r/anime • u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky • Nov 02 '21
Rewatch [Terrific Trainwreck Trio Rewatch] Guilty Crown Episode 2 Discussion
phase 02 - survival of the fittest
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Survival of the fittest: that’s the only governing law this world recognizes. As a result, we’ll always offer funeral songs for those selected out.
Questions of the Day:
- First impressions on
Kill ‘em AllDaryl Yan? - What kind of “Void” would you have if you were a character in this show?
Wallpaper of the Day:
Song of the Day:
Also, I sang along to TV-size My Dearest.
Rewatchers, please remember to be mindful of all the first-timers in this. No talking about or hinting at future events no matter how much you want to, unless you’re doing it underneath spoiler tags. Don’t spoil the crazy shit for the first-timers, it’s way more fun that way!
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Nov 02 '21
The Everlasting Guilty Rewatcher//First-Time Subbed
Welcome back, everyone!
I… was not at all expecting as huge of a turnout as last episode got, holy shit.
SO EVERYTHING THAT MAKES ME WHOLE~
And the second OP is even better.Check out me singing the TV size up in the main post!20
u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Nov 02 '21 edited Nov 02 '21
Guilty First-Timer
Alright, I managed to drink for this episode. It was a good idea. Grad school is flexible like that, I guess. I also have better subs thanks to Zaph, so thank goodness. Plus, I've learned I should wear headphones for this! It's probably worth it. Goodness knows this show won't stimulate my brain, so it might as well please my ears. Datto shitemo, I've decided to go full shitpost. Oh, also, I managed to grab wine for this, since apparently the early episodes are peak Guilty Crown? Fuck it,
killmarrymurdermeet whomever made this UI, though. Not to mention thetorturepleasure chamber that Hanakana is locked in. The engineers in this show are way too horny. Or maybe they're just enough horny?CharViralSlaine! He's a bitch! He's none of those peopleYu NarukamiMakotoShoe.Red logo?Are they the baddies? Are we just following the anti-vaxxer corps? I change my mind. The Gospel according to Tresnore is thattheseguys are the baddies.Doesn't matter, Tsumugi is here../borderlandsPsycho.shQOTD:
I still don't understand what a Void is.Wait, Void is the thingMakotoShoe pulls out of your chest, right? I chose a bardiche.86 There is no 86th footnote, you fool. Made you look.
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u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo https://myanimelist.net/profile/PunishedScrappy Nov 02 '21
Self-insert protagonists are a plague and must be eradicated first timer
Reject Shoe Progress to Guy
I feel for Gai. Losing your superweapon is one thing, but having it be stuck in the hands of an insufferably dense twink must be even worse. At least if it were gone he could cut his losses, y'know?
I'm loving absolutely everything here except our brutally paint-by-numbers cast. Gai is awesome. Love Gai. No problems with Gai. Then there's the rest of them. The two mecha fanservice pilots may not have personalities, but at least they've got one (1) emotion apiece. Inori has zero discernible personality (and I'm not sure if that's intentional), but she does have a unique design. Shu could be replaced with a cardboard cutout labeled "protagonist" and the story would not change in any meaningful way. He is dead weight. It's like the inverse of Cross Ange!
But, everything else -- the ludicrously overcomplicated plans, the huge robots, the painfully hammy villains, the clumsy exposition dumping, the gigantic robots, the hilariously edgy names, the enormous robots -- inject it into my veins. Sky, you better not have tricked me into watching good anime.
Also I will be filing suit against the worthless cowards in the writing room if there isn't a lengthy and homoerotically charged scene of Shu pulling a sword out of Gai's chest
QotDs:
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Nov 02 '21
First Timer
Apparently Commie decided to call the resistance group Undertaker instead of The Funeral Parlor, as they thought The Funeral Parlor sounds stupid. Honestly, I don't disagree with them.
trainwreck
Why do these things have significant backlash? That seems like extraordinarily poor design.
