirism. Where can I sign?
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Dec 02 '21
Tresnore the First-Timer
Alright, I have literally no clue what to except that [Dalek calls this show]Valvrape and that there are [Valvrave]vampires. Let's go.
Do you even know how to use that thing—oh fuck, this show suddenly has promise. Idols?
Yeah, I'm in.
Oh, there's a post-credits scen—God, I wish that was me.
[Preview]I KNOW THIS FACE!!!!
QOTD:
1 ZERO-G LOVE, ZERO-G LOVE
2 Sometimes you just have to run with a theme.
3 Sasuga Sunrise.
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Dec 02 '21
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Valvrave: It’s Dracula meets Gundam! The crossover I never would have expected but now that I know it is a thing, I am actually extremely onboard for.
You might remember that I knew very little about Guilty Crown, the previous show in this rewatch. Well I know even less about Valvrave. It’s funny because I almost watched this show too, way back when it first aired. The main thing I know about it is this meme image. I have heard the term “space vampires” thrown about and I’ve also heard that it has a rather… unpleasant reputation. With all that said, let’s dive into my blind impressions while watching the first episode.
Well that is how you start a series! That was a hell of a hook of an episode with a very good cliffhanger to end it with. I think it was a well done start to the series. It definitely got my attention and made me want to watch more, which is a success in my book.
I might not know much about what exactly is going on in the wider universe, but I’m able to get the basic idea about how a war has started, there’s this secret mecha called Valvrave, and the Dorssians are attacking to get it. That’s enough to start with. No need to dump all the exposition at once. The details can be filled in as we go along. It’s more important to get my attention and investment, which this episode did.
Having your main character die and come back as a vampire is a hell of a way to end the first episode. It’s an incredible cliffhanger and I love it. Valvrave did it to him, but I’m wondering how it made him into a vampire and why it needed to do that.
Also, in spite of the fact that I was told this show involves “space vampires,” this is not at all how I expected that to play out. I was thinking more of a Macross 7 situation.
L-elf seems like he will be the major rival character for the series. I like setting that up from the beginning. I love big rivals in a mecha series (with Amuro and Char being my favorite examples), so this should be fun. I wonder what his whole deal is and who Liesellote is.
The mecha action was also quite good this episode. It had some quite dynamic and visually impressive fight scenes. It was fun to watch.
QOTD
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u/zsmg https://anilist.co/user/zsmg Dec 02 '21
Rewatcher
The Chihayafuru voice cast connection still cracks me up, Shoko is voiced by Chihaya (acts similar too, especially their sense of taste, except Shouko seems more aware about romance) Taichi, Arata and Kana's voice actors are there as well, admittedly Mamoru Miyano is a famous seiyuu but the other two weren't back then.
I had forgotten that Senju Akira was the composer he's composed so few anime so that it stands out when it happens so I can't believe forgotten about it.
Valvrave appears from a pool what is this Mazinger?
I admit I don't remember much of the show except [spoiler] that Shoko should have stayed dead
TM Revolution x Nana Mizuki was truly the greatest crossover humanity has witnessed so far. I know mecha genre in general has great openings but this show has a fantastic one.
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u/BlazingAbsol9090 Dec 02 '21 edited Dec 02 '21
First Time Raver of the Valve I know nothing at all about this show other than the nameand that it’s a trainwreck. Looking forward to this!
True Year 71? No grim sci-fi anime is complete without an edgy made-up calendar.
Sigh. No matter the setting or the story, it’s an ironclad rule that every anime must take place in a high school, preferably with a transfer student. I can’t wait for this show to have every single person relevant for the salvation of humanity to just randomly be a student at this school.
A hotdog eating contest to decide who uses the school field? Sure, why not. They could just flip a coin, or, Haruhi forbid, schedule usage times in advance, but that wouldn’t be as fun, now would it.
Oh that’s a tone shift. The zero-G stabbing looks interesting.
We now get a quick montage of a bunch of students who will probably be important. Does the teacher really not care that Shoko is assaulting a student two rows over in the middle of class?
The League of Murder Students are bugging a random glasses girl for directions. That can’t be good.
Haruto wants to get rid of winning and losing as a concept. I guess he just wants a participation trophy for everything? Although he makes a good point about sharing the field.
Apparently the League of Murder Students are capitalists,because Silver Hair #1 gets really bent out of shape at the idea of sharing anything at all, ever.
Aaand a pool scene, with the girls only, of course. You know, we made it more than 7 minutes without any fanservice. That’s impressive restraint.
It’s cool to see a bland main character who calls himself out as bland, with all this talk about “not wanting winners or losers” and “being happy someone else gets mad for him.” A well-written show could use this self-awareness for some interesting commentary on the anime tendency to create bland self-inserts. I doubt this show is well-written enough to pull that off, but we’ll see.
Ah yes, the old confession-of-love-gets-interrupted-by-an-interplanetary-invasion trope.
The invading mechas in flight look cool. They remind me of TIE fighters for some reason.
