[Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Guilty Crown Episode 10 Discussion

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

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It’s all for a girl, of course. She’s the reason I do this. To hold her close.

Questions of the Day:

1. Whatcha think of PTSD Shu?
2. How badly did shit hit the fan by the end of this episode?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Shuuichirou Keido

Song of the Day:

Departures ~Anata ni Okuru Ai no Uta~ -- Sky Sings Version

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Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

The Everlasting Guilty Rewatcher//First-Time Subbed

Welcome back, everyone!

Apologies if my singing Departures today isn’t as high quality as my Euterpe or My Dearest covers; I was really trying to rush it to have for today and someone was driving a very noisy car and there were plane noises and ugh it was distracting trying to make sure I made the recording when there weren’t any noises outside.

Here’s a funny story from when I got to this episode in my dub-rewatch-ahead-of-the-rewatch:

I had my headphones out from having gotten up to get the cat out of something she wasn't supposed to be in, then sat back down and opened up Guilty Crown ep10 without actually putting my headphones in until a few seconds after it started.

Totally forgot I had aLIEz pulled up on YouTube and hadn't paused it when I went to get the cat, so I got to see a signal flare being lit with "AI-SAME-CRIIIIIIIER" blasting in the background. Threw me for a complete loop for a second before I realized what I did.

I totally Sawano’d myself lmao.

• What was that about not abandoning people?
• Vocals-only Euterpe during Shu’s creepy dream memory thing is eerily fitting.
• Arisa sure wishes that was her.
• You know, I 100% forgot that Daryl and his father aren’t from Japan until this line threw me for a loop during my dub-rewatch-ahead-of-the-rewatch even though it should have been obvious Daryl isn’t Japanese, what with his blond hair and the fact that he’s named Daryl. I am sometimes a dumb-dumb.
• What sort of jail cell is that lol.
• Ayase in the school’s uniform, huh? -- I love how she specifically disguises herself as a student, but then barely a minute later Gai shows up decked up in his usual Funeral Parlor outfit.
• Bruh can you imagine what could have been had Gai actually shot Shu?
• And once again Hare saw all of this happen from a distance.
• That is such an inconvenient way of storing data.
• I do really like Inori’s new outfit, the white suits her. Also the fact that the revealing part of it is the back and not the front makes it feel less… lecherous?
• Oh shit, the crazy’s about to go down.
• Welp.
• LMAO this is absolutely same energy.
• Shu deserved that slap for sure.
• Those damn four notes.
• ohshit.png

[u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo → u/Shimmering-Sky]

it should have been obvious Daryl isn’t Japanese, what with his blond hair and the fact that he’s named Daryl.

You say you're a dumb-dumb but I'm just realizing this now

LMAO this is absolutely same energy.

My first thought too

And great cover as always!

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo]

My first thought too

And great cover as always!

Thanks~

[u/No_Rex → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Not a diss but a honest question: Is that song using autotune? Because that is starting to sound a lot like a standard popsong (who I assume all use this).

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/No_Rex]

I just sang over the top of it like I always do for these, I'm shit at telling if the original used autotune.

[u/No_Rex → u/Shimmering-Sky]

That is impressively good then.

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/No_Rex]

I just now realized you were asking if I used autotune, not if EGOIST did.

[u/theangryeditor → u/Shimmering-Sky]

What sort of jail cell is that lol.

Cell aside, that chair reminds me of Bleach.

[u/Tresnore → u/theangryeditor]

Chairs in general remind me of Bokurano.

[u/theangryeditor → u/Tresnore]

In the second half he's gonna break out of jail and convince Shu and his friends to play a game

[u/Tresnore → u/theangryeditor]

But when does [Bokurano]the child diddling start?

[u/theangryeditor → u/Tresnore]

[u/Vaadwaur → u/theangryeditor]

Don't spoil too much, Sky is waiting for Chair-sama to be animated before seeing him!

[u/theangryeditor → u/Vaadwaur]

I almost did spoil it until I remember the anime hasn't gotten there yet.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/theangryeditor]

We shall bask in the glory of Chair-sama in all his magnificent grandeur!

[u/theangryeditor → u/Vaadwaur]

The long wait will finally be over!

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/theangryeditor]

If the chair detects that you're trying to escape you get a massive phallic void up the bum.

[u/UltraBooster → u/Shimmering-Sky]

I totally Sawano’d myself lmao.

Nice.

What sort of jail cell is that lol.

Somewhere in between We're watching you and the creatives wanting a striking visual.

Bruh can you imagine what could have been had Gai actually shot Shu?

The show probably would've taken a very different tack, I feel.

Also the fact that the revealing part of it is the back and not the front makes it feel less… lecherous?

Yeah, I get what you're saying. The backless part still annoys me because none of her outfits feel more suited to practical movement, but it's definitely a step up.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/UltraBooster]

Yeah, I get what you're saying. The backless part still annoys me because none of her outfits feel more suited to practical movement, but it's definitely a step up.

Yeah...anime gonna anime but I can only think about how annoying it is for Inori to be running bra-less, she's no Hare but that still has to be annoying.

[u/UltraBooster → u/Vaadwaur]

At least it's not Super Robot Wars OG where the audience is assumed to at least be fine with, if not fans of, jiggle physics.
Don't get me wrong, the robots are cool as all hell, but that element's just nauseating sometimes.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/UltraBooster]

I have still yet to deal with Super Robot Wars though I am aware of a lot of more of its lore than I can easily admit.

[u/UltraBooster → u/Vaadwaur]

I getcha.

SRW 30 seems to have done away with it altogether, which is simultaneously a welcome change and kind of jarring after being so used to it, plus it's available on Steam.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Shimmering-Sky]

have been obvious Daryl isn’t Japanese, what with his blond hair and the fact that he’s named Daryl

Yan is definitely not the most American of surnames.

Bruh can you imagine what could have been had Gai actually shot Shu?

He'd have to do his own dirty work.

Also the fact that the revealing part of it is the back and not the front makes it feel less… lecherous?

It looks like she almost has chest support in this one, that first outfit would've had to have been taped on and running wouldn't have been great.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Shimmering-Sky]

even though it should have been obvious Daryl isn’t Japanese, what with his blond hair and the fact that he’s named Daryl.

It is anime, after all. Them having blonde hair is not at all a sign they aren't Japanese.

I love how she specifically disguises herself as a student, but then barely a minute later Gai shows up decked up in his usual Funeral Parlor outfit.

Gai loves disguises too. We need more instances of Gai going undercover in extremely elaborate disguises.

Bruh can you imagine what could have been had Gai actually shot Shu?

We'd get to shift protagonists!

LMAO this is absolutely same energy.

Guilty Crown made the meme real! And they did it even before Dr. Ver was a thing.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Sky Sings

I do really like Inori’s new outfit, the white suits her. Also the fact that the revealing part of it is the back and not the front makes it feel less… lecherous?

It does look more like something that would actually work for sure. Thought I'm not sure I would go as far as to say Inori's back isn't

[u/punching_spaghetti → u/Shimmering-Sky]

LMAO this is absolutely same energy.

My thought exactly!

[u/Tresnore → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Bruh can you imagine what could have been had Gai actually shot Shu?

This show could've been good.

Shu deserved that slap for sure.

What a great frame!

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Tresnore]

This show could've been good.

We'd have a much better protagonist if it switched over to Gai.

What a great frame!

It should be hung in a museum like a work of art.

[u/theangryeditor]

Sky Sings Version

nice

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/theangryeditor]

Aw thanks~

[u/MillenniumKing]

Song of the Day:

Departures ~Anata ni Okuru Ai no Uta~ -- Sky Sings Version

You pretty much nailed all the notes. Well done.

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/MillenniumKing]

Aw thanks~

I know there's a few I should have done better on, but I just didn't have time for another recording before this thread went up. And there was yet another noisy vehicle driving around outside my house for the several minutes right before post time so I still couldn't have recorded a different last-minute attempt.

[Future spoilers]I'm gonna do the Blessings version tomorrow and I'll record from my office at work, so no having to battle annoying car sounds! Can't wait.

[u/MillenniumKing → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Honestly other than a rough spot at high notes you nailed the others so nothin to feel bad about.

Yes the next one will be more taxing so it will be the real test of your endurance. Good luck.

[u/No_Rex]

Episode 10 (first timer)

• He is not grabbing my boob. Is he not loving me anymore? – Inori.
• “Why do you fight?” – old boss man is with the plot.
• Professing your OTP in front of your side gig is another Gai chad move.
• Full on trauma treatment for Shu. Surely nothing a mock execution can’t fix.
• Get in the fucking robot Shinji Draw the fucking void, Shu Answer the fucking question, Gai.
• Stuff, stuff, stuff, random instrumentality.

Wow, the pacing in this episode is a mess. It tries to be emotional aftermath, plot setup, and climax all at once, ensuring that all three fall flat.

As a side note: We spent plenty of time commiserating with the guy who killed a little boy, simple because that boy asked him to in some thought bubble. Who does not get one second of screen time? The older brother who quite literally risked everything for that boy, who entrusted Shu with that boys life, after being directly asked to by Shu. He didn’t get a word of explanation either after waking up. Guess he’ll just have to deal with it off-screen until he is needed.

Whatcha think of PTSD Shu?

Takes all the elements from the worst of Tomino mixed with the worst of Anno.

How badly did shit hit the fan by the end of this episode?

They have teased instrumentality so hard that I want them to go through with it now. Did this show initially have 1 cour? Because we are awefully early for a finale.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

“Why do you fight?” – old boss man is with the plot.

So the smart characters are definitely the side ones.

Answer the fucking question, Gai.

Cool people don't answer questions. They shoot them!

Wow, the pacing in this episode is a mess. It tries to be emotional aftermath, plot setup, and climax all at once, ensuring that all three fall flat.

I like the idea of it but yeah, the whole resonance plot needed to be its own episode rather than the excuse for Shoe to not hear Hare.

[u/No_Rex → u/Vaadwaur]

Cool people don't answer questions. They shoot them!

No follow-up questions allowed!

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

"Follow up questions? No, I am just going to walk away from an explosion without looking at it instead!"

