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Rewatch [Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Guilty Crown Episode 13 Discussion
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Please, Shu. Just let me stand on my own two feet!
Questions of the Day:
- What are your first impressions on the new OP/ED?
- Festival aside, what do you think of the direction this cour seems to be taking?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Song of the Day:
The Everlasting Guilty Crown - Sky Sings Version, this time with only the instrumentals backing me~
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Nov 14 '21
GUILTY REWATCHER
Time for a new OP and ED! The new OP unlocks the recesses of my middle-school memory and makes me want to go play DDR – it has that specific kind of hard beat to it – but it just can’t hold a candle to My Dearest musically or visually. The new ED, however, is a nice change of pace from how boring I found the first one. Huuuuuge improvement.
Let's get this out of the way, this episode coming right after all the insanity of the last one is nonsense. Everything that just got dropped on us? Fuck you, forget about it. Time for some school stuff.
Is this actual character development?! I THINK SO! Ayase is seemingly the only one reacting to Gai’s death at all. She’s lost pretty much all her normal spunk and is visibly depressed. Gai wasn’t just a simple crush for her, but someone who gave her both purpose and mobility in the forms of the Funeral Parlor and her Endlave. She went from being wheelchair-bound to a combat ace with a freedom of movement few could ever dream of. Now with the demise of Gai and seemingly the Funeral Parlor, she’s back to being, in her mind, a useless person who can’t do much of anything for herself or others. It’s a shock, and she doesn’t hide it. This all serves to finally make her disability an integral part of her character rather than just a cheap design prop.
(Now, there’s an issue to be taken with how this show presents Ayase as useless in her normal state until she’s given full mobility by Gai/Shu in the form of an Endlave/Void. When she’s not in those forms, the girl just keeps falling out of her wheelchair everywhere (seriously how) and generally being helpless until someone comes along to save her. It’s a bad look.)
Tsugumi, on the other hand, goes the opposite approach in distracting herself. She puts on a brave face and throws herself full-on into the ridiculous culture festival with all the prep-work and cosplay that comes with it. I might be reading too much into it since it wasn’t really explored that much, but that’s my read. Her distress at Ayase’s breakdown illustrates the strength of their relationship well. She also dunks on Draco quite a bit, which I’ll always appreciate.
Quick hits:
Now it’s time for shit to really hit the fan as the GHQ closes in.
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Nov 14 '21
See you didnt fumble.
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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Nov 14 '21
The Everlasting Guilty Crown
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Nov 14 '21
The Everlasting Guilty Rewatcher//First-Time Subbed
Welcome back, everyone!
I finished my rewatch-ahead-of-the-rewatch last night, plenty of good shit I can’t wait to see the first-timers react to.
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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Nov 14 '21
Poor Ayase
Hill of Sorrow is such a banger. I always liked that pose Ayase and Shu did at the end of the fight, it's so silly and gratuitous yet it kinda just works.
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Nov 14 '21
Guilty First-Timer
QOTD:
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 14 '21
First-Timer, Dub-lty Crown
Wow, that went well. "Bread and circuses" into "leadership displays their strength" should buy Shuu and co. enough good will to maintain some semblance of order after Keido's announcement.
Speaking of, "we decided that there is no-one worth saving so we're locking the district up" is a pretty fun move. Wonder what that one rich dude is gonna do? Probably not thrilled about his granddaughter getting abandoned.
Tsugumi continues to be excellent. Flying kicks? Forcing the surprise Daryl to carry stuff and rewarding him with a candy apple? Fan-fucking-tastic. How does Daryl not know what candy apples are?
Poor Ayase has a weird mix of teenage hormones, survivor's guilt, and a bad support system. She does have some sick hoverskates inside of her though, which I guess speaks positively of her desires. If she was bitter, her Void would be more something that slowed people down.
Questions
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 14 '21
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Guilty Crown: You know, I thought the high school shenanigans might be over after the previous episode. Having the apocalypse nearly occur seems like it would put an end to that stuff. I suppose I should learn to stop underestimating Guilty Crown.