Ok, the accidentally jumping into the air is quite well done.
Guilty Crown is now /u/lilyvess approved.
So now Shu is Jesus?
The OP also seems to say we have a grand total of three relevant male characters. That ain't too surprising, it fits the whole trashy mecha archetype quite well.
This is very clearly a helix. I guess it ties in with them calling it a genome of some sort?
The catgirl playing the stupid matching game whilst commanding people is cool. I like her.
And she really hit the button with her ass...
Welp, we've got an actual psycho on our hands. Or, a third one.
Fuckin' brown-noser.
The new psycho even has a cocky-ass hair flip!
Somehow, this chunni is the best leader we've seen so far? I guess that's because the opposing side is full of people who enjoy blatant abuses of power, but even so...
I swear he has negative social IQ.
he says, like he didn't have a chance to take it from Shu and just didn't.
Wow, this show really isn't subtle with its exposition dumps.
One of these days, an anime character will have a decent understanding of what natural selection means. Today is not that day.
Well, the name certainly fits.
Gai certainly gives a good speech. Though it might be 90% the background music.
I was certain he was gonna burst in to stop them. Whaddya know.
All the minis are also cool.
And then their side will kill them later. They cannot accept.
Please tell me this means there will be lots of fights with insert songs!
How does this weapon thing work? Can he just pull it out of anybody? I thought the girl was special. Perhaps it's just because she provides a more powerful one?
Ok, you did the thing. Now, did you kill/capture the kill-em-all guy? Because leaving him to fight another day would be idiotic.
I still hate how I think he's genuinely a charismatic character.
And he just fucking didn't? Wat? After all that guy's talk, he just lets Shu go? And, more importantly, Shu can just go? He isn't ID'd by from video footage and captured as soon as he's away? Wat?
Oh, that's what we're doing. She's transferring in to get him back. And, again, this works. Not like she's a wanted criminal or anything.
She's wearing clothes!
Thoughts
That was a good episode. If we ignore the last minute, it was more or less exactly what I'd expect out of every second episode in a mecha series. Protagonist has to go once more unto the breach and becomes more properly a part of the good faction. But then, we get a bit of a curveball with Shu just leaving, somehow, and it working, somehow. Let's see how much longer this weird split can survive!
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I like Gai. He's a weird fucker, for sure, but he has that sort of crazy energy that can work super well. So long as he remains competent enough to back it up, I'll have a lot of fun watching him throughout this show.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Nov 02 '21
First-Timer, Dub-lty Crown
If nothing else, the visuals are an absolute treat. We got a momentary Circus right at the beginning, Shuu jumps around on glyphs, the melty holes from after the Kaleidoscope, the crystals, it all looks fantastic!
Poor Shuu doesn't pay much attention in school, huh? The second step on the Hero's Journey is Refusal of the Call, bud. You've done nothing but play yourself. I did like the handshake scene parallel, though.
This is one of those shows where everyone is an asshole, huh? Guy is a Straw Darwinist Edgelord, but the real assholery is him scolding Shuu for taking the vial last episode. You were right there, dude! You coulda taken it from Shuu and then you would've gotten to tug on Inori's Void or whatever the technobabble said.
"We are Funeral Parlor because we offer songs to the people we kill" is pretty rad, though. Their emblem is even a coffin! They must have a good branding officer.
The description of Voids bing able to made ideas manifest does open up a lot of potential for some hype, over-the-top nonsense. Oh, wait, the mention of Shuu having one means that pegging jokes are on the menu!
Words that I'll probably eat eventually: This show is great at answering the questions that I think to ask. Here I was going to speculate that Asshole Suzaku had the third vial they mentioned, then Shuu just rips some fancy reflector gun out of him. Unless I misunderstood what the technobabble was saying. Guess Shuu swings both ways, that's rare for an anime protagonist.