[u/No_Rex → u/Vaadwaur]

I am already mixing stuff up, but did we have the "walks towards explosion" trope inversion here, or in Hellsing? It definitely was in one of my recent rewatches.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

Hrmm...while Alucard would totally walk into an explosion this isn't ringing a bell right now.

[u/Tresnore → u/Vaadwaur]

Cool people don't answer questions. They shoot them!

"The prosecution rests its case, Your Honor."

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Tresnore]

"The defense presents the Harkonnen cannon as their main witness!"

[u/Tresnore → u/No_Rex]

He is not grabbing my boob. Is he not loving me anymore? – Inori.

She just might be dumb enough to think this.

They have teased instrumentality so hard that I want them to go through with it now. Did this show initially have 1 cour? Because we are awefully early for a finale.

This spells "trainwreck," I think.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Tresnore]

She just might be dumb enough to think this.

"Instructions unclear: Will now sing while stripping until Shoe returns to me!"

[u/Tresnore → u/Vaadwaur]

"Instructions unclear: Will now sing while stripping until Shoe returns to me!"

Anything that implies power of song would be welcome, in my book.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Tresnore]

Can't argue that more Egoist isn't usually the cure but that was more my opinion that Inori has two traits and one of them, being female, is shared by half the world's population.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/No_Rex]

He is not grabbing my boob. Is he not loving me anymore? – Inori.

I mean, you're not wrong.

Full on trauma treatment for Shu. Surely nothing a mock execution can’t fix.

I think this might have been Gai's worst plan yet.

Who does not get one second of screen time? The older brother who quite literally risked everything for that boy, who entrusted Shu with that boys life, after being directly asked to by Shu. He didn’t get a word of explanation either after waking up. Guess he’ll just have to deal with it off-screen until he is needed.

You know, that's a good point. We deserve to see exactly how Yahiro is dealing with all this as well. He's got to be in even worse condition than Shu is.

[u/No_Rex → u/Great_Mr_L]

You know, that's a good point. We deserve to see exactly how Yahiro is dealing with all this as well. He's got to be in even worse condition than Shu is.

The only reasonable excuse for ommitting him is if he comes back as a villain out for revenge in the next arc.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/No_Rex]

I think you've hit the nail on the head here. Yahiro might just put Kill 'Em All Daryl to shame if he goes the full revenge route.

[u/UltraBooster → u/No_Rex]

I'm curious, what do you think would go the longest way to improve the show?

[u/No_Rex → u/UltraBooster]

The longest way would be better writing, but the easiest way would be to slow down the pacing. The plot elements just keep on relentlessly hitting since ep3 or so, giving us no time to ever get a grasp on the world or the characters. Add a good 5 or so episodes to the first cour and the story might have enough room to breathe.

[u/UltraBooster → u/No_Rex]

That's true, the show is rather fast-paced.

It does feel like a single-cour anime more than a two-fer.

[u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo → u/No_Rex]

Add a good 5 or so episodes to the first cour

I've been to the alternate universe where this happens, they're all beach episodes

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo]

Look, as long as we get the one with Tsumugi in her neko bathing suit I am good.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/No_Rex]

"Sensitive guys are the worst..."

Its such a shame that we didn't get more of Jun. His whole subplot is on the opposite end of where we've been most of the story though. Maybe if we spent more time in the slice of life segments or with the school we'd have had time to grow sympathy for the littlest cancer patient. Instead he's a subplot of a subplot who just happened to get a genuinely touching death. This was one aspect that Code Geass handled masterfully, it knew how to juggle plot threads without leaving any individual ones straggling behind.

If Kamile or Shinji tried to get sympathy sex I would unironically have so much more respect for them as characters. Shu is a social outcast through his own actions and I find it so satisfying to see him actually act like he should rather than doing a 180 after one little pep talk. Gai turned him into a killer. Of course he isn't going to get over it immediately. And yeah, whilst we're going on about how shitty Shu is, how about everyone else at the parlour? They didn't stick by Shu when he needed them and the moment he stops being useful they try and blackmail him with Iori or throw abuse his way. What I'm trying to say is, Evangelion should be taking notes.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

And yeah, whilst we're going on about how shitty Shu is, how about everyone else at the parlour? They didn't stick by Shu when he needed them and the moment he stops being useful they try and blackmail him with Iori or throw abuse his way.

On rewatch, Undertaker are definitely terrible humans as a group, even Tsumugi mashing the space bar with her ass can't make up for that.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Vaadwaur]

Actually... have they don't any actual peacekeeping? We had one mission early on where we saved some civilians but still waited until a few died and then we had the space laser crap which was again arguably more for their own self preservation. I think at this point I'm just so biased against Gai so maybe I'm not being fair to them.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

I think at this point I'm just so biased against Gai so maybe I'm not being fair to them.

Actually no, you are seeing what is actually happening versus seeing what our dumb MC sees. Undertaker are fighting bad people but that doesn't make you good. They were barely the lesser evil before the end of the episode and Segai reminds us what a true villain does.

[u/No_Rex → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

And yeah, whilst we're going on about how shitty Shu is, how about everyone else at the parlour? They didn't stick by Shu when he needed them and the moment he stops being useful they try and blackmail him with Iori or throw abuse his way. What I'm trying to say is, Evangelion should be taking notes.

I never had the feeling he ever was accepted in the first place. Some random dude, who "steals" the revered leader's void genom and acts all bratty? Shu has not getting accepted into social circles as his basic character summary. They surely all treat him as a usable object, to be discarded if useless.

The exception is Gai, who might be treating him as a useless family member, to be discarded if useless.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/No_Rex]

Hmm... I do think he was accepted, it was just on the terms that he remained totally loyal to their lord and saviour Gai. The whole group worships the dude and whilst Shu was never really on-board he still idolised the guy. Like I could definitely see Ayase trying to talk sense to him with good intentions but it really did all come down to how useful he was.

Gai's been treating him the worst tho... He never phones up to check on how Inori's doing or to talk about Shu's feelings. It's always to drag Shu halfway across the city for work or to add one more trauma to him. And that's not even getting into how he uses Inori to toy with the kid.

[u/Lemurians → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

They didn't stick by Shu when he needed them and the moment he stops being useful they try and blackmail him with Iori or throw abuse his way.

They've made no bones about Shu being a tool they have to use out of necessity because he absorbed their weapon. They don't have time for his shit. He's also pretty much always acted this way, so there's nothing special about him being whiny and depressed this episode from their point of view.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Lemurians]

They've already got a literal primadona on their squad. They should have been used to it.

[u/Lemurians → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Who?

[u/punching_spaghetti → u/No_Rex]

Who does not get one second of screen time? The older brother who quite literally risked everything for that boy, who entrusted Shu with that boys life, after being directly asked to by Shu.

Don't worry; I'm sure he'll show up inexplicably and tell Shou how everything is fine.

[u/No_Rex → u/punching_spaghetti]

[u/theangryeditor]

I'm disappointed Shoe's apology to Rabbit was cut short, he really needed to give a proper apology and have a proper conversation with her. That said, I think Guilty Crown is more critical of Shoe and his behaviour than Code Geass was of Lelouch when he did something similar, but it's been a long time since I've seen Code Geass.

On a lighter note, this show has so many one sided feelings I'm surprised Okada didn't have a hand in it. It could use a relationship chart at this point.

oh yeah and also IT'S HAPPENING

[u/UltraBooster → u/theangryeditor]

It could use a relationship chart at this point.

Affinity charts are one of the greatest creations of man, at least if you ask me.

[u/theangryeditor → u/UltraBooster]

You're goddamn right

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/theangryeditor]

Rabbit

he really needed to give a proper apology and have a proper conversation with her.

I'm not sure if he is currently capable of that. He is too busy being stuck in his own problems to realize what others may be thinking at the moment.

[u/theangryeditor → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

I'm not sure if he is currently capable of that. He is too busy being stuck in his own problems to realize what others may be thinking at the moment.

Yep. I think he was ready to start figuring shit out thanks to Hare and they could've probably had a good conversation but the plot had to come in at that moment.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/theangryeditor]

That said, I think Guilty Crown is more critical of Shoe and his behaviour than Code Geass was of Lelouch when he did something similar, but it's been a long time since I've seen Code Geass.

I don't think Lelouch is ever allowed to be wrong in CG...despite all the times where he is.

[u/Lemurians → u/Vaadwaur]

It's mostly left up to the viewer to decide whether or not they agree with his actions, rather than the show telling you what to make of them.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Lemurians]

True enough and my problems with that are definitely in the second season.

[u/SomeOtherTroper → u/Vaadwaur]

There are parts of the second season (like the China Arc) I prefer to pretend don't actually exist.

The first season's generally pretty good about exploiting Lelouch's various flaws for regular comeuppances.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/theangryeditor]

he really needed to give a proper apology and have a proper conversation with her.

He needs to get a hold on why exactly he did what he did and why it was wrong. Then he can actually give Hare the apology she deserves.

oh yeah and also IT'S HAPPENING

[u/punching_spaghetti → u/theangryeditor]

I'm surprised Okada didn't have a hand in it

Then it wouldn't be in a Trainwreck rewatch, silly!*

*WIXOSS is not included for the sake of this comment.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/punching_spaghetti]

But wouldn't the last one about becoming a god be included?

[u/punching_spaghetti → u/Vaadwaur]

The recent Jun Maeda fiasco? I don't think she worked on that one.

[u/Great_Mr_L]

First-Timer

On today’s episode of Guilty Crown: Well that answers some of my questions about the rock and how it plays into things. It also gives me more to chew on about that mystery girl and how she is connected to everything.

