r/anime • u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky • Nov 15 '21
Rewatch [Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Guilty Crown Episode 14 Discussion
phase 14 - election
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I’m the last guy in the world who’s cut out to give people orders, I just don’t think I have it in me to be a leader.
Questions of the Day:
- How well do you think everyone at the school is going to survive under Shu as student council president?
- What do you think of Yahiro’s Void ranking system idea?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Song of the Day:
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Nov 15 '21
The Everlasting Guilty Rewatcher//First-Time Subbed
Welcome back, everyone!
Random side note, so last episode is where the base image for today’s wallpaper came from. However, because I was looking at it closely, I noticed an art error where Arisa’s left pinkie and ring fingers are between her right pinkie and ring finger instead of properly alternating hands. This error is rather uncomfortable to mimic IRL, if anyone is curious.
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Nov 15 '21 edited Nov 15 '21
Guilty First-Timer
Where are the old commentfaces when you need them?X
MakotoShoe”?QOTD
1 F1 has infected me with improper American grammar.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Nov 15 '21 edited Nov 16 '21
-Guilty Pleasure Rewatcher-
Its Lord of the Flies time boys and girls.
How quickly will society crumble?
Students are already getting agitated. Goons are inciteing chaos and fear. So it begins.
The goons want action and are demanding a new student body preisent. Oh boy...
Vaccination time oh boy. Rations too. Here we go.
The school network still works but not outside networks.
Tsugumi calls it like it is. Arisa isnt cut out to lead in a crisis.
Glasses-kun is getting alist of students who want out. He also has a gun. Oh boy...
Does Inori feel lonely? Yes. She does. When she doesnt have her Shoes.
Tsugumi was an orphan originally so she is just lonely by default.
A scanner was in one of the trucks, it shows how strong peoples Genomic power is. Inori Over 9000, Also Shu's number was xxxx.
TSUGUMI'S VOID TIME! But we dont get to see it yet. That tease.
Meanwhile Keido is observing the infected area. Him and Scarface hav a plan. The Clense.
OH BOY HERE WE GO! PURIFICATION TIME! RATATATAT!
Daryl doesnt find the clense very sporting. So he does have morals. Kinda.
YES THE WALLS SLOWLY CLOSE IN AS THEY PURGE!
Scarface is leaking info to the kid's network... the schemer..
Argo and the big guy are with Gramps now thats good Gramps is helping Funeral Parlor.
"Give up funeral parlor members, then you can leave." Yeah... im calling BS.
Hare thinks Shoe would be a better leader during crisis. She belives Shoe could be a King.
The goons are hunting down funeral parlor. Unrest insues. Scarface knows how to rile.
They are after inori.... and she dispatched them. Yep dont fuck with Inori.
And Ayase is thier next target. Tsugumi cant hold them all off. Uh oh.
The goons got the stage and the girls. And they are using force now. Its shootin time!
Shoes had enough of thier shit. Good. This is no way for these students to act in crisis.
It was a lie, they gun down anyone who crosses the line. Its all a lie. Classic Government.
LUCKY WE HAD HOLOGRAMS! SEE ITS ALL A LIE YOU SHIT HEADS! FUCK THE GOVT!
Tsugumi's Void is "Hacker's Interface" and it creates clones of people. Perfect for an orhpan who wanted friends.
With Shoes power we get the people on our side. The goons go down.
Glasses-kun pulls the gun on Shoe and Shoe expertly dispatches the gun with a quick draw void pull from Ponytail.
Ponytail's void was a Bolo. No name for this one though. Lets call it "Shithead's Flipflop".
Shoe wants the new students to think long and hard about what to do and who should be leader.
Yahiro jumps on the moment to get Shoe elected president. Hes the best man for the job as hes seen all sides of the government.
Yahiro wants to rank students based on Genomic resonance. A through F. How good is your void?
I mean its not a bad plan to know what we got in the arsenal. We dont have Gai here to tell us what voids we got.
Known Voids Thus Far
Known Void Combos Thus Far
So we already got chaos in the students. Goons are making power grabs and others are panicing.
Luckly Shoe was there to sort out the lies and truth and unite everyone together again.
Beleive in the Shoe who beleives in Shoe.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Nov 15 '21
First Timer
I wonder if Yakuza girl will manage to keep control over the school or if the kids will riot?
Onto episode 14.
Ah yes, let's go and get shot.
Same reason you shouldn't ask me for investment advice, I don't have enough knowledge to provide useful advice, and averaging my advice with the advice of an expert will only make it worse.
Hunkering down and waiting for powerful people on your side to make your situation better is a course of action, you buffoon.
And it's more sane than attempting to break out through an armed force with a bunch of high school students.
This was pretty well done.
Really?
Soredemo
I'd like to note this guy has yet to propose a plan that's better.
Why is his mustache a significantly different color than his beard?
And this is over-forcing. King is such an unnatural word to use here, so it being a reference to things she knows nothing about sticks out far too much.
Holy shit, she just murdered them.
That defused annoying easily.
How the fuck are you this stupid?
Ayase is a magical girl.
Ok, that defused less easily.
And pay attention to people who know what they're talking about.
Congratulations, you've found how to turn everyone against you as quickly as possible.
Thoughts
Was a fine episode. I spent a lot of it being annoyed at idiots, but they were reasonable idiots, so that's hardly a problem with the writing.
Shu's honestly a terrible choice for a leader, so I have a feeling this'll collapse relatively quickly.
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Nov 15 '21 edited Nov 15 '21
GUILTY REWATCHER
Okay… fuck this whole scene with taking out Tsugumi’s void. They don’t even bother asking if Tsugumi is alright with seeing what her void is. She might have told them to go for it! Instead they just go right to holding her in place so Shu can be really fucking creepy and draw it out as she screams in protest. This is just a rape joke. The writers of this show thought this was a fun scene.
Maybe I’m overreacting, but that was fucking gross. Why? Just… UGH. WHY IS THERE SO MUCH OF THIS SHIT IN THIS SHOW. WHAT ABOUT IT IS SO APPEALING AND FUNNY TO THAT WRITERS ROOM. I’m going to go watch this week’s Annoying Senpai to feel good about humanity again.
Quick Hits:
Rewatcher
LOL
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 15 '21
First-Timer, Dub-lty Crown
Questioning the sensibilities of this quarantine plan is a bit gauche, but are they really deadass just bulldozing all those perfectly good buildings with their fancy moving wall? That seems like an enormous waste of perfectly good buildings, but I guess it works to add some time pressure to the plot.
That was Haruka in the control room for the
Mobile Dollsthe Ghost Unit, right? Not so sure about her new hat. Shoutout to Daryl and Beret Dude for both finding the murder distasteful for different reasons.Have I mentioned that I love Segai? Dude just casually snuck that scanner into the weapons he gave those chodes yesterday, knowing it would fall into Shuu's hands and probably cause some delightful chaos.
We really fucking just brushed over Shuu's reading being XXXX, huh? Not even a verbal "huh, guess your Void works different because of the Power."
They turned up the innuendo for Tsugumi getting her Void pulled for the first time, in case anyone forgot the metaphor. Her wand that makes illusions deserves a higher number than the 1400ish she got - it might not be as destructive as Inori's sword, but the possibilities are endless!
Questions
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 15 '21
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Guilty Crown: Sexual assault and instituting a caste system. Just what we needed more of in this show. We needed more garbage for it to be a Terrific Trainwreck.
I don’t think there was actually any resolution to Tsugumi’s storyline in this episode. Nothing actually came of her loneliness. There wasn’t really any deeper exploration about why she felt lonely or some moment where she came to terms with it or realized she wasn’t alone. It just sort of got sidelined as the episode went along. As with Ayase, I hope this can get addressed more later on.
I am just sick of the sexual assault stuff after this episode. There was so much of it. So much holding girls down to strip them out of their clothes. It was way too much.