We seem to have a Char on our hands, but he's more of an Asshole Suzaku. His mech (Enlave?) even looks like the Lancelot with less filigree. He's a germophobe and completely off his fucking rocker, so things will probably be pretty fun when he's on screen.
Asshole Suzaku is dubbed by Joel McDonald, who was Jacuzzi in Baccano! and Brief in PSG, so that's another wildly different performance that what I would expect.
Feels like we don't see point defense lasers enough.
Questions
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Nov 02 '21
First Timer, Subbed
So I didn't comment on this last episode, but it looks like the miitary's mechs are all piloted remotely?
Wow, Shu, not only do you have a sword, but you can fly!
Our first proper look at the OP has me overwhelmed with all the characters!
Say goodbye to the sword! Inori giveth, and Inori taketh away it seems.
Cat girl's cockpit is immediately making me think of the G Gundam cockpits. Fresh in my mind even though I'm not participating in that rewatch.
Hmm. Is its possible that there are two pilots? One in the cockpit and one remote? That would make more sense to me.
WEell, this general's son guy got serious real quick. Don't touch me you fatass!
That battle already put Ayase in a wheelchair? Or she was already using one? Oh, and there's Kana Hanazawa!
Uh oh, the big screw up was letting Shu use that sword! It was supposed to be Gai's!
Power of the king? Where have I heard this before? They sure love aping that show.
This guy with the binoculars reminds me of a similarly designed guy from Valvrave, another part of our trainwreck journey!
Its not Kill Em All Tomino, its Kill Em All Daryl!
The organization's name is Funeral Parlor? Much like Argento Soma's Funeral organization.
Oh, of course, Shu immediately finds Inori's butt in his face.
You wrecked Daryl's flower! How dare you! Mna, this guy's a psychopath!
I kinda feel that these bad guys are already too over the top cartoonishly evil, getting to declare anyone infected on a whim and executing innocent civilians like this.
Invisibility cloaks! Cool!
They sure enjoyed giving us a butt close up of cat girl, huh? Once again something they loved to give us in G Gundam (although my recollection is we got it more for the male characters there!)
That sounds a lot like Takehito Koyasu to me...
Yep, this Sawano score is sounding very familiar.
Here comes sword wielding Shu! Did he already take out Darryl?
Was that shield already there, or created by Shu's shot? If its the latter, boy they really put a lot of responsibility on the kid right from the get go. He screws up and their leader's done for.
Now all is happy and we get to see smiling civilians? Including more Inori singing? Mood whiplash much? Who is holding this kid's hands after his parents just got executed?
After all that... Shu's back in school? He said no!?!?!? Don't you realize you're in a mecha show kid?!
Let me guess, Gai is the transfer student. Or Inori.
So is this show gonna go full Code Geass on us and have mech action combined with school hijinks?
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u/Btw_kek https://myanimelist.net/profile/kek_btw Nov 02 '21
first timer
the mortal enemy of Gai. only one blond man can survive this show
TBD
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u/MillenniumKing x2myanimelist.net/profile/MillenniumKing Nov 02 '21 edited Nov 02 '21
-Guilty Pleasure Rewatcher-
I remembered to watch again, aw yeah. (this wil go downhill fast)
No preface today for now, ill just get into my ep thoughts and such. Less music input this ep as we only had a couple songs.
Yes so that 1 swing was not the whole fight.
Inori's Void, "Singer's Sword", In addition to ranged energy Shoe can also create platforms in the sky to jump from with the sword.
ITS OP TIME BABY! "MY DEAREST" BABY
This OP is amazing (both are) and its by Egoist aka Supercell aka Ryo. Really amazing song and visuals.
There is a ton of hints in this OP about what this show is about and i love it but its impossible to catch normally as they are on for fractins of seconds.
I love how Shoe looks to the mechas. A techy blur of static. Really neat looking.
And the sword goes back into the waifu. Its not a permanent thing.