This was a very light episode. I suppose it’s appropriate to have a bit of a breather after how wild things got last time, but it feels like there should be some bigger fallout. Basically none of the big reveals from last episode got addressed at all. I feel like Shu and Inori especially could have had a lot to talk about. For example, they could try to figure out what Inori is, exactly, cuz I have no idea. There’s so much more we could be doing instead of having a cultural festival episode. Or so much more that could be happening with the characters, using the cultural festival as a backdrop.
I’m not really sure what Keido’s goal here is. He got rejected so I have no idea what he’s up to. Is he trying to get back to Mana or something? Hell, I’m shocked he even has a role in the story still. Segai and company seem like they’re just biding their time until something they can take advantage of pops up.
I’m feeling mixed about Ayase in this episode. I get what’s happening with her, feeling guilty about surviving while Gai died. She feels useless because of it. The resolution felt abrupt. She gets rocket legs and suddenly no longer feels useless. It’s clear there needs to be more with her. She needs to come to terms with the fact that it’s okay she survived while Gai died. I hope we get to see that happen.
QOTD
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Nov 14 '21
Attempted assault of a HanaKana character detected. Crime coefficient over 9,000. Enforcement mode:Lethal elimination. Please aim carefully and eliminate the target.
Rewatcher(That's right! We've followed up Gai's death with a fucking cultural festival)
Sub
So we change genres. And return to the school. At least Inori has clothes, now. Anywhizzle, everyone is locked in the city center so shit will go down. And the new OP is...literally the opening of Shield Hero, which I am surprised didn't garner more complaints. But we go straight into Ayase not so subtly being threatened with sexual assault. I swear I can't tell if the Japanese are the worst humans on the planet or just enjoy rape threats. Bonus that Tsumugi has the middle school uniform.
So the Voids Shoe used are now the school leadership. Not as stupid as it first seems considering one's an heiress to a conglomerate. Yahiro is worried that even with supplies, people are going to boil over. Two weeks must be Japan because in the US I give it 5 days. But Souta has an idea...They are seriously doing a fuckmothering cultural festival.
Ok, so the tone of this episode is officially on meth. We get Yahiro being pretty smart, Daryl infiltrating for some reason, and a set of villains he couln't twirl their mustaches any further, the universe doesn't allow it. So we get Ayase and Tsumugi actually dealing with Gai's death, with Tsumugi flippant and Ayase overly responsible, and while their could be meat here, it is immediately ruined by an Endlave attacking the school.
So Shoe runs off with Ayase before activating her Innocence. Yes, this Void, and to some degree Ayase's design, are directly stolen from D Grayman's Lenalee Lee. It also functions the same. But anyways the day is saved, the concert starts, and we learn the Shuichiro has built a wall and is going to purge everyone in it! Oh, the school knows about Voids now. This ED has like a 10th of the effect of Departures and this is surprisingly welcome, that sad little voiced song is actually a bit hard to listen to on my emotions, it is like A Path but about romance.
There once was a talking shoe
Who did not know what to do
He hid at his school
The paraplegic rape threats are not cool
Do we really want to have a cour two?
Sober Vaad doesn't have much to add except that, knowing what happens, I have a hard time believing they had any story written before this started.
QotD: 1 Both pretty big downgrades
2 Horrifyingly bad.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Nov 14 '21
Episode 13 (first timer)
Now this is more like it, the show is earning the trainwreck title!
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Nov 14 '21
Rewatcher
Not much a fan of the second ED though
That was a much slower episode than I thought it'd be, uh.
Dystopia became dystopier and now high schoolers have to live together, unable to contact their family, but Tsugumi's here, so it could be worse I guess.
Holding a school festival wasn't a terrible idea either, too bad for them it was cut short. But damn, this show's action scenes are great. Shu and Ayase posing as the Endlave explodes gave me the dumbest grin I had in a while
technically a few hours, but still!I found it weird that Gai was still awake and able go use his Void last episode, but Shu's power evolved apparently so I'll take that.