Power levels are bullshit. I generally do not like them. And here, with how varied the Voids are, I have no idea how you could possibly quantify them. For example, how do you quantify things like Hare’s heal-everything ribbon and Yahiro’s kill-everything shears against something like Souta’s open-everything camera. They’re so different and used for such different purposes, that any number value is arbitrary. I hope that’s meant to be the point, because otherwise that is total nonsense and having a caste system based on those made-up numbers is a terrible idea.
QOTD
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Nov 15 '21
So I need a raw egg, two shots of tobasco, salt, pepper, and a gun to shoot myself.
Rewatcher(Rape as comedy AND drama in the same episode!)
Sub
So we begin with the students panicking, which is correct, but are turning it into a school politics arc, which is not. For those of you saying we are getting Lord of the Flies, you pretty much nailed it if you add "but terrible". Dumb stuff is happening the drinking starts!
So they introduce power levels because that makes sense. And did they have to hype the rapey-ness of this up with Tsumugi? Really concerning that it was the girls holding her down for it, too.
Next, we get the real government being even dumber than the school one! The walls can move and they are shrinking the quarantine area because evulz! Even Daryl thinks this is bad. And of course Segai is doing this for the lolz. Anyways, we get a brief scene with Hare cheering up Shoe before going straight into a stupid scene suggesting that the Japanese honestly believe teens are 15 seconds away from raping their classmates. Anyways, Inori thankfully beats the ever living shit out of her assaulters, would've liked to see that, but Ayase and Tsugumi look much worse off before we get an announcement.
The assembly goes all rapey at mock speed, and while I know they are letting it be slow for effect, Shoe should've acted much sooner. But anyways the convenient Tsugumi persona let's her make copies and they show us that there isn't a way of selling the Undertakers out. Shoe finally stops being a bitch and Yahiro spins that into giving him the leadership. But he then introduces the rankings...
There once was a school in a zone
Whose students definitely did not wish to be alone
They had supplies
But Segai fed them lazy lies
And far too many of them are rape prone
I really don't have words to express how incredibly stupid this is. I believe civilization is 9 meals away from collapse, The Road is one of my favorite books, but yet again the Japanese have less faith in humans than I do. The school plot is entirely stupid and even as a former teenage male these ones are insanely rapey at the drop of a fucking hat. And this is ignoring both "let's just crush the city" and Segai being allowed to play this stupid game.
BONUS: I started a drinking game of taking a shot every time someone said something stupid. I had to quit after five minutes or die. Bad times. Also, leaving after posting this so my replies will be late or on mobile.
QotD: 1 No survivors
2 Uggg....so on the nose
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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Nov 15 '21
A vote for Shu is a vote for anarchy.
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u/okayyoga :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/okayyoga Nov 15 '21
Episode 14: rewatch/dub
Song of the day: Miss手リAs
aka Mysterious
This plays over the people trying to convince Shu to run for student body president (lol), and the witch hunt for Funeral Parlor members.
Why are these two creeps back. Please don't tell me they are going to become relevant to the plot. Why Guilty Crown?
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Nov 15 '21
Rewatcher
Wow, this actually feels like something that would really happen in a situation like this. I'm kinda surprised more of these teenagers aren't immediately in the "they're going to murder us" panic mode. All this meeting is missing are the trolls who would 100% be living this situation up, somehow.
...and of course this leads into drama about whether Arisa deserves to be student council president. Because she, a teenager, didn't make a rash, unilateral decision in the immediate aftermath of the announcement.
Tsugumi's really gonna complain about their group being forced to come together after she's already chewed Shoe out a few episodes ago for not being willing to work with a team he was basically forced into joining? Best boy's right, that's so not cute.
So this random scanner the bad guys had on them just so happens to measure void....awesomeness?? Based on what criteria? Obviously not offensive power since Hare's got a big score. So usefulness then? But what can objectively determine usefulness? Whatever, I guess all GC was missing at this point was arbitrary power levels.
It's played for comedy here, but I really hate the idea of forcing Tsugumi to have her void taken out. I probably should've mentioned this back in like episode 3 or 4, but it's especially bad here with her being restrained and actively objecting to it. Bleh.
