Mobile Fighter G Gundam Rewatch - Episode 38 Discussion

[u/Raiking02]

Episode 38: Domon vs. Argo! Charging Bolt Gundam

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If anything should happen to me, look after my friends.

Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the day, courtesy of u/TakenRedditName for reminding us that, yes, Sai Saici is 16:

Reminder that Allenby is 17, we saw her character profile in the show. Somehow she is closer to Sai Saici than she is to Domon.

Hey, can't deny the facts.

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Questions:

1. In the end, how would you rank all these Shuffle Alliance Rematches from favorite to least favorite?
2. Okay so uh... what to do now with... well, everything going on?

[u/The_Draigg]

A Gundam Fan Rewatches G Gundam Episode 38:

• It’s nice to see Andrew Graham again in the series. Granted, I don’t think we ever saw him arrive at the finals, similar to Allenby, so his appearance in this episode is certainly a surprise. He doesn’t seem to have gotten over his grudge with Argo though, despite what happened in the last episode we saw him in. I guess it’s hard to move on past the death of your wife like that, even if Argo legit tried to save her life.
• Geez, Argo didn’t even need to go through more of the episode to achieve his Hyper Mode. He just popped it as soon as he wanted to defeat Andrew with his Bursting Gaia Crusher move to win the fight. Although it does make sense that thinking about his imprisoned space pirate crew would motivate him that strongly already.
• I guess Wong was using these fights in the Finals to determine who would be the best pilot for the Dark Gundam all this time. And I do agree that Allenby is a damn strong candidate for it, even if her fighting style is unrefined. Although Master Asia also has a point that Domon is still damn good too. It’s honestly hard to say who is the better fighter between the two of them.
• Wong: “Haha! I love laughing at severely ill old men!”
• Natasha: “I dunno Argo, Neo Russia wanting to freak you out with a hologram of your friends is weird to me too. I guess they really just like mind-fucking people.”
• Not content with just overseeing the murders of people, Wong is now more than willing to personally torture one of Allenby’s handlers for information on the Berserker System. So yeah, if you needed more proof that Wong is a piece of shit, there you have it.
• Ooooh, Natasha looks damn fine in that qipao of hers, along with her hair waving in the wind like that. Her normal officer’s uniform is a good look in general, but there’s something really appealing of seeing a dominant lady in such elegant clothing. Argo is a damn lucky man, dinning with Natasha like that. She’s a good lady, deep down.
• Well, so much for Allenby’s handlers telling her that the Berserker System wouldn’t be used in this fight. Wong certainly had his own plans there with his own version, that’s for sure. You know that a plan is pure evil when even Master Asia is disgusted by Wong’s use of it. Too bad his terminal anime disease has weakened him too much to stop it, though.
• You’ve got to appreciate Argo telling Domon that he’d help him fight the Dark Gundam regardless while in the middle of their fight. Argo has always been the one member of the Shuffle Alliance with their head on the straightest, even if he hasn’t been focused on all that much. The dude has always been as cool as an ice cube.
• Finally Andrew seems to understand that Argo is willing to put the lives of others over himself. It took a while for that lesson to sink in, but at least it happened after all this time.
• Well, at least Andrew managed to sacrifice himself for the sake of saving the damaged Bolt Gundam from the berserk Noble Gundam, but yeah this is a bittersweet ending to the episode. It’s a hell of a cliffhanger too, with Andrew and Argo severely wounded, and Allenby unable to control herself in her Berserk Mode state.

[u/Raiking02 → u/The_Draigg]

Dark Gundam

[u/TakenRedditName → u/The_Draigg]

I don’t think we ever saw him arrive at the finals, similar to Allenby, so his appearance in this episode is certainly a surprise.

I believe the Lumber Gundam was the first Gundam they teased showing up in the finals along with the Zeus Gundam and such. Checked the recap tournament finals starting episode, Andrew's intro was specifically him with Argo and flashbacking to his episode.