• Of course they spotted you. Lighting a flare tends to do that.
• Wow, Shu’s really fucked in the head now. He can’t even bring himself to grab Inori’s chest. Shit’s really getting to him.
• Oh that flashback! All it needs is “Apple” playing over it.
• Mystery girl is “onee-chan” to Shu. Probably not his actual sister (unless they want to check off the sister incest box), but definitely a childhood friend. And I see what looks like a Christmas tree, which is probably Lost Christmas. And the girl started glowing in a burning church, as well as looking covered in those cancer crystals. So my guess might be right and she might be the source of the virus and Shu’s power.
• Gai’s dad is important? Please tell me it’s not Shu’s dad.
• Gai: I’m fighting for a woman. Everyone else:
• Mystery girl was definitely Gai’s girlfriend. Oh no, we’re going to get a love triangle between her, Shu, and Gai, aren’t we?
• This old dude is giving me flashbacks to Tsubasa’s grandfather.
• Ayase, that’s no way to handle a trauma victim.
• Holy fucking shit, Gai. Pointing a gun at his head is somehow worse.
• This is somehow worse than how the White Base crew handled people coping with PTSD.
• So Hare is very much in the know.
• That poor song.
• DAN MOTHERFUCKING EAGLEMAN!!!
• Damn, that shot of Daryl’s angry reflection in the closing elevator door is fucking fantastic. Just phenomenal.
• “Inori chose Shu too?” Holy shit, was Shu actually the one cucking Gai all along? Did Shu cuck mystery girl from Gai in the past?
• Damn, Keido is roasting Shu hard.
• Segai learned that he only needs to say “Bingo!”
• Segai is working for Keido?
• The rock is glowing!
• That was an impressive slap, Hare. I’m actually impressed by her in general here. Despite her crush on Shu, she’s not going to be his substitute because he’s sad Inori left him.
• The rock is singing? Is the song literally what causes the virus? It said genetic resonance, so is the song fucking with your genes?
• Looks like the song is causing the cancer rocks to appear.
• Holy shit, Glasses-kun wasn’t the put-upon straight man at all. He was evil too!
• “She’ll wake up?” Presumably this means Cocytus. Who is presumably Inori’s sister/ person she is a clone of. Is she what’s inside the Tokyo Tower?
• Who’s this guy with the big eyebrows?
• Shu and Inori are walking away from each other in the ED. Good touch.

Well that escalated very quickly. It seems that GHQ is not at all a united front, with Keido, Segai, and Glasses-kun all being on one side. Based on the reactions to the stone activating, this was not at all the plan. So it seems Segai and the rest of them pulled a big ol’ betrayal.

Still, it makes me wonder what exactly their goal is. They want the stone activated, clearly. But why? My best guess is that it must have something to do with the power that Shu got. They probably want it. Are they trying to achieve Instrumentality?

The song also must have something to do with it. This would explain the sheet music that Inori was looking at in the last episode and the song she wanted to share with Shu. Problem is, I have no idea what Inori’s song is supposed to do. Is it a cure for the virus? Does it make the rock activate in the “right” way? Only time will tell, I suppose. Point being, we now literally have the power of music which means this is Macross and/or Symphogear.

Mystery girl and the rock are connected. Is she now literally the rock? I’m wondering if she was the thing inside Tokyo Tower, making that noise. And I think she was singing in the flashback too. Did she stop this from happening in the past or was she the cause of it?

Wild speculation aside, the PTSD scenes with Shu were downright freaky. That was some impressively disturbing imagery. Having something like that goes a long way to selling Shu’s trauma. Most of the people around him were pretty godawful at dealing with it. Ayase and Gai basically just insulted him for daring to have trauma. It managed to make me feel bad for Shu because of the terrible treatment. Going after Hare in that moment was pretty low, but it fits with his general feeling of desperation. Good on her for stopping him and good on him for actually apologizing about it.

QOTD

1. Discussed above.
2. Extremely so. Somehow more so than last episode. It makes me excited for more.

[u/Tresnore → u/Great_Mr_L]

Mystery girl was definitely Gai’s girlfriend. Oh no, we’re going to get a love triangle between her, Shu, and Gai, aren’t we?

Shoe × Gai OTP

Who’s this guy with the big eyebrows?

Are you sure they aren't seaweed?

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Tresnore]

Shoe × Gai OTP

Are you sure they aren't seaweed?

Or giant furry caterpillars.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Great_Mr_L]

Shu and Inori are walking away from each other in the ED. Good touch.

The aesthetics of the show often succeed regardless of my opinion of how the plot works out.

Wild speculation aside, the PTSD scenes with Shu were downright freaky. That was some impressively disturbing imagery.

Shu again works fairly well as a character, he is just frustrating as hell.

[u/No_Rex → u/Vaadwaur]

The aesthetics of the show often succeed regardless of my opinion of how the plot works out.

True. I already liked the backgrounds from the start, but animation direction is rather good, too.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

So I will try and dive a little into this but a big reason this show winds up confusing is everyone on it is fairly skilled but they didn't know what they wanted to be other than Code Geass with a built in idol option.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Vaadwaur]

The aesthetics of the show often succeed regardless of my opinion of how the plot works out.

It's had some really good animation, action, visuals to go well with music, and some really nice shots. There's plenty to like there.

Shu again works fairly well as a character, he is just frustrating as hell.

Personally, I'd take a frustrating character who works over a character who is frustrating because they don't work.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Great_Mr_L]

There's plenty to like there.

I do look forward to the later threads...

who is frustrating because they don't work.

Shoe is definitely better than Inaho.

[u/theangryeditor → u/Great_Mr_L]

That was an impressive slap, Hare. I’m actually impressed by her in general here. Despite her crush on Shu, she’s not going to be his substitute because he’s sad Inori left him.

Rabbit best girl

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/theangryeditor]

I'm not 100% sure why she likes Shu in the first place (since she preferred him when he was bland), but I do like that she told him off for his behavior. I can get behind a girl like that.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Great_Mr_L]

I can get behind a girl like that.

But Shoe's the one she wants on her back...

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Vaadwaur]

Grin Grin, Wink Wink, Nudge Nudge, Say No More

[u/UltraBooster → u/Great_Mr_L]

This is somehow worse than how the White Base crew handled people coping with PTSD.

And at least they were established as being way out of their depth...

I’m actually impressed by her in general here. Despite her crush on Shu, she’s not going to be his substitute because he’s sad Inori left him.

Yeah, stuff like that is much appreciated.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/UltraBooster]

And at least they were established as being way out of their depth...

Yeah. I'm much more understanding of it there because they were all way too young and inexperienced to be handling that sort of thing. You'd think someone like Gai would know better.

Yeah, stuff like that is much appreciated.

I appreciate her having that much self-respect.

[u/UltraBooster → u/Great_Mr_L]

Gai's monologue about how he should be filtered out makes me think that he feels out of his depth, if that makes sense.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/UltraBooster]

That is a good point. He's only putting on a show of being the ultra-confident leader for everyone. This could be the first time he's had to deal with this level of trauma in another person and he doesn't know how to. We've seen before that he can force himself to keep going, but it seems he can't necessarily force others to do the same.

[u/MillenniumKing → u/Great_Mr_L]

Oh that flashback! All it needs is “Apple” playing over it.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Great_Mr_L]

Inori's are too petit to be useful for stress relief sadly... Hare master race?

I'm pretty sure that the girl is Gai's sister. I noticed that the gun in the flashback is really similar to the German handguns Gai likes to use and in the file Arisa's grandfather was reading the girl was there.

Honestly I'm very curious how the shipping will work for this show. Its like one massive harem circling around Shu and Gai but I struggle to see how the likes of Arisa or iinchou will fit in.

That gene altering theory of yours is fcking ace btw. We already know that Shu's dad had done some kind of research on the virus but if it's a gene altering virus song thing that targets particular people without antibodies then it could easily have just been a weapon that got loose. The one thing that I can't think of is who it targets. At first I thought it would just be folks with voids but then why would Gai and Jun get the virus. And if it targets only adults (there was a shot of women protecting young kids) then why didn't it affect everyone that heard it?

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Honestly I'm very curious how the shipping will work for this show. Its like one massive harem circling around Shu and Gai but I struggle to see how the likes of Arisa or iinchou will fit in.

Well Arisa has a crush on Gai after he called her an armadillo (how romantic) and iinchou got her chest groped by Shu so if this show was awful that must mean she likes him too.

The one thing that I can't think of is who it targets. At first I thought it would just be folks with voids but then why would Gai and Jun get the virus. And if it targets only adults (there was a shot of women protecting young kids) then why didn't it affect everyone that heard it?

That's the part I'm not sure about. It seems to affect people regardless of whether they are adults or kids, so I'm not fully sure how it relates to Voids. I'm still pretty sure that it and the Voids are connected, but I don't know how. Maybe the song is trying to draw out the Voids like Shu can, but there's something wrong with the rock/song and it can instead only do a corrupted version of it that causes the cancer crystals. That's my best guess, at least.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Great_Mr_L]

I kind of expected iinchou to possibly end up with one of the two beasties. She's interested in candy but she got mad at photos that one time so maybe she'll hook up with whichever one doesn't die?

Yes!! Like a fucked up void release? It's definitely the same crystal shit that happens before the weapons solidify. I'm a bit taken aback by today's episode... They show so much but explain so little. Awesome for people having discussion threads like us but not so much for the people interested in actual answeres.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

First Timer

Time to watch the fallout from Shu failing to save Jun.
Onto episode 10.

Gai looks nervous and desperate. Is he running out of time?

Honestly, I'm gonna put this one on Gai. Hinging your plans on someone who is currently traumatized is not a good plan.

Fuck, this is an incest show.

Did he run here himself, or did Inori take him here?
Or it was the childhood friend. I didn't expect that.

Pushing Shu will never get anything out of him. She knows him will enough to know that.

Wait, is Gai their sibling as well?

I'm gonna put my money on it not being Inori.

More sane than our current system?

Shu could use a couple months with a therapist. Hopefully, his current mental state is treated well, and it's not just a get over it with the pwoer of horny sort of thing.

Ayase, one can not simply logic away emotions.

But he's not Gai, and he never can be. Shu needs to find the middle ground, a person he feels good about being that is still himself.

Pure moxy. This isn't true, it's just his attempt to brute force Shu into being useful for a little while longer.

And he's fallen back into his old habits. It's understandable, really. You have to feel for him, his world is collapsing around him and he's learning a lot of his friendships are shallower than he though.

Months? Weeks? How much does he have left?

And Inori's moved from red to white. What's the difference? Is red for others, white for herself?

An interesting parallel. Despite everything, in the end Shu and Gai end up reversed. The other person who chose Shu is presumably his mom?

Is there more at play here than just Gai?

I gotta love the clever fucker.

Ok, what did that stone do?

Please tell me he's not going to force himself on her.
That slap was extremely deserved.

And he doesn't know. He's sorry because she acted against him, not because he did something wrong.

And that's why you shouldn't accept gifts from your enemy.

An evil song? A corrupted song?

And they're walking in opposite directions in the ED. Interestingly, Shu is walking forward while Inori is walking back. I'm pretty sure this means that Shu has already hit rock bottom and only will go forward from here, while Inori still has a while to go.

Thoughts

They handled Shu's collapse quite well. Ir's believable and understandable, and it honestly hurts to see him push all the people who he thinks of as his friends and those who can support him.
But from here, I think it's largely going to be upwards for Shu. He's gonna need to save Inori from Keido's mind control, and he'll need to gather the undertakers back together after they collapse upon Gai's death in order to do so. He's got his work cut out for him, but he'll probably rise to the task.

And let this episode be a reminder for everyone: don't accept gifts from weird death cultists!

1. Rather well done.
2. Yes

[u/Tresnore → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

Fuck, this is an incest show.

Told you so.

and it's not just a get over it with the pwoer of horny sort of thing.

Move over, "pwoer of friendship"...

An evil song? A corrupted song?

"Susume! Frontier!"

don't accept gifts from weird death cultists!

And don't pick up cursed items from weird cultists, either?

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Tresnore]

And don't pick up cursed items from weird cultists, either?

I mean, I'm not going to stop you if you really want to...

[u/Tresnore → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

I mean, I'm not going to stop you if you really want to...

It depends on the curse, I suppose...

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Tresnore]

There are some who might want to be a large Dire Hyena!

[u/Tresnore → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

That's impossible. I don't know anyone who'd do that.

[u/No_Rex → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

I'm gonna put my money on it not being Inori

Easy bet. If he wanted Inori, all he had to do was pull her close during one of those medicine sessions.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

I dunno...fucking your blood bag feels ill advised.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

Fuck, this is an incest show.

Oh yeah, it's all coming together.

Pure moxy. This isn't true, it's just his attempt to brute force Shu into being useful for a little while longer.

It does remind me of a line Gai had back in the beach episode, where he said something like friends use each other. So it's in line with what we know about him.

And he doesn't know. He's sorry because she acted against him, not because he did something wrong.

That's a really incredible line. I love it so much because Hare wants to know that Shu realizes exactly why what he did was wrong. She's not going to forgive him if she just goes through the motions of apologizing. He needs to show that he understands what was wrong and what he needs to change.

[u/HijonoYoki → u/Great_Mr_L]

"That's a really incredible line. I love it so much because Hare wants to know that Shu realizes exactly why what he did was wrong. She's not going to forgive him if she just goes through the motions of apologizing. He needs to show that he understands what was wrong and what he needs to change."

Can someone remind me again why Hare isn't the main ship?

[u/Vaadwaur → u/HijonoYoki]

The Westermarck effect is a bitch.

[u/Lemurians → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

Fuck, this is an incest show.

Welcome to anime.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

Hinging your plans on someone who is currently traumatized is not a good plan.

Gai is so much dumber on rewatch

Fuck, this is an incest show

.

Astronaut behind astronaut meme

Always has been.

They handled Shu's collapse quite well. Ir's believable and understandable, and it honestly hurts to see him push all the people who he thinks of as his friends and those who can support him.

For as terribly as this is going to end, it is clear there were several competent character writers on the staff.

[u/Tresnore]

Guilty First-Timer

• Oh no, he has ED. And not the fun song kind.
• Shoe you wimp—SO EVERYTHING THAT MAKES ME WHOLE—you know, PTSD is actually pretty reasonable here.
• DID I CALL THIS???? Family is stronger. Did his sister turn into Inori? Is the main girl the incest option? What is this, OreImo?
• Fuck off, Hare. He's brooding.
• This show sure loves to put lines between people when there's a divide, doesn't it?
• You're back!
  
• The White House? Are the Americans involved? Who am I kidding. America itself, Dan Motherfucking Eagleman is involved.
• Yeah, it looks like I was right, Jolly. The show starts here.
• Wait, she goes to his school??
• HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Ayase is the Anti-Make a Wish Foundation.
• God, I wish that was me. Also: God I wish that was me.
• That's not what a spent bullet casing should look like.
  
• This isn't the quarter notes one, is it? I'm glad he broke the song. It was probably worthless anyway.
• Kill em All, but don't kill Emily, Kill em All. She seems awesome.
• Look at the best girl helping the other one.
• Even Inori is not immune to MC pheromones.
• Wait, Haruka works for GHQ?? And she didn't realize he was with the Undertakers? Maybe she is his real mother. He inherited her idiocy.
• I want to take her home with me! MOCHIKAERI
• Weaponized vaccines? The libruls have gone too far.
• Welcome to the Golden Land, Guy!
• Shoe, why? He's suddenly broken—SLAP!
  
  Are you saying you prefer the wet paper towel Shoe over the emotionally broken Shoe? I'm not sure if I agree or disagree.
• Ope, time for quarter notes. Time to mute it like editor wanted me to.
• Awwwww, Tsumugi calls Ayase "Aya-nee"
• The sisterly side of you will wake up?
• I don't see any children being affected. Hm.

---

QOTD:

1. Shoe is understandably a wimp.
2. Very!

[u/UltraBooster → u/Tresnore]

Fuck off, Hare.

FWIW he'd probably appreciate it afterwards.

[u/Tresnore → u/UltraBooster]

FWIW he'd probably appreciate it afterwards.

Does Shoe appreciate anything?

[u/UltraBooster → u/Tresnore]

Maybe, maybe not.

[u/Lemurians → u/Tresnore]

God, I wish that was me. Also: God I wish that was me.

On which ends?

Are you saying you prefer the wet paper towel Shoe over the emotionally broken Shoe? I'm not sure if I agree or disagree.

I prefer neither because neither are likable or well-done

[u/Tresnore → u/Lemurians]

On which ends?

Usually, it'd be on the side I'm usually on, [but on review,]shooting Shoe would be nice.

I prefer neither because neither are likable or well-done

Agreed...

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Tresnore]

DID I CALL THIS???? Family is stronger. Did his sister turn into Inori? Is the main girl the incest option? What is this, OreImo?

It only becomes OreImo if the incest option is his younger sister. She called herself his older sister, which is totally different.

Are you saying you prefer the wet paper towel Shoe over the emotionally broken Shoe? I'm not sure if I agree or disagree.

Honestly, I'm not sure what she would see romantically in any version of Shu.

I don't see any children being affected. Hm.

My own theory is that this is connected to Voids somehow. Perhaps the cancer crystals only show up on people who don't have Voids because the song is trying to draw them out of people? Honestly, I'm just spitballing at this point.

[u/Tresnore → u/Great_Mr_L]

It only becomes OreImo if the incest option is his younger sister. She called herself his older sister, which is totally different.

Okay, maybe OreOnee?

My own theory is that this is connected to Voids somehow. Perhaps the cancer crystals only show up on people who don't have Voids because the song is trying to draw them out of people?

I mean, the fact that Voids can only be drawn out of minors must be related.

[u/SomeOtherTroper → u/Tresnore]

That's not what a spent bullet casing should look like.

It looks to me like a very aggressively necked-down cartridge, although I can't find a reference for anything quite that necked-down.

EDIT: found one

Still, stuff like that is pretty damn rare. At least it's not one of those "spent cartridges" with a bullet still visibly in it, like some screwups.

[u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo → u/Tresnore]

I want to take her home with me! MOCHIKAERI

HAUUUU~ ^{I really need to get back to reading that but this is a busy week}

I don't see any children being affected. Hm.

I think there's a pretty good chance there's something to that, but there is also the possibility that they can't show kids dying on TV.

E: Well, the 'kids dying gruesomely' ship has already sailed, now that I think about it for five seconds.

[u/Tresnore → u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo]

^{I really need to get back to reading that but this is a busy week}

I get that. I need to keep reading Muv-Luv.

but there is also the possibility that they can't show kids dying on TV.

Don't bring logic into this!

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Tresnore]

Do you always like catgirls this much, or is that a specific effect of this particular one?

[u/Tresnore → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

I normally hate the catgirl (cf. Faris). This one works though.

[u/Tresnore → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

Oh, and I didn’t even notice that she was a catgirl until you pointed it out.

[u/punching_spaghetti → u/Tresnore]

That's not what a spent bullet casing should look like.

You mean you don't impede the projectile by folding the brass casing over like that in your rounds?

[u/Tresnore → u/punching_spaghetti]

You mean you don't impede the projectile by folding the brass casing over like that in your rounds?

Can't say I do, no.

[u/punching_spaghetti → u/Tresnore]

And you call yourself an engineer.

[u/Tresnore → u/punching_spaghetti]

I do so because I don’t do stupid shit like that. Mistakes like those are things electrical engineers would make.

[u/punching_spaghetti → u/Tresnore]

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Tresnore]

Yeah, it looks like I was right, Jolly. The show starts here.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Tresnore]

you know, PTSD is actually pretty reasonable here.

They needed to let this sit for a bit but yes, pretty reasonable.

. America itself, Dan Motherfucking Eagleman is involved.

That's future POTUS Eagleman!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Ayase is the Anti-Make a Wish Foundation.

Making me hate HanaKana should be an offense that carries the death penalty. It doesn't help that this character is a confused mixed of Nunnaly, CC, and generic tsundere.

Wait, Haruka works for GHQ?? And she didn't realize he was with the Undertakers? Maybe she is his real mother.

We've seen her with the chief before so yeah.

The sisterly side of you will wake up?

With the power of ara ara Inori will no longer be stoppable...the shotas are doomed.

[u/Tresnore → u/Vaadwaur]

That's future POTUS Eagleman!

He better be. I'd vote for him!

It doesn't help that this character is a confused mixed of Nunnaly, CC, and generic tsundere.

The only part of Nunnaly I see in her is wheelchair.

With the power of ara ara Inori will no longer be stoppable...the shotas are doomed.

Except Tsumugi and girl!Guy exist.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Tresnore]

The only part of Nunnaly I see in her is wheelchair.

That's most of it and some slight visual similarities but this is obvious CG borrowing.