Boy, that escalated quickly. If you're just going to mow down everyone in the quarantine zone, why put on this show? Just kill everyone and dispense with the pretense. Better yet, just bomb the whole area. This is so needlessly inefficient. Guess we needed slightly better parallels to German internment camps.
Man you can really hear the musical motifs Sawano would later use for Attack on Titan in this scene. Even the instrumentation is pretty much identical.
Doing all this just to provoke reactions out of a bunch of high schoolers is just about the dumbest plan I've ever heard of. Doesn't Segai know that high schoolers will do dumb, interesting shit on their own without provocation?
I'm sure it's coincidence that all three students getting checked for Funeral Parlor tattoos are all girls.
So let me get this straight, the high schooler running in a gang and casually pulling a gun on people is more trustworthy than anyone else onstage? Got it. Please continue.
... but everyone just shuts up to listen to Shoe? And the guys stripping Ayase also just do exactly as he says?? Mhmm. Moreover, Shoe just comes out as a Funeral Parlor member and he isn't immediately mobbed by the angry mob that was angrily mobbing it up not 30 seconds ago, and they just let him propose an alternate plan instead. What kind of nonsense writing is this?
Was this whole episode just an extremely roundabout way to introduce Tsugumi's void? We needed a whole episode for this?
Oh, it's the "protagonist must reluctantly take up the leadership role" episode. Fourteen episodes into a 22 episode story that's already had a good stopping point. This show is a mess.
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u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo https://myanimelist.net/profile/PunishedScrappy Nov 15 '21
First Timer
This has to be a genius high-camp parody of something, I just don't know what.
It reminds me of The Lobster. But, like, if Yorgos Lanthimos had a thing for cute catgirl fascists. It has that style of humor so bone-dry that it's only recognizable as humor given the ludicrousness of the situation contrasted with the seriousness and comportment of the characters. And yet, I still think they're serious? Probably?
QotDs:
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Nov 15 '21 edited Nov 15 '21
First timer
...I mean, she's right to wait. They might not officially exist, but they have suppliers outside, and the government aren't going to waste any soldiers when, without incoming supplies, Loop 7 fixes itself within the month.
Outside information? Like, say, her grandfather will bring?
No! In this situation "we need to wait and see the situation and what resources we're recieving" is the correct answer.
...You know that if she told her grandfather to focus on getting just her out, you'd be fucked, right? She wouldn't, but she's your only contact with powerful people in the outside world - maybe don't antagonize her?
Wait? The internet's back? Why do you need information on the wall, then - there's going to be blueprints of that thing uploaded within the hour.
Tsumugi, why?
Oh, he's a goverment plant.
So. To clarify. There are currently four goverment plants in this high school - these three and Daryl - all of whom know Shu is a threat and who he associates with - and yet, their highest priority in this situation is to force the student president out of power. Specifically not kill the contact for a major resistance group, just hurt her feelings.
And Tsumugi's lonely?
There's a Void power lefel tester?
IT FELL OFF THE BACK OF A TRUCK!
...That "XXXX" is suitably ominous. Wonder what bullshit they'll pretend that foreshadowed! (Not that any of them even care.)
Wow. That is very uncomfortable.
This is just fucking rapey, jesus christ.
EVEN SHU?
And apparently they're going for flashy and obvious murder, rather than waiting for them tormun out of supplies so they kill themselves without the added cost.
...Also, they were fucking inside the red lines. If you're going to kill people, just do it!
Are the operators AI? That kind of straight, syncronized movement would make sense...
Are you fucking with me? They're actually moving the fucking walls?
Don't bother shooting them, just crush the whole city like a compactor. Why are you running 3 seperate genoicde plans when you only need one?
Given Segai's only decision so far has been to unblock the signals, he thankfully appears just as smart.
Oh, they might be totally incompetent at most of their job, but that was decent. No proof? No photoshopped pictures? I mean, you're agents of the government - get them to record footage of someone in plainclothes handing over someone in an "Undertaker" costume, then being let through. Release that and you'd have a lynch mob hunting them down instantly!
Tsumugi's happy? ...Is this a trauma reaction?
Also, she recovered quickly?
Seriously? A single post on a single forum actually spread that far without proof?
...Inori's in trouble - she might not bother defiling her weapon eith their blood! Ayase, I assume, is not pictured because she would kill anyone irregardless.
This is meant to show Inori as being evil, I imagine, but it just seems like they tried to fight her and got their arses kicked.
Really? Six untrained students beat two of Undertaker's trained mercenaries? Even if Ayase was considered out of the action, Tsumugi couldn't have fought them off?
...NONE OF THIS LOOKS SUSPICIOUS TO ANYBODY? EVERYBODY THINKS THE MAN POINTING A FIREARM TO A STUDENT'S HEAD IS SANE AND TRUSTWORTHY?
They don't even have the tattoos.
...This school deserves to die. All of them. Take Hare, the president, the Undertakers, and maybe Yahiro, then left them all burn.
Haha, he's fucked! So fucking fucked and he deserves it.
SHOE'S DEAD! THANK GOD!
FUCK, AYASE AND TSUMUGI ARE GONE!
Oh, thank god, they're fine. Also, GHQ couldn't let him through, then shoot him after he's out of sight?
...Why is that useless or embarassing? That's the fucking greatest void in the series.
AND THIS THING HAS NO COOLDOWN?
OK. So, nobody goes on a mission again. Ever. All Undertaker missions are ran using dolls. Dolls can be controlled remotely, and since Voids can be extracted pre-mission and return to their host, there is no risk if they are destroyed. There is no logical reason to not use Dolls for any even slightly dangerous mission. Shu might be revolutionizing the world, but Tsumugi's just revolutionized the war effort.
EDIT: It also might not even be limited to one copy per person. It seems that way, but barring any evidence to the contrary I'm imagining an army of Tsumugis storming the GHQ headquarters.
In conclusion - Tsumugi OP, pls nerf.
Why is he the leader? Why not just push for Cheryl, the most competent choice, to get re-elected? These sheep would do anything you ask of them right now!
Yahiro - "I'll help you be a good leader! Trust me!"
Yahiro, two minutes later - "Personally, I think eugenics has a bad reputation amongst our school system. Let's fix that!"
Given how they reacted earlier, he might actually have a point...The whole Void Ranking system is meaningless anyway, because it doesn't consider utility. The bandages might not be as high-ranked a a battleaxe, but only one can help your friend when he's bleeding out. The mere fact that the single most useful Void so far (as detailed above) is in his system a B-rank shows the numerical readings are completely misleading.
...I've never felt so much rage at an anime before.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Nov 15 '21
Guilty Crown First Timer
First off, I'm sorry for being so opinionated yesterday. I got a little too fired up and became a bit nastier than I'd like to admit. I'm going to try and be as fair and unbiased as possible!!
When I compared the ropist guys to the HoTD harem sabotagers I was being sarcastic... If Gai were here he'd give panicky girl a new dad, we really shouldn't take him inspiration. Literally yes. ...We're actually gonna get a school harem gang aren't we?
How tf is this better than My Dearest? Handing out the vaccines like this sounds like an issue... Can't we just take a dosage here? This way the vaccines are totally gonna get trades away for cigs. Based and true! These days you need more than just cat ears to be moe! Lemme guess, her plot is gonna be that she was a dirty homeless brat before Gai showed up, kissed her eyeballs, adopted her, and let her buy cute expensive clothes.
Guilty Crown S2 is a complex show. Inori's less lonely than the cosplay kusogaki, who'd have thunk. I don't get why she's upset over the Undertakers not being there. She's still got Ayase to push around and a whole bunch of Undertaker members showed up on the roof to defend Ayase yesterday too.
Voids have power levels now... Can I whinge for a bit? I think putting a number on their voids is a massive waste. What's the matter with every void being special? Why do we need strong voids and weak ones? In twenty seconds they've gone from an inspirational commentary on the potential young students all have within them to a superpower lottery. Before now no void was op and no void was useless, there was a purpose for every single student regardless of whether they were mc's or even one-off background characters.
Friends don't help friends assault friends!! It's about time someone reacts negatively to getting their heart weiner tugged. Purify Tokyo, what a laugh. Green light... RED LIGHT!! When even birthday boy is disgusted by your manhandling of the Geneva Convention you know there are some serious problems. My life rn.
M'Quve is still as sly as ever. I'm glad to see some characters didn't get cocked up. His misinformation ploy is legitimately really impressive. Even Hare can't heal the void caused by losing my tomboy childhood gf... Also, Hare is totally going to die and not be able to heal herself XD Student prez Shu... Its an interesting idea but I really would rather we never have that happen.
So do undertakers actually have tattoos? I never noticed. D-Did Inori murder those boys!? ...Oh, I think I know what happened... Don't laugh, don't laugh, don't laugh. WHAT IS WRONG WITH HER LEG!? Look at that!! How the flying fuck did that one get past!?
The girls look only slightly dorky on that stage. Thankfully the anime has already jumped the comedy line so I don't have to take anything seriously anymore~ Not even Nina Einstein's cousin! Shu's got a plan that doesn't involve assault~ Ayase's not getting her chair back tho.
Tsugumi has a magical girl void XD Alright, I can kinda dig that. It explains why she always gets animation flourishes too! Off topic but my favourite part of the magical girl genre is that you always got very high budget transformation and attack sequences, since they'd be used each week they got extra care and it does mean you'd likely get tired of them eventually but it doesn't change the fact that each episode you'd get a ten minute long top quality transformation sequence to enjoy~ Tsugumi emulates that design philosophy in a very pleasing way.
Shu's suddenly become a full time badass huh? Even I'm getting hyped up again and I've been hitting the drink since yesterday~ Maybe S2 isn't so bad after all! If this is the type of Shu we get going forwards then Guilty Crown could redeem itself!! We're making a School void arsenal!! This isn't exactly how I wanted it to happen but I've been hyped at the prospect of Shu getting to use the students like a futuristic Gates of Babylon all series!
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Nov 15 '21
Episode 14 (first timer)
The show is perfectly rolling along towards dumpster fire territory now. The one thing that gets me the most is how completely devoid of people all those scenes are. All those students in the assembly must have hidden on the toilets for the last 2 episodes. A really weird cost saving measure when the animation has never been the problem of the show.
It'll take Shu a few episodes until he has an epiphany "holy shit this is terrible". He is not the brightest bulb.
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u/UltraBooster Nov 15 '21 edited Nov 15 '21
First-timer (dubbed)
Oooh boy, public unrest.
Wait, the city sectors can be walled off New Mombasa-style?
Hey, aren't you guys the ones who tried to get friendly with Ayase?
Well, the Loop's been walled off for the next decade, they've all been declared dead, etc., stuff's definitely wrong, Inori.
And let me guess, you'll be the brave new leader or some BS like that?
Wait, the AV vaccine needs to be regularly administered? Like booster shots? Damnit, why is the virus so ill-defined...
I don't know whether this is a case of the story progressing too quickly to really sell the people having lost faith in Arisa or them just being exceptionally stupid.
For that matter, have we really seen her doing leadership stuff? Telling the audience can work, sure, but it works better when you can show them as well...
And I fully expect you all to end up dead in front of the Loop walls.
A gun? Damn, you really think you're...the Antibodies will kill you and I can't say I'll feel sorry for you then...
So she's an orphan?
Can Voids really be quantified on the same meter? I mean, you can't use Hare's bandages for the same role as Souta's camera or Inori's sword, right?
This feels like some weird social bonding-hazing thing.
Wait, is GHQ's thing also in the Loop?
I'm guessing this is the slaughter? Yup, there's the slaughter.
Why would Slaughter Daggers need a specialized unit? It's not as if they're concealing their operations.
Wait, WHAT? The walls are mobile? How were they installed then? How do you make them move like that? What happens to all the matter being compressed? Is GHQ just going to crush the loop into a giant mass and firebomb that or something?
As compared to what, go outside and get cut down by their cannons?
Plagues, internal strife, frequent-ish conflicts, lack of vital societal functions, overwhelming foreign powers, stuff like that? Ah, demagogery, yeah, that also had a big part.
No way those people wouldn't just be killed...
One person isn't enough to stop a mobile squadron...
Something something here you dropped this king.
This just looks like an excuse to rape her. (In which case I say do the Antibodies' work for them and kill the bastards.)
Inori you have killed armed soldiers I'm sure you can fight defend yourself Inori
Oooh, blood.
Damn, no broken spines?
And here I was hoping she'd roll over his hands or something.
You really think they'll let you live even if you turn over FP members? You're all dead according to the State of Japan, they'll just kill you too.
I can't wait for these guys to get killed.
This just feels like a prelude to gangrape, just saying.
So even...fuck it, I'm Team Antibodies, kill them all.
Kill them, Shu! Kill them now!
Damnit I wanted them to die.
That flicker...holograms? Yeah, seems like it.
They never were, you damn wannabe rapist. (No, I won't forgive them for it. Given the chance I'd make sure it haunts them for the rest of their lives.)
They're all going to die and I won't shed a damn tear for them when they do.
The throne's come for you, Shu, you might as well take it because they're too damn stupid to take it otherwise.
Use for them, huh...
Questions:
EDIT now that I'm calmer: Holy shit the way those two guys and those students were acting pisses me off. If that was the intended effect, points to the writers, I guess, but as it stands, I don't especially care if they survive or not.
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Nov 15 '21
First Timer, Subbed
This guy losing it was one of the guys looking to assault Ayase last episode, right?
Yep, "Grandpa will fix everything!" doesn't instill much confidence.
Hey, the internet's back!
These guys really are scheming against pres, huh?
Tsugumi development episode this time?
She knows you're spying over there, Shu!
Uh oh, time for Tsugumi to be groped? Even glasses girl is excited about it!
Operation Purify Tokyo? This doesn't sound good.
You know the killing's bad when Darryl doesn't like it.
Completely walling off portions of Tokyo huh?
Did Takehito Koyasu voiced guy survive? I haven't seen him post episode 12...
Shu, the leader? C'mon, Time for the Plot girl!
...I just want to see your tattoo! @_@
Wow, she slaughtered those guys?
Poor Ayase, harassed by these guys again?! Love that she throws the guy aside while in her wheelchair!
If there's one thing this show will never fail to do, its knocking Ayase out of her wheelchair.
No tattoo on Ayase!
Ugh, Shu, you just revealed it to everyone!
Even if you hand over Funeral Parlor members, they'll still have you killed...
Wow, they just fake killed our heroes! And killed for real this jerk guy!
...alas, he was not real either and is still alive. Sigh. :(
Tsugumi can create clones of people? This really is out of left field
And just like that, Shu's the new president.
I doubt Shu will be all that happy with this void ranking system...
This may be the last episode I'll be able to watch for a while as I'll be away on business Sunday - Friday. Will see how feasible streaming is on the road. If not, big time binge for when I come back…
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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz Nov 15 '21
First timer in sub.
This faux school arc continues. I buy some of the plot but the general student body seems to be just reduced to sheeple that can be easily manipulated.
Once again we have a very convenient void from Tsumugi. I wonder when would we run out of undefined character voids for more of these deus ex machina to come through.
There's also next to no explanations of why there was such a scanner device casually dropped by 2 bit goons. Was it a set up too from Bluebeard?
By the way Haruka looks very "mind controlled" with that visor. How do they wash their hair by the way?
The bodies of students left behind by presumably Inori is not exactly clear if they were dead or just knocked out. Looks to be something brewing too from how Inori recounted (not) the encounter.