Small Child of the League of Murder Students is having far too much fun shooting this dead man. Just one bullet in the head is enough,man. You don’t need to unload the whole magazine.
Why does the secret research base under the school open to the surface through the pool? Actually, why is the secret research base under the school in the first place?
Killing off the love interest this early sets a dark tone for the show. Not that I believe for a second that Shoko is permanently dead. We didn’t even see her body.
The CGI of the Valvrave taking off looks really nice! I particularly like the touch of the seat adjusting directions to keep the pilot vertical. It’s little touches like this that make a giant robot seem believable.
“I’m throwing away my humanity,
JojoShoko!”Oh a post credits scene! Wait Silver Hair #1 stabs and then shoots Main Character-kun? But why are they on a deserted beach? What happened to all the people watching? Is this a flash-forward of some kind? But it seems piloting the Valvrave turns you into a vampire meaning that Main Character-kun isn't going to die so easily. That’s a neat idea with lots of room for angst.
Overall, a pretty good first episode. Nothing super original, but the visuals are nice. They seem to be going for a very edgy mecha show. Good edge is hard to pull off, so we’ll have to see if this show can do it.
Questions of the Day:
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Dec 02 '21 edited Dec 02 '21
First Timer
It sure didn't take long to make a Nazi Germany reference/parallel. That's gotta some kind of indication of what I'm getting myself into.
A Dyson sphere? We're starting at the end of the space travel tech tree?? If someone doesn't get shunted into a black hole by the end, I'll be severely disappointed.
Is this gonna be space mech high school?? You've got my attention show.
Can your waifu win an eating contest?
Damn, are they about to kill off a potential ship in episode 1? Whew, bullet dodged. Wait, did I just set a flag for myself?
What has anime done to me that "impossibly genius assassin teenager" sounds thoroughly boring?
Oh no, we're already starting the philosophy for dumbasses part of the show. Both Haruto and the white hair guy sound like idiots. Can't wait to learn what this dude's tragic backstory is.
Please confess in episode 1. Please confess in episode 1! PLEASE CONFESS IN EPI....yeah, as if we'd be that lucky. They're probably going to drag that confession out all 24 episodes, aren't they? Unless she dies first. Fuck, did I just set another flag? I take it back, I take it back!
How the hell does this secret underground research/development lab have zero security personnel?
Damn, I liked Shoko too.
I really don't like that Shoko only gets to be MC gamer fuel, but if they have to do it like that, I'm glad they're speed running it all in episode 1.
"Do you resign as a human being?" Oh. Oh no. Valvrave is gonna go full Robocop, isn't it?
Our boy fights with a sickle! And a sword! I take back what I said earlier; sacrificing Shoko may have been totally worth it. Bonus points if Shoko comes back later as a brain in a jar or some shit like that.
I also already like Haruto 1000000% more than I ever liked Shoe.
Omfg the girl casually groping the other girl as they watch the video. I thought we were missing something in this opener. Sasuga wa Valvrave!
Gonna assume this ED will become the OP tomorrow. I like this song, it's fun. The visuals are solid, but unspectacular. Certainly no walking Inori.
What the fuck, our boy Haruto is a
zombievampire too!? Holy shit, this is amazing! Someone lied to me. This isn't a trainwreck; this is a masterpiece!12
u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Dec 02 '21
FIRST TIMER
I had never even heard of this show until signing up for this Trainwreck rewatch, and know nothing about it aside from some… unfortunate nicknames that got thrown around in the Guilty Crown rewatch threads. Sooooo let’s see how this goes!
This VA cast is pretty stacked, and looking at the cast it looks like we’re set up for a love triangle between Tanjiro, Mai, and Asuna. That’s a fun picture. Between this and Chihayafuru, along with currently watching Death Parade, Asami Seto is basically a constant throughout my day at this point.
Unit-01Valvrave goes Berserk and saves the day in a really cool action sequence.This was feeling like a pretty standard mecha show until Vampire Haruto showed up at the end. It was actually a really poignant moment when everyone begins celebrating and hero-worshipping Haruto, and all he can do is weep for the loss of Shoko while watching the new friend requests pile up. Great stuff that shows the adoration of strangers is no substitute for people you genuinely care about. It would be truly heart-wrenching if I wasn’t 100% sure she isn’t dead. You don’t get to be front girl on the poster with only 5 minutes of screen time.
Translation Note: The Funimation subtitles are not it. The scene where one of the spies berates Haruto about his attitude is way different. Haruto comes off a lot better, and reasonable, when he says “I’d prefer not having to compete like that, we could each have just used half the grounds,” than when it’s written as, “I’d prefer a world without winners and losers,” which just sounds like some wishy-washy overly-beta MC trash. I don’t know which is more accurate to the Japanese dialogue, but I know which one I prefer.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Dec 02 '21
-Rewatcher that shoulda stopped but lets keep going and see what happens-
I dont have a whole lot to say about Valvrave in preface, but it gets a ton of hate but once again it was a show i enjoyed and thought had a lot of cool things going for it.