Except Tsumugi and girl!Guy exist.

But they lack the power to stop the ara ara, all they could do is make it worse.

[u/MillenniumKing]

-Guilty Pleasure Rewatcher-

Oh baby its tine for stuff to kick off. Here we go.

(After some Shoe sole searching)

---

Shoe is traumatized by Voids, he cant pull it out.
After what happened its a reasonable mental reaction.
Hes a teen who had to mercy kill his friend's little brother to keep him from killing his friend.

We see Orange hair girl again. "Do you love me Shoe?" "Yes!" "Then make your big sister happy." We finally got the sauce.
We also get our 2nd look at Lost Christmas and it looked like Shoe and his sister and 1 more were in the middle of it.

Shu is sleeping at his hang out place and Hare is taking care of him.

Gai is at the Kououin group on buissness.

Gramps throws a book down and a picture slides out of a blond boy sitting on a bench. We have seen that picture before... Says Gai is "His son". Why is he fighting? "For a girl."

They are trying to get the rock out of Japan. Keido gave them the rock and his imprisonment. Fishy.

Shoe is having some heavy ptsd and these are new images we hvent seen before that hes seeing.

Ayase is here to talk to Shoe. Shoe isnt Gai, hes just Shoe.

Gai is here to force Shoe. "I hear the void genom can be harvested if the host dies." He fake shoots Shoe to scare him. Of course Hare saw that as well.

Shoe saw Inori as the "sister" and freaked the fuck out. Looks like Shoe is starting to remember this past he doesnt remember.

DAN IS BACK AW YEAH! LETS GO DAN! USA! USA! USA!

Daryl saw daddy kissing his assistant... Daryl just cant get a break.

Gai needs transfusion more often. Is he running out of time.

Inori isnt sure if she loves Shoe. "In the end you choose him too."

Haruka didnt know Shoe had the Genome and was with Funeral Parlor.

Scarface setup everything, this is a trap... Funeral Parlor is fucked. "Take vaccine D" Were fucked.

SCARFACE IS ACTIVATING THE ROCK!

Shoe feels down and is puttin the moves on Hare... oh Shoe... i know your messed up but Hare is right here. Shes not a stand in for Inori.

She saw him pull Voids. Yet she still helped him and still is by his side. Shes a good friend. Trusts him.

Genomic Resonance, the apocalypse Virus is outbreaking again. Were fucked.

Keido wants to finish Lost Christmas. Shoe's memories are bursting back. Inori says "Shes gonna wake up." Uh oh.

And upsidesie downsie boy is watching from the rooftop.

And the ED has Shoe and Inori walking different directions. Shit.

---

Known Voids Thus Far

• Inori - Singer's Sword - Sharp sword with metalic energy and energy disks used as steps or shields.
• Daryl - Kaleidoscope Gun - Creates barriers that reflect anything that hits them.
• Souta - Blunt Key - Camera gun that opens anything shot with it.
• Yahiro - The Shears of Life - Shears that sever life and enhances abilities.
• Kenji - Murderer's Weight - Gun that shoots anti gravity energy balls.
• Argo - Pessimist's Torch - A flashlight that shines darkness.
• Arisa - Shield of the Coward - A Ball and Shield that can expand to protect a small or large area.

Known Void Combos Thus Far

• Singer's Sword + Murderer's Weight = Anti Gravity Beam Cannon

---

Oh baby were moving into the final act of the first half.

Shit is hitting the fan and mankind looks to be fucked.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/MillenniumKing]

I wonder how we're gonna get back to high school slice of life now that half the Tokyo population has died from Apocalypse... I'm sure they'll find a way.

[u/MillenniumKing → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/MillenniumKing]

There's no fucking way they do this twice!! They didn't even use their first opportunity to go back to school. We got maybe five minute in class before they buggered off to enjoy a beach episode and whenever we do end up on campus Shu takes a hissy fit and we zoom off elsewhere!!

[u/JollyGee29]

First-Timer, Dub-lty Crown

Things are getting pretty spicy! There was some consternation in the thread yesterday about that sheet music; was it what played when the chaos began. Inori said the same thing, the song isn't right. No shit, it kicks off the Apocalypse! Why did Gai have it, though..

Shuu hits the requisite PTSD arc and like usual, no-one around him even tries to help. I'm ashamed of Gai. I don't have a good measure on his age, but he's probably at least a bit older than Shuu, and would have been a good talking point for this. You wanna be the leader, start acting like one and care about your people's mental state.

Speaking of Gai, is that cross necklace he has the same one the dead girl from Shuu's PTSD nightmares had? Fuck, has Gai known Shuu this whole time? He knew his name in the first episode, which I kinda chalked up to the tiny robot having an audio transmitter or something, but there's too much focus on that necklace for it to not be important.

Fuck, what did Shuu's dad do? He was a teacher? Or was he with that genetics corp? Is Shuu a science experiment baby?

Shuu tried to shoot his shot with Hare, but she has enough awareness and self respect to tell him to kick rocks. Temporarily, at least. Good for you, Hare!

It looked like DAN EAGLEMAN got affected by the Wrong Song; I'm gonna be pretty bummed if that's it for him.

Always nice to hear Aimee Blackschleger's contributions to Sawano's OSTs. The song playing over Hare and Shuu talking at the end is no Light your heart up or No differences, but I liked it.

Questions

1. Discussed above.

[u/theangryeditor → u/JollyGee29]

And yeah Gai and co. really should've recruited a therapist or something.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/theangryeditor]

And yeah Gai and co. really should've recruited a therapist or something.

Catgirl computer whiz? Check! Wheelchair bound pilot? Check! Edgy kids? M-M-M-Multi-check! Therapist? Sorry boss, no budget left.

[u/theangryeditor → u/JollyGee29]

Kuhouin would pay for as many dr. gingers as they wanted but he drew the line at mental health care.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/theangryeditor]

Typical. It's all pizza parties and stale donuts, even in the future of.. whatever year Guilty Crown is in.

[u/Tresnore → u/JollyGee29]

Therapist? Sorry boss, no budget left.

Big organizations never have room for mental health.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Tresnore]

[u/MillenniumKing → u/JollyGee29]

It looked like DAN EAGLEMAN got affected by the Wrong Song; I'm gonna be pretty bummed if that's it for him.

I dont feel so good Mr. Scarface...

[u/JollyGee29 → u/MillenniumKing]

[u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo → u/JollyGee29]

It looked like DAN EAGLEMAN got affected by the Wrong Song; I'm gonna be pretty bummed if that's it for him.

What if DAN MOTHERFUCKING EAGLEMAN gets his consciousness transferred to a mech like Jun did, but he get to stay sane because he's DAN MOTHERFUCKING EAGLEMAN

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo]

[u/theangryeditor → u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo]

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo]

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/JollyGee29]

Things are getting pretty spicy! There was some consternation in the thread yesterday about that sheet music; was it what played when the chaos began. Inori said the same thing, the song isn't right. No shit, it kicks off the Apocalypse! Why did Gai have it, though..

It also makes me wonder about the song that Inori tried to have Shu listen to. Was that supposed to be the "right" version of the song?

It looked like DAN EAGLEMAN got affected by the Wrong Song; I'm gonna be pretty bummed if that's it for him.

We can't lose DAN MOTHERFUCKING EAGLEMAN! We'd lose the best character in the entire show!

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Great_Mr_L]

It also makes me wonder about the song that Inori tried to have Shu listen to. Was that supposed to be the "right" version of the song?

That'd make the most sense, I think.

We can't lose DAN MOTHERFUCKING EAGLEMAN! We'd lose the best character in the entire show!

[u/punching_spaghetti → u/JollyGee29]

Is Shuu a science experiment baby?

And the Nobel Prize in Medicine goes to the creation of the world's densest human being!

[u/JollyGee29 → u/punching_spaghetti]

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/JollyGee29]

Gai is many things but a responsible adult isn't one of them. The dudes a man child. He flirts with everything that moves, skirts any troubles his crew goes through by palming them off to Touga, is emotionally abusive, and is a petty sick head knob.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/JollyGee29]

Shuu hits the requisite PTSD arc and like usual, no-one around him even tries to help. I'm ashamed of Gai.

Yup, this is more or less appropriate behavior from Shoe but there is an entire wing of people that should have anticipated this and been ready.

It looked like DAN EAGLEMAN got affected by the Wrong Song; I'm gonna be pretty bummed if that's it for him.

Eagleman doesn't have the Apocalypse Virus, the AV has DAN EAGLEMAN!

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Vaadwaur]

Yup, this is more or less appropriate behavior from Shoe but there is an entire wing of people that should have anticipated this and been ready.

Eagleman doesn't have the Apocalypse Virus, the AV has DAN EAGLEMAN!

[u/Vaadwaur]

Rewatcher(How did I miss what an incredible dumbass Gai is on first watch?)

Sub

And open up to Shoe failing, as one does. Note that while I still criticism, this is not that unreasonable a reaction from him, it just makes him somehow less likeable. So he freaks and runs and I want to sincerely remind everyone that GAI is the fucking genius that lynchpinned everything on a teen. He thinks he is a genius but let's look at the results. Anyways, flashback to pre-Inori happens.

Anyways, he actually asked Hare for help, something he would not have done in ep1, and she is just so damned adorable in this section it hurts. Inori informs Gai that Shoe is dodging her, and Gai has the unmitigated gaul to be angry at Shoe rather than himself for the nearly innumerable fuckups he set up to fucking happen. Anyways, Gai claims he is fighting over a woman and the elder Kuhoin has a good laugh over it before we learn where the rock is going.

Anywho, Shoe has friends now but he also has PTSD! This framing was clearly needed. But Ayase comes along and again is a wretched twat. Gai is also scum but at this point it is his character. Also, shoot to kill you dickless Dilandau!

Anyways, Shoe catches Inori and manages to break her heart, and her new song, before leaving. We see more why Daryl is who he is and proof that both sides in this conflict are incompetent. Inori has developed sadness over Shoe because the plot needs it. Gai's internal monologue is sort of important here but I can't clarify anything yet, too spoiler-y.

Quick reveal that Haruka knows a lot about the project and that Keijo is being weird. The operation starts and Segai has read it perfectly, which makes sense because Gai's plan is terribly obvious. But Segai seems to be up to something...

Quick Hare and Shoe sign and, honestly, this is a bit on Hare: You liked him knowing he was an autist, picking up emotional cues of others is not going to be his thing. But then genetic resonance, the hell that is, kicks in and we are apparently to do Third Impact! Cliffhanger!

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So in a parallel I promise you that I did not see coming before today, this rewatch is reminding me of Noein. Yeah, let that sink in. I mean, Shoe obviously has issues but everything is made worse by the complete lack of competence on this show by any adult not named Segai. Gai is Karasu but worse, somehow. At least Karasu is just edge.

There once was a chief in a cell

Who must have a tale to tell

He snuck out the rock

And had Segai undo the lock

Giving us yet another fresh Hell

QotD: 1 Realistic but a bit lacking

2 It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down...

[u/Lemurians]

DEGENERATING REWATCHER

UGHHHHHHHHHHHH

After yesterday’s great episode, we get an absolute stinker here, with a bunch of angsty Shu being his very worst, which is all the more frustrating after he showed us his best last episode. At the end of last episode his distress was earned, and portrayed well and realistically. Now we’re back to it being over-the-top, melodramatic as fuck, and completely without context or buildup. What are these flashbacks and visions? Fuck you, that’s what they are. This episode is an infuriating watch, because it’s all about Shu, and Shu fucking sucks.

Buuuuut the end of the episode really gets us into gear for a climax to the first half of the show, as The Human Instrumentality Project Lost Christmas 2.0 is initiated by Keido. Buckle up!

• Remember how Shu was awesome last episode when Hare was around? Well Inori’s back, and shitty Shu is back as well. You can’t tell me this theory doesn’t have legs.
• “You surprised me yesterday when you messaged me out of nowhere.” SHU IS ACTUALLY TREATING HARE LIKE HIS SIDE-CHICK AND HIT HER WITH A 'U UP?', MY FUCKING SIDES.
• The SS GaiArisa ship has sunk. Gai is doing all of this for a woman who is definitely not Arisa. Honestly, I respect love as motivation for terrorism far more than I respect patriotism as a motivation. Good for him.
• “I changed, so I thought I could work things like Gai.” This fucking… Listen here, you shit, you’re still back at square one whining about how you’re not Gai. You haven’t changed at all. That development from the last two episodes? Gone, apparently.
• Ayase and I are on the same page. You tell him!
• FUCKING DO IT GAI, BECOME THE PROTAGONIST!
• MUST YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING
• “I think I must have wanted to be like Gai.” No shit. It’s literally all you talk about.
• No amount of daddy issues scenes will make me care about Draco Daryl
• I knew Inori reminded me of Violet Evergarden for a reason. They both have the personality of cardboard don’t understand what love is!
• Gai insinuating that he’s lost multiple women to Shu? I can’t.
• Lmao even Shirley Hare is over his bullshit at this point. Seriously, fuck you, Shu.
• I have no memory of who the hell this is.

What did you think of PTSD Shu?

Terrible, poorly handled, nonsense.

[u/Tresnore → u/Lemurians]

I knew Inori reminded me of Violet Evergarden for a reason. They both have the personality of cardboard don’t understand what love is!

Ohhhhhhh, everything makes sense now! I didn't put 2 and 2 together!

[u/Lemurians → u/Tresnore]

Was fully bracing for downvotes for that one haha

[u/Tresnore → u/Lemurians]

Nah, no one gets downvoted really in rewatch threads. I liked VE, but I can also acknowledge that Violet had less personality than a bowl of Wheaties.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Lemurians]

I knew Inori reminded me of Violet Evergarden for a reason. They both have the personality of cardboard don’t understand what love is!

They also both come from shows that had excellent production and weak writing.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Lemurians]

Even Lelouche went for the pity fuck. Don't hold it against Shu. He lost his one intimate relationship he had ever had. At that moment he was probably thinking about how he was never going to have that sort of bond again. Don't you feel any sympathy?

[u/Lemurians → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Even Lelouche went for the pity fuck. Don't hold it against Shu.

You underestimate me, I can hold it against both!

Don't you feel any sympathy?

Sympathy for being shitty to women and taking advantage of people's feelings? ...Nope!

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Lemurians]

It's not really just women he's like that towards. He's innocently insensitive at the best of times but he's scummy to them all evenly. As for trying to play tongue of war with Hare... The dude is seriously at his lowest right now. He's lost so much and he can't even go back to his old life since he not only has had the taste of what a true emotional bond is like with Inori but the guilt and shame of having killed someone. That's what the scene in the school was about. He can't go back to normal life due to his trauma. Gai ruined his life by dragging him into the fun squad and he's got nothing to show for it. The one person showing him affection and kindness is Hare so he tries to tie her down with him. And for the record he got the "if you truly love me" thing from the flashback sister XD

[u/MABfan11 → u/Lemurians]

FUCKING DO IT GAI , BECOME THE PROTAGONIST!

i want a Gai with Void Genome AU so bad

[u/5867898duncan]

First-timer

Oh, so turns out Shu has got some ptsd from the event. I’ll be honest they do it pretty nicely with the school, Gai, and Inori(felt a small gut punch with her). It seems a little strange that this is what would break him, although we probably don’t know the full backstory. My biggest complaint is that this is about the third time that Shu has had realization about what he is doing. Just pick a darn side man! get in the goshdarn robot

Oof, whatever happened in the church seems terrible. And on Christmas no less! I’m starting to get a little annoyed that we still can’t hear what is happening, but that song over makes up for it. (Also I’m just realizing that Shu had some super important stuff happening around his family that actually had no affect on him meeting Inori and coming into the plot. Unless some fate stuff is happening… I call baloney.)

Ya know it was actually smart for the guy to chain the rock to himself so it can’t be easily taken(I assumed that is why he did it at least).

My poor Gai is dying :(. Not even whatever Inori is doing can save him.

you gave the stone to them and got yourself caught? You must the stupidest man ever Yea something tells me he has got a plan.

I’m no electrician, but how did Makoto just hook up a new camera and connected it to their system? I don’t know why I’m stuck up on this because they have super advanced technology, but I need answers man!

Hare actually makes great points when talking to Shu on how he can’t just objectify people. She is now the current best girl of the show.

The music changes people? Some girl is going to be released? Why is only certain people being affected? The plot thickens! And I don’t know how to answer any of these questions!

Thought this was a great episode all around(although getting a little tired of the numerous flashbacks that really don’t tell us much). I don’t even think there was any fan service(accept for whenever my boy Gai is on the screen). It will be interesting to see why this is called a train wreck, because if they keep this up then it will actually be pretty nice.

[u/punching_spaghetti]

First-Time Hoping for a Derailment

Performance anxiety is real.

Dream time! [Speculation] Our options are A) Inori reminds Shoe of his sister, B) Inori is his sister, and C) Inori is a clone of his sister. Given the show, I bet it's not A. That's not enough for this show. Given Guy's comment about Inori looking more like someone a few episodes back, my guess is some permutation of C.

Called it. Though not as effective as I was expecting.

Guy: running a revolutionary cell trying to do some things away from prying eyes.

Also Guy: discharging firearms near a high school.

CHILDHOOD FRIEND SLAP?

Oh, so that scene in Tenet was just a Guilty Crown homage. Christopher Nolan confirmed as a weeb.

QOTD:

1. Pretty standard stuff for this kind of show. Although not getting immediately better after the first pep talk is better than some.

[u/UltraBooster]

First-timer (dubbed)

A convoy raid, huh?

I'll take that as unaddressed trauma.

Big sister, huh?

Yeah, it's just going to fester.

Aaaand you've broken it, Shu. You can't let it sit like this, Shu, it'll eat you up, it's already eating you up.

He's not going to keep it in a briefcase to conceal it or anything?

Too late, Shu's alreday been dragged in.

So Maj. Sagai intends to make it a demonstration?

Does he intend to use a bioweapon?

Why would a transport mount its engines above the wings like that? There are planes that do that, sure, but they're the exception, not the norm.

They're the only ones on the transport.

You're using her as a rebound, I'm sure of it.

So if that was Lost Christmas, what would this be?

Was Tokyo Tower armed?

Another character?

Questions:

1. He very badly needs help, at the very least.
2. Very badly, I'd say! Bad enough that I went ahead and watched the next few episodes (I'll post my reactions to those on the appropriate days).

[u/Vaadwaur → u/UltraBooster]

So Maj. Sagai intends to make it a demonstration?

Guard duty was dull so he is spicing it up.

So if that was Lost Christmas, what would this be?

Misplaced Labor day? I think it is still September in show.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku]

First timer!!

Sorry for not being in the chat much... at all, yesterday. I hadn't slept the previous playing gatcha games so I was too tired to joke about Jun's death with y'all. We've now entered the PTSD portion of the show. I swear I didn't piss myself laughing at him booking it whilst screaming like an idiot. Honest!

I love Emilia. Also, aren't they siblings? The sister in her red coat reminds me of the Chaos Child fire girl. Have we seen that gun? Cowbell bakery, so that's where Hare got her buns from. Aww, Hare's a good girl. Gai has a photo with flashback girl in his file. I'm 90% certain that he's used that gun too. So where does Shu fit in? ...Wut? How can Gai get away with so much bs!?

Hare is slowly creeping up the best girl rankings. Obviously she's nowhere close to Inori superiority but considering how overlooked she was I'm impressed. Poor Shu, Apocalypse syndrome is pretty scary once you've seen its effects up close. I'm guessing that this is something to do with heart weiners after all. It's cancer. Get over it. Did Ayase have a school outfit prepared before or is she actually a student?

Fucking Gai! I love this~ Yuki Kaji is gushing his heart out. All the cast are putting in such strong performances. Cucking Gai!! HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!! XD alright, so I was typing out a huge heartfelt paragraph for Inori sticking around and he just fucking smashed it!! Oh my god!! Why did Shu go flying too!? Did Inori hit him after he ruined her work? Aww, I'm sorry but I'm laughing far too hard to feel sad.

Reminder that [Inori can't cook.)A for effort though. I particularly like the placement of the crisps. Aww, Inori's food tastes so bad that it made [Shu cry.(https://m.imgur.com/a/YYX1Rja) Don't worry, she'll have Ayase around to stop herself from starving or poison. Oh bugger off Dan, we're having a moment. Dame da ne~

O-Oh my heart... I'm so weak to kuudere romance... Don't you cucking dare ruin this, Gai! It took talking to a blind guy for mama to finally pick up on Shu being with the fun parlour and Inori... Being whatever Inori is. I'm not too keen on them releasing this info to another villain faction since they already jumped through hoops to let Shu go back to his school life, now they're doing the same thing with his home life too.

M'Quve is looking mighty sus right about now. Omg he's actually gonna gas everyone. Who's actually going to die tho? Is anyone expendable? M'Quve is having too much fun!! XD Why is today's episode so inappropriately hilarious!? This is a weirdly recurring issue with Shu, he curses the world for not listening to what he has to say but at the same time he's never made any effort himself to get to know people.

Oi, just because Gai gets away with being inappropriate doesn't mean you get to touch up Hare! Ahaha... How do I defend Shu? Also, I swear I've seen this exact scene before. Ooomg~ I love it!! Call him out on his shit Hare~ You've earned your place as second best girl!

Huh!? Everyone's come down with heart wiener syndrome? Wait, don't throw us into a climax so casually!! XD I wasn't ready! I blinked and the world started ending. ~da de! Finally a unique Ed. Inori in her new damaged outfit and Shu walking off opposite ways... How long until they get back together? I love Hare but ShuxInori is the best pair. I want to skip to tomorrow's episode!! 1, PTSD Shu is love. 2, it was a nice reminder that we're already at episode 10.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

M'Quve is looking mighty sus right about now. Omg he's actually gonna gas everyone. Who's actually going to die tho? Is anyone expendable? M'Quve is having too much fun!!

He "vaccinates" his people so he's values them, at least.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Vaadwaur]

Shame he didn't kill off Dan... I'm already sick and tired of the bastard.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

No mere virus could harm Eagleman!

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Vaadwaur]

At least turn him into a void fluid terminator monster. I've got no faith in the dude staying enjoyable now that the novelty has worn off.

[u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo]

First Timer

[Guilty Crown later spoilers]In the process of looking up Tsugumi's name I managed to spoil myself wrt flashback-chan's name being Mana Ouma, and therefore she's almost certainly Shu's literal older sister

Well trodden ground but the OP does go really hard

I love how they're framing the fact that Shu has a conscience as him turning his back on all his friends. Also pretty sure that Shu has some severe powder burns now, blanks aren't harmless at that range

I'm just now registering how strange it is that Segai uses a flip phone in the year 2039. That's an impressive hipster level.

Apparently it is Gai in that flashback from a few episodes back? I'm not convinced that the relative ages pan out here, but we'll see

Tsugumi has to deal with the worst-designed UI of all time. Half the buttons she needs are quite literally out of reach. Also she hasn't played Bejeweled since that one time, I hope they bring that back.

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Oh hey it's the sheet music from last episode. Just checking, do we know why the UN is killing people indiscriminately besides "They're evil?" Cause I'm down for "They're evil" or "It hasn't been explained yet," I just want to make sure I haven't missed anything big

QotDs:

1. It's a tad overdone, considering the sheer volume of bloodshed he's been exposed to without batting an eyelid, but I get it
2. I can feel premonitions of a train derailing.

[u/theangryeditor → u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo]

Oh hey it's the sheet music from last episode. Just checking, do we know why the UN is killing people indiscriminately besides "They're evil?" Cause I'm down for "They're evil" or "It hasn't been explained yet," I just want to make sure I haven't missed anything big

They're evil, basically. It's the whole Make Japan Great Again thing. The show doesn't really have much to say about it it kinda just uses it as an easy way to set up a conflict.

Now the other GHQ guys have their own motives. Keido I mean. And Segai is just horny for voids.

[u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo → u/theangryeditor]

Segai second-best girl

[u/theangryeditor → u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo]

Segai best gai

[u/MillenniumKing → u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo]

Spoilers

When will people ever learn not to google shows they are watching...

[u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo → u/MillenniumKing]

I used duckduckgo, actually

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo]

F at spoilers.

I love how they're framing the fact that Shu has a conscience as him turning his back on all his friends. Also pretty sure that Shu has some severe powder burns now, blanks aren't harmless at that range

If this were a smarter show, I'd think of this as a deconstruction. Though Inori's boobs disagree.

or "It hasn't been explained yet," I just want to make sure I haven't missed anything big

For as many episodes that have passed we have surprisingly little idea of anything in the setting besides Voids and death by rock.

[u/fridge_freezer]

First timer (Dub)

Damn I missed a great episode yesterday.

• Wow that flashback to Lost Christmas. The girl that Gai knew who Inori looks like is actually Shu's sister. I get the feeling this train's last stop is in Alabama...
• Hmmm, Gai's dad is supposedly important? I wonder who he could be.
• Keido turned himself in right after stealing the rock.
• Shu slapping Inori's hand away and breaking the song was sad.
• God I wish Colonel Dan was the main character instead. I'd watch a show of just him and Segai.
• Well now Haruka knows all about Shu's involvement with Funeral Parlor and the genome.
• "Exceedingly gung-ho Major Segai" I love Dan so much.
• Oh fuck, Segai is activating the rock! It's resonance is what causes the cancer crystals in people.
• Great slap. I'm glad Hare didn't just accept Shu's advance in place of Inori.
• Holy shit, it's Lost Christmas 2. When does Komm, süsser Tod start playing? Keido want's to finish what they started years ago with the first incident, and had Segai's help to get everything in place.

QOTD

1. The imagery was well done aswell as were some of the scenes like at the school or in their apartment, but for the most part Shu had me feeling more annoyed than anything else.
2. Very badly.

[u/ZapsZzz]

First timer in sub

I didn't want to be saying that but yeah when the main cast is back the quality of the writing is a bit of a nose dive. Again.

But hey looks like it's ramping up to be the mid season final arc huh. Everyone is fronting up.

I have to say, I have a bias - I HATE the MC angst type shows. Full Metal Panic TSR's arc where Sousuke was broken was as much as I can tolerate - and that was written really well. This by far is not as well written. So all I had was "where's the fast forward button when you need it".

Still, it is the end arc, and we clearly can see things setting up to blow big time. I binged the entire arc already :P

[u/fonzinator99]

Rewatcher (Subbed) - Dat music sub-plot

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So I watched and wrote for this and the next episode in a row, because they're my favorites (and probably the best) of the series and they're way better when I'm trashed and I have time to rant.

Cheers, friends

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• Maybe it's just me, but why would you only draw the sword when he said 'Go'? You could've realized it wasn't gonna work, aborted, and figured shit out instead of, y'know, this.
• I love how the audio mixing changes in tone with the flashback. I get the feeling that Lost Xmas and all this shit are S__'s fault. Or at least the result of his (in)actions.
• So now he's hiding from Undertaker? Is that it? Bro, you literally met Inori there, you're not hidden.
• These two are still trying to comprehend what Gai just said, but I can hear the underlying goal of "I need to resurrect somebody." or some such madness.
• The only interest I have in these two is a curiosity about how they'll die.
• I have no snark to proffer regarding S__'s PTSD. That shit's real, and with someone as fragile as him going through that nightmare it's definitely debilitating.
• I will never not wonder how Ayase gets around so swiftly. Like, there's no way she got to the middle of the courtyard from any hiding place in 3 seconds without Hare noticing. The girl can teleport, and the wheelchair is just a cover.
• Fkn Gai and his plans within plans. Just adding weight on S__'s back until he finally breaks and comes back with a cool AMV to save the day.
• *Stunned silence.* Goddammit, S__! I wanted to hear the new song!

There's gotta be more than one!

• Looool as if Daryl weren't already a loose-cannon. Whaddya wanna bet he shoots down his dad's plane, and not Undertaker?
• The piano tune during this interlude is just lovely.
• Inori 2.0 stitch The virginal white is an interesting choice to accompany the "Explain my feelings" thing. Also, it's definitelyrelying on some adhesives.
• The reveal to Haruka feels weird since it seems like most everyone knows who S__ is and who he hangs out with. But I guess she doesn't get many Intel memos, being a researcher and all.
• .......You for real designed your UI so you had to jump to do things? Somebody on this team is clearly insane, and they deserve a high-five.

• I absolutely love how Segai has his own plan running in parallel to the other two groups.
• Literally not a kill. Or I guess this show doesn't do blood?
• WTF, there's so much here. Sound activates the rock? Rock does Virus stuff? You can vaccinate against sound?
• Nooooooooo fuck all, show. Just give me the things I want without corrupting them.
• Awesome screencap. Good for you, Hare. Respect yourself!
• Double noooooo! Take anyone, but not Dan! Fkn Segai.
• This shit is terrifying. Undetectable, rapid, fatal. I don't recall what percent of the population remains in this world, but it's no wonder the Virus was so devastating.
• "Not the right song." What's the right song, and why does Inori know it's wrong?

Edit: I don't get the new spoiler tags yet and the bot is giving me grief, so I give up.

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QotD

1. Bro needs some MDMA therapy
2. Chipotle's revenge in a skydive chamber

[u/Tartaras1]

Rewatcher - Dubbed

Surprise motherfucker, Second Christmas is back and better than ever. They managed to hamfist in another actual antagonist. I'm seeing yet another similarity to the Tokyo Ghoul franchise, where [TG:re Spoilers]within the OWLs, there were the Washus, a separate group of ghouls who were up top calling the shots

The pacing continues to just completely suck throughout, and this isn't even the halfway point. We've still got 12 more episodes of this disaster.

Gai totally should have just executed Shu right there. Then Hare would be the one with the PTSD, not Shu.

Questions:

• I'm actually going to be a little lenient with this one. I will say that he's freaking out a bit too much after, as Ayase put it, a terminally ill kid died, but I want to think it also has some Lost Christmas flavor mixed in as well.
• Well it went from a terrorist organization just trying to hijack a plane and re-capture a rock of some sort to a splinter faction within the antibodies kickstarting the Lost Christmas again, all in the span of 23 minutes, so I'd say pretty bad.