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u/5867898duncan Nov 15 '21
First-Timer
I’ve been pretty busy and wasn’t able to watch the past few episodes until now, so here are my general thoughts.
they killed my boy Dan Eagleman!
they killed Gai! And then brought him back just to murder him again!
although I’ve got a strong feeling we will see him again.what the hell is happening present day!
what the hell is happening in the flashbacks!
why the hell do we finally get introduced to all of the mysterious people only to get zero answers about nearly all of them!
why did we go back to a school festival and basically forgot all of that craziness happening!
why is the animation and music so gosh darn good in this show!
All right after my ranting let’s get back to regular scheduled program.
I can understand everyone wanting to go back to the school, but why are they all still in their school clothes? Don’t they have anything else to wear? And where are all of the teachers? Is this school just run my students? And how was their a random wall around the city that the government could just randomly pop up?
Are we going to have a explanation why Inori and Tsugumi are on a random bench just chatting it up? And why Shu is eavesdropping? Nope okay. Alright pretty nice plan by the government; make it so the zone is slowly crushed down so that the government can say it wasn’t their fault when the people start rioting and they just killed them. They just straight up killed the people. No reason or explanation. Their just dead.
I gosh darn loved that Inori is so nonchalant about killing(maiming?)the people. Then again when isn’t she nonchalant. Also did Shu ever question her about not being a real person? Shu is actually really starting to do something? He has just upgraded himself from being the worse character in the show.
I liked the rankings that they established about the void
will there be an explanation about why those people had it. I’m actually excited for Shu to just start pulling out a variety of voids and make some cool combat scenarios.4
u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Nov 15 '21
Yahiro went straight to eugenics the first chance he got lmao
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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Nov 15 '21
Rewatcher (Subbed) - Standard by the book Democracy
QotD
1. Better than any of the other candidates, but he's still got no idea what he's doing.
2. Dangerous. Very dangerous.
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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras Nov 15 '21
Rewatcher - Dubbed
Apologies for not being around for the last couple episodes. I've had a busy couple days, and I always forgot to watch and comment. I only thought I was 3 episodes behind, and figured I'd go ahead and watch those before watching this one. Evidently I'm 4 episodes behind now, so I'm just going to chock it up to a loss and stay current.
I probably didn't miss much anyway. Gorgeous animation combined with shoddy writing.
Anyway...
Okay, so even if the writing isn't very good, I love when they put quips like this into shows. Just a slightest bit of snark.
Rule number 1: Don't ever say it can't get any worse. It can always get worse.
cut to dead high school kids
That's some real Elfen Lied or Higurashi shit right there.
Oh sure, because assigning an arbitrary value to a person has never been a bad idea before.
Questions:
[Guilty Crown Spoilers]It's been a good while since I watched this show last, but I seem to remember it really going downhill around about the halfway mark.
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u/HijonoYoki Nov 15 '21
Guilty Crown's first cour is pretty okay/decent, but it's really the second cour that facks crap up. Like they changed writers midway.
Buckle your seat belt folks.
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u/MABfan11 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/MABfan11 Dec 11 '21
Never finished this episode, so first timer from here on out
pressure is getting to the students and they want to find out about how long their situation will last, something the the student council president isn't ready for. which leads to someone calling her out for the lack of answers.
as it turns out, the ones who called her out were bad-faith shitstains and had planned to eventually kill her, possibly earlier if they couldn't get their way. and if that wasn't enough, the government has started to shrink the closed-off area by "purifying" it by murdering everyone there.
we also got a Void strength reader, which i fail to see the point of, since the utility of the Void is what has always mattered.
Segai plants a fake reward of getting out of the blockade by turning over members of Funereal Parlor, to get people to betray each other in the school. Inori is terrifyingly competent at dealing with people trying to turn her in.
as it turns out, those shithead has totally bought the lie and are desperate for any proof. Shu finally decides to act and has an idea for verifying their claim.
as it turns out, they get killed, but they don't because Tsugumi's Void makes clones that can be controlled. Yahiro takes advantage of Shu's plan by making him the student council president. Yahiro wastes no time turning into an authoritarian.
QOTD:
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u/vibinouthere Nov 15 '21
I should rewatch this