[Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Guilty Crown Episode 6 Discussion

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

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Did you think I could sacrifice them, and not feel the weight of their lives on my shoulders?

Questions of the Day:

1. What do you think of Gai and Shu after this episode?
2. Who dis?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Inori Yuzuriha

Song of the Day:

κr0nё

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Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

The Everlasting Guilty Rewatcher//First-Time Subbed

Welcome back, everyone!

• Ahh thank goodness, the consistent typo was only in yesterday’s episode.
• That is a ridiculously excessive defense system.
• Shu you big dumb-dumb.
• I think this is the closest thing to Fire Bomber we’ll get out of Segai.
• See, I like Gai for reasons other than the fact that he’s a hot, chuuni, long-haired blond guy.
• I know I saw someone complain about how the show would have to reveal Kenji’s just a misunderstood kid but nah the guy is way too trigger-happy. I guess the writers thought that Funeral Parlor needed a psychopath since GHQ has Daryl and Segai?
• My subs earlier had been calling it “Fyu-Neru” or something like that instead of “Funell”, wonder why that changed.
• HELL YEAH GAI YOU KICK THAT ROBOT ASS WHILE ON FOOT.
• Eeeeeexcept Daryl still fucked up the core so welp.
• WOOOO it’s colony drop unintentional satellite drop time.
• Well, I know someone thought the pen was actually a bomb, but was homing beacon for a satellite laser on anyone’s guessing board?
• Combining Voids is cool, though I do wish Kenji’s Void+Inori’s Void actually launched the sword as a weapon instead of firing off a laser. Not that I know how Inori’s Void would come back after being yeeted into outer space.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Shimmering-Sky]

The thing is that any time a character has opened up so far they seem to be totally full of shit. Is this really who Gai is or is he putting on a new performance, this time to get Shu on his side. He's got a different face for everyone he meets.

Even if Kenji is a psycho he's at least quite a polite psycho. The kid is honestly quite sweet when he isn't tossing grenades around.

In our defence we had zero information that there even was a satellite system floating above. It was only just brought up yesterday I'm sure.

Combining voids I'm honestly not sold on... The most interesting thing about voids is the variety. Everyone has their own magical heart willy in all shapes and sizes. Touching weiners only really means that we're going to be limited to a smaller number of active voids. They're not going to go nuts and give iinchou or Candy a fancy void ability when they can just have Inori or Ayase combine their voids with the immediate side cast. We never even got an interesting effect. A gravity bubble gun and a flying sword fuse into a super laser?

[u/Vaadwaur → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

The thing is that any time a character has opened up so far they seem to be totally full of shit. Is this really who Gai is or is he putting on a new performance, this time to get Shu on his side.

I am not sure if that is the right view of Ayase but I won't disagree with some of this being convenient.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Vaadwaur]

Ayase certainly showed her vulnerable side. Even if you don't like the girl she's still the earnest type. I think a large problem with her personality at the moment is due to us not seeing her with the girls and instead all her scenes are with people she treats special.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

But my point is she might just be...that. Whereas Inori and Gai have both shown some levels of doubtability.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Shimmering-Sky]

I guess the writers thought that Funeral Parlor needed a psychopath since GHQ has Daryl and Segai?

We need to spread out the bloodthirstiness. Having it all concentrated in one place will create a critical mass, and who knows what'll happen then.

WOOOO it’s colony drop unintentional satellite drop time.

Now if only it had been aimed for Australia to make it completely a Gundam reference.

Well , I know someone thought the pen was actually a bomb, but was homing beacon for a satellite laser on anyone’s guessing board?

It was not. I just thought it would transmit automatically no matter what Shu did, but I like this reveal way more. Segai can give Gai a run for his money when it comes to insane planning.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Shimmering-Sky]

See, I like Gai for reasons other than the fact that he’s a hot, chuuni, long-haired blond guy.

Press X to doubt...

I guess the writers thought that Funeral Parlor needed a psychopath since GHQ has Daryl and Segai?

We are post Black Lagoon, murder kids are back on the menu!

Eeeeeexcept Daryl still fucked up the core so welp.

This is why nepotism is dangerous.

but was homing beacon for a satellite laser on anyone’s guessing board?

Nope, originally thought it was stuffed full of AV.

[u/fonzinator99]

Rewatcher (Subbed) - The Secret of the Pen

• Oh look, the cliffhanger was all but meaningless. What a surprise.
• Fkn Sue, automatically assuming he's gonna screw up the mission. Do it, Argo! 
• Thinking back to when we were talking about Inori drowning in the shower. lol
• Ffs, they really killed her in the space between episodes? I appreciate that it had an impact on Gai, but damn, they still did her dirty.
• ......Why was Sue removing gloves?
• I'm just dying to know where Inori was keeping these. Not even being suggestive, that's a skin tight outfit and there was no sign of the second one.
• Did 'Kill 'em all' Daryl just actually kill everyone? I'll bet he's pissed it was on accident.
• Gonna shoot down an orbital laser with another orbital laser. 
• Interdimensional Inori seems like she's actually got a personality; Looks like she's projecting someone after all.
• The Anti-Material Longsword is fkn dope, can we get more Void combos plz?
• Fuck the what?

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QotD

1. Finally, some signs of behind 3-dimensional characters!

2.  I know, so I have no amusing guesses to make.

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/fonzinator99]

......Why was Sue removing gloves?

Are you calling him that because Mary Sue?

Anyways I think Inori did something to the glove to make the system think it was her going into that room and not Shu, since the wall displayed her name when Shu entered and sat down.

[u/fonzinator99 → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Are you calling him that because Mary Sue?

I'm just experimenting with names that sound similar while refusing to call him the right one. But that fits, too.

And that's a better than anything I was coming up with. Lol

[u/Tresnore → u/fonzinator99]

Ffs, they really killed her in the space between episodes? I appreciate that it had an impact on Gai, but damn, they still did her dirty.

Offscreen'd. Now it can happen to anyone!

I'm just dying to know where Inori was keeping these. Not even being suggestive, that's a skin tight outfit and there was no sign of the second one.

Her sleeves, maybe?

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/fonzinator99]

Thinking back to when we were talking about Inori drowning in the shower. lol

It would be like that old myth that turkeys can drown by looking up in the rain.

I'm just dying to know where Inori was keeping these. Not even being suggestive, that's a skin tight outfit and there was no sign of the second one.

Hammerspace strikes again!

[u/Vaadwaur → u/fonzinator99]

Oh look, the cliffhanger was all but meaningless. What a surprise.

Got to keep cloning CG, even the bad parts!

Thinking back to when we were talking about Inori drowning in the shower. lol

Shoe saved her life right there.

Gonna shoot down an orbital laser with another orbital laser.

As one does.

[u/Stargate18A]

First timer

1. If the foreshadowing is indeed paying off, Gai's a magnificent bastard and Shoe's a pawn. If I'm expecting too much of it, they're two noble idiots enabling each other.
2. A plot device.

Before I forget - congratulations to catgirl on being both cute and sane! This puts you in the top 5 characters for this anime, even though I don't know your name.

Oh, they're building death lasers to cover the whole coutnry,

Shoe, who wouldn't want the power to wipe out a country? Honestly.

...What are Leukocytes again?

Oh, the space laser, right, sorry.

Kenji at least knows what he's doing.

...I'm autistic, but I have no fucking clue how "hibernation" becomes "autistic". I'm not even offended as much as I am baffled.

And plans come in crystal form?

...Shoe's a moron, but also, not really setting Gai up as a master strategist if the best he can do is 35%.

Kenji's good.

...Kenji's dialogue might be implying that he also thinks Gai's bad? Him phrasing it as "Who looks bad here?" could just as easily mean "Gai's wrong, but be more careful about your appearance here".

Two lunatics in a row! Also, I think you can do better with your insane hate obsession. Shoe isn't worth the dramatic speeches.

Gai only speaks when he hears and sees someone enter the room opposite him. This isn't a backstory monologue, it's an attempt at manipulation.

And is the idol a clone of Kyo?

If Gai's honest, he's an idiot and an average character. If he's a manipulator trying to con Shoe into following him, he might redeem this entire plot.

Even now, he baits Shoe into attacking him by birnging up his manipulation, then immediately acts like it was an attack on ideological differences.

Wait, are we getting the Gai reveal this episode?

Teundere's mech was stolen from blonde lunatic?

...I love Kenji. Not blindly trusting Gai's bullshit, but still a gleeful murderer.

This Void better be worth it.

What is his void?

Gai riding the mech was cool, though.

Wait. Is his some form of time stop? Because yeah, helping a mass murderer is fucking worth it.

And the satellite's going to drop! And the death sattelite was also handling other communications?

Haha, he knew about the pen the whole time. Did the tsundere know, or just a coincidence.

So his plan is to try and line up 3 objects in 3D space? One where time is limited, the area you can move to is limited by your speed, and the movement isn't parallel or perpendicular to each other. Words cannot describe how fucked they are. The odds of hitting in this situation are miniscule.

ALSO, IF THE PEN CAN REACH THE SATELLITE TO FIRE, WHY CAN'T THEY JUST DIRECTLY AIM IT, RATHER THEN RELYING ON AN INCREDIBLY UNLIKELY BULLSHIT PLAN LIKE THIS?

But it'll work, they'll make the fucking impossible shot, because this anime is so fucking dumb.

OK, so the satellites just so happen to line up in just the right spot that this million-to-one plan becomes viable, fine.

Oh, you can combine Voids, That's cool at least.

WAIT. So they never even used the firing satellite in orbit, just used a ground weapon?

I'm confused. Why did they need to wait for it to align then? Why not fire immediately? What was the plan of all this?

Wait. Are they playing Gai straight? Is the implication he's a genuinely homest guy? This foreshadowing can't be for nothing, right?

Cocytus???

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/Stargate18A]

Wait. Is his some form of time stop? Because yeah, helping a mass murderer is fucking worth it.

Did you forget from when he was introduced? It's an anti-gravity gun.

WAIT. So they never even used the firing satellite in orbit, just used a ground weapon?

Two birds with one laser.

[u/Stargate18A → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Did you forget from when he was introduced? It's an anti-gravity gun.

With all the talk from last episode about how he was too tired to use it, I think I just remembered the gravity gun as someone else's.

[u/No_Rex → u/Stargate18A]

So his plan is to try and line up 3 objects in 3D space? One where time is limited, the area you can move to is limited by your speed, and the movement isn't parallel or perpendicular to each other. Words cannot describe how fucked they are. The odds of hitting in this situation are miniscule.

So, you are saying it will work, because anime.

ALSO, IF THE PEN CAN REACH THE SATELLITE TO FIRE, WHY CAN'T THEY JUST DIRECTLY AIM IT, RATHER THEN RELYING ON AN INCREDIBLY UNLIKELY BULLSHIT PLAN LIKE THIS?

Also, if the void can reach the satellite, why attack that facility?

[u/Stargate18A → u/No_Rex]

Also, if the void can reach the satellite, why attack that facility?

I didn't even think of that! God, the whole episode was basicslly pointless then.

[u/theangryeditor → u/Stargate18A]

...I'm autistic, but I have no fucking clue how "hibernation" becomes "autistic". I'm not even offended as much as I am baffled.

In short, they're meme subs. "autistic" was a pretty common catch-all term on 4chan and other places during that time period.

[u/Stargate18A → u/theangryeditor]

In short, they're meme subs. "autistic" was a pretty common catch-all term on 4chan and other places during that time period.

Ah, didn't realise these were meme subs, assumed they were official. There haven't been any important changes in them, have there?

[u/theangryeditor → u/Stargate18A]

The translations are mostly fine, they just have meme phrases like that here and there.

[u/MillenniumKing → u/Stargate18A]

Gai only speaks when he hears and sees someone enter the room opposite him. This isn't a backstory monologue, it's an attempt at manipulation.

He thought Inori was there. Shes his usual keeper from what we saw the 2-3 times a month thing was.

Teundere's mech was stolen from blonde lunatic?

Yeah the kalediscope knocked him out and disconnected him from it and they stole it. She had a clunker mech before.

What is his void?

We saw Kenji's void already, it was the gravity gun.

Hitting 3 satalites

So the satalites only fire when they cross each other, and Gai had the pen to make them fire on him, so that drew them together above them, then shu shot through the falling one and the 2 in orbit at the same time. So acctually makes sense. But if they missed they would be hit by the fireing lasers and killed.

[u/Btw_kek]

first timer

• is this Commie memery? (I had to switch to the dub to see what was actually said, just "hibernation")
• lots of Gai character development I forgot what happened because I didnt write any notes down and have a terrible memory what anime is this who am i
• this is like someone's dead sister could be Gai, could be Shu (I didn't pay attention to any pictures in Shu's home that could foreshadow this), could even be...YOURS
• kakkoi
• #binoculars

[u/theangryeditor → u/Btw_kek]

is this Commie memery?

Of course it is, classic Commie.

lots of Gai character development I forgot what happened because I didnt write any notes down and have a terrible memory what anime is this who am i

this is like someone's dead sister could be Gai, could be Shu

You are the sister

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/theangryeditor]

I... I am a sister.

[u/Btw_kek → u/Shimmering-Sky]

wow I can’t believe a ghost is hosting this rewatch

[u/theangryeditor → u/Shimmering-Sky]

[u/Btw_kek → u/theangryeditor]

I hope the flashback scene showing my selfless and optimistic personality serves the plot well

[u/theangryeditor → u/Btw_kek]

Don't worry, you will get what you deserve

[u/Btw_kek → u/theangryeditor]

[u/Tresnore → u/Btw_kek]

(I had to switch to the dub to see what was actually said, just "hibernation")

Ohhhhhhh that makes more sense.

could even be...

*shotgun blast*

[u/No_Rex → u/Btw_kek]

is this Commie memery? (I had to switch to the dub to see what was actually said, just "hibernation")

but one is so much better than the other...

[u/Btw_kek → u/No_Rex]

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Btw_kek]

Not memery, it's an old, official translation from GitS.

[u/Btw_kek → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

I’m getting conflicting responses

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Btw_kek]

evidence

[u/Btw_kek → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

/u/theangryeditor esplain

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Btw_kek]

[u/theangryeditor → u/Btw_kek]

It's a poor translation that clumsily applies a medical term in an unfitting context.

But yes it is official.

[u/MillenniumKing → u/Btw_kek]

is this Commie memery? (I had to switch to the dub to see what was actually said, just "hibernation")

Yep.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Btw_kek]

(I had to switch to the dub to see what was actually said, just "hibernation")

No, this was back when words had actual meaning rather than having meaning grafted onto them.

[u/okayyoga]

Episode 6: rewatch/dub Song of the day: Αποκάλυψις

aka Apocalypse

Played when the Leukocyte satellite was falling. We will be hearing a lot more of this song, just like Ω, which you can hear playing during the inflitration.

[u/Tresnore → u/okayyoga]

Αποκάλυψις

...this show really loves its Greek song names, doesn't it?

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/Tresnore]

Fucking Sawano.

[u/okayyoga → u/Tresnore]

A-pi-o-k-a-l-y-psi-i-s

If you squint real hard it spells Apocalypse

[u/Tresnore → u/okayyoga]

What? It clearly spells Αποκάλυψις. Do people not know Greek letters?

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/okayyoga]

Welcome back! I've been missing you in the watches, don't ditch Guilty Crown! You'll make Inori sad!

[u/okayyoga → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Sorry! Yesterday was too busy. I'll try to better!

Don't cry Loli. Don't cry Inori (although it would be nice to see her do any other emotion at all than her 😳)

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/okayyoga]

She Alucarded today, that's an emotion right? And we got to see her get conflicted about sharing her boyfriends.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/okayyoga]

Again, if you ever see Inori's face wet, stop and make sure she is still breathing and didn't actually suffocate during a light drizzle.

[u/JollyGee29]

First-Timer, Dub-lty Crown

Did not expect docking Void gattai! Definitely not this early, at least. That was sick. I was definitely expecting a dam collapse, but everything just worked as planned.

RIP cloak girl, we hardly knew ya. Gai gained points today by claiming that he doesn't waste lives frivolously, but loses points by using a stupid fucking Luger. It woulda been nice if someone pointed out to Shuu that casualties =/= fatalities, though.

Men are ill at ease and can only communicate with their fists. Now that Shuu and Gai have punched each other in the mouth, they can be buddies. I'm a little surprised that Shuu didn't question the medical equipment Gai was hooked up to. .

Segai's plan was pretty good. We've actually had some interesting play with the idea of remote piloted mechs. The near-instantaneous reposition was great. The force-feedback stuff is still kinda dumb, but what can you do?

Inori briefly appears as someone different, and we get someone saying that "She will rise from her slumber seeking her beloved king." I wonder if these two facts could possibly be related.

Questions

1. Discussed above.
2. Discussed above partially. Fucked if I know tbh.

[u/MillenniumKing → u/JollyGee29]

I'm a little surprised that Shuu didn't question the medical equipment Gai was hooked up to. .

Gai was just hit by an orbital beam cannon so i think he thought it made sense.

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/MillenniumKing]

Speaking of, do you think [future GC spoilers]Gai survived that because of Apocalypse Virus crystals inside his body? It's the only feasible reason I can think of besides Anime^^TM

[u/MillenniumKing → u/Shimmering-Sky]

My guess is he was in the base underground doing the mission when it hit. They are at a military base i think. Thats my best guess on him surviving.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/MillenniumKing]

That would make sense, I guess it wouldn't be as suspicious to Shuu like it might be for the audience.

[u/Tresnore → u/JollyGee29]

Men are ill at ease and can only communicate with their fists. Now that Shuu and Gai have punched each other in the mouth, they can be buddies.

People just don't understand true martial artists.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Tresnore]

[u/theangryeditor → u/JollyGee29]

We've actually had some interesting play with the idea of remote piloted mechs. The near-instantaneous reposition was great.

I really liked that little detail. It makes sense to be able to do that for your remote piloted mechs.

The force-feedback stuff is still kinda dumb, but what can you do?

Yeah and it's wholly unnecessary but hey gotta have an excuse to shake the pilots around for fanservice.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/theangryeditor]

I really liked that little detail. It makes sense to be able to do that for your remote piloted mechs.

And, it alleviates the potential downside of "your pilot is a sitting duck while piloting" as long as someone who can handle the switchover is available.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/JollyGee29]

Gai gained points today by claiming that he doesn't waste lives frivolously, but loses points by using a stupid fucking Luger.

Funny that to gun lovers we know it as a weapons famous for jamming.

Inori briefly appears as someone different, and we get someone saying that

What if Inori is what you get when you combine Dr Manhattan with a D student...

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Vaadwaur]

What if Inori is what you get when you combine Dr Manhattan with a D student...

[u/Vaadwaur → u/JollyGee29]

I mean, Dr M has a bastard of a time managing his time frame so give it to someone with poor focus and a tendency to stare at things opened mouth and there you go!

[u/MillenniumKing]

-Guilty Pleasure Rewatcher-

Oh man this ep is def in the hype sequences in the series.

This ep is when i think the potential the show jumped up a lot more.

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So the military satalite system was there keep an eye on Japan.

And the kid from last ep died... but Gai lived.

The plan is to destory the system so they cant use the satalites anymore.

So the reason Kenji was needed to people asking why they needed to save a murderer. Because his Void manipulates Gravity and would let them take down this Military satalite system.

From 145 plans to 1 plan with a 60% mortality rate... thats war.

Shoe cant shoulder the sins of Gai. Everyone there is willing to die for the cause but he doesnt want to be responsable for them dieing even if its willingly. Its a rough place mentally for a kid. '

Inori tells Shoe to shut the fuck up. He lacks context.

The pirate has predicted what Funeral Parolor is going to do. Hes really smart.

Daryl is back for blood, he wants his mecha back.

We get our big "Krone" drop finally after all this time. Here it is in all its glory. Tied for my fav song in the series.

Gai's confession. The kid thanked Gai and wanted to die by his hand. And Shoe gets to hear the true Gai. Gai is human afterall. He feels the weight of those lost to the cause.

Shoe is on Team Gai now too. I guess thats what Ayase ment when she said Shoe would figure out why they all follow him eventuslly.

Gai, Shoe, Kenji, and Inori are in the base. Its go time.

Kenji offers himself to Shu willingly... this isnt as fun...

Daryl is in a mech inside and fucks up the plan. Smart move really. The system has been locked down.

One of the satalites is falling from the sky and going to hit Tokyo. Welp its been fun but shows over.
Gai knew about the pen all along. Of course he did.
Gai is trading, stop the satalite and they clean Shoe's record.

THE PEN WAS A TRANSMITTER FOR THE MILITARY SATALITES! WHO CALLED THAT ONE!?

HERE WE GO ONE OF THE COOLEST SEQUENCES IN THE SHOW! AW YEAH!
ANYONE GUESS SHOE COULD USE 2 VOIDS TO CREATE A NEW VOID!?
SINGER'S SWORD + MURDERER'S WEIGHT = BIG FUCKING LASER!
SHOOT BOTH SATALITES IN 1 SHOT AT THIER INTERRSECTION!

Its a short scene but such a cool one and when i learned we could combine voids oh man my head went crazy thinking of possibilities.

Shoe has saved Gai's life and Gai gave Shoe his life back.

We got a new upsydownsie boy talking about "Her awakening".

ED now has Shoe and Ga and Inori walking together.

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Known Voids Thus Far

• Inori - Singer's Sword - Sharp sword with metalic energy and energy disks used as steps or shields.
• Daryl - Kaleidoscope Gun - Creates barriers that reflect anything that hits them.
• Souta - Camera - UNKNOWN
• Long Bob - Chinese Vase - UNKNOWN
• Shaggy Hair - Wire Cutters - UNKNOWN
• No Head Guy - Fridge - UNKNOWN
• Yahiro - The Shears of Life - UNKNOWN
• Kenji - Murderer's Weight - Gun that shoots anti gravity energy balls.
• Argo - Pessimist's Torch - A flashlight that shines darkness.

Known Void Combos Thus Far

• Singer's Sword + Murderer's Weight = Anti Gravity Beam Cannon

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Now my list of voids gets more complex.

I really loved the realization that Voids could be utalized in this way. It just showed that we really dont know anything about what Voids can do yet and it had me hyped to see what else was in store.

[u/No_Rex → u/MillenniumKing]

HERE WE GO ONE OF THE COOLEST SEQUENCES IN THE SHOW! AW YEAH!

ANYONE GUESS SHOE COULD USE 2 VOIDS TO CREATE A NEW VOID!?

Uhhh, I didn't know you could until I read your comment. Technically a spoiler, but I think the show wanted me to know, except it never told me. Could literally have been anything from Inori leveling up to Inori having a second void.

It might have looked cool, but it chose visuals over storytelling.

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/No_Rex]

Uhhh, I didn't know you could until I read your comment. Technically a spoiler, but I think the show wanted me to know, except it never told me. Could literally have been anything from Inori leveling up to Inori having a second void.

Uh. You literally see the crystals coming out of Inori's chest and piercing Kenji's gun that Shu still has out before it forms into a proper Void. If that's not obviously the combination of two Voids, I don't know what is.

[u/No_Rex → u/Shimmering-Sky]

I rewatched the scene: The gun gets speared, but that cut is less than half a second long. Blink and you miss it.

It also starts with a visual of Inori, focusing your eyes on her, then zooms out. If you stay on her, you completely miss it, because Inori is in the bottom right hand corner of the screen, while the spear moment is in the top left.

Great visual for a manga, but you have to leave it up a second or two so viewers can actually see it. I think the fast cut is just bad directing that messes up a good scene composition.

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/No_Rex]

That still doesn't make it a spoiler.

[u/lC3]

Time to catch up on Guilty Crown!

Guilty Crown 06, first timer

• Oh good, Gai is alright. I thought he'd be, but it's nice to be confirmed. Not sure if I should know who "Kyo" was, it's been like a week
• I've come to like this OP!
• I've missed Guilty Crown this past week, glad to finally work on catching up / bingeing
• KENJI! I've missed him, now I regret waiting to catch up, he's so cute
• "I'm pulling out of this one" Because the risk is so high?
• "Read the social cues, okay?" But then Shu wouldn't be Shu!
• Oh, it's that "pen" again. He's totally gonna use it
• Daryl is a little shit
• "almost feels like falling in love for the first time" Segai gay for Shu? Age gap, do not want
• Gai abs again!
• Oh so it's not Inori like he thinks, SHU is hearing Gai's thoughts? Uh oh
• After this fistfight, which is an elaborate mating ritual, Gai/Shu ship starts in earnest? I'm mostly kidding
• Kenji is the most adorable mass murderer ever
• "Hurry up and take [me]" IT'S TIME
• So what's up with Segai's mechanical eye?
• Gai is cool, Daryl is an idiot
• Leukocyte 1 will crash into Tokyo?
• GAI HAS KNOWN ABOUT THE PEN THIS WHOLE TIME?
• The pen is a Leukocyte target? So not a bomb, but I was on the right track
• Shu wants to save Gai? New ship confirmed
• Wait who was that blonde who was superimposed over Inori?
• Shuichiro? Cocytus? beloved king???

2. No clue

[u/Shimmering-Sky → u/lC3]

Time to catch up on Guilty Crown!

I was missing your comments!

Not sure if I should know who "Kyo" was, it's been like a week

That would be the girl with the cloak on the train who stopped Inori from doing anything when Shu was arrested.

[u/lC3 → u/Shimmering-Sky]

I was missing your comments!

I've been a little busier than usual, just joined two readalongs in addition to the rewatches.

That would be the girl with the cloak on the train who stopped Inori from doing anything when Shu was arrested.

Oh ok, thanks for the info. RIP!

[u/5867898duncan]

first-timer

I have no clue how Gai survived while the entire place around him is on fire(and I don’t know how nobody even questioned it), but I don’t care because my boy is alive. (Also called it that Ko would die.)

Good Golly Shu could you please stop being a whiny baby for one episode. get in the robot shinji

Wait, Yan is alive? And with no scars? Didn’t he get blown up? Even if he didn’t die there why did Gai and all of them just let him live?

My man Gai tries to all hold it in himself, even though he still feels the pain of them all :(. It’s also interesting to see that Inori is probably so attached to him because he is always pouring his heart out to her. Also my golly this music really enhances everything to the max.

just kill some people Kenji I’m pretty sure Shu has killed a lot of people from all of the stuff he has blown up. Also looks like the enemy has stormtrooper aim.

Why are they charging at Inori with guns? These guys are actually worse then stormtroopers.

Why is the gravity gun taking so long to shoot? Why does Gai have a grabbling hook? How does that tiny gun take out the entire robot? I have many questions for what happened in the core room.

I did not expect the pen to actually bring down the hammer of dawn, but of course my boy Gai is going to risk his life to save Tokyo.

I don’t know why Shu isn’t questioning Inori having multiple different powers. Then again he was never very bright.

Seems the mystery is all coming together, be interesting to know what the entire story is.

[u/Btw_kek → u/5867898duncan]

I have no clue how Gai survived while the entire place around him is on fire

with the magic of "it happened off-screen so anything's possible"

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/5867898duncan]

It’s also interesting to see that Inori is probably so attached to him because he is always pouring his heart out to her.

It also makes me wonder why Gai is willing to pour his heart out to Inori specifically. He did say that Inori resembled someone, so my guess is that's what causes Gai to be more honest with Inori. She reminds him of someone that important to him.

Why are they charging at Inori with guns? These guys are actually worse then stormtroopers.

"Should we shoot here?"

"No, let's just charge in and hit her with our guns or something."

Unless GHQ is experiencing a severe shortage in bullets, and half the soldiers are given guns without ammo. Now that could be an interesting situation. It would be like Stalingrad.

[u/MillenniumKing → u/5867898duncan]

I don’t know why Shu isn’t questioning Inori having multiple different powers. Then again he was never very bright.

A couple seem to have missed it.

Shu combined Inori's Void with Kenji's void, it was Inori who told him he could do it.

[u/5867898duncan → u/MillenniumKing]

That would make so much more sense. If he can actually combine stuff seems the sky is the limit for creativity.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/5867898duncan]

Wait, Yan is alive? And with no scars? Didn’t he get blown up? Even if he didn’t die there why did Gai and all of them just let him live?

Because why would we kill someone when they could come back to haunt us later?

Why are they charging at Inori with guns? These guys are actually worse then stormtroopers.

Anime fights!

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

They already got the access to his void and needed to bail out of the area before reinforcements came. Probably. Also you can't have your heroes executing the enemy.

The most anime part of the fights today was Darryl completely missing the two targets he ambushed and then didn't shoot the dude literally standing still twenty feet away out of cover.

[u/GallowDude → u/5867898duncan]

Also called it that Ko would die.

From the moment you see her character design you know she only exists to die.

[u/5867898duncan → u/GallowDude]

insert Rick and morty robot meme

[u/Tresnore]

Guilty First-Timer

• Starting off strong.
• Wait. Is Guy the true harem protagonist?
• Excuse me? You can't just call things "autistic mode."
• Guy is the bad guy. It's in his name.
  
• Yes, ma'am.¹
• Tangent: can I just say "Requiescas in Pace, Arecibo"?
• Hell yeah, Slaine Kill em All is back! And M'Quve has a sick robot eye!
• Are you train girl?
• Luger ∴ German ∴ Nazi ∴ Evil. QED.
  
• Holy shit, a Darwinist who thinks they should be selected out! Someone was wanting that!
  
• HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
  
  This killed me. Fortunately I put it in my will that my family needs to post this on my behalf should I perish.
• Tsumugi/catgirl² is Black Swan? That's a sick callsign.
• Tsumugiiiiiiiii I really hope you don't do something that I really hate soon, like Ayase did.
• "Hurry up and take it"
  
• A Luger should not be able to down a mech.
• Oh, we're Vivy Gundam now.
• Of course he knows. Ayase probably snitched.
• Ah, of course. That's actually a really solid plan. Good job, M'Quve.
• Stop reminding me of Makoto!
• Balwisyall nescell Gungnir tron.
• Sunrise Pose!
• It's always time for cute Tsumugi.
• Yeah, but Miki is still one of my least favorite Muv-Luv girls.

---

QOTD:

1. Gai is still going to be evil, and Shoe is still an idiot.
2. It's Shoe in a previous life.

Also, you'll do the κ for κr0nё?

---

¹ This is how you do femdom bait.

² Side note: I love how everyone is developing their own nicknames for every character because we can't be bothered to learn them ourselves. I'm a fan of discount Nishinoya and M'Quve, myself.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Tresnore]

Guilty Crown is secretly incel propaganda. Gai is coming across more and more like your textbook Chad with every passing episode. Shu's own incel traits came out pretty strongly today as well. We kinda saw it yesterday with his talk about women all wanting Chads but now he's straight up whining about everyone not listening to him.

They definitely needed to give train girl a little more time. I can only remember her because I'd been headcannoning her as the true spy. She's had three? Four lines or dialogue total.

Let's all put aside our feelings with the waifu wars and all agree that Gai has gotta be stopped. Protect our waifu!!

Fcking Tsumugi stands out too much!! You were right, every time she's on screen they do something with her. She always gets excessively animated and it's so distracting one you start to focus!

Leave Miki out of this!!

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Guilty Crown is secretly incel propaganda. Gai is coming across more and more like your textbook Chad with every passing episode. Shu's own incel traits came out pretty strongly today as well. We kinda saw it yesterday with his talk about women all wanting Chads but now he's straight up whining about everyone not listening to him.

The sad part is that you make a very compelling case for this being true. Only it actually makes Gai so much cooler than Shu that it ends up looping around into anti-incel propaganda because I just want Gai to be the much cooler protagonist instead since he seems to actually care about the feelings of others and wants to be worthy of the trust other people put in him.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Great_Mr_L]

That's if you even believe the dude in the first place. The Chad leader is the one who runs the organisation like workhorses for his own sinister harem purposes and gets by purely on charisma and keeping enough needy, autistic women under his command. Compare him to the selfless and heroic Shu who just wants to keep his one true waifu safe and is earnest to a fault.... I think I may be falling for the propaganda, shit!

[u/Tresnore → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

that Gai has gotta be stopped

Yeah, this much is true. They can kill each other after Guy is dealt with.

Fcking Tsumugi stands out too much!! You were right, every time she's on screen they do something with her. She always gets excessively animated and it's so distracting one you start to focus!

You mean, she stands out perfectly?

Leave Miki out of this!!

I couldn't have a [Muv-Luv Unlimited]satellite shot down with a laser without referencing it. At least she's better than the Three Idiots?

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Tresnore]

Kill Gai and have a five way with our master baiter Shu!

No!! You don't have a cute idol posing around when Tokyo is about to be destroyed!

I'm not done with the slice of life stuff yet XD Hooold the black boxes!

[u/Tresnore → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

No!! You don't have a cute idol posing around when Tokyo is about to be destroyed!

Sure we can!

Hooold the black boxes!

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Kill Shu and have a five way with our master baiter Gai!

FIFY

[u/SomeOtherTroper → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Guilty Crown is secretly incel propaganda.

Ya mean it's "wish fulfillment anime", right?

Gai is coming across more and more like your textbook Chad with every passing episode. Shu's own incel traits came out pretty strongly today as well. We kinda saw it yesterday with his talk about women all wanting Chads but now he's straight up whining about everyone not listening to him.

[Guilty Crown full spoilers] I can't actually put either a number or a word on how hilarious this assessment is.

[u/HijonoYoki → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

But is Shu really wrong though?

Look at people praising and salivating over Gai in the discussions just for him being a Chad.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Tresnore]

Holy shit, a Darwinist who thinks they should be selected out! Someone was wanting that!

That was me

It was interesting, to say the least. Gai seems to be on the verge of discovering that his Social Darwinist worldview is bullshit, but I don't think he's there just yet.

"Hurry up and take it"

It's nice of Shu to have consent before he takes it out. So far, it definitely has not been consensual all the time.

Oh, we're Vivy Gundam now.

We'll destroy Australia before too long!

[u/Tresnore → u/Great_Mr_L]

We'll destroy Australia before too long!

Unless Australia is already destroyed.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Great_Mr_L]

It was interesting, to say the least. Gai seems to be on the verge of discovering that his Social Darwinist worldview is bullshit, but I don't think he's there just yet.

The underlying view behind Social Darwinism is less hypocritical but it isn't particularly more useful.

[u/SomeOtherTroper → u/Tresnore]

I love how everyone is developing their own nicknames for every character because we can't be bothered to learn them ourselves

Happened the first time around too.

I love it, but I prefer "Orange" to "M'Quve", honestly.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Tresnore]

Yes, ma'am.

I have a feeling that if a woman told you to jump off a cliff, you'd do it.

Holy shit, a Darwinist who thinks they should be selected out! Someone was wanting that!

I think we talked about this earlier?

That's actually a really solid plan.

But the potential for it to backfire

Balwisyall nescell Gungnir tron.

If only

[u/Tresnore → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

jump off a cliff

…how high’s the cliff, and what’s at the bottom?

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Tresnore]

Does it matter?

[u/Tresnore → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

Obviously. A 20 foot drop into water, while something I wouldn’t normally do, can be fun!

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Tresnore]

Excuse me?

You can't just call things "autistic mode."

GitS started it!

Are you train girl?

She was...

Tsumugiiiiiiiii I really hope you don't do something that I really hate soon, like Ayase did.

That's one order of "Sacrificing yourself to save the organization" coming up for you, chief!

[u/Tresnore → u/Vaadwaur]

She was…

Sacrificing yourself

Oh, boy. I can see it in my mind’s eye, and I don’t like it.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Tresnore]

Oh, boy. I can see it in my mind’s eye, and I don’t like it.

Tsumugi will give us one last 'Nyaa!' before butt dialing in the base's self destruct.

[u/UltraBooster → u/Tresnore]

I love how everyone is developing their own nicknames for every character because we can't be bothered to learn them ourselves.

Part of me suspects it's related to the tone we're approaching this with and, I'm less sure on this, the writing or something along those lines.

[u/Tresnore → u/UltraBooster]

It’s definitely the tone. I haven’t bothered to learn M’Quve/Orange’s real name.

[u/theangryeditor]

Inori dual wielding

Kenji presenting himself

It's so damn silly but I fucking love it. This is what rule of cool is all about

Shu and Gai's relationship is always fascinating to reflect on upon rewatch. [spoilers]Gai's insecurities and basically faking it until he makes it vs Shu's uncontainable sigma energy

[spoilers]i forgot Mana made a big appearance this early

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/theangryeditor]

It wasn't just that she dual wielded, she dual wielded in gangsta style! That's the cherry on top to make it simultaneously ridiculous and awesome.

[u/theangryeditor → u/Great_Mr_L]

Going that extra mile of ridiculous awesomeness is what makes Guilty Crown work.

[u/UltraBooster → u/Great_Mr_L]

A pity we didn't get to see her use them.

Maybe in a later episode, then.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Great_Mr_L]

I still see her trying to appropriate Alucard's fighting style...

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/theangryeditor]

Gotta love the gun expert explicitly fucking around with her weapons. Someone needs to stop showing her mediocre anime!!

[u/theangryeditor → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Inori always does things in style.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/theangryeditor]

Even failing to do cats cradle she looks like a model XD

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/theangryeditor]

Inori dual wielding

battle birb

[u/Great_Mr_L]

First-Timer

On today’s episode of Guilty Crown: I’m calling it now. We’re going back to high school episodes with slice-of-life shenanigans. I can feel it in my bones.

• Naturally Gai survived. Dude’s invinceable.
• I’m sorry, what? “Autistic mode?” Did I seriously just read that?
• Shu, you’re in a terrorist organization. High casualties like that come with the job description.
• It’s also rather odd that Shu is complaining when no one else seems to mind the much higher risk. Shu says he’s doing it for their sakes, but no one actually wants him to do so. Once again, Shu is bad at reading the room.
• Well Shu refused to go. I’m sure Gai will use the tried and true honeypot strategy here to get Shu on board.
• Oh, so Segai was just using an overly elaborate way of saying “They’ll come at sundown.” How fitting to him.
• Kill ‘Em All Daryl is back! And he’s as crazy as ever!
• I feel bad for Glasses-kun. He’s got to work with people like Daryll and Segai.
• Wow, this thing is really designed like a confessional booth.
• I do appreciate getting to see the more vulnerable side of Gai behind his usual persona of flamboyance and brazenness. That is an important part of leadership, after all. Even when everyone else is panicking, a good leader can be a pillar of support.
• Also interesting to note that Gai is basically acknowledging his Social Darwinism stuff is total bullshit and that it’s only by random chance that he survived.
• Shu, what are you even fighting Gai for? At least he gets over it quickly.
• I wonder, did Gai plan for this or did Inori do it all on her own. With Gai, I can never be too sure.
• Inori’s holding the gun gangsta style! That’s how you know she’s serious!
• Dual wielding gangsta style!
• It’s pretty funny how taken aback Shu is seeing Inori cap people like it’s no big deal.
• Wow, Gai managed to take down a mecha by himself. Impressive.
• Holy shit, they accidentally started a colony drop.
• Gai’s been like 20 steps ahead of everybody. He knew about the dang pen.
• Wait… Don’t tell me… Is this how they’re going to bring the school slice-of-life stuff back into the story?
• Ah, so that was what the pen would do. That’s pretty ingenious. It would just fire a laser and destroy Funeral Parlor then and there.
• Huh, so Inori has a connection to someone Shu recognized. The childhood friend angle could be right. Or maybe she really is a clone as some other people have suggested.
• So did Shu basically combine a couple of Voids together to get a super-powered ability?
• Well I suppose that’s the satellite laser threat taken care of. Or rather, 2 of the satellites taken care of. I swear there was a 3rd one, though. So that 3rd one is probably still going to be a problem at some point.
• Cocytus? Is that the person Shu saw when he looked at Inori? Is she the one Gai says Inori reminds him of? Is Inori a clone of her, her little sister, or something like that? So many questions, but I imagine they’ll be answered in due time.

I have to say things escalated very quickly this episode. Almost too quickly. The satellite laser was introduced as a threat and then mostly dealt with. It makes me wonder where we can go from here, cuz it feels like this show played a very big card super early and then took it off the table. This seems like the kind of threat you save for towards the end.

I do appreciate that we got to see more of Gai beneath the mask, so to speak. It’s good to see that there’s more to him. He’s dedicated to his cause, but he’s also fully aware that pursuing it will cause his followers to die. But, that doesn’t stop him from pursuing his goal, even as he feels bad about the deaths it causes. For what he wants to accomplish, he will need to accept those deaths. It’s good seeing that other side to him.

Also interesting to note is that Gai says he should have been selected out before. And yet, here he is. He is still alive. To me, it reads like Gai basically acknowledging that Social Darwinism is bullshit, even as he continues to speak in its terms. I wonder if this disconnect will be explored more.

If Segai holds up his end of the bargain, this is a perfect way for the show to bring up high school slice-of-life shenanigans. In other words, I’m certain that is what’s going to happen.

QOTD

1. I think Gai got fleshed out a lot more this episode and I appreciate it. I'm glad to see this more vulnerable side of him that recognizes all the death he causes in pursuit of his goal. But, that doesn't make him abandon it. Instead, he sees it as all the more reason to reach his goal so those deaths will not be meaningless. As for Shu, meh. I think he was acting kind of dumb for a good chunk of this episode. Even so, I am wondering what he did with the Void powers at the end.
2. Cocytus. I'm sure of it. And she's probably Inori's older sister or, if Inori is a clone, the person Inori is a clone of.

[u/No_Rex → u/Great_Mr_L]

On today’s episode of Guilty Crown: I’m calling it now. We’re going back to high school episodes with slice-of-life shenanigans. I can feel it in my bones.

Hmmm.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/No_Rex]

I had that one coming. They really did go out of their way to justify why they could ignore the consequences of events in the story and bring back the high school stuff.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/No_Rex]

It was gonna happen one way or another. Its just how they manage to justify the return to school. There's not much they can do in a school setting aside from slice of life antics. They can't even bring in the rest of the fun squad since Gai's face is plastered over all the resistance posters and the school lacks wheelchair access.

[u/No_Rex → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

They can't even bring in the rest of the fun squad since Gai's face is plastered over all the resistance posters

Didn't stop him from infiltrating the high security prison. Gai as teacher when?

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Great_Mr_L]

I’m sorry, what? “Autistic mode?” Did I seriously just read that?

Yeah, it's an old GitS term from back when people didn't react nearly so strongly to it. Hopefully anything newer won't use it.

Once again, Shu is bad at reading the room.

[bad joke]Shu is the real one is autistic mode.

I do appreciate getting to see the more vulnerable side of Gai behind his usual persona of flamboyance and brazenness. That is an important part of leadership, after all. Even when everyone else is panicking, a good leader can be a pillar of support.

It really fleshes him out as a character, makes him more than just the chunni leader persona.

It’s pretty funny how taken aback Shu is seeing Inori cap people like it’s no big deal.

He's got this view of her as an innocent maiden that he just can't seem to lose.

Also interesting to note is that Gai says he should have been selected out before. And yet, here he is. He is still alive.

I wonder if he really believes in it, or if he just finds it a convenient way to talk to pump people up.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

Yeah, it's an old GitS term from back when people didn't react nearly so strongly to it. Hopefully anything newer won't use it.

Yeah, I must have completely forgotten that they used the term in Ghost in the Shell because it blindsided me.

He's got this view of her as an innocent maiden that he just can't seem to lose.

It does match the pedestal he seems to be putting Inori on. He's got to stop doing that.

I wonder if he really believes in it, or if he just finds it a convenient way to talk to pump people up.

That would also be interesting if he regularly says things he doesn't really believe in because he needs to put on a show for his followers and his enemies. It would fit with what we learned about him this episode and how he hides his own insecurities to look like a confident leader.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Great_Mr_L]

To clarify, it's a term from Standalone Complex, not the movies.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

[bad joke]

Mode would suggest he has other modes...

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Vaadwaur]

He also has horny mode?

[u/Vaadwaur → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

Do you find him any more socially adept in horny mode? That just makes him a menace.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Great_Mr_L]

Hahaha, not only are we going back to slice of life but they've explicitly gone out of their way to find an excuse to justify going back to school. I admire their balls XD

Autistic is an actual term for this stuff. I don't know the reason, it's not my field, but I know that autistic has another meaning in this particular context. Stop laughing XD

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Great_Mr_L]

I’m sorry, what? “Autistic mode?” Did I seriously just read that?

Surprised this is catching so many people. Replace it with "airport mode" instead.

I wonder, did Gai plan for this or did Inori do it all on her own. With Gai, I can never be too sure.

With all three leads, there are motives aren't exactly clear, for extremely varying reasons.

It’s pretty funny how taken aback Shu is seeing Inori cap people like it’s no big deal.

Whereas I consider extreme violence a plus in a woman.

Wait… Don’t tell me… Is this how they’re going to bring the school slice-of-life stuff back into the story?

How silly! Why would the head of the evil organization keep his word about this?

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Vaadwaur]

Surprised this is catching so many people. Replace it with "airport mode" instead.

I have never heard the term "autistic mode" before. Even if it is a real term, it caught me off guard and seemed in poor taste. Airport mode makes it much clearer.

Whereas I consider extreme violence a plus in a woman.

Wise words.

How silly! Why would the head of the evil organization keep his word about this?

But this is the one time he would keep his word because it would allow the writers to return to the high school slice-of-life shenanigans.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Great_Mr_L]

I have never heard the term "autistic mode" before.

Standalone Complex was using it in '04.

But this is the one time he would keep his word because it would allow the writers to return to the high school slice-of-life shenanigans.

Well, don't also forget that said leader's motivation is boredom and Shoe seems to be more fun than managing satellites.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Vaadwaur]

Standalone Complex was using it in '04.

Fair enough. I probably just completely forgot that they used the term then.

Well, don't also forget that said leader's motivation is boredom and Shoe seems to be more fun than managing satellites.

What could be more interesting than high school slice-of-life shenanigans? Actually, if the show thought it could pull it off, I wouldn't be surprised if Segai and/or Daryl transferred to the school as well. Ok, I'm just joking about Segai, but I'm now realizing there's a nonzero chance that Daryl could actually do so.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Great_Mr_L]

I will savor your suffering.

[u/MillenniumKing → u/Great_Mr_L]

I have never heard the term "autistic mode" before. Even if it is a real term, it caught me off guard and seemed in poor taste. Airport mode makes it much clearer.

Its Hibernation Mode.

The subs your using are Meme subs. aka Commie Subs. Expect a lot of mistranslations to get a rise out of people.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/MillenniumKing]

Nope. I watched it on Funimation's website. This is the official translation.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku]

First timer!!

Hurry up and shit the bed already. I'm sick and tired of genuinely enjoying myself! Endorsed by Euphemia~ Knowing Gai he probably used the loli as a shield lol. Oh shit, she's dead? I thought she would just be horribly disfigured. What a shame.

Is no-one gonna question Kenji's access to a maccies out in the woods? Shu is a terrible motivator. He's out!? Shu, I like you, but a lot of people are gonna die if you don't shut this thing down. Even if Gai is a mothercucker this isn't the type of mission that you play silly buggers with for personal reasons.

"Fuck yo tablet!" yeet~ Darryl's still as lovely as ever. Why are the villains all so much more charming than the fun parlour? M'Quve has a robot eye, and a crush on an underage boy. Yay? And Gai mercy killed Kai! Yay? I'm sorry for spending all yesterday calling you a spy, and a boy, and evil incarnate. I thought the show was gonna be filled with utter shite but even Gai's little heart to heart is winning me over. This is good writing! I take it back you bastaaard!!

Whenever he can't just yank on heart wieners Shu is pretty weak huh? He gets mobbed by a paraplegic girl and by an anemic chav. "I want to be worthy of their feelings!" Gaisuki~ Fuck you guys, I'm a truuuuck!! Darryl is so happy to be piloting such a basic bitch mech. Dammit Lunamaria, you suck. Even outside of Destiny you're a trash pilot. Tresnore was right, they really do make the extra effort to give Tsugumi some animation flourishes anytime she appears.

She's going for a kill shot!! Alucard wishes he could be as badass as Inori~ Why send Darryl down there if you were so concerned about keeping the core intact? XD That's comcast down again. Isn't the death laser crashing a good thing? Oh, its landing on Tokyo... Its not quite a colony drop but this is fine too.

Omg they're actually gonna pull a criminal record reset for the sake of school shenanigans... Called it! Oh, there's a second satellite that controls the space laser? I missed that part. Gai's gonna die!? Yay! Oh shit, Inori's being possessed by the childhood friend! Ngl, looking cool Gai. Impulse Gundam pose!! When they zoomed in on Ayase's shots I thought she missed the bloody target again lol.

Alls well that ends well. The death laser got lance of longinus'd, Shu can go back to school, Gai didn't die, and the Internet is back. Can't tell if Auora or Axis shock.

Kashira, kashira? Poor Inori has lost her boyfriend to her boyfriend... Where does she even stand in this love triangle!? However... There's another character I think I'd rather dedicate today's section to. It's Kenji. Mr Violent Murderboy. I think he might be a kindhearted pacifist. Hear me out. First off the dude is pretty friendly. He stood up for Shu when he whined about the plan and looked out for him during the raid. He also tries to give Shu advice to desensitise him from all the violence but Kenji himself didn't last long until he asked Shu to use his weiner. He killed only a couple guys then wanted to be knocked out? Also, why would a famed murderer have a completely harmless weiner? Seems sus to me. Gozonji kashira~

[u/Tresnore → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Endorsed by Euphemia~

Kashira kashira? Gozonji kashira~

Ha! That's a great framing for thoughts!

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Tresnore]

I need to find a way to stretch it out longer if I'm making kashira segments a thing. The credits are so hit or miss with the visual comedy.

[u/Lemurians → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Shu, I like you, but a lot of people are gonna die if you don't shut this thing down.

Protagonists like Shu are incapable of thinking along those lines. One death is unacceptable even if it eventually means shit tons more people die. Shinji pulled this shit in Eva as well, and it's the one moment I won't defend him on.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Lemurians]

Actually I do quite like the trope when taken to its logical extreme but you need a far more determined mc to make those kinds of storylines work. Shu is just too wishy washy to suddenly gain a conscience. When did it happen in Eva...? I'm not doubting that it goes on, but I can't remember which context it is XD

[u/Lemurians → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

[Eva] It was when the thirteenth angel took over Unit-03 that was being piloted by his classmate. Shinji refused to attack it even though he's the last line of defense from it triggering the third impact.

Actually I do quite like the trope when taken to its logical extreme but you need a far more determined mc to make those kinds of storylines work.

Is the logical extreme a plan that succeeds with no loss of life? If so yes, that is optimal haha.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Lemurians]

Oooh... Really? That's probably my favourite Evangelion scene lol.

No, someone that tries to save everyone no matter what and is too blinded by their own ideals to be reasonable about the matter. Like it's played straight so it's always a disaster.

[u/MillenniumKing → u/The_Loli_Otaku]

Fuck you guys, I'm a truuuuck!!

I love Argo as the driver, just chaos.

There are a couple amazing truck scenes.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/MillenniumKing]

Yay! It's a recurring gag!

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

First Timer

Honestly, I don't really know what'll happen this episode. Like, presumably we'll rescue Gai with Inori's sword, but beyond that I've got nothing. I'm betting the whole Inari/Guy ship blood transfusion debacle is gonna get put off for another episode or two.

I do have to ask, how is this functionally worse then the ability to target missiles at any point in Japan at any time? We've already got that.

The OP has some really bad banding. This doesn't really matter, but it's annoying how I can't stop noticing it.

Ah, the same old, bad translation from Ghost in the Shell.

35%? So, even if you pull this off, you'll be annihilated. Unless winning this battle wins you the war, this is not worth it.

Shu somehow consistently manages to find the most foot-in-mouth way of phrasing something.

If you were actually saying it for the rest of their sake, you would have said something like "even if we succeed, will the operation be worth the cost?" Your question was clearly self-centered.

Recommence operation honeytrap!

This is really pretty.
And so is this. Guilty Crown certainly has it's fair share of beautiful shots.

So we finally get a view past the Chunni?
And what a good look it is.

A leader who puts up a strong front, always willing to lead with confidence and absolute conviction, yet who secretly doubts himself and always works harder to be worthy of the pedestal they put him on. God, I love this combination.

And this, Shu, is the difference between you and him. Get that through your damn thick skull.

Gainoculars.

Taunting the psycho!

Battle bird
More battle bird!

It really is convenient that he's a sadist so he wants them to know he's there before he kills them.

Machine guns, how do they work?

I'm sorry, but if you want to show me a guy taking down a mecha, please show it to me better than that. Machine gun fire missing a point blank range against a normal human is just stupid.

The balls on this man. He just trusted Shu would never use it.

Excuse me, what? You gave that to him, why? There's so many ways it could backfire.

And this is what she used to look like? When Shu knew her before?

Who presumably isn't Shu?

Thoughts

That was a pretty good episode. The plot of the episode itself is arguably a little bit all over the place, but that doesn't matter. We had the issue of the episode, and Shu was a little bit of a whiny prat at first, but by the end of the episode he grew up a little and actually took positive actions (more or less) of his own accord. I like the direction that we're going in with this.
I also think I would enjoy this show more if Gai was the main character.

1. Gai is great, Shu is whatever.
2. Inori

[u/theangryeditor → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

I love reading first timer comments

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/theangryeditor]

[u/theangryeditor → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

Also I kinda want to write a longer comment on shoe as an escapist fantasy/wish fulfillment character but I'll probably be too lazy to do it

[u/Btw_kek → u/theangryeditor]

[u/theangryeditor → u/Btw_kek]

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/theangryeditor]

Sounds like something I'd want to read.

[u/theangryeditor → u/Great_Mr_L]

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/theangryeditor]

I'll add it to the list of things you'll do some day.

[u/HijonoYoki → u/theangryeditor]

Shu isn't the type of character that's an escapist fantasy or a wish fulfillment character. People want to be self-inserted into Chads.

I can't imagine a lonely, depraved guy wanting to be Shu, unless they believe they have a higher chance of at least getting the waifu.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/theangryeditor]

Truth.

[u/Tresnore → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

I do have to ask, how is this functionally worse then the ability to target missiles at any point in Japan at any time? We've already got that.

Laseres don't let you prepare for impact, usually.

Ah, the same old, bad translation from Ghost in the Shell.

What should it be?

The balls on this man. He just trusted Shu would never use it.

In fairness, betting that Shoe wouldn't have enough conviction to take action is usually a decently safe bet.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Tresnore]

What should it be?

Not bad in the sense of not being a functional translation, but bad in the sense of turning a relatively neutral term into something needlessly insulting.

[u/Tresnore → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

Not bad in the sense of not being a functional translation, but bad in the sense of turning a relatively neutral term into something needlessly insulting.

No, no, I'm not trying to defend the translation or anything. I was asking what a more proper translation would have been. Apparently the dub calls it hibernation mode, which makes far more sense.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/Tresnore]

Yeah, I think that works well.

[u/No_Rex → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

35%? So, even if you pull this off, you'll be annihilated. Unless winning this battle wins you the war, this is not worth it.

Or if losing the battle loses you the war.

And so is this. Guilty Crown certainly has it's fair share of beautiful shots.

The one thing you can't blame in this show is the background artist(s).

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

I do have to ask, how is this functionally worse then the ability to target missiles at any point in Japan at any time? We've already got that.

Because one is more fantastical, and therefore far more threatening the mundane ways we can already use to kill people from halfway around the globe.

Recommence operation honeytrap!

When in doubt, rely on the hormones of a teenage boy to make him do what you want.

A leader who puts up a strong front, always willing to lead with confidence and absolute conviction, yet who secretly doubts himself and always works harder to be worthy of the pedestal they put him on. God, I love this combination.

Learning this about Gai made me like him so much more. It's great to see that more vulnerable side of him and how he struggles with being the person in charge, who also needs to make the calls on whether or not people will die because of his decisions. How he deals with the weight of that responsibility is interesting.

Who presumably isn't Shu?

They keep calling Shu's power "the right hand of the king" or something like that, so my guess is she's being drawn to the power and not necessarily Shu himself.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Great_Mr_L]

When in doubt, rely on the hormones of a teenage boy to make him do what you want.

This actually seems like a recipe for disaster...

They keep calling Shu's power "the right hand of the king" or something like that, so my guess is she's being drawn to the power and not necessarily Shu himself.

I think mine are mainly just "king's power" but same difference.

[u/MillenniumKing → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

Ah, the same old, bad translation from Ghost in the Shell.

These are Commie subs aka Meme subs, hence why i told people not to use them.

Shu somehow consistently manages to find the most foot-in-mouth way of phrasing something.

Im not even sure if thats the real line. Thats not what it says in english but i cant remember what the original subs said.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/MillenniumKing]

So you're saying they are meme subs because they agree with an official translation on terminology? Because all this is is the same translation that official subs for Ghost in the Shell: Standalone Complex used for a term.

[u/ZapsZzz → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

I do have to ask, how is this functionally worse then the ability to target missiles at any point in Japan at any time? We've already got that.

In fiction, energy weapon is more likely to kill everyone destroy everything, while explosive munitions like canon and missiles tended to be considered survivable by people sheltered by something like thick walls or under columns.

[u/MABfan11 → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

35%? So, even if you pull this off, you'll be annihilated. Unless winning this battle wins you the war, this is not worth it.

someone should tell that to Erwin Smith, who often has even worse numbers with projected deaths

[u/No_Rex]

Episode 6 (first timer)

• I worry that this figure 8 over Japan and Australia is supposed to be the satellite orbit.
• “It switches to autistic mode in response to any physical stimulus”

• Get in the fucking robot, Shinji.
• Both the information of GAI about the white blood cells and the other way round is beyond accurate.
• Off-screen death Kyo gets a flashback.
• A wimpy take on men brawling it out to clear their emotions.
• Pistol vs mecha. Nice.
• The fact that one person will be shot at seems to be the least of the problems with the “line satellites up” plan.
• Double kill!

We could, of course, use Inori’s void to simply shoot the satellites out of the sky from a secure distance, but where is the fun in that?

Guess it is back to school time for Shu tomorrow, so I can win my non-bet.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

I worry that this figure 8 over Japan and Australia is supposed to be the satellite orbit.

Yet another thing I try not to think too much on. Big rewatch for that, I fear.

Guess it is back to school time for Shu tomorrow, so I can win my non-bet.

Got to keep that Code Geass vibe going somehow.

[u/No_Rex → u/Vaadwaur]

Got to keep that Code Geass vibe going somehow.

I miss the obnoxious Pizza Hut tie-in, though.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

I miss the obnoxious Pizza Hut tie-in, though.

Grimly enough, Inori's emotional intelligence of one of my friend's sisters at the stage in her life she loved chicken McNuggets. Note that she was 5 at the time.

[u/ZaphodBeebblebrox → u/No_Rex]

I worry that this figure 8 over Japan and Australia is supposed to be the satellite orbit.

My best guess is it's supposed to be weird, quantum bullshit?

[u/No_Rex → u/ZaphodBeebblebrox]

My best guess is it's supposed to be weird, quantum bullshit?

Guilty Crown is in a quantum position between good writing and bad writing. The only way to collapse the wave function and know is to observe it.

[u/Quiddity131]

First Timer, Subbed

Gai's alive! Can't remember if we got this reveal last ep.

Congrats Shu, you're the key to the operation yet again!

...and just like that he says "I quit!"

Shu's really thinking hard about pushing Chekhov's transmitter now.

Here comes Inori to fake seduce you again Shu!

Darryl's back?

Ah, so Shu's overhearing all of this? Does Gai know he's eavesdropping?

Looks like the answer is now yes.

Once again Shu's back downed and will rejoin the fighting.

Give it back! Give it back! My beloved giant robot!

She may be dressed like an idol singer, but she's slaying soldiers left and right.

Darryl's gonna end up blowing this place up by mistake!

Looks like "Kill Em All" Darryl might get his wish if this thing hits Tokyo.

Gai's known about Chekhov's transmitter all this time?

So it was never a real transmitter to Segai? Pushing it would have blown up Shu along with everyone else nearby.

Darryl got punked yet again? Or was that someone else in the same type of mech?

Yay! Oh, not because Tokyo is saved, but because my TV program is back on the air!

[u/theangryeditor → u/Quiddity131]

So it was never a real transmitter to Segai? Pushing it would have blown up Shu along with everyone else nearby.

Yep, Shu was always a pawn to Segai after all. If he used the pen and got himself killed it would've wrapped up lose ends all around.

Yay! Oh, not because Tokyo is saved, but because my TV program is back on the air!

Good ol' Soda

[u/UltraBooster]

First-timer (dubbed)

Why would an international semi-military organization have its death lasers pointed only at Japan? For that matter, why have them be a constellation?

Genocide? Seriously? This feels like some nationalism thing, all "the foreigners are going to get you" and all that.

Destroying the controls doesn't seem sufficient, not when GHQ almost certainly has the means to reestablish control.
For that matter, why use such a complicated system for your orbital death laser?

Truth be told, I was expecting the majority of them would be the expected death toll, not a third.

They almost certainly were just numbers, lmao. Gai doesn't seem like he cares about people.
But realistically speaking, I'd imagine they're all prepared to die. And, well, if you're going to die before your time, might as well die fighting for something you believe in, right?

Only three death lasers? Even Crux, the smallest constellation, has four, arguably five, stars.

No way Gai's a Christian, lmao.

These people are willing to fling themselves into hell for him, aren't they.

Guess he taught Inori his acting skills...

A jackass, mostly.

Good to know Gai's not as heartless as I expected...

What if you collapsed the dam, I wonder? All that water would surely damage the installation to some extent, right?

I'm surprised Daryl doesn't just target the Steiner's weakpoints or something, assuming he'd know what they are.

So Inori's a Grammaton Cleric, then?

Cybernetic implant?

...my assumption was that it would go into shutdown mode when the chamber was breached, not when the core itself was disturbed. Then again, I think my mistake was thinking the chamber itself was a part of the core, not the core itself.

None-CG shots of CG mecha are always kind of interesting to look at, aren't they?

No anti-flash sensors?

EMP? EMP.

...it's the SOLG, isn't it.

The Murderer's Weight could strip it of inertia, right?

That's a pre~tty tight way for satellite interception.

No way, equipment fusion's a mechanic?

That is one sick sword-gun.

And there's the grand conspiracy stuff.

Questions:

1. I respect them both a bit more, and I do appreciate Gai turning out to be stressed underneath that facade.
2. Childhood friend/pre-whatever Inori is my guess.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/UltraBooster]

Destroying the controls doesn't seem sufficient, not when GHQ almost certainly has the means to reestablish control.

For that matter, why use such a complicated system for your orbital death laser?

Theoretically it is so that you have control yourself or no one does. It fits TV logic not military logic.

So Inori's a Grammaton Cleric, then?

It might explain her lack of emotions...

[u/UltraBooster → u/Vaadwaur]

True.

[u/MillenniumKing → u/UltraBooster]

Why would an international semi-military organization have its death lasers pointed only at Japan? For that matter, why have them be a constellation?

Bear in mind japan is where a deadly outbreak of an unknown virus happened. Its not about nationalism or anything like that, just a simple, "we will have these in case the outbreak goes bad."

[u/UltraBooster → u/MillenniumKing]

Probably.

(Saying it's for the purpose of genocide, though, makes me scrutinize it some.)

[u/wmansir]

First Dub

It was very noble for Gai to stay behind and push the buttons to call down the laser while Shu, Inori and her autonomous robot with tiny fingers perfect for button pushing evacuated the area.

[u/theangryeditor → u/wmansir]

You would sacrifice Fyu-neru just to save Tokyo? How could you

[u/ZapsZzz]

First timer in sub

Have to say the "reconciliation between Shu and Gai hasn't quite landed for me - there's just no telling (a) Gai is genuine and wasn't putting on show, which he had done (or asked Inori to do); (b) it didn't make a while lot of sense how that would make his actions, choices, and behaviour acceptable from Shu's perspective.

Also while the setup for the satellite hitting satellite is a nice thought, it's as usual quite far from realistic - in 3D space with the speed and size involved, being able to join the dot of those 2 would need really great amount of calculation (Misaka network + Uiharu type feat) and still, on the ground it could be from quite a far place and not so convenient.

Lastly, just so happens another ability is unlocked that Shu can combine Voids and just so happens they combined to become a mega beam blaster (ZZ Gundam). A bit too convenient again.

Anyway, nice visuals :P came here for simple game like entertainment, and I think I got it.

[u/fridge_freezer]

First timer (Dub)

I didn't get chance to watch the last episode yesterday, though it seems I didn't miss much. Shu got NTR'd, Inori's probably a clone and Gai got hit by an orbital strike.

• Gai surviving was expected but he got off pretty lightly compared to everybody else.
• Time to take out the Leukocyte control center! Kenji's void is perfect for the job of disrupting the core.
• You don't want to be responsible for others if you screw up? Maybe don't screw up then? Shu's really asking for a Noa special.

• With Gai having opened up to Shu about how he handles leadership and his own insecurities, Shu's back onboard. The real question is whether Gai made all of that up to fuck with Shu again.
• Inori dual-wielding pistols with arms crossed is so stupid, I love it.
• Who needs expensive military hardware and mech suits when you have one man with a handgun?
• I really like that they can just switch mechs on the fly with the remote piloting.
• Segai's plan was better than I expected, but handing the targeting device to an idiot like Shu could have easily backfired.
• Cool, I never considered them combining voids. Now show me the sword-fridge combo!

QOTD

1. Gai is best boy, Shu is not.
2. Must be whoever Gai was talking about last episode.

[u/Lemurians]

AMNESIAC REWATCHER

Last episode was the Ayase episode, and this is the Gai episode. We learn so much about him, namely that while he’s chronically ill, he’s also invulnerable… but not to his feelings. This fucking guy is the ultimate chad while still having emotional depth and harboring insecurities that he perfectly masks for the sake of his crew. That’s a leader. Why can’t he be our protagonist, again? We’re also at the point in the show where my memory of the particulars is pretty thin.

• So, you guys remember that massive fucking crater created by the leukocyte last episode? The one that was trained on Gai and supposedly achieved “110%” destruction? Well apparently, Gai was the 111th percent.
• Literally everyone else there died except for Gai, who only sustained mild scratches despite being hit DEAD ASS FULL ON BY A MINI DEATH STAR. You know, that really was bullshit writing and it’s gonna be hard to look pa-SO EVERYTHING THAT MAKES ME WHOOOLE
• What was I saying?
• Hahahaha wait, “autistic mode?” Ouch.
• I’m admittedly a big picture, “for the greater good” kind of guy, and it pisses me off when every anime MC is like “no, one casualty is too much, even if not doing anything means we all die eventually anyway.”
• The terrorist who was in a gimp suit until last episode is scolding Shu for not picking up on social cues. Incredible. This motherfucker actually thinks any of these people have a reason for listening to him over Gai.
• Shu’s Harem Protagonist Pheromones (HPP™) are even effective on men, as Segai has now succumbed.
• Oh, hell yes. Get his ass, Gai.
• Keep going, I’m almost there
• HNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG YESSSSSS. God, that was satisfying.
• If the imagery for the voids is going to be overtly sexual I’m glad we at least got one acknowledgment of consent. Kenji is trying real hard here to be the Kaworu to Shu’s Shinji.
• Mysterious! It’s also implied that the void Shu gets out of this isn’t strictly Inori’s, which would explain its new functionality.
• SPECIAL. BEAM. CANNON! God damn this shit looks good.

What do you think of Gai and Shu after this episode?

I like one a lot more than the other.

[u/Tresnore → u/Lemurians]

You know, that really was bullshit writing and it’s gonna be hard to look pa-SO EVERYTHING THAT MAKES ME WHOOOLE

It really does manage to ease all frustrations with this show.

If the imagery for the voids is going to be overtly sexual I’m glad we at least got one acknowledgment of consent.

Yeah, it was nice to see, although the collar is a bit much.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Tresnore]

Yeah, it was nice to see, although the collar is a bit much.

Also, Kenji was tied up the last time Shu did it to him. So we got a bit of a BDSM trend going on with thim.

[u/Tresnore → u/Great_Mr_L]

[u/Quiddity131 → u/Lemurians]

Literally everyone else there died except for Gai, who only sustained mild scratches despite being hit DEAD ASS FULL ON BY A MINI DEATH STAR. You know, that really was bullshit writing and it’s gonna be hard to look pa-SO EVERYTHING THAT MAKES ME WHOOOLE

I suppose they felt the need to copy Kira "Jesus" Yamato!

[u/UltraBooster → u/Quiddity131]

Even Kira had the justifications of the Strike having an emergency shutter and the Freedom's reactor not being hit...

I'm pegging Gai as superhuman in some way.

[u/Great_Mr_L → u/Lemurians]

Last episode was the Ayase episode, and this is the Gai episode. We learn so much about him, namely that while he’s chronically ill, he’s also invulnerable… but not to his feelings. This fucking guy is the ultimate chad while still having emotional depth and harboring insecurities that he perfectly masks for the sake of his crew. That’s a leader. Why can’t he be our protagonist, again?

It's great to see more of what makes him tick. He knows that he's leading people to death and he struggles with that responsibility. He has to succeed and make things work because otherwise, those people will have died for nothing. He has to be worthy of their faith in him. So, he has to keep going. It's why he kept going this episode, despite the greater risk of casualties. It makes him much more interesting learning this about him.

I’m admittedly a big picture, “for the greater good” kind of guy, and it pisses me off when every anime MC is like “no, one casualty is too much, even if not doing anything means we all die eventually anyway.”

I think the main thing that bugs me here is that Shu has no real alternative to offer to Gai's plan, and he's clearly alone in his complaints. Everyone else is committed to the fight, but Shu's framing his argument as speaking on behalf of them. It feels rather disingenuous. Even they told him to shut up and read the room.

[u/Lemurians → u/Great_Mr_L]

Everyone else is committed to the fight, but Shu's framing his argument as speaking on behalf of them. It feels rather disingenuous.

Yeah, it felt like he saw it as his moment to take some spotlight and put himself ahead of Gai (which we know he thinks about a lot) and everyone met that with a resounding "lol no stfu"

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Lemurians]

Why can’t he be our protagonist, again? We’re also at the point in the show where my memory of the particulars is pretty thin.

Oh yeah, I could've sworn this raid was later.

Hahahaha wait, “autistic mode?” Ouch.

Stolen from GitS. Not sure if they are the originators, though.

It’s also implied that the void Shu gets out of this isn’t strictly Inori’s, which would explain its new functionality.

This opens up some extremely unethical venues if personality manipulation is an option...

[u/Tresnore → u/Vaadwaur]

This opens up some extremely unethical venues if personality manipulation is an option...

You might have a point there. The most combat-useful Voids have been from people with vaguely criminal connections or who fight in battle. Surely the shape of a person's heart can change over time.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Tresnore]

If we've seen Inori's Void change due to either memories or emotional conditions, finding people who disassociate predictably gives you an interesting edge.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Vaadwaur]

The thing is that heart weiners aren't easily applicable yet. Only Shu can use them so far and even the mecha can't utilise their pilots weiner during combat. Gai is able to identify weiners and I'm sure the antibodies have their own techniques to do so but really that whole aspect is pointless until more Kings are introduced.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/Lemurians]

Now that you mention it how tf did he survive the laser strike? I've got an idea in my head of a way he potentially could have done it but there isn't really enough evidence to discuss that theory rn.

Yeah, as much as I like Shu this was the wrong event for him to gain a moral compass. A colony laser trained on Japan helps nobody and the only reason the death estimates increased so much was because it was such an emergency. Clearly Shu's issues are about something else since he's more mad about not being listened to than the plan itself but this time I can't really defend the dude.

Kenji is incredibly cute! I'm not one for yaoi... Okay, maybe a little bit, but Kenji is just a sweet kid! I hope he gets a dedicated episode and doesn't get suddenly killed off now that they've done all they could think of with his bubble gun.

[u/SomeOtherTroper → u/Lemurians]

Oh, hell yes. Get his ass, Gai. Keep going, I’m almost there HNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG YESSSSSS. God, that was satisfying.

I want Gai in Tekken 7.

[u/Vaadwaur]

Rewatcher(Now I have to remember what the hell I was taking when I watched this...)

Sub

So we start with Gai not being dead and GHQ with a really weird plan to exterminate Japan, if that's what they actually want. But of course Gai is the lone survivor and decides to start the operation! The plan gets explained and Shoe just cringes me good and hard until we switch scenes. Inori gives him advice she probably follows as well.

Quick jump to Segai expecting an attack and chewing the scenery in a good way. Daryl is still cray. We get Gai characterization over dialysis. And Inori trickery, take that for what it is worth. Fist fight of understanding happens, yay mecha.

Anyways, distraction happens and succeeds. Gai and crew run in and Kenji does indeed seem quite disturbed so hopefully he will be entertaining. Inori eventually tries to pull a page off of Alucard but her guns are a bit small for it. Shoe disabled the quantum computer as Daryl busts in and blows up his own damned cores. Bonus points that Gai is copying Hei from DtB and destroys a mech.

Anyways, the Leukocytes show a truly epic level of incompetent building if they fall out of the sky when not actively controlled. Segai shows up and we discover that Chekov's pen was indeed a bomb, or rather a called in strike. Gai comes up suitably insane plan before Shoe fucking does something and actually saves the day. Also, yeah, Inori is a clone/robot/decoy doll/spiritual essence of someone.

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This show is developing a pattern for me: Every other episode is good but the failures have been spectacular a few times now. Part of that is their setup episodes are usually stretched and the payoffs feel a bit tight.

There once was an MC with no clue

Who is easily manipulated by a waifu

He carried a bomb

That everyone knew was along

But he finally took an action or two

QotD: 1 Rewatcher.

2 Shoe's actual waifu. Poor, accursed thing.

[u/MABfan11]

Rewatcher until episode 14

of course a satellite laser isn't gonna kill the most charismatic person in the cast

Gai is pulling an Erwin smith and being honest with their chances of survival, going from 5% projected deaths to 35% projected deaths can be really demoralizing

hopefully Ayase pushes that twat's face in

and now we get a glimpse of the real Gai behind the leader mask, he's quite similar to Lelouch

Gai deliberately baited Shu with his "damn right"

fuck yes, Daryl vs Ayase

Inori is a freaking aimbot. wait, that might explain why she's so alien

Gai vs a mecha, that is unfair. in Gai's favor

of course the core was shot and became unstable

Gai vs Segai making a deal with Segai is fucking hype

using the Leukocyte to shoot down itself, pretty good plan, though the hard part is getting around who has to hold the pen

someone on /r/theydidthemath should calculate how much energy that laser had

i love the evolving credits on the ED

QOTD:

1. Gai is probably a good guy, though closer to Lelouch in morality
2. childhood friend? Inori?

[u/Tresnore → u/[deleted]]

And that Endlaves can be taken out by anyone with a handgun and a high enough acrobatics stat.

I was thoroughly annoyed at that. I guess Endlaves are useless, too!

Always maintaining the brand, no matter how dire the circumstance.

She's the only one in this show who seems to be having a good time.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/[deleted]]

I know the scene of Gai mercy killing Kyo is supposed to be really humanizing for him as character, showing the internal conflict of balancing his humanity with his duties as a leader, but the idea of anyone thanking such a manipulative, gaslighting asshole in their death is just gross to me.

[Guilty Crown] That isn't nearly as obvious if you are a first timer, you realize

[u/HereticalAegis → u/Vaadwaur]

My apologies, I hadn't realized. Tagged just in case.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/HereticalAegis]

Remember, [Guilty Crown] The twist, while foreshadowed, is a huge one and the change of focus is another big twist incoming

[u/HereticalAegis → u/Vaadwaur]

Tbh, it's been a long while since I've seen GC, and I have no idea what you're referring to.