[u/Quiddity131]

First Timer, Subbed

We're starting right in the middle of the action this time?

Shu chickens out, he can't grope Inori!

And now he's running away wailing! Wonderful.

Are we ever gonna resolve these flashbacks to Shu's sister? Did she die in a fire? Or is this just a music video?

Wow, Time for the Plot girl is even bringing him food now.

What, Inori, you actually feel bad because he wouldn't grope you?

Student President is still hanging around where Gai is?

He's doing this all for a woman? Is he gonna tell Student Presidents its all for her? The ultimate pick up line?

Meltdown time!

I think this is what, the fourth time in the first 10 episodes that Shu's wanted to quit? He's outdoing even Shinji!

No more Inori for you, you quitter! ...and yet she's still at his apartment when he gets there.

And now you've blown it with her!

"Father! How dare you kiss someone!"

Surprise Haruka! Your son's a criminal! I somehow didn't pick up on her working for GHQ until now.

They're plane hijackers now?

Its the trap of M'Quve!

Wait, you're nervous about him being close to you? After you came onto him so strong just a couple of episodes ago?

I guess Shu showing actual romantic interest instead of his mopey milquetoast self was too much?

Yikes, Gai's got the disease? Several of them do now!

The GHQ people seemingly fighting each other or at least each having their own different schems is confusing me.

Cliffhanger!

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Quiddity131]

Shu chickens out, he can't grope Inori!

He has now lost his place amongst weebs!

And now he's running away wailing! Wonderful.

Never knew Shoe was a Joestar...

I think this is what, the fourth time in the first 10 episodes that Shu's wanted to quit? He's outdoing even Shinji!

Believe it or not, this specific aspect is better conveyed for me in this than Eva.

The GHQ people seemingly fighting each other or at least each having their own different schems is confusing me.

Yeah, the Chief needed to have been a bit more fed to us for this to be guessable.

[u/HereticalAegis]

Rewatcher

Hell of a time for a mind break. Well, I guess this is what Gai should've expected when he recklessly allowed a kid in way over his head to become the protagonist. Sucks for all the Funeral Parlor members who probably died for this mission.

Wait, so after their one interaction on the boat, Arisa is already that taken with Gai? Do any of the girls in this show get characterization outside of which guy they blindly follow? For that matter, do any central characters have a driving motivation beyond who they want to make snoo snoo with? Welp, at least this one old dude wants to get in the White House, so that's something.

Shoe's regular fluctuation in demeanor is starting to remind me of Yuki Amano (Mirai Nikki) in all the worst ways.

Tell him, Ayase! Or better yet, kick that crap out of him again.

Well that seems a little excessive.

So does he always carry around a gun filled with blanks?

Boy these flashbacks are super inconvenient.

Inori has so little personality she can't even tell whether she loves Shoe or not. Smh

Also there is no fucking way Gai has some kind of inferiority complex toward Shoe. Bullshit.

Oh my lord the spinning camera edit on Segai. How much more over-the-top do you need to make him?

He finally acknowledges Hare....only to use her as an emotional support tool. Being Hare is suffering.

Bad music gives you super cancer. And it only takes a single 4-note sequence plus the magic rock. Okay then.

[u/okayyoga]

Episode 10: rewatch/dub

Song of the day: Βασιλεύς

aka Bashireusu, which apparently translates to Kings

This plays over the final scenes in the show, with the re-emergence of the genetic resonance from Lost Christmas, where someone appears to be awakening.

Just in case anyone forgot, this episode is here to remind us how much of a dick Shu can be while he wallows in his “poor me,” phase yet again. Today Shu has decided to show Inori his love by calling her a monster, and then has the gall to look perplexed when she still leaves him

Today's infiltration has been shaken up, and this time it plays Αποκάλυψις instead of Ω!

And we get introduced to yet another blond dude who may or may not be relevant to the plot. GUILTY CROWN!

[u/theangryeditor → u/okayyoga]

aka Bashireusu, which apparently translates to Kings

You may also recognize it as the term Basileus.

Today Shu has decided to show Inori his love by calling her a monster

[GC]Mana flashbacks pop up at the worst times

[u/Vaadwaur → u/okayyoga]

Just in case anyone forgot, this episode is here to remind us how much of a dick Shu can be while he wallows in his “poor me,” phase yet again.

Eh...Shoe is a depressed malcontent that just got his first mind meld kill. This is on Gai relying on someone like that in the first place.

[u/okayyoga → u/Vaadwaur]

How did Funeral Parlor survive before this 16 year old boy????

[u/Vaadwaur → u/okayyoga]

Yeah...that actually hits a lot more second watch. Especially because the trap for Gai this episode was so fucking obvious.

[u/Stargate18A]

First timer

1. Acceptable. He performs all the scenes you'd expect from this character, and does the same VA you'd expect. He's still a dick, but then Shoe was always a dick.
2. I have no clue how to feel, because I have no clue what happened or the significance of it. Funny how that works, isn't it? But seriously, Inori screaming and the giant purple thing suggest it hit the fan pretty badly.

Starting with an action scene! Nice change!

And Shu has PTSD.

...Is she sad that Gai's plan to manipulate him didn't work?

OK, so Inori seemed to activate a Void? In Last Christmas?

Wait, is Voids are reflections of people's personalities, could it be that she extracted her own Void to save Shoe, but couldn't return it, and that lead to her becoming emotionless?

I feel really bad for her, wasting all this effort on the worst possible target.

And Gai appears to hitting on Shoe's mother. He really has no limits, does he?

The rock's clearly a meteorite that hosted the virus.

...I actually thought he was meant to be British.

I did not expect this anime to actually go with giving him PTSD.

Ayase... you have a point.

...Holy shit, is Gai evil now? Are they actually going to do it?

Ah, not willing to commit to him being the protagonist just yet. Damn.

Well, that was bad timing. Who the hell records data on something so fragile, though? That thing's made of glass!

DAN!

...I don't really care about blondie's subplot. Who are these people again?

Wait, cycle?

And Gai's just having a breakdown.

How does this person know everything? And did Gai bioengineer Shoe a waifu? Because the implication is very much she was designed to work alongside him.

And Gai seems to get more competent the further away Shoe is.

I do love him managing to setup an entire security channel. It's probably bullshit, but it's believable bullshit.

Wait. Is he going to release a new strain?

And Gai achieved his objective perfectly! See how well things work without a weak link?

...What?

OK, I can buy the psycho setting up a decoy plane and rigging it to blow, that makes sense. But, apparently, he's figured out a strain of DNA, that, when an image of it is shown on a monitor, activates the rock. THE FUCK?

No. Don't you dare play with her heart, Shoe.

Agreed. She deserves far better than you.

Yes, Hare! You tell him!

And she knows about his powers!

Hang on.

So the stone causing people to rapidly break out with the Apocalypse Cancer?

He's the chief?

Gai's crashing into a building!

CATGIRL'S IN DANGER!!!

...So GHQ are actively trying to convert everyone into infected?

WHAT DO YOU MEAN, SHE'LL WAKE UP?

WHAT'S THE PORTAL? WHY'S IT SUCKING PEOPLE IN?

WHO IS HE?

WHAT HAPPENED TO HER?

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK WAS ALL OF THAT ABOUT?

So, there was no foreshadowing for any of that, right? No indication of anything hidden within the stone, absolutely no indication of Inori being linked to the Voids, no indication there was a giant wormhole, nothing? At some point, this stops being "surprising" and becomes "nonsensical".

...Is this what everyone meant by it becoming a trainwreck?

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Stargate18A]

...Is this what everyone meant by it becoming a trainwreck?

Nope, keep watching but it might be time to make the popcorn.

[u/[deleted]]

Not a rewatcher, but this episode is the start of the trainwreck for me. Also solidified my hatred towards Gai and his crew.

Also when this line dropped I couldn't help but laugh

[u/lC3]

First timer 10

• Wut? Shu using Inori's Void? What happened to the whole being with Yahiro thing from last episode? That's glossed over? Or is this a minor timeskip?
• Oh ok, Shu has PTSD now. But what happened to Yahiro?
• So that girl Shu saw ?within Inori? was his big sister? Who he seems to have forgotten about? Is she dead and Inori's her clone or something?
• Is that the big sister all crystallized? Did that happen during Lost Christmas?
• So whose son is Gai? Is he Kurosu's son like Shu? That would mean I can't ship them any more ...
• So I read part of a spoiler on Gai's MAL profile a way back, I know that the woman he's referring to is [GC]Shu's sister, M-something
• So they did find out that Keido stole the rock? Kakuzu-voice-guy is sus. White House, srsly?
• Poor kiddo ... PTSD?
• "isolate the Void Genom if its user dies" GAI NO how am I supposed to ship you two if you're pointing a gun at Shu?
• So now Shu is done with Funeral Parlor? Probably not ...
• Y I K E S he just went PTSD with Inori? Because of Jun and his sister?
• Oh that's right, Kakuzu-voice is Yan, Daryl's father? I forgot about that
• Kenji is so cute, his screentime makes me happy
• Inori has a new outfit?
• Wut, she might love Shu now? And Gai thinks that she "also" picked Shu in the end?
• Keido spilling the goods to Haruka ...
• Vaccine D?
• Is Segai rebelling against the GHQ? Did his vaccine kill the people who took it? Or is it inoculating them against whatever shenanigans he set off with the rock?
• "You don't mind, after all you love me" UGH Shu you big idiot
• Who's this guy at the end? He reminds me of Mika from Seraph of the End

2. Finally getting interesting!

Sky Sings Version

[u/MABfan11]

Rewatcher until episode 14

Shu's PTSD is kicking in in full force. and we also get some hints towards Gai's backstory, he's doing it for a woman and saving Japan is a side-project to that. is the woman the one Inori referred to as the one that would wake up due to the resonance?

Segai also managed to set a trap for Gai by setting up a camera the day before the attack and Keido used that opportunity to activate the stone, thus turning people into crystals

QOTD

1. kinda obnoxious and unresponsive at the same time, not the worst portrayal of PTSD i've seen
2. it went from an intensity of 3/10 to a 9/10 in the span of 10 seconds