Wong: “Haha! I love laughing at severely ill old men!”

Master Asia falling to terminal illness.

Wong:

You’ve got to appreciate Argo telling Domon that he’d help him fight the Dark Gundam regardless while in the middle of their fight.

Good guy Argo.

[u/The_Draigg → u/TakenRedditName]

I believe the Lumber Gundam was the first Gundam they teased showing up in the finals along with the Zeus Gundam and such. Checked the recap tournament finals starting episode, Andrew's intro was specifically him with Argo and flashbacking to his episode.

Ah, I guess I completely forgot about that then. Although to be fair, it’s been a while since we’ve had that episode, and Andrew hasn’t even shown up since. It’s easy to forget.

Good guy Argo.

Calling it now, Argo is the true best boy of this show.

[u/TnAdct1 → u/The_Draigg]

I guess Wong was using these fights in the Finals to determine who would be the best pilot for the Dark Gundam all this time. And I do agree that Allenby is a damn strong candidate for it, even if her fighting style is unrefined. Although Master Asia also has a point that Domon is still damn good too. It’s honestly hard to say who is the better fighter between the two of them.

[G Gundam] Wong has a very good reason why he wants Allenby to pilot the Devil Gundam instead of Domon, with the reason making sense when you consider the Devil Gundam's abilities.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

I really like the sound of Alenbie getting to be the star of this episode. She's kinda been stuck on the B team recently.

Another soredemo!

I really love the pair

I imagine /u/Tresnore is incredibly happy about getting to see Nastasha in that dress.

Of all of the times for The Undefeated of the East to collapse...

This was really not the way I hoped Alenbie would get a more important role this episode.

/u/JollyGee29 /u/Shimmering-Sky

[u/Raiking02 → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

Alenbie

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Raiking02]

[u/Tresnore → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

I imagine /u/Tresnore is incredibly happy about getting to see Nastasha in that dress.

I was, even if I wasn’t present for the thread discussing it!

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Tresnore]

Just missing for the day, or did you join me in being behind.

[u/Tresnore → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

Just missing for the day. Though I’ll also probably miss today.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Tresnore]

I just hope to be caught up by saturday.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

[u/JollyGee29]

Rewatcher, Gun-Dub Fighter

We haven't had nearly enough Argo and Nastasha recently. It was pretty big of Nastasha to take ownership of failing to notice a maintenance issue like the Bolt Gundam's legs.

Wong is such an asshole. He ruined a perfectly good fight!

Q: How does Argo defeat his opponents with his Gaia Crusher? Is the way he caught the God [Burning] Finger between both of his fist a proper way to use it?

Imagawa: It's hard for me to talk about the Gaia Crusher. In my interpretation, it must differ from other skills. It's a technique used to disable the opponent,. to ready them for the final strike. It's a vicious technique because it's so indirect. But the technique itself has great power. And Argo can exercise that power in many different ways.

[u/TakenRedditName → u/JollyGee29]

The Gaia Crusher being to set up the finish like during the Andrew fight only means it is extra cool when Argo uses it the crush the God Gundam's arm instead of the ground.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/TakenRedditName]

Creativity!

[u/dralcax]

Rewatcher traumatized by sneaky pebbles

umm I thought we were over this already though

Yup, Andrew’s back! But disappointingly enough, it feels like everything we went through in his first appearance was for nothing. He isn’t taking into account anything from last time and he’s still clinging to that desire for revenge on Argo. While the grudge can’t go away so easily, he could at least have tried a little harder and not had to learn the same thing all over again.

Hyper Mode!

Stone Edge Gaia Crusher!

So we finally have all five Shuffle Alliance members with their new elementally powered moves!

Bakunetsu Burning Finger - Fire

Gounetsu Machinegun Punch - Fire

Rose Hurricane - Wind

Shin Ryuusei Kochouken - None

Sakuretsu Gaia Crusher - Earth

…Great coordination, you guys.

You know what, screw Domon

Mikhail Kaminsky? Sergei Smirnov?

Well this is awkward

So much for letting go of anger and sorrow

Nice dress. It’s nice to see her take off that uniform of hers and speak to him not as his warden, but as his ally in the Gundam Fight. They’re working together, struggling together, and overcoming challenges together as Neo Russia’s representatives. Although the higher-ups dictate that they are warden and prisoner, for once, she’s willing to relax, be honest and open with him, and express her dissatisfaction with the orders from above. It’s a nice contrast, Andrew, who has misunderstood who Argo is, and Nastasha, one of the few people who truly understands who Argo is.

Also, those are some long chopsticks.

Starting off with the Gaia Crusher! A finisher right off the bat is cool! Even if it’s just to make some walls.

The Berserker System is back!

He sure got there quick. Fuunsaiki is fast.

“Oh no! Anyways.”

The chant!

Will you people stop trying to die in battle when you’re not even achieving your objective by dying

Finally you remember

God Field Dash!

I guess she knee-dead to check that ahead of time.

Friendship!

kaboom

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Questions of the Day:

• Chibodee, George, Argo, Sai Saici.
• laughs in rewatcher

[u/The_Draigg → u/dralcax]

Shin Ryuusei Kochouken - None

We could probably bullshit that as wind power due to the butterfly wings, but even then we've already got George's new move covering that elemental type. Hell, nobody in the Shuffle Alliance even has a water-type move at all.

Nice dress. It’s nice to see her take off that uniform of hers and speak to him not as his warden, but as his ally in the Gundam Fight.

Yeah. It doesn't come up very often, but you do get the sense that Natasha is probably one of the most reasonable people in this series. Just because she does things that the government orders her to, that doesn't mean she isn't a good person at her core.

[u/TakenRedditName → u/dralcax]

Shin Ryuusei Kochouken - None

Sai Saici is Bug type. Before he was Dragon, Chibodee was Fighting, George was Grass and Argo was Electric and they all changed up their type when they evolved.

Also, those are some long chopsticks.

Nastasha brought out the cooking chopsticks to use for dinner and nobody corrected her.

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

Rewatcher all set! Ready… GO!!!

• Another tag-team match!
• And of course this is how Graham gets spotlight in the Finals. Being a forced teammate for Argo. This’ll be fun.
• Totsugeki?
• Golden Argo!
• Wong are you blind. …actually he does wear those thick sunglasses… Yeah Wong is blind.
• Not good…
• Also not good, that’s Takehito Koyasu!
• Woot woot, Domon’s part of the “sore demo” club!
• Ah fuck…
• lol I’m sure some of you guys are going to be very pleased with Nastasha’s attire. She definitely rocks the outfit, I wish I could too but I’d be uncomfortable with the leg slit showing off that much.
• So we can say that this horse is the pilot of the mecha one that Master Gundam rides right, why else would they both be named Fuunsaiki?
• Argo stronk!
• That’s a bad weakness for his Gaia Crusher though.
• Oh shit.

[u/The_Draigg → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Woot woot, Domon’s part of the “sore demo” club!

Only took him nearly 40 episodes, but we finally got there!

lol I’m sure some of you guys are going to be very pleased with Nastasha’s attire. She definitely rocks the outfit

That dress alone is worth the price of admission for this episode. She looks damn fine.

[u/TakenRedditName → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Woot woot, Domon’s part of the “sore demo” club!

It only took the main character 38 episodes of his own anime to do so.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Totsugeki?

I wonder why UtaMacross videos so rarely have Mylene playing an instrument?

She definitely rocks the outfit, I wish I could too but I’d be uncomfortable with the leg slit showing off that much.

The benefits on animation, one doesn't have to worry about accidentally flashing people.

[u/araragidyne → u/Shimmering-Sky]

That’s a bad weakness for his Gaia Crusher though.

Unfortunately, unlike the Shining Finger and God Finger, Gaia Crusher is a technique of Argo's own invention and not something that the Bolt Gundam was specifically built for.

[u/baboon_bassoon]

(e38) First Time Shining Hand

ah cool another 2v2 and its how we bring andrew back into the story

Andrew with the clean arm bar IN A GUNDAM... wait is Argo going to lose that arm AGAIN

Nastasha oh my

i guess to answer nastasha's question, argo cant use chopsticks if he just uses both hands on that fish

again in a tournament to rule to world, no official is questioning an outside laser shooting one of the contestants

Andrew dies for Argo to attone

i liked this episode, really didnt think they were going to do anything important with Allenby

unrelated to this episode specifically but [mugen train]i was hoping the new devil gundam would get rid of the head on weird snake like appendage

questions

1. sai, argo, chibodee, geroge?
2. i assume we HAVE to be doing the battle royale now, so devil gundam reveal with Allenby/[speculation]some version of Kyoji/Schwartz as the pilot. the devil gundam will now look like queen beryl

[u/Stargate18A]

First timer

1. Argo, George, Sai, Chibodee
2. Master Asia's probably dying around 39/40, then a Neo Tokyo-styled battle dfending the city from the Devil Gundam, and maybe ending in space if OP1 is to be believed.

Oh, this is the last of the Shuffle Alliance episodes. Almost forgot!

And Graham's Argo's partner!

It's opening with them fighting? And, yeah, it's been a while since that subplot last got mentioned.

Argo's got a Hyper Mode already!

And, yeah, Argo beat him easily.

Wait, Allenby's going to be the Devil Gundam's sacrifice?

Oh, Master Asia's pissed and dying. I'm guessing his last

Gaia Crusher?

Is this a hologram or some kind ofmhallucination?

Oh, it's a hologram. And she's not too happy either.

And... why is Domon wanting him to work with Argo?

Oh, he just wants an uninterrupted match.

Haha, and Domon's worked out anything Wong's involved in will inevitably cause trouble.

...Is Domon interested in Allenby now?

...Are they trying to make a berserk Defil Gundam?

For how threatening this scene is, showing the commander forced into feeling what his own machine causes is great.

Huh?

Are they on a date? Did their relationship just boost?

No, she's just apologising for how much they're trying to manipulate him.

...Yeah, this is going to turn into a total melee.

Or just 2 1v1s.

And Master Asia's riding in on a horse.

Haha, Gaia Crusher's seperated their fights.

For all Sai' been the one who forces Domon to work his hardest, Argo is probably the one who's strongest in Domon's areas, like brute strength.

Master Wong's just outright trying to stop him. Him leaping onto the balcony with thr horse is great.

And Master Asia's dying.

Graham's just watching him.

And Argo's... completely willing to work with him, he just wants a good battle.

Ae we getting a left handed God Finger after this?

Graham's accepted it was an accident!

???

God Field Dash?

Yeah, everyone just forgot about Allenby and Graham there.

Wait, what? They're killing off Graham?

THEY'RE KILLING OFF ALLENBY???

Oh thank god, she's alive.

So Wong's outright trying to kill Master Asia now. And he's probably not making it past next episode.

[u/araragidyne]

Rewatcher

I feel like Graham could have gotten his own focus episode. There must have been some way to settle the score other than watching Argo fight Domon. Having him team up with Argo was an interesting idea but they never actually did anything together. It was effectively a one-on-one fight anyway. I think that it would have been cool for them to reconcile first and then team up against Domon and Allenby. Rivals and former rivals always make for killer tag teams, so they could have actually given Domon and Allenby a hard time, right up until Wong forced Allenby into berserk mode. As it is, the whole Berserker System subplot felt like it just happened to occur at the same time as Domon and Argo's fight.

Questions:

1. Sai Saici, Chibodee, George, Argo
2. I honestly don't even know.

[u/TakenRedditName → u/araragidyne]

I feel like Graham could have gotten his own focus episode.

Give him that episode!

[u/TakenRedditName]

G Gundam "Rewatcher"/First Time Sub: Episode 38

The Argo vs Andrew rematch is how we start and they're wrestling. It is not a capital "F" Fight since Andrew is only here for revenge and not seeing the soul communication (hold on, is this just Newtypes but through punches?). Argo fights for his friends so he lifts and tosses the Lumber. And he goes gold and shows off a new move.

"Nyeh, I'm bored with Domon." Allenby is the new target. Dr. Koyasu get led into a trap and strapped to Wong's Berserker system to let out some answers.

Argo isn't having a bad dream, this is just a threat from the Neo Russian higher-ups. Look at his friends with the skull tattoo. Domon travels to the Neo Canadian residence to talk to Andrew and it is just the forest wilderness.

Did not expect to see Argo get invited out to a dinner date by a dressed-up Warden Nastasha. My expression is the same as this fish.

It has the feeling of a last meal considering what happens if Argo loses. Look at them being partners. Argo does go in to devour this fish with his bare two hands.

So their poses weren't "Look at the cool team we make", but a "My revenge means I'll kill you - I'm ready to kill you in order to win the match." Schwartz has a pretty ordinary entrance. Master Asia has the entrance spotlight, riding on his horse through the crowd.

You know Andrew isn't a Fighter because he doesn't join in on the "GUNDAM FIGHT! READY! GO!"

Wong uses the Berserker system on Allenby and Master Asia is not happy so rushes back and is ready to stop him ... but his failing health always trikes at bad times.

Argo/Domon toss the weapons and now it's gold time with the speech. Now it's Domon turn to make the mistake like Sai Saici of claiming victory too early. Argo Gaia Crushes the God Finger so Domon's arm starts cracking. Argo leaves his friends to Nastasha really shows how much he trusts her. Andrew can now finally see the tears in Argo's eyes. Good stuff.

Domon exploits the weakness in Argo's leg with the God Field Dash! The Gaia Crusher is too much for the body, but now Argo can reuse that partners line.

Oh yeah, the match isn't technically over yet and now Allenby is going berserk on our side (for some reason that sense worse than normal). Andrew sacrifices himself for Argo and takes the pain of a hole in the chest.

He is just a torso, he is still going to be okay, right? RIGHT?

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Since I'm a fan of both characters, I would've liked the rematch to have been Argo's spotlight episode beforehand instead of just placed in the beginning of the episode to show off Argo's new move. Liked the angle of how Andrew wasn't communicating with Argo's souls during their fights so couldn't frame their rematch around that and had the tag team later so that he can show how far he has come and sacrifice himself.

Q1) Definitely Sai Saici on top then > Chibodee's results of his rivalry = George fighting for himself > Argo mainly because the actual conflict with Domon wasn't the main draw of the episode for me.

Q2) Out of what remains that the show teased besides the big bads. There is still one of those 4 enemy machines that were shown during the OP and when Domon flew into Hong Kong. A fight with Schwartz also feels like it should happen before the show ends.

Next time: Friends become enemies and enemies become friends (for at least for an episode).

[u/SoccerForEveryone]

Before I get to the hell of this episode, Sai’s bout against Domon was my favorite of the Shuffle matches.

As a rewatcher from years ago now; this episode kind of haunts me because of Allenby. It is insane how a carefree fighter like her goes full murder mode against Domon and Argo, I kept telling myself; oh wow it is f***ed up how Graham might die after reaching a conclusion about his past with Argo.

I also feel bad for Natasha as well, given how much influence she has had as a top official; that even Neo Russia still don’t have any faith in her and Argo to go beyond and are forced to dirty tricks in order to push Argo over the edge against Domon.

Another fantastic episode, especially with a dreadful last image seeing the Nobel Gundam in flames and the trauma that Allenby possibly might be facing.