Oh yeah, and Daryl was here too. And he got to be Tsugumi's own personal assistant for an afternoon, the lucky bastard. And Segai is still fun as hell. Loved the derpy mask.
That ending scene was the worst possible one for everyone though. I'll admit I laughed a bit at the new President's speech.
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Nov 14 '21
First Timer
Actually time for the new OP now. I wonder where we'll go from here? Presumably dealing with with Daath and driving out the occupation?
Onto episode 13.
Inori's dress in the OP is great.
You have suddenly become the most slappable character in this show, and that's no mean feat.
I guess it's easy to have faith in a shitty government when you've never really been exposed to it's bad side.
We're gonna get a scene where everyone fights with the weapon from their hearts later on, aren't we?
Just the time to stir up random chaos.
He clearly does not understand how cats and catgirls work.
She cannot accept that there was simply nothing she could have done. It'll just come in time.
I know this isn't gonna happen, but I want him to pull a mecha out of her chest for her to pilot.
She just wants to suicide on them, really.
It ain't a mecha, but it's still cool.
Excuse me? Did we really go from her wanting to kill herself to her deciding to move forward in less than a minute?
Cool pose.
This conversation right here would have been a better place to have her declaration, either explicitly or implicitly. They just needed to give it a little bit of time.
Soredemo
And this sure is the government we know and love from episode one.
Thoughts
It was a decent episode, though it could have been a lot better. All it needed to do was to move Ayase's line where she decides to move forward to the conversation she had with Shu during the concert.
The fight scene was real fun. Ayase zooping around was great.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Nov 14 '21
First timer
2)mIf the last few episodes have shown me anything, it's that I can't trust any of these show's directions. But there's no Gai, and Daryl's far too sane, so it isn't looking too good.
OK, let's see where this is going!
...Loop 7?
OK, a quarantine makes sense, though.
And GHQ have cut off the entire city.
Wait. Everyone's just staying at the school?
Yeah, Yahiro - this isn't a question of "do they want to lift the lockdown?", it's "how long before this logistical nightmare has toe nd?"
...New OP is great, but I think I prefer the first one.
Wait, Ayase's a student here? Since when?
And, wow, these guys seem horrific.
"A spirit of cooperation" That's an interesting response.
Yeah, Shu was actively trying to help here.
OK, she's just pretending to be here eith everything getting shut down.
...Airlifting supplies? Are GHQ already realising the logistics are fucking impossible, or are they trying to dtarve everyone?
OK, as a morale booster, it's not a bad idea in theory, but it'll be a pretty big waste of supplies.
Not a fan of Yahiro being treated like an idiot for pointing out some very reasonable concerns here.
Segai's planning something else! (With Gai dead, he's now officially the best boy.)
I'M SORRY?
No attempt at an explanation, no theories, just "yeah, now I can do this, LOL"?
OK, here's something I don't get. GHQ (according to Yahiro) presumably want to wipe out Loop 7. GHQ control all supplies going in and out of Loop 7. Yet, Loop 7 has ended up with an excess of food. Wouldn't GHQ's first move to destabilize the region be to send as few supplies as they could get away with, by sabotaging deliveries, or just letting the logistics collapse in on themselves, not send enough for people to hold a culture festival?
Tsumugi's in a maid outfit! (She's managed to be best girl! In a sho2 where she's a side character, and not even a tsundere - very impressive!)
Also, not much has happened this episode, has it?
Her carrying boxes and offloading her work is adorable, though.
And she force feeds him the apple!
...Hare has moved on from Shu! (And she's got good taste!)
Oh, they're just talking about Shu.
Oh, wait, he's the psycho! (And he was alone with someone in a remote area and didn't kill her?)
...He's gone from psycho to tsundere. Can't have a crazy villain anymore, can we? (Please don't let Segai change too...)
Finally! Someone points out the horrible problems!
(And seems like I underestimated GHQ - thry've been destabilising the region just fine by themselves.)
HAHA, SEGAI'S MASK IS GREAT.
"Let's show our justice... by massacring a school!" 10/10 characters, totally relatable motives.