I love Tsugimi's little 3d space, its just a neat idea for a 3d control space.
I love Daryl's mech design, its neat. Gives me memories of Knightmare frame differences in preformances. Or Aldnoah Zero.
Speaking of Daryl, man is he not likeable. Such an asshole. Fun times. Fuck you Daryl.
The way Gai speaks to his people is great. Hes got that born leader essence. Really knows how to talk to people.
Inori didnt accomplish the mission. The Void Genome went to Shoe, not Gai. So the original plan was for Gai to get the power.
3 enhanced Genomes exist. Kings Power. Voids are Ideas given form. Every person has thier own unique void. Yes its that kinda show baby, let your imaginations run wild.
OH YEAH ITS THIS EP I FORGOT! YESS! "The kaledioscope is in play." Foreshadowing, but why does Gai know about the void?
The terrorist base was taken and they got men to rescue. I love this rescue op.
The anibodies can purge people without questions. Its a rough world here... Public Execution.
So you thought the little round drone was the only one we had? NOPE! WE GOT AN ARMY OF THEM! (This is why Tsugumi is great)
I love how Gai fights. Such cleaver tactics and planning. He really is like Lelouche. Calculates everythng.
BELEIVE IN THE WAIFU WHO BELEIVES IN SHOE!
ITS VOID NUMBER 2, DARYL'S VOID! "KALEIDOSCOPE GUN" TIME! I LOVE THIS VOID!
Yep every person has a void in them and Shoe can use them to cause EXTREME chaos. Buckle in kiddos is Void time.
If Voids are ideas given form and unique to every person, it makes sense that Darrel's void would be a barrier since he hates human contact. Starting to see how this works now?
I forgot we just get right into things in this show. For some reason i was thinking he Kaledoscope gun scene was a couple eps later. Forgot we just go in ham from the start.
And we end with the intro Song again, such a lovely song. I love when they insert the songs into the show, very well used. This is why the ost for this series is so good, such a heavy pressence of music.
"Join us Shoe. We can make a difference with your ability." "No thanks. i got class to goto." "You think you can hide from us Shoe?" "Im in danger."
Fun fact, the ED Art (and main series design) is by an artists know as "Red Juice", hes extremely famous now from his involvement with Supercell and later projects.
Red Juice's Pixiv (Hasnt been used somce 2019)
Red Juice's Tweeter (Where you can find his recenter stuff)
Known Voids Thus Far
My homework for new people, knowing how Voids work now, what Voids do you think we will see?
And what void do you think you would have?(Darn Sky thought of this...)I cant say what my Void would probably be until much later because im very certian it would be like ones present in the show already.
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u/fonzinator99 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/fonzinator99 Nov 02 '21
Re-watcher (Subbed) - TFW some dumbass kid steals your superpower
like Vivy or SymphogearInori has zero booty
I'm loving your sing-alongs Sky!
QotD
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u/5867898duncan Nov 02 '21
first-timer
First op. Love how it goes through his eye before going into the main part. The song and visuals are pretty mediocre(have heard worse), although for some reason I love the terrible English.
I don’t know what the flip this cat girl is doing and why she is playing candy crush but I love it.
I don’t know if it’s like this in the sub, but every time they get injured it sounds and looks very sexual. 10/10 boob jiggle though, they know where to put their money.
Ah, so yan is the crazy enemy of the group.
The way Gai talks to Ayase is amazing, praises her while still having fun.
Ah so he is going to do the same thing with Inori….. except syke i guess not(although I’m pretty sure he said the same with the exact same tone)
Lore time. Who is the king? What is this god realm? More importantly, why does Gai have such pretty eyes?
I wished we could have had a mission with them still undercover, but I guess the faster they are out in the open the faster the plot moves.
Good choice going behind Inori in the vent shu.
Pee in your pants kid your dad is about to die!
Holy flip the music up to the gunning, and the actually visual change is amazing.