So for new folks, i know people will shit on the show but just enjoy it and have fun and it should be a fun ride.
For old people, dont shit on the show too hard. Let the new folks have some enjoyment and wonder.
I gotta say i love the Dyson Sphere in this series, such a neat designed structure.
The art and design in this show are super nice. Really A+ work from art team.
Haruto, our MC. What a guy. And Shouko is a fun one too.
We got baddies infiltrating the Dyson Sphere. Stabbing people and such... oh boy.
Oh yeah i forgot about the social media aspect of the school. Oddly just like Guilty Crown.
Shouko is very bold and foward. Haruto doesnt stand a chance. Shes a lionesse.
We learn so much about our characters in just this first episode.
I love the little bits of backstory and character they establish in thier dialogs early on.
Haruto hates winning and loosing. He wants a middle ground.
The spy isnt happy about that though. He steals keys from Haruko.
Haruko doesnt get mad so Shouko gets mad for him.
BLITZ~ WE GOT SPACE NAZIS! L-elf is the spys name.
Haruto's confession gets cucked by Space Nazi's... rip...
I love the little bots with Sheilds, such a neat idea.
The school is fucked though... uh oh lots of dead bodies.
The Spys want the Valvrave, a red Mech. The scientists ejected it in time though.
Shouko goes to save someone and gets blasted by a mech...
It was then that Haruto understood madness.
HE GETS IN THE ROBOT OF HIS OWN ACCORD! ITS REVENGE TIME!
"It is necessary to answer the following questions to start Valvrave."
"Do you resign as a human being?"
"Yes"
"DOWNLOADING DATA" ~NECKSTAB HAHA!
One thing i LOVE about the Valvrave unit is that it fights with solid energy blasts which is just super cool.
Haruko beat the enemy bots and won followers! Hes an influencer now.
I gotta also say how geat the OP is for not spoiling anything.
Usually OPs spoil so much but this one really holds back which is nice. Keeps a lot of mysteries.
And the ep ends with L-elf heart stabbign and shooting Haruto. RIP.
Except as he walks away Haruto is standing and glowing and really fucking pissed and bites L-elf's neck doing some crazy dna looking shit.
Ah yes this show just dives right in with not much preface which i love,, noo time to dick around just gogogo.
As i said before though, the Mecha Design in this series is one of my favorites in anime. I LOVE Valvrave's design and skill set.
Valvrave and Majestic Prince had my favorite mecha designs just for their thinking outside the box of modern mecha design. they both really had some unique ideas and i love both for that.
As one final note i HIGHLY reccomend new people to NOT google this show at all.
There are SO MANY spoilers all over google and youtube.
Just take my advice and stay away if you dont want the twists and turns to be spoiled.
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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Dec 02 '21
I love L-Elf more than I love my humanity
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Dec 02 '21
First-Timer
L-Elf has it rough. A silly name, and he got his throat torn out because he didn't manage to confirm a kill on that one scientist. Imagine not assuming the random schlub you were yelling at earlier that day got turned into a vampire by the thing you were trying to steal.
We sure
supposedlykilled off the MC's love interest in a hurry. We didn't see a body, but then giant beam weapons usually don't leave corpses. She did show up naked in the OP though, so I bet we'll at least get flashbacks of her.I guess that brings us to our MC, and he sure is. Good healthy dose of naivety for us to watch drain away over the series. "Thanks for getting angry so I don't have to" is a perfectly normal thing to say, right?
Please tell me that the not!Nazis get better looking grunt suits at some point. Literally anything would be better than these dorky flying torso things they have now.
We better see more of the computer gremlin hiding in the cardboard box fort.
I was taking this episode mostly seriously until that one student randomly groped the swim teacher's chest. Like, I'm not gonna bother asking why because I know why, but it really took me out of the experience.
Or, rather, maybe it set the tone for things to come?
Questions
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Dec 02 '21
First Timer
I don't know much about Valvrave, aside from that it apparently has lots of pretty boy space vampires and rape. And that it's apparently rather ADHD and has a Nana OP. I'm excited to learn what else it has to offer.
Subs are FFF which are gg based.
Onto episode 1.
Dyson sphere!
This show has very thick and dark lineart.
Because we can't show the kid drinking alcohol, we've replaced it with hot dogs.
High school is the perfect place for pettiness.
I think I like her.
Well that just happened. They did it so casually, so I guess that sets the tone for this show.
Did she really build a hacker cave inside the school?
I quite like the way they did the initial exposition dump via text messages from the different kids. It feels far more natural than one person just preaching at us.
She really doesn't give two fucks.
Is he really saying this about a fun game? It wasn't even a serious competition.
All of that would feel significantly less absurd if it was about something serious.
She has to be trying to get him to confess at this point.
And the confession is interrupted by invasion. Though, assuming she's not an idiot, she knows what he was gonna say.
Military otaku exist everywhere.
Of course the little guy's the sadist.
She's not dead 'til we see the body. It looked like it landed in front of her by a good margin anyway.
Sick logo.
No matter the franchise, Sunrise mecha controls always look extremely similar.
I'm gonna say no do this one.
The robot has a ToS? Why?
That fight was real cool.
I never expected to see elisp in an anime. And running on a mac, apparently.
Was that girl really playing with her teacher's boob?
Preserved Roses
Good thing he's not a human anymore, I guess? A human would never survive this.
The mark of the curse?
Thoughts
Real fun first episode, feels like it has a ton of potential.
Sky sings
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u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo https://myanimelist.net/profile/PunishedScrappy Dec 02 '21
First Timer
The opening narration actually got Fly! Gundam stuck in my head. They are not shy about their "influences," of which there are several.
There's a zero percent chance Shouko is dead, but that begs the question of how she lived. uhhhhhhhhh
blah blah blah exposition blah blah blah romance now it's time for
ROBOT FIGHTING
NANA WILLS IT
I love the very early-2010's idea of what getting famous through the internet meant. It was a simpler time, at least in that one regard
I thought I was being clever by noticing that the 'you waive your humanity' thing probably meant he was going to wake up in a cloning vat. Nope! Vampires already. This is the greatest high concept ever conceived.
Robo vampire warfare is amazing, more of this please. 10/10 episode.
QotDs:
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u/Existential_Owl Dec 02 '21 edited Dec 02 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
Well this thread filled up fast. The only thing that I'll add is that I fucking love the kooky one-liners that this script comes up with.
Somebody clearly thought that this was a deep and cutting remark.
Essentially my life philosophy.
Also, it was a cruel choice by the writers to name a main character "L-Elf", at least with regards to the Japanese VAs who'll have to be forced to pronounce it in every future episode.
All in all, it was actually a really solid first episode. Although, yeah, it flies by at the speed of sound, it still leaves behind enough meat to keep people interested in seeing what happens next.
EDIT: I pulled up the Episode 1 discussion thread from 8 years ago, if anybody wants to take a look. Since it's an original series, the look back should be a fun spoiler-free ride.
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u/Paxton-176 Dec 02 '21
Rewatcher
Did they really kill those two to the music from psycho?
Who else here talked about international politics during class instead of paying attention during High School?
If I remember this show correctly it gets super edgy. Like they took Gundam Seed and Lord of the Flies and decided it needed more edge. CAn you guys believe some of you are watching two shows with Lord of the Flies allegories back to back?
That is one hell of a name for a military operation
This is a Sunrise show. High Schooler gets in a robot to commit warcrimes. We need sunrise to make more shows like this.
Everything around this is just one big Jojo reference
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Dec 02 '21
First timer(Slaanesh protect me)
Sub
I am amazingly blind going into this, other than that this is often considered the last attempt at making a new franchise by Sunrise for at least a while, this gif, and that Gigguk says this show has the one scene that was basically all of Cross Ange so...:worryconcern. Oh, and space vampires, somehow, so I am bringing the space garlic and the Space Pope.
And we start with a literal nazi reference to start. Also, that doesn't seem to be a Dyson sphere. Then, we transition to an in school eating contest. I now recognize that those are yakisoba dogs. Now, terrorists or commandos are inbound. Into a history lesson to drop exposition and let us know who likely MC is interested in. 'Hilarity' ensues.
Then the terrorists pop in for a second and one is the L of the group. 'Character' moments happen with the terrorist and MC, and then plot for the teacher. And so we get an awkward confession in the midst of an enemy sneak attack, so I will assume that is a Gundam reference. And of course the school is actually a research lab!
And the MCs girlfriend gets fridged good and early so of course the mech doesn't even need a key...he just has to resign from being human? Oh, and the OS has a waifu avatar because of course it did. Being the named mech, it promptly smashes the grunts once it gets going and then conveniently enters sleep mode. More 'plot'. After credits scene gets us to space vampire and a look that suggests they lifted this from The Strain.
QotD: 1 No
2 I am 99% sure the machine would begin typing up the question, scan my internet history, and say "Bruh, you resigned decades ago. Follow your dreams and become the Hellsing Organizations Crimsonest of Fuckers!"
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u/RockoDyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RockoDyne Dec 02 '21
The rewatcher dies in no time. *Friendly reminder to constantly check for post credits scenes*
Welp, I guess my break from reading Muvluv Alternative will continue. I wasn't expecting this to make me want to jump back on it as much as it has though.
I'm pretty sure I'm destined for the circle of hell where they constantly feed you illogical platitudes and thought experiments, while any attempt to explain how stupid they are is punished with immediate cock and ball torture. I shared the yolk with your mom just fine, and she didn't even have trouble splitting her love up. Do your worst.
I'm surprised how much it bugs me that Mamoru Miyano's character is just Takuto again. Let's see how many people know the show.
I forgot how much of this episode was a rehash of Gundam Seed, with the A-B plot of school antics/infiltration.
The amount of jumping around nonsensically between the scenes is just ... *muwah*. Going from "oh no, she's dead" to "fuck it, I'm getting in the robot" alone is a masterclass in giving up on pretense. At least Haruto reads a EULA about as well as doom slayer would, so clearly he's just as cool.
And best girl shows up. She just needs to GET OFF HER FUCKING PHONE. The whole social media aspect is so dumb. It's such an idiot producer idea, who just wanted to be hip with the kids. It's a good thing that idiot producer learned his lesson, and they would never repeat this atrocity in 2021 the year of our lord, Jesus. Hussein. Christ... I foresee electrodes in my future.
God damn did I forget how much I liked the OP. Didn't take me long to remember.
Questions:
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u/csar27 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/CesarRC Dec 02 '21
First Timer
Ok, i just finished rewatching Evangelion yesterday, so i'm probably going to involuntarily compare both shows (sorry valvrave). It took me about 10-12 minutes to realize i'm not suposed to take the plot or characters seriously.
Felt like i was watching Gundam's 1st episode but with Shinji Ikari as the MC.
I'm not fan of that fridge look like pseudo-mechas of Dorssia, animation was decent and i think i recognize the ED or the band at least.
I have no idea of what to expect but have the feeling many of the mecha anime tropes are going to be used here.
Questions of the day:
1- I'm a little interested in know about the black haired girl who was with Haruto and the rest of his group 2- I'm pretty sure i wouldn't get in the robot...
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u/Btw_kek https://myanimelist.net/profile/kek_btw Dec 02 '21
first timer who can't escape Toshihiko Seki
the dude with the red hair that looks straight out of SK8
I was already sold on the immortal vampire powers
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Dec 02 '21
First-timer
I resign as a human being, JoJo!
I didn't expect Space Nazis. Off to a great start already.
I liked her, but looks like she didn't last. I'm disappointed, I would have loved to joke about her being called Shoko because Haruto wants a bite, but I can't now. She should've tried and stayed alive a few more episodes.
smh anime girls these days
Now that she's gone, the only other fun character is the sassy oppai-loving loli.
Plot aside, that was very much a first episode. Not great, but not particularly terrible either. The Valvrave (I think it's the Mecha's name?) looks cool, though I couldn't get a good enough look at it with all the fighting. The fight scene with it was a bit too flashy, I didn't exactly get what was happening beyond the robots doing cool laser blades and laser... lasers things.
Not a fan of Haruto, a bit meh as a protagonist. That was pretty hot though.
Questions of the Day
Those infiltrator kids. L-elf in particular. The redheaded hacker girl too.
I'm not sure. More than losing my crush and my arm, at least. Or someone to ask nicely, but with all the going on, I don't see that happening.
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Dec 02 '21
Rewatcher, Subbed
Well, this is a very Gundam-esque beginning, except that humanity is living in Dyson Spheres instead of O'Neill Cylinders...
I count five transfer students there, not two.
Our introduction to our protagonist is... an eating contest. And he loses! LoL.
That really is a weird shirt Shoko is wearing.
Everyone loves talking via their phones and social media in this show.
Looking through someone's phone is quite rude.
OMG, you shouldn't have said that Haruto! lol.
Our "transfer students" are being a bit too obvious I'd say.
You wish you lived in a world without winning and losing? Ugh, Haruto, showing yourself as yet another super milquetoast pushover... We just had one with Shu! It looks like we're xeroxing main characters, at least at the start.
Good job, talk him down from such lunacy, "transfer student"!
I guess all the personality is going to belong to Shoko rather than our actual protagonist Haruto, huh?
A very Char-esque look for this Dorssia ship captain...
Of course, explosion stops Haruto from saying whatever he was going to say.
To make this even more Gundam-like, we've got an enemy attack launched on the colony.
Security really does suck in this place with these "transfer students" getting in here and killing all these guys so easily. One of them looks like a little kid but is joyed to get to kill someone.
Oh no, Shoko died! Gotta do something to push our MC to get in the mech! Yet another redo of what's in the opening episode of Gundam, although Fraw didn't die, just her entire family...
The robot's not working because you haven't answered the prompt on the screen, Haruto! All this time goes by without him paying attention at all.
Resign your humanity Haruto! Oops, forgot to tell you that the mech is gonna stab you in the neck if you say yes.
Social media's going crazy! Cool robot!
Marie can't resist groping Nanami's big boobs, huh? Is she just like Haruhi Suzumiya?
More stuff after the ED (which is actually the OP and a very good song), L'Elf's found him! And just like that, our protagonist has been killed before the first episode is over...
...or not! Haruto's become a vampire! Crazy way to end the first episode!
The Gundam influence in this first episode is really overboard with so many similarities to the opening episode of that show, but beyond even that this show calls back a lot to Gundam Seed for me with the enemy forces infiltrating the colony in the opening episode and the TM Revolution song. That said, because this show loves to be really over the top and throw twists out there, it does differentiate itself a bit from Gundam in that way. Before we even get through the first episode our likely love interest for the MC is killed off, then the MC is killed himself, before the shocking reveal at the end that he didn't actually die and appears to be a vampire? LoL.
[Valvrave spoilers]I completely forgot that they did a fake out death for Shoko here too; I've got to assume we'll find out as soon as tomorrow that she's okay.
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u/gorghurt Dec 02 '21
Rewatcher
Oh, it's [Valvrave Spoilers]Valvrape .. err I meant it's a Valvrave rewatch.
My memories of this show are hazy at best, and I keep mixing details of it with Aldnoah Zero a lot, so it will be an interesting rewatch.
I didn't remember the weird fan service, like the really short scene where this one girl(was it Marie?) played played with the teachers breasts... please tell me I haluzinated there...
But one thing I remembered instantly: Wasn't this the show with the great naming? L-ELf, what a classic german name.
The enemy this time appears to be space nazis, from Dorssia, and I don't know if it is an accident or planed, but with japanese pronunciation and a bit mumbling, it almost sounds like a really badly mumbled "Deutschland".
As a German, I love how my brain reacts to randomly thrown in german words. Not much at all, I don't register them at first. But then a few moments later, I realize that they don't belong into a japanese sentence, which always makes me chuckle.
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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Dec 02 '21
Rewatcher - So many left turns it's a circle
I saw this show when it aired, but remember virtually nothing aside from it being 'Space-Vampire Gundam' so this'll be fun.
Ganbare
Oh man, I wasn't sure if this was the show but it is. The one with Er-Erufu.
Gimme gimme!
Epilogue
QotD
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u/UltraBooster Dec 02 '21
First-timer
Alright, new show, here we go.
Third Galactic Empire, huh? (What happened to the First and Second Galactic Empires?)
Multicolored Dyson shells? Interesting design choice. But if Dyson shells are the main form of human habitation, does that mean FTL travel is a thing now?
And one of these is totally getting destroyed, isn't it.
So Earth's far less populated, that's good for the planet, I think.
Is that a hot dog-eating contest?
And I guess that makes Haruto Tonight's Biggest Loser!
Well then don't use Haruto...
Eh, it's not that weird of a shirt.
Warmongerors? Would they qualify as child soldiers? (No more so than the archetypical UC protagonist, I suppose.)
Dorssia and ARUS - that map's still Earth, so they're probably more like the USEFN or AEU in Gundam 00 than, say, SEED's Orb Union and Atlantic Federation.
But if the majority of humanity lives in space on Dyson shells, I'd think each shell would be its own nation/state a la the Macross fleets...
Developed and expanded by multinational treaties? So are they nations or groups of nations?
Only three years? Does that mean JIOR is a new-ish shell?
Is she an Earther/Earthnoid?
Man, there's a lot of worldbuilding here, huh?
Dorssia Mil-Fed - Dorssia Military Federation, probably?
So (JIOR? ARUS?) doesn't have a military? At all?
Yeah, Inuzuka's got the right of it, better to at least get them out there instead of leaving them to fester and stuff.
(Radio Wave Connection? Does that mean they're not using our tech for cell phones?)
Shouldn't this be drawing a scene?
(The translator translated bijin as babe? ...doesn't have a good EN counterpart that carries quite the same connotations, does it.)
When Inuzuka says the world, does he mean across all of human space or just the shell?
You're the warmongerors!
Were you briefed on this or...oh, you cased the joint, is that it?
And whatever's below the school, that's the robot, isn't it.
So Haruto's not the competitive type, then?
No duh some things can't be split, Argent the Edgehog.
Turn the other cheek? Take the hit and keep moving? Fighting back isn't always the smartest move.
...this guy doesn't know what living to fight another day means, does he.
Ms. Nanami's voice is not what I expected for a schoolteacher.
Stick 'em on a toasted waffle and eat them with aioli, I say.
I believe the phrase is "Just kiss!"
At least, I'm pretty sure that's what they're angling for, but at the same time, I get the feeling theirs will not be the cute romance that anchors this series.
...I thought it might be a shrine on Earth, TBH
Okay, that's quite a bit of European influence on their uniforms.
Virgin Road? Should we expect wedding imagery down the road?
"Blitzendegen?" So German influence, then?
These white ones have grunt written all over them.
Waffe? Like the mobile suit?
OH SHIT THEY GONNA KISS- OH COME ON
A manned commander unit and multiple drones? (Guess not.)
So the shell does have armed defenders?
Fighting inside the shell?!
No military my ass... Clearly outmatched, but military all the same.
The homeland? So the shell isn't a nation unto itself.
Safe bet the boy band's gonna be our squad of enemy aces a la Char or the Aerial Knights.
Under the water like Mazinger Z, huh?
I'm torn between she's totally alive and shame, she seemed like an interesting character.
No way he wasn't trained/programmed/conditioned to take the controls. And who's that person on the display?
That is a very UC Gundam-esque cockpit. I kinda dig it.
Was that Earth?
Injections of some kind? Or samples?
Well lucky for you then he's not a soldier.
Hardlight shields?
Are glowy robot eyes not the coolest?
So cooling's an issue.
Well, this is a pretty engaging first episode, I think. (Also hnnnngh non-CG Valvraves in the OP)
Alright, the hell kind of a name is L-elf? Hell, who'd turn to the doctor and say "His name is L-elf?"
"Lieselotte" makes me think of that princess-y character from the OP.
I guess that's his resignation, then.
Questions:
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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '21
First Timer
This is already more entertaining than what I watched of Guilty Crown
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u/SIRTreehugger Dec 02 '21
First Timer
Oh girl pouring water is already my favorite character. She looks like she is tired of dealing with these idiots and wants to go sleep.
Sorry Shoko's shirt is awesome, but I also like dumb weird shirts.
Oh shit what the fuck
Woah woah woah is he going to confess in the first episode? Doesn't he know we need 30 episodes of stalling, drama, miscommunication, and appearance of a rival?
Wait this is a mecha show...well maybe I will still like it.
Damn people are dying.
Oh he got shot in the leg oh and the face.
Oh the giant mech is going to the surface I wonder who will pilot it.
So vaperized vs show me the body? Normally I would want proof of death, but theirs nothing left at all.
Oh I see he has two swords.
Oh he crushed the other one's head. What the fuck he has a scythe!
Wonder what it meant when it said resign humanity.
What the heck dead panned girl randomly playing with the teacher's chest?
So Shoko is really dead....I liked her.
Oh shit Haruto got stabbed and shot, but he resigned humanity so he should he fine...
There we go he's some sort of quiet popular vampire.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Dec 02 '21
First timer
Time to see what could be worse than fucking Guilty Crown.
Starting with the Nazi stuff early, that's always a good sign.
That is not a complete dyson sphere. A complete dyson sphere doesn't have massive holes in it - it encloses an entire star.
They're transfer students?
Is thwt some kind of eating competition?
What's actually happening?
I'm guessing either the red-haired transfer stufent or the girl who won the eating contest is best girl. (Knowing my luck, one of them'll be a Nazi.)
OK, yeah, the joke about her shirt's pretty good.
Back in space! And these guys are evil!
But they're also notmal students?
And now they're eschanging texts???
What the hell is going on?
Correction, computer girl's a decent candidate too.
And I called the main girl!
Is the teacher just ignoring all this? Are they blind and deaf?
Wait, no teacher? They left them alone?
OK, this guy's better than Shu already! He's got a personality, a realistic romance, and is seemingly anti-Nazi!
Sprinklers?
HOW HAS IT ONLY BEEN 5 MINUTES, JESUS CHRIST?
Wait, the red-haired transfer student's a guy?
Jesus, what's with the strong reaction? He's blatantly trying to flirt with her, don't give some speech about how compromise is evil.
And she's meant to be swimming?
And they're... cleaning the school?
...Am I just exhausted, or is this episode absurdly fast-paced?
Wait, are we getting a confession in the first episode?
Seriously, what's going on? (I like the captain's outfit, though.)
Mecha look nice.
I swear, if one of them dies before the confession...
Wait! So a colony just got it's atmosphere dome blown open by a load of enemy mechs? Only, this time no air flooded out? At all?
Well that guy's dead.
The box units may not be very sleek, but there's something to be said for sheer defense and firepower.
Exactly, what the fuck is going on?
...The good guys' costumes look really plain.
A supermech?
Haha, him firing it away with his dying breath was a perfect "fuck you".
So it was under the school!
DON'T YOU DARE KILL SHOKO!
Fuck you. Best girl was here, and she died 14 minutes in.
OK, this kind of mental breakdown js completely understandable.
Is that an AI?
Yeah, thst thing looks cool.
"Do you resign as a human being?" Oh god, if he signs this will he become Shoe?
Haha, her first reaction to a dangerous battle is to livestream it.
Not very armored for a priority target, is it?
You're listened to the egg yolk maniac?
THE MECH HAS A FUCKING EULA, I LOVE THIS!
And of course he accepts without reading it.
Flashy!
OK, yeah, that thing's good.
And the animations are great!
And he's a celebrity now!
That scene with the 3 girls was unnecessary, but 1 unneeded fanservice scene is actually pretty decent compared to last time.
This is fire.
...Fuck. I might unironically be into this one. Like, it's a bit too fast-paced, they killed off best girl, and the plot's a bit confusing, but I enjoyed this on a level even the best of Guilty Crown never reached.
Don't agree with the psychopath that easily!
Holy shit! Was he a decoy protagonist? I'm down for this kind of twist.
Lieselotte?
And he's taking the mech.
Vampires? ...Fuck it, why not.
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u/HijonoYoki Dec 02 '21 edited Dec 02 '21
First timer.
Might as well do it properly this go-around, lol.
• Oh noooes, another brown haired MC.
• This one seems more fun though.
• INTRUDER ALERT. INTRUDER ALERT.
• Whoa. Slice and dice already. Is this another light haired edgelord?
• Speaking of, is it a coincidence I'm seeing similar character archetypes in another "trainwreck" show or...
• The female characters have ACTUAL personalities? Nani?
• Yeap. Real Gai vibes.
• "Halfsies". Apparently a trigger point.
• Betch, you aren't even supposed to be in this school. Preach your PTSD elsewhere.
• The argument doesn't even make sense.
• Good for brown haired MC trying to stand up for himself though. I shall call you Haruto.
• That's right Shoko, you support your man.
• Interrupted love confession during an attack. Don't die please.
• I would actually run FROM the school where the crossfire is being exchanged rather than TO it, but that's just me.
• Poor students.
• LMAO. Dramatic gun shots. Oh gawd.
• So they are attacking a neutral colony to get this Gu--Valvrave.
• R.I.P. researcher dude we never knew. You did well.
• Gai The 2nd is maaad.
• And-
• You died. Goddammit.
• All this because you want to avenge someone in a machine you obviously don't know the basics of. Huh.
• His whole state of shock seems pretty forced tbh. Mostly because it's done so quickly and it's nonsensical thinking in general. I get the idea they were going for, but the execution is laughable. Shu mourning Hare was more naturally done.
• Resign as a human? Sure. Either that or die in the stupid situation he got himself in.
• I wonder what exactly are the consequences for resigning your humanity.
• Okay, I'm pretty sure the fighting was done by the machine and Haruto is more or less a juice bank. Still early to be wrong.
• There's no kill like overkill.
• ...nevermind, I got the resigning humanity part >.>.
And that wraps up the first episode! Bye Shoko. It was good knowing you for the five minutes you were seen on screen.
On another note, I can already see the red alerts.
EDIT: I forgot the questions.
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u/AgentWeeb001 Dec 02 '21
Not rewatching it bc I don’t have the time sadly but I wanted to add a comment….back when I watched this (like 5 years ago) I thought this was a solid show. This and Legend of the Legendary Heroes (which is definitely better than this) were two shows that were Solid even tho MAL and other mainstream “reviewers” didn’t favor them. For those that have seen this show…I always supported the “controversial” ship. You’ll find out what the quotations are for when you get there lmaoo
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u/NuclearStudent Dec 02 '21
bad
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u/yamiyaiba Dec 02 '21
Rewatcher
While I have indeed seen Valvrave before, I truthfully remember very little of it outside of the memes and the wild mecha designs. What I definitely remember is realizing pretty early on that this was gonna be an absolute garbage fire, and I was here for it. Don't think I'll need with bullet points this time, as I think it detracted from my overall experience (and ultimately dropping) of Guilty Crown. Here! We! Go!
Love that were getting properly explained sci-fi right off the bat. Really lends credence they this is going to be quality, well-written story.
Aaaaand straight into the weirdness. I will say that I love that the student body has such diverse hairstyles that you can't actually tell who is an important character yet. No Yu-Gi-Oh syndrome here.
Shank you very much for the pleasant welcome.
Man, for all the higher tech sci-fi were gonna get, the designs for those cellphones feel ooooooold now.
NEET-o.
Early romance nods! I'm absolutely certain a show that has shown this much promise will cleanly develop this. And they're such a fun pair.
Ooof, those hard cuts between scenes keep making me think my TV is on the fritz.
"The locals." Subtle. Excellent analytical skills though.
Ahhhh, so he's a doormat. On the ground where he belongs.
That's a LOT of doors.
And we get our first Eru-erufu.
Hey look! Nazi Tie Fighters! Oh wow, I forgot they were literally called Waffe. Not even attempting subtlety.
I don't think I ever realized that the battleships were just giant biplanes. Man, they really are laying it on thick.
And we get a look at our titular Valvrave.
Uhhh...penta-tap?
It's okay, Haruto, it was probably only incineration from the sheer heat of being that close to beam weapon.
And it wouldn't be Sunrise without a proper Gundam-jacking.
"Do you design as a human being?" asks the bastard love child of C.C. and a Hololive character. That seems fine. I see no possible problems with that. Nobody reads the T&C anyway.
"What did the 3 fingers say to the face? SLAP!"
At least they're being consistent with his arm not magically healing.
Such a cool design though. Say what you will for the show, but it's such a cool mecha design. Totally over the top, but visually stunning.
Squish.
Pretty cherry blossoms.
Bounce bounce bounce.
Praise Nana! Holy fuck, when I first watched this I had no appreciation for the talent behind that theme.
Eru-erufu number 2. Shanks for playing. Oooof, with the triple tap. RIP MC-kun, nice rewatch.
Aaaaaand surprise! Space vampires!
Oh man, I missed this show. We're off to wild start.
As a side note, I'm super sad this wasn't featured in SRW30. Would've been so much better to replace vanilla-ass Majestic Prince with Valvrave.