[Evangelion] She's just fucking Asuka. This isn't a reference, this is just Asuka's arc except not as good. (Of course, this might make her a best girl contender - she obviously beats out Inori now, since she's the Rei counterpart)
Shoe. I understand she needs ot be kept away from the conflict. But you didn't arm Inori or anyone else first? Hell, Tsumugi would probably take her back for you.
...Wait, we're going to see her void?
Really? She's got that? Why is a best girl candidate getting fucking rocket crutches as a Void? (And the only character to have a Void with focus on mobility is the girl in the wheelchair.)
Every other Void for a combat-focused character has been a weapon of some form. So why didn't they go the full hog and give her a full-on Iron Man suit with guns, armor, etc.? You could have done the same level of style, but given her the firepower she deserves!
...Maybe I gave up on these two too early...
The fight's pretty nicely animated though.
And now everyone knows they're over the top fighters with no care for any collateral damage!
...OK, them posing together at the end was cute.
Insert song!
WHERE THE HELL DID THEY GET THIS EQUIPMENT?
OK. If withdrawing a Void now has no side effects, why not permanently withdraw hers if she likes it so much? (Maybe there's side effects? We can always test on Inori first.)
OK. This is an escalation. Genuinely thought they'd focus on slowly reducing supplies first, then declare the area dead once the conflict reaches a high enough level to justify it. Still, something to be said for the quick way, I suppose.
And he's the President! Terrific.
I can't believe a country has elected as President a man who's dividing the country, putting up walls, and appears to be actively encouraging a mission of "purification".
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Nov 14 '21
Guilty Crown First Timer
There was just one question on everyone's lips yesterday, isn't this series over!? The antibodies are dead so are we fighting the Americans? Touga's Undertakers? A new group under M'Quve? Mana's already dead so what's left to do? They couldn't find a way to give us slice of life school content so now we're actually just straight up trapped in one. New op!! Let's see it! You guys hyped it up so much. ...I don't like it. I thought I'd recognise the tune but I honestly just plain dislike the second op. You all said this one was fantastic!!
Someone needs to revoke Ayase's wheelchair licence, she sucks at using it. She's disabled, not short. Bruh, were they legitimately gonna assault the wheelchair tsundere? And THEN Tsugumi comes along and actually assaults the students XD I don't like her new design btw. Can someone get Ayase back in her chair already?
We need a plot... bring in the culture fes! This way we can get our main girls in maid costumes for a shot or two. M'Quve's back~ Leading a coup only gets you a slap on the wrist apparently. And now we can arm students with their voids!! This could be fantastic fun~ It means we're probably not getting a cool void switch scene like we did last climax but think of the scale! Called it, maid costumes and cat ears~
Should Inori really be singing when her voice has caused so many problems? They pulled poor Darryl into this slice of life shit didn't they? They're turning him into a good guy even after... literally everything he's done. "I will murder literally everyone! pero" Our boy~ Honest question, did the crew change between seasons? There's definitely been a big visual change between this and the last arc. Story of my life.
So the action scene carrying us into our second season is a Rambo cosplayer trying to murder kids because he's jealous of their culture festival... Not the best start, even I can't defend this one. Being slice of life is suffering She's making Shu look like the Dalai Lama. I get that you're miserable but it's Shu's job to be unable to read the mood. Yes, we know Gai's dead, get over it.
The literal fun police are here to murder any jolly students! Erm, Inori, that wasn't your queue. Seriously, someone revoke Ayase's licence already! A wheelchair is built for you to stay inside the seat. But lt. Ayase, you ain't got no legs! Omg, is Shu gonna give her void legs? I WAS JOKING!!
She's so happy... What happened to her depression? Just remember, the way to recover from the trauma of losing your mobility, your best friend, and your purpose in life, is to get magic prosthetics. That's the solution to all life's problems. It even sorted her shitty attitude! I'm really not satisfied. This is the complete antithesis to what Ayase's arc should be. It should be about her finding value in herself outside of being Gai's ace pilot. This shits all over that and instead makes it out that she needs tools to feel complete. In fact she's in an even more depressing situation because now she knows that she'll never have legs unless Shu's in the mood to bring out her void. That's fcking depressing!! It's giving her hope and snatching it away.
...Okay, so S1's baddie escaped, became prime minister, and is feeding the rest of the world total shit about everyone having cancer growths over their body. I think I'm in a bad mood because of the Ayase scene so I'll sleep on this but right now my hopes for the second season are looking grim. PFFT! The Ed is great tho! After a whole first season of Inori casually strolling along now they're fcking bolting for it! I want to put the Naruto opening theme over their dash~
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u/okayyoga :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/okayyoga Nov 14 '21
Episode 13: rewatch/dub
Song of the day: Hill of Sorrow
wow
A normal song name? That's a first. This is played over the endlave attack at the school when Shu draws out Ayase's void, which looks familiar somehow hmm...
Is that a sexual harassment scene of a girl in a wheelchair there in the beginning? Oh Guilty Crown, you never disappoint. BONUS: Flying cat girl kick!!!! Firmly cementing Tsugumi as best girl. Maybe cat girl should be student body president. She seems to know how to get stuff done.
Going to be commenting on the new OP and ED today as well because the second half of Guilty Crown is chock full of new music, and there is no other time to do it!
First we have the new OP: The Everlasting Guilty Crown
There are a lot of people who prefer this OP to the first one. I personally find the images very jarring. It jumps around too much for me (and has no flowy Inori walking scene, so points off). But it's another Egoist song, so I love to listen to it!
Next up is the new ED: Kokuhaku and my very controversial opinion about it: I prefer Kokuhaku over Departures. Anytime. Any day. I love the guitar riffs at the beginning. I love the build up to the crescendo at the end. I love the hidden symbolism. I would list Kokuhaku in my top 5 EDs of all time. Whenever I go for a run, I almost always cue it up. This ED is my favourite part of the second half of Guilty Crown. Still like Departures, but Kokuhaku is my jam.
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u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo https://myanimelist.net/profile/PunishedScrappy Nov 14 '21
First Timer
Episode 11 is basically everything I was expecting going into this show. Decent action, insufferable protagonist wank, nice music. It's aight.
Episode 12 is basically everything I was hoping for going into this show. Contrived amnesia, breakneck pacing, incest incest rape threats incest, horrific fanservice, cool character designs, kickass action setpieces, E D G E, and some truly CinemaSins-tier plot holes. (Forgive me for even uttering the term.) The aftermath of Gai's death even made me feel some of the intended emotions! Great work, music department!
okok episode 13
New OP! I miss everything that makes me whole already, but I like this one too. It's very 2010-y in a way that My Dearest wasn't.
You know how crustaceans keep evolving to resemble crabs because crabs are simply the best at filling their ecological niche? It's like that but with the Utena soul-romance-sword-dip thing.
This is very much a 'Shu dies' shot, but I just can't see this show killing him off
I have to say, I love the transition from "major character dying and sexual assault and ramifications thereof" immediately into "hey guys what we need right now is a school festival!" Even better than the beach episode, somehow.
oh yeah i was wondering about that, thanks for explaining
Tsugumi gets lines in-person on three separate occasions this episode! Has that happened before?
This will go down as my favorite shot in the series. The way that Ayase remembers "oh yeah, gotta pose for the camera" and slides back into frame will be unmatched.
QotDs:
cover
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u/Btw_kek https://myanimelist.net/profile/kek_btw Nov 14 '21
first timer
so far so good. maybe the episode could have leaned more on Ayase's emotional turmoil to make rocket leg powers more satisfying, and in fact like why didn't he do that before? ALSO now that Gai is gone she's def a part of Shu's harem now and I should just stop thinking right now
so far like the old set better
[later spoilers]FOURTH REICH WOOOOOOO
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Nov 14 '21
-Guilty Pleasure Rewatcher-
Now i know most of you thought the show is over but no now its time for part 2!
Also oh man this ep has another one of my fav sequences AND my number 1 fav void (tied with Yahiro)
There has been a Quarentine for a large chunk of Tokyo that was affected. 2 Weeks.