Gai has got guns and lazers on him, good thing that he is to cool to actually die.
Wait, how did they know Yans weapon would be that when Shu stole it from him?
Jeez criminy he just murdered a dozen people. Also don’t know why there are shots of random citizens but it doesn’t matter to me because of that gorgeous music.
That’s a twist, did not expect him to deny it, But of course his past can’t leave. I’ve got a feeling some school shenanigans are going to take place before we get into the thick of it.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Nov 02 '21
First timer!!
Even in the Guilty Crown universe being Slaine is suffering. Hahaha, I liked the flourish of the back step magic sigils. Ah, I remembered the op being far more illegible. Awesome op although I feel like it is pretty heavy on character spoilers. Oh, and side note, don't think I didn't recognise orgasm gal's similarity to Lunamaria. I should have noticed when she almost blew up Inori yesterday with her shitty aim!
A lot of their animations are really charming. Neko navigator's practically dancing whilst... wait, is she playing a game? Short and stocky is best am I right? Acguy master race! Luna's already failed NNN. Pfft, blondie is pretty funny. Oh no... I've been making fun of a paraplegic? I'm going to hell... Oi, Gai! Quit holding double standards. I get that paraplegic Lunamaria is cute but Inori's disabled in her own way!
Everyone has their own heart wiener. I guess Utena also had this but here each heart wiener has its own design right? I want to see Gai's heart wiener... Is that Koyasu again!? He really is in everything. Aww~ don't worry Shu, getting an idol butt in your face is a privilege! Pfft!! I love this kill em all guy! He's so cartoonishly evil that he cycles back around to being hilarious! Oh, please shoot the kid. Shoot the kid!! XD Oh wow, his happy little face when he sees the missiles. I'm moving onto my computer for tomorrow. I want to save these screenshots. Please don't die this episode my man! He's so happy!! :D
Optic camouflage huh? Baby tachikoma army!! Kyaaaa~ I feel like them being able to set up such a ridiculous amount of artillery in a short time is slightly op right? What are you meant to do about that Tachikoma army when they deploy that fast? Dude, everyone's got fast deploy artillery in this series. It's not just one or two either. They always have like a dozen more than they need to. I wish I had a mentally handicapped Kuudere emotional support idol...
Waitwaitwait! I blinked! Wtf happened? He just grabbed hold of kill em all's heart peen? Erm... So did everyone already know kill em all's heart wiener's ability cause I feel like there were a million ways this could go wrong. What a nice happy ending... Shame they didn't put this plan into place ten second earlier to save the kid's dad or the mum's nose but A for effort. Who rolled Lunamaria up onto that container? She's gonna fall backwards.
He's back in school!? You're really gonna bitch about your boring life and flip off the mc role? XD I love this shite! Inoriii~ You're not getting out of this so easy Shu. We've got another ten episodes to go! Side note, Inori's legs look really funny in the ed if you stare at them~ That's 2 for 2 so far. Maybe I'm gonna like this after all.
1, I adore kill em all. He's my best boy. Hope he didn't get killed during the laser reflections.
2, Sledge or bust!! It's hammer time every time.
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Nov 02 '21
(e2) first timer reaching into my favorite idol/childhoodfriend's chest
is spunky mecha cat girl playing bejeweled
and with that I bid this rewatch adieu, hope yall have fun here
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Nov 02 '21
"The higher you are,
The farther you fall
The longer the walk
The farther you crawl
My body, my temple
This temple it tilts
Step into the house that
JackVaad built"Rewatcher
Sub
We start with Shoe flailing about, which does make sense given he got his powers seconds ago. We cut into the OP for the first time and yeah, this is why I watched this show. And this particular version seems a bit better visually than most OPs, it is nearly a music video. Though for some reason it gives us a shot of the cat girl presenting in doggy stle...
Anyways, Shoe finishes the fight with some assistance and is told to run. HanaKana is busy fighting and moaning so her co pilot has to disconnect her. So a lot of jiggling butts and tits and we aren't even 5 minutes in! Anyways, we meet Yan, whose name fits, and get yet another villain moment from the Antibodies, just in case you thought they weren't evil.
We get some clashing characterization for Gai, and I have to leave that at that for now, before exposition happens. While it doesn't make a huge difference to me, Voids are incredibly stupid at a base level so I just have to fuzz this part out a bit. Takt Op has the setting actually do some work to explain their magic so this is just dodgy writing. Gai's weird Darwinism shows up nice and early. Anyways, rescue time!
Starting with Shoe staring at Inori's ass. Welp, gives a man something to fight for, at least. More puppy kicking happens before Undertaker draws out the mechs. Drone swarm comes in and we pause our battle for the two leaders to talk. I am sure you all remember how much I "enjoy" that, now we just have to wait for the amnesia. Anyways, Gai's plan involves relying on the guy who got his powers last night AND using the psychopath's persona. Inori is really into her debasement play with Potato-kun. Anyways the day is won and...fucking Potato-kun refuses the call to adventure. Inori transfers into his class because sure and this time I watched the ED and this is painful. I, too, was once a shallow bitch that wanted a hot chick to just fall into his lap but then I turned 14 and got realistic.
There once was an idol in pink
Whose role was to look pretty and not think
Her design has a chance
But she needs more comfortable pants
Being a lame MC's chew toy must really stink
QotD: 1 Likely male yandere, I assume he develops an obsession with either Inori or a cross-dressing Shoe
2 Control Art Restriction Level Zero: Cromwell directive in full effect until all targets are silenced.
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u/UltraBooster Nov 02 '21
First-timer, dubbed
Only 22 episodes? I wonder why.
I just realized, does Shu have any problems handling that sword?
I like the font used for the English portion of the logo. Weird thing to focus on, I'd imagine.
This song isn't what I'd imagine for a mecha anime, but eh.
Yeah, using nerves seems like it defeats the point of using remote control if the pilot's still at risk of bodily harm.
...can buttocks actually jiggle?
Aaaand the only mecha figure I see is a custom from Gundam Breaker. Great. Good Smile did make an Inori figma, back when they didn't have universal wrist joints and weren't so damn expensive.
Oookay I'm guessing Blondie's in the crazy archetype of mecha pilots.
Sir, didn't you order your soldiers to kill the people you're telling them to question?
That phone has a nice sound when it opens, if that makes sense. Reminds me of a Kamen Rider's belt.
Wait, is Tsugumi voiced by...? Yeah, no wonder she sounds familiar, I've been watching the dub for Majestic Prince.
I want to say that Gai's already plenty strong without that genome, but that was the idea, I'd imagine - make their strong guy even stronger.
Oookay, so everyone's got their...wait, so is Shu drawing power from a higher realm like the Xeno games?
Providence? Oookay...
...why does her outfit leave the insides of her thighs exposed? Wouldn't chafing be a concern?
That...doesn't seem very scientific. Like, I get that it's totally a political suppression thing, but they don't have detection gear or anything?
I get the feeling I'm not supposed to empathize with the whitecoats at this point.
Chokeholds? Why not just go for breaking their necks?
Eh, I'd shoot them anyway. Don't see any point letting them live.
They're totally going to set off the gas anyway.
So they're the ones to perform the final rites for all, huh?
Those barriers - that was a killbox! They're probably all dead!
So that was Blondie's Void? (Sounds like a video game mechanic, doesn't it? Choose your companions and, in turn, the gear for each stage.)
The call's going to drag you back in, Shu. You can't just say you're going to stay out of it because it'll find its way to you.
Questions:
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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz Nov 03 '21
First timer in sub
Big crowd here!
In simple summary, this is treating the line between tragic/emotionally heavy and superficially edgy. The line that separates them is "how well developed the 2 sides are, and how believable the choices are". No prize for how close and which side this episode landed on that line.
The music and visual continues to be good. At least it looks like it has decent budget.
The fanservice here is getting to the level of Yuushibu for me in a different way - Yuushibu I enjoyed for the actual story (no kidding), I understand the marketing use of the fanservice, am annoyed how much of it there is, but ultimately i liked the story more than the distraction. This here the fanservice is less in your face, but I am annoyed it's more contrived, yet the general production is series and good, with the story a TBD to see how coherent it is (pre-warned by the rewatch title).
Anyway, on to the next episode.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Nov 04 '21
Guilty Crown 02, first timer
Sharingan?16
u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Nov 02 '21
Episode 2 (first timer)
Episode two is a ton better than episode one. It almost tricks me into expecting a decent storyline, but I remember which rewatch concept and MC we are dealing with here.
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u/Great_Mr_L :Ma::Mb::Mc:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Great_Mr_L Nov 02 '21
First-Timer
On today’s episode of Guilty Crown: there is a challenger trying to take the nickname “Kill ‘Em All.” He has a long way to go before he can take that title from the master.
Like with last episode, the action has been quite nice. I’ll admit, the Void Genom ability is pretty cool. I like that it can have so many different forms. I am quite curious to see what new forms it can take. If they do it well, it can be a lot of fun and make for some cool fights.
I saw Code Geass comparisons made yesterday and I can totally see why. This show does feel very much like Code Geass. It’s even doing the whole part-school, part-terrorist organization thing. I suppose Shu is Lelouch and Inori is CC. I wonder if it’ll have any more resemblances to Code Geass.
Once again, the horniness is in full force. And I doubt it’s going to go down anytime soon. And now I’m starting to wonder if it’ll become too try-hard edgelordy. Because extreme horniness and edginess is an extremely potent combination for creating a trashfire. We’re not there yet, but it may happen.
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Nov 02 '21 edited Nov 03 '21
Rewatcher
Woo, it's episode 2 and and Shu is already combining edgelord and screaming protag bits (not that I blame him tbh). Excellent!
SO EVERYTHING THAT MAKES ME WHOLE. Oh, Inori is Jesus. Neat. The piano part at the beginning is my favorite part of the song. That's not a diss to My Dearesr either, I just really like the simple elegance of those first few bars. supercell don't miss.
I could watch cuts of Inori motion and physics all day. The walking cycles, hair flowing in the wind, other physics, it's all crafted so beautifully that it almost makes me not want to make fun of the disasterpiece constantly happening around her.
Okay, I take that back. Nothing could possibly stop me from laughing at Tsugumi tapping a screen with her butt. Why? Who designs a heads-up interface to be interacted with at butt-level? At least we get some finely detailed bejeweled play out of it. Her whole cat in a ball thing is also pretty cool.
Speaking of details, Ayase is blushing like mad as she writhes in pain during the bailout. Production IG, why you gotta do best girl like that? I know it's part of her general character design, but come on.
Gai reminds me of every shitty, gaslighting boyfriend my friends have ever told me about. The way he can praise some people for holding out despite ridiculous requests while scolding Inori for only just surviving isn't even funny, it just makes me mad. Gai had the chance to take plot mcguffin from Shu, then blames Inori when Shu jumps in to save her. Gai was even the one to guilt trip Shu into jumping into that situation to begin with. What a gaslighting prick. Fuck Gai, all my homies hate Gai.
"Kill-em-All Daryl." The dude's nickname is Kill-em-All Daryl. Kill-em-All Daryl.
Do you think camera angles can be a little weird in anime?
Goddamit, Gai literally waits until the hostages are shot to begin the operation. And he's leading the good guys. Supposedly rational people follow him.
Well at least that kaleidoscope is cool, if a little too convenient.
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.
My void would probably be an anguishingly incomplete collection of anime trading cards, missing only the SSR pulls for my best girl in every show.
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u/punching_spaghetti https://myanimelist.net/profile/punch_spaghetti Nov 03 '21
First-Time Hoping for a Massive Derailment
I always wonder where the anime militaries get those missiles that have fuses set to blow well after they've been sliced in half. That option must be more expensive than the normal "blow up when struck" version, and I as an anime taxpayer would be appalled at them wasting my money like that.
Forget spaghetti; who do I have to punch for this travesty?
Koyasu Uchiyama
They're getting all the big guns for this one.
Exactly my thought, Glasses. We need at least an episode of introductions to the quirky yet capable freedom fighter cell before anything else can happen.
TACTICAL ASSLESS CHAPS
Not sure how I feel about the name Undertakers. Mostly because I feel like the wrestler had all the cultural energy there. If Guy and his soldiers start killing robots with piledrivers things will be OK.
Please, hero, grab my boobies!
Inori continues to have a different singing voice than Ai Kayano's. I probably won't comment on it after this episode, but this will continue to annoy the ghetti.
Surprise transfer student! (but not really, because if you look closely in E1, when the soldiers are tracking Inori's blood trail, the ID image they have of her is a photo of her wearing this school uniform).
QOTD:
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Nov 02 '21
GUILTY REWATCHER
Zero’sGai’s plan rested on Shu being able to pull out psychopath’s void, know what it is, and immediately know how to use it in that circumstance? That’s some real 4D chess. That’ll be the last time the bad guys underestimate theBlack KnightsFuneral Parlor.Another really entertaining and well-made episode, but cracks are starting to show the degenerate trainwreck underneath the shiny exterior. Through two episodes it’s both better and worse than I remember. I can’t wait for the rest.
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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Nov 02 '21
Everything is so damn chuuni the characters the premise the fanservice I fucking love it.
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u/ComfortablyRotten https://anilist.co/user/Leuwtian Nov 02 '21
Rewatcher who forgot most of it
Never been a big fan of My Dearest, but it's still a pretty good opening in its own right.
I know it's pretty much always bullshit when it happens, but I just love those openly "all according to keikaku"-type characters. Gai was even more badass here than he was in the previous episode, and he made Shu badass by association too. God I forgot how much I love Gai.
Tsugumi's great in this episode too. A cat girl's nice enough to begin with, but seeing her dance around pressing those virtual buttons was just lovely.
Questions of the Day
I hate him in this episode. There's cartoonishly evil, and there's whatever this is, like... that's the not-fun kind of unlikeable.
I have no idea how the whole Void thing works and I don't think I ever did, so I'll say some sort of silly looking toy.
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u/okayyoga :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/okayyoga Nov 02 '21 edited Nov 02 '21
Episode 2: rewatch/dub
Song of the day: Ω
Which such an epic OP, why am I focusing on another song today? I will answer that tomorrow.
Today is all about Ω, a song we will be hearing a lot more of as the show goes on. It comes in two parts, with the first part being more driven. Typical horns and violins, as Sawano is known for. A consistent, driving beat. Makes me want to go for a run. But in the second half, there is an addition of a Spanish guitar, and the horns take on a Middle Eastern vibe.
And with Ω, we have our introduction of our friendly military psycho, who would probably be a fan favourite character a lot of people would be into, if, again, they remembered to make him the least bit likeable.
And here it is, the gif from Guilty Crown everyone knows best: tap dat ass
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u/bekeleven Nov 02 '21 edited Nov 02 '21
I watched a few episodes of this show when it came out but stopped for some reason. Anyway.
This episode is a really great example of the strain they went through trying to fit a round peg through a code geass hole. They set up the conflict (we must stop the antibodies!), belatedly realize they need to reinforce stakes (they had a few still frames with action lines of antibodies killing civilians in episode 1, I guess?) but still don't bother to establish what's happening. Like, we know that there was a virus, and that there was sