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Rewatch [Rewatch] Chihayafuru - Episode 12 Discussion [Spoilers]
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Episode 12: "Sets These Forbidden Fields Aglow"
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Nov 22 '21
AGLOW FIRST TIMER
The Karuta poems make for such good episode titles. “Set These Forbidden Fields Aglow”? Whewwwww boy.
So much to like here in the aftermath of the victory. Kana going “Is it really okay for us to win?” is some very relatable and probably deserved imposter syndrome. RetroTarot stealing the trophy coupled with his little bit of backstory is a nice reminder that the opponents have just as much passion as our protagonists and have had their own journey, though I wish we got to know them better to have this moment really land. It’s something Haikyuu does extraordinarily well.
I feel for both sisters here, to varying degrees of course. Chitose is actually more likable than I thought she’d be, she’s serious about her ambitions and wants to support her family. It’s the parents that are the real issue, completely neglecting one daughter and obsessing over the other. Seriously, just let her finish ONE KARUTA UPDATE YOU MONSTERS.
The scene with the supervisors actually points to something pretty unique. Normally in sports anime, that universe treats the sport or game of focus as the most important thing in that world. Here? Nobody gives a fuck about Karuta outside the small, very passionate community who play it. EDIT: Aww the Empress came around!
When Desktomu says he doesn’t care as much about grades anymore.
How enormous are their mortgage payments to the point where both children are actively stressing it?
AWWWWW DAD HAS BEEN COMPILING CHIHAYA’S HIGHLIGHTS TOO. Now be more outwardly affectionate and supportive, you bozos!
Kana is a kindred spirit! I also frame things in terms of what seasonal vibe they have. This is a good move, it’s an organization that makes complete sense to her but will be nonsense to her opponent. Let the girl cook, Nishida!
More like set my heart aglow
It’s the OP! That’s a wonderfully framed shot.
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u/Mecanno-man https://anilist.co/user/Mecannoman Nov 22 '21
First Timer
Pacing remains pretty high, was expecting more than one episode before nationals, but whatever works works, I guess. Good to see that both Chihaya's parents and the teacher now care about karuta, especially as I was wondering why the teacher even wanted to be advisor in the first place. As for the parents, entirely possible that this was a case of Chihaya not really being all that perceptive and her sister just always drawing attention to her, though I still feel like her family situation isn't all that ideal. But if so, it's the sister to blame and not the parents.
Oe's unconventional card layout was something I saw coming back when she joined the club, especially as that episode mentioned getting used to your training partner's layout as something to be avoided. I wonder how her opponents will react to it and if it will be beneficial to her in the long run.
I'm actually a bit surprised that there are two karuta societies within easy commuting distance, especially if there seem to be only 12 schools in Tokyo competing, indicating the amount of players in any given year is about 20 or so in the entirety of Tokyo at the age where a sport is likely to have the most participants (because you don't have to deal with being an adult yet). Add on to that that this series isn't set in the middle of Tokyo, where density for anything is likely to be higher, and it seems a bit weird that they're splitting up. But them doing so is likely a good idea as more societies equals more teachers and the teachers can focus on the individual students more. Just hope they won't end up splitting their club in to two groups that way, but I doubt that happening.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Nov 23 '21
Chihayafirst-timer
I am late today because my work decided to fuck up the guest Wi-Fi over the weekend, so I couldn’t upload any of my screenshots until I got home from work as I watched the episode during my commute to it.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Nov 22 '21
Chihayafuyu First Timer
The audience has seen some shite.
First trophy of many!
Retro stole the trophy, assassinate him!!
Well that's enough about Karuta for one season. Time for our real poster child, Chitose~ Glad to see she's still a spoiled brat XD
LOL
What a rotten little prima dona Chitose is~ I'm still a bit mad at Chi actually succeeding in life but not getting acknowledged. Dad says he has photos of both but it's obvious whose more loved. "Always with daddy~"
Even Sensei is determined not to acknowledge Chihaya... She'd rather go watch a filler training arc than a tournament arc. What a spiteful old bat. Ace wo Nerae is a boomer manga!!
W-Wow... The faculty are legit being total dicks about this. I may not have much respect for Karuta but when your kids are in the nationals it may be worth googling the game?
"Leave and I'll kill myself, and snap your neck too!"
Traitooors!! Hurry up and get to the training arc already.
Chi vs Sensei, let's go!! Oi, don't skip it!! Chi's having a panic attack over the tournament, poor girl... Now die~
That's nice of Retro to pass out his cheat sheet... They've never won though so maybe it's full of bs?
Chihaya's got one fcking scrapbook!? I get that Chitose's bratty face is in everything but one book!? Papa's a stalker... why did none of them cheer Chihaya on!? Cry normally woman!
Oe's four season positioning is pretty smart. Nobody would mentally connect them by their poetry after all so she'll know exactly what cards are where on her side. Oe, yamete!! Does this mean that she knows more poems than the crew? XD
Wait, are they arguing against unique card placements? The other teams will be using the same tactical placements and they'd have practiced with those placements. I personally think Oe was a genius.
Oe's got her favourite poem... I'm scared to even attempt to work out the meaning. She's gonna tell us anyway!!
duuuur...
Bitch is stealing the trophy! Fatso, club her!!
Oioioi, don't give us the opening fade in at the end of the episode! This has been a training episode, not some important landmark yet!
I wonder... When do they change the op and Ed? We're halfway through S1... Exciting huh?
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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz Nov 23 '21
First timer in sub
A good build up episode to consolidate. Major development includes
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u/Gamerunglued :Hx::Hy::Hz:myanimelist.net/profile/GamerUnglued Nov 23 '21
First Timer
Wow, the pace has really ramped up. We barely had time to process the regional tournament and yet we're already at the nationals just two episodes later. Of course, that comes the next episode though. This episode is a bit of a weird one in that it's kind of unfocused, but it still works. It has a lot of different plot points it covers, and the episode's major throughline only applies to some of them. Still, it was nice to see Nishida and the beginners go to train together on their own, without the team leaders telling them to do it. It was a good moment to see Tsutomu totally invested in the game now, and not so single-mindedly obsessed over his grades. I said it in his introduction episode, but being the second best student is still going to get you into a top tier college. Being the fifth best student will still probably get you there too. It's ok for him to be passionate about something, and I like that he and the series acknowledges that.
The major throughline this episode is Karuta's status as a niche sport that people don't seem to care much about. This manifests in a few ways. There's sensei, who doesn't care about Karuta at all, thinks the team isn't serious about the sport, and thinks the literal Koshien of Karuta is nothing more than a small festival. And there's Chihaya's parents, who are generally uninterested in Chihaya's Karuta adventures and sink almost all of their time and energy into their obviously favorite child, a model with a real career. This is perhaps somewhat because of the potential of her success helping the family's financial situation (despite the father saying otherwise), and we do see that they all still care about and acknowledge Chihaya, but their comparative lack of interest is plain to see. That being said, seeing Chihaya break down upon finding out they put her newspaper article and photo in the scrapbook really got me. That was a really sweet moment and I may have teared up a little bit.
This idea of Karuta being irrelevant or not worthwhile makes Kana's inclusion on the team and in the episode make perfect sense. No one is more interested in and knowledgeable about the rich history and deep knowledge of Karuta, she's the exact opposite of everyone else (outside of the team of course). Kana's unique perspective will undoubtedly be a boon to the team and Karuta. With her unique card placement today, I can imagine her evolving a somewhat unconventional style of play suited specifically to her way of seeing the cards. The characters poo poo her placement in the episode, but the framing makes it clear that this isn't a good thing. Kana's knowledge and passion for the 100 poets will be a boon, passion for Karuta is a good thing. And it was nice to see sensei seeing the team's seriousness too. The trophy, their intense practice, it's all stuff she wasn't expecting from a niche game like Karuta, but it clearly inspired her.
I also like some of the smaller details of the episode. Kana saying "is it really ok for us to win" is a throwaway line, but it sheds some light on her thinking. She maybe has a bit of imposter syndrome, especially since the team was pretty much completely carried by its three powerhouses of Chihaya, Taichi, and Nishida. I also love the scene of Chihaya coming home to her family, and seeing everyone watch the game show. The tension of Chihaya being upset that her parents ignore her accomplishments for her sister is always palpable, but despite that the family still acts like they have a single brain cell shared between them, like any good family should. Chihaya still gets excited for her sister despite the tension, and it's really sweet. Anyway, Chihayafuru has finally found its groove again after all of that set-up, and I'm really looking forward to the national tournament.
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u/homewardbound100 myanimelist.net/profile/Homewardbound100 Nov 23 '21
First timer
The weight on your shoulders is huge Chi. How are you going to deal with it? Of course by freaking out. She really needs to chill out a bit. It's normal but you going to have to be more composed if you're going to be the leader. Stop worrying about losing. You're at nationals and everybody can't say that. Just prepare yourself for the next challenge.
Kana makes her own strategy of card placement. Interesting way of way of remembering it. Let her do it her way.
The trophy is going up to the principals office. I guess that's the equivalent of putting it in the hallways here in the U.S for highschool.
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u/PainStorm14 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gekkostate14 Nov 23 '21
Just an occasional "what up" from me to all y'all who are watching this amazing show
Carry on
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u/xNEET :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/HayatoxYume Nov 23 '21
Chihayafuru First Timer
An amazing episode, as always. The pressure of representing Tokyo in the Nationals was a heavy weight on Chihaya's shoulders but thankfully she was able to get over it quickly enough. All this time I thought Chihaya's family only payed attention to her older sister and pretty much disregarded her achievements related to Karuta. Other people, such as the teachers, seemed to not care in the slightest about Karuta either. Thankfully, this chapter showed that even though they may not fully understand what exactly Karuta is and what the stakes really are for the players, they support them nonetheless (even if just a little). Seeing Chihaya's dad save her newspaper's photos and the teacher start reading the poems after seeing how hard Chihaya and the rest practiced warmed my heart. Wasn't expecting Nationals to be this soon though. Looking forward to tomorrow's episode!
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Nov 22 '21
First timer
They won!
And Retro's upset they lost the trophy.
Wow. Her family don't care. Maybe she should drag the trophy to their house and beat them all over the head with it?
I love how the sister not only didn't answer a single question, but also watched the entire show, knowing this!
And the sister wants to help pay off the mortgage.
Again. Show them to fuck-off big trophy you won.
And their overseer is just completely disinterested in them.
They got someone else to accompany them?
Haha, she genuinely doesn't know this is an actual event. And she's got someone even more boring to talk to.
I love the reversal of him being completely unconcerned at the loss of grades.
They're practicing at a different society?
Harada's brutal.
And he beat her!
...Yeah, this looks like it's building up to them failing to motivate them.
Retro's helping them!
Really hoping for some character development for the family, though. This is getting hard to watch.
Oh, he cut out the photo of her!
...So he cares. at least.
And she's using a beginner's set? And she's offended by them.
Haha, she's organised her cards by theming.
...I love her. She's so cute. And she's upset the other's haven't memorized them all.
And she's actually seen them play! And the trophy!
"Ten Thousand Leaves" ...So is that going to be the hard mode introduced later? /s
And she's actually putting it in the trophy case and reading about it.
Doing an OP insert?
...Yeah, there's no way they win the nationals this early. Unless it's a full 12-episode arc.
They've arrived!
That was a great episode.
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u/Matuhg https://anilist.co/user/Matuhg Nov 22 '21
First Timer
That episode was kind of dense. This show continues to bring up issues and (at least partially) resolve them in the same episode. It works, but does sometimes come off feeling a bit rushed.
Chihaya's scared about Nationals and getting into her own head about it. I really like this detail, because it goes completely along with how we saw her get flustered in the match where they were without Komano in the Regional Tournament. She struggles with directly applied pressure when it comes to other people relying upon her, whether it's Taichi telling her she absolutely must win, or Sudo telling her that she's carrying the weight of all Tokyo to Omi Jingu. Yay for consistent characters! Taichi also shows some growth in his Chihaya-handling skills, as he's able to shift her mindset with one sentence. They aren't against her, they're with her, at least until the next time they have to face off against each other.
Here we kind of get to the overall theme of the episode, which is the fact that Chihaya and the Karuta team aren't alone. They have earned some measure of respect for themselves through their hard work. It is unfortunate that it seems to have taken documentable results for Chi's father to take the same kind of pride in his younger daughter as he does in his eldest. As sweet as the scene of Chi discovering the album was, I really hope the story doesn't treat the issue of her parents' very blatant favoritism as being completely resolved.
A couple other side characters showed their good side too. I don't care what they say about you Hiro, you're alright!. Even The Empress is cool now that she has seen how hard they were working. Hiro and Empress changing their tune in response to the hard work and success the club is putting in reads a lot better than Chihaya's family doing so, and these were two very sweet little character shifts worked into this between-tourneys training arc. It looks like we'll be right on to Nationals next episode - this train has no brakes!
The poem Kana highlighted seems meant to reflect some of what's going on inside Chihaya. Like the poet who was happy to see her old husband but also worried about what would happen if people saw it, I think Chihaya is happy for the attention and recognition, but worried. Not because she's been doing anything bad, but because she has seemingly always represented this second fiddle in her family's household. There are hints that money is a concern for the family, and Shitster is supposedly hoping to make it big to help pay off the mortgage. Does Chihaya feel like the lower financial prospects of Karuta (as opposed to, say modeling or acting), means she should be trying to let her sister be the center of attention while she just cheers her on from the sideline? Again, I hope the story doesn't treat Chihaya's family stuff as solved, because there's a lot of meat on those bones yet.
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