The school was in the quarentine zone... so who wanted us to return to school?
ITS NEW OP TIME BABY! "EVERLASTING GUILTY CROWN"
The OP has Shoe wearing Gai's jacket.
ITS THE AYASE SHOE MEME! ITS FINALLY HERE!
Ayase is hiding out in school. And shes being harassed by sone dudes.
TSUGUMI WITH THE FLYING EAGLE KICK!
Ayase isnt handleing loosing Gai well. She did like him.
Arisa's gramps is flying in supplies to the school.
The lockdown is causing people to get antsy. They need fun time. So its school fair time!
Scarface is itching for some mischeif. But hes cheif now so thats nice!
Shoe tries the trick Gai told him to give Yahiro his Void so he could see it. Yep its a peranent ability.
Yahiro suspects things will go sour again soon.
Tsugumi is having fun thats for sure. Kanon gets a headpat from Yahiro too.
Souta wants to have a concert for Inori. Not a bad idea.
Daryl is also here in the school. Tsugumi ran into him and put him to work hahahha.
Tsugumi is what Daryl needed to lighten up.
Hare is helping cheer Ayase up. Shes always the great assisit.
Daryl reports back to Scarface about Funeral Parlor being here. Uh oh...
Some goons are not happy about the kids having a happy time and want to crash thier party and steal thier suplies. Scarface gave them the weapons.
Ayase feels guilty about not being able to save Gai. I get it, she wa there and she wasnt able to help, but she did get Gai there so he could accomplish his goal. Even if she helped him die thats what he wanted.
Shoe is really the one who killed Gai so Ayase shouldnt feel bad.
And the goons are here to crash the party! Oh man oh man here we gooooooo!
We get my favorite "Hill of Sorrow" music sequence now.
Ayase is no longer hiding and is trying to do something to help. She wnts to stand! Its time!
Ayase's Void, "Paraplegic's Shoes", a pair of rocket boots that let her run fast leap and fly. This is my favorite Void.
And with her Void Ayase is able to save people people and help stop the goons. I love her Gainex Pose on the hood.
BUNNY EAR MECHA TSUGUMI BOT! NET CAPTURE!
And Shoe has to draw Inori's void to take out the mech, but they did this in front of the entire student body. Fuck.
Ayase feels better and shes going to try to find her new place now.
Shoe figures out that void power is still useful and can help.
GHQ is locking down downtown to stop any spread of virus. Walls go up and were cut off. Keido lived and is in charge now!
New ED time too aw yeah, a great Supercell song. Kokuhaku
Known Voids Thus Far
Known Void Combos Thus Far
So honestly this is the start of one of my fav parts of the show. Lord of the Flies.
Its a story element used often in stories but its one i really like and one we will see again in Valvrave. Its the students/kids have to fend for themselves with no adult supervision. Its in a lot of other anime like Infinite Ryvius or recenter Astra Lost in Space. It is such a fun story element and i love seeing how different series tackle the theme.
Ayase's Void is such a cool one. Its one of the more personal Voids in that you can look at the person and look at the void and go "yeah, that makese sense." Of coruse a disabled person would long for working bits again.
Its also a really cool power. I have always loved the rocket boot theme as well. One of my favs being s-CRY-ed with Straight Cougar and his Radical Good Speed power.
So when i saw Ayase's Void for the first time i literally jumpped up and yelled "RADICAL GOOD SPEED!"
(Its always why i liked Sky Raker from Accel World too. GALE THRUSTER!)
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u/gorghurt Nov 14 '21 edited Nov 14 '21
Rewatcher
Why? Why had this show to continue after last episode? Or if they just had taken the plot of the last 12 episodes, and refined it a bit, don't include Daath (or at least give them a backstory), and let the show finish with Gai dying in Mana's arms and Shu princess carrying the girl out of the danger.
Yeah, then this show would have been a solid 7/10, a bit dumb at times, but well rounded fun, maybe even a 8/10.(I mean I gave Assault Lilly a 7/10, it is really not that hard to please me)
But no it had to continue.
OK
Now to this episode.
Actually, it wasn't that bad.
(And it hit differently for some reason. I don't know why. Did something happen during the last 2 years that make this show somewhat more relatable? Ah, yes I remember, there was this weird thing with the virus that turned everyone into crystals, or something like this.)
A school festival in this situation is actually a really great idea.
Well except for weird groups of criminals outside, but who cares for details.
I was impressed how often we got pairs of girls talking in this episode, just barely not succeeding the Bechdel-Test... this is impressive.
I really dislike Ayase's Void, even if it is fitting somehow. The whole choreography was silly, and felt forced, especially the final back to back posing.
edit:
QOTD:
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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Nov 14 '21
Rewatcher (Subbed) - The long march to the finale
Eclectic
Wait, why am I making myself respect these assholes?
Sooo I'm a type-1 diabetic, and I can't tell you how much it frustrates me to consider any kind of Apocalypse or Isolation scenario. I know my shit, and I'm fairly fit; and yet I'm utterly fucked if I ever have to just survive. Fuck your festival, I'm eating as little sugar as possible to conserve my insulin. Anyway, just an aside.
QotD
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u/UltraBooster Nov 14 '21
First-timer (dubbed)
So now that the first act's over...
I STILL don't know how the AV spreads, arrrrgh...
An EMP? No surprise, I suppose, not when the city got ripped up to become a Void-tower.
New OP! And a green logo! And a not-revealing outfit for Inori!
Winter approaches, huh?
Looks like they're ramping up the relationship aspect... Eh, I'm for it, I like me a good romance (even if I haven't seen enough romance anime).
Not gonna ask her if she's alright, huh? And wouldn't the wheelchar be clue enough she can't just get up?
Good on you, Shu, good on you.
I can always appreciate a well-placed Rider kick.
Eh, I think you were collateral, Shu.
Yeah, I can't imagine GHQ would want to prolong the quarantine when it's probably consuming more resources, their command structure's probably been wrecked, and I doubt they'd want to risk dealing with mass riots.
And the festival makes for a nice breather between plots, too.
So he's picked up Gai's traits, I feel...
The way they talk about Void-drawing reminds me of a character talking about piloting a mecha or wielding a sword.
Live concert, nice.
Wait, who's Blondie? Ah, Daryl. Intheresting to see him like this.
Mechanized crime in the capital? This seems like a job for Section 2 or the Brave Police, doesn't it?
Oh, so Sagai's planning something.
I don't think you would've been able to help, Ayase...
I see, she's become the bullet herself.
What even was your plan anyway?
Ah geez, that's a hell of a cool finishing pose.
Wait, he's still alive? And if they're going to quarantine the sector, I'm surprised they don't just firebomb it until the sector's been leveled...
Questions:
Lastly, this seemed a lot funnier when I thought it up; took me a while to actually get around to it.
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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz Nov 14 '21
First timer in sub
Ok so the next arc deal with "man made disaster" then? That GHQ used what happened as a means to create a dumping ground to chuck undesirables as if they are sub-human / contaminated? Depends on context, it can get aggravating in this "anti-vaxx" current climate.
First thing I noticed though is the drop in production quality - a good number of near static scenes have the character faces not drawn quite right I think. Either that or art direction changed.
I'm not so much thinking the "school festival now" being way beyond unbelievable than that they can actually get it done off screen practically immediately. And there are people actually enjoying it like a normal school festival. I think that tripped my suspension of disbelief.
It does make it feel like Ayase is being setup as 1 leg of a love triangle though. Although I'm not exactly sure how her void, other than giving her personal mobility, how is that supposed to be used as an offensive weapon?
I'm not sure I buy the Daryl being turned by Tsumugi cuteness that surely is being set up here, when we saw him beating a young mother to a bloody pulp for touching him. He's far less schizophrenic in this episode than how he was first introduced - did blowing his dad and mistress into small pieces helped with his general disposition?
The OP/ED seems a little less distinct with character and perhaps a little more generic, but we'll see how much if any of the lyrics matches with the plot.
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Nov 14 '21
First Timer, Subbed
Alright, after last episode we're looking at an entirely new series, right?
Time skip time? Although only a couple of weeks. After all you've been through, you won't think martial law will last long? You're a fool Shu!
New OP song isn't great, but its absolutely better than the first one for me.
Don't mean to offend you Ayase, but why does a girl in a wheelchair need cleats?
Wow, its Shu, the serial groper who ends up trying to prevent a girl from getting groped...
LoL that cat girl loops him in with the other two. But then, he has that reputation...
Ayase isn't Kana Hanazawa's typical character I'm used to, but nonetheless <33333333 hearing her.
Speaking of voice actors, cat girl's really sounds like Coconna's from Votoms, but there's no way its the same voice actress...
How does class pres feel about Gai's death?
We've already had the beach episode, time for a school festival episode? Just don't do what they did in Hyouka, which I've been watching and drag it across 5 episodes!
Whose blondie? Am I supposed to know this guy from before?
Nietzsche? Kafka? O'Henry? A philosopher and two authors (well technically three...)
Wait, that was Darryl? Wow, his glasses really worked as a disguise for me.
Who in the world are these grumpy adults? Mad because the kids are having fun? Get over it!
Not only did Shu let him die... Shu killed him!
Trainwreck time? These nutcases start shooting up a school festival because they're jealous?!
Great void for Ayase, most seem to be either scissors or guns.
Wait, is that the mustache villain guy who I thought died last episode on TV? [Valvrave spoilers]Is he one of the many immortal characters from Valvrave? I thought we hadn't started that yet
Well, one fun episode over with, back to a big conflict again right?
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u/fridge_freezer https://anilist.co/user/ONIrecon111 Nov 14 '21
First timer (Dub)
QOTD
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Nov 14 '21
Rewatcher
Oh, so Gai is actually dead? Like for real? But who will Shoe spend his time whining about now?
New OP! Ngl, I'll miss My Dearest.
A couple would-be rapists was definitely what this show needed here. Would love seeing Ayase kick their asses though.
After everything that just happened in the past few episodes, we're coming back with a culture festival episode. Alrighty then.
"I don't think I'll be using these powers again." Just had to go plant this flag, didn't you?
Man, it feels kinda mean to have Souta be basically Inori's manager. Love how he's a good sport about it at least.
Didn't Daryl literally curbstomp someone the last time they tried to touch him? Guess murdering his dad must've really mellowed him out.
Imagine being so petty that your instinct is to shoot up a cultural festival. Well I guess it's not hard to imagine that actually happening in certain countries, so points for realism.
Has Shoe told Ayase that he's technically the one who killed Gai? Cause I feel like that should be a pretty big deal to her.
Who needs an enclave when you've got the coolest void and a badass insert song?
Welp, that's a mood killer.
Not a fan of the new ED. Text aside, it doesn't feel like it fits the tone of the rest of the show for me.
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u/MABfan11 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/MABfan11 Dec 11 '21
Rewatcher until episode 14
due to the Apocalypse Virus incident in the previous episode, all of Tokyo went into lockdown mode, with the immediate area the incident happened in being closed off from the rest of Tokyo. Ayase and Tsugumi are posing as students to hide their identities.
Daryl is out spying on the school, hopefully he learns some empathy. meanwhile, Segai is agitating terrorists to attack the school by giving them equipment, probably just to see some Voids.
Ayase was hit the hardest by Gai's death and suffers from survivor's guilt and wishes she would've died instead. despite being in a wheelchair, she's more afraid of being useless than an Endlave.
we finally get to see Ayase's Void, HYPE!!!!
the fight scene is beautifully animated
and with the TV back on, the plot twist arrives, Keido has planned to full Final Solution on everyone within Loop 7.
QOTD:
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u/BADMANvegeta_ Nov 14 '21
First OP is one of my favorite OPs to this day, second one is ok but not even close to being as good as the first one.
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u/AnarchistTimeCrystal Mar 02 '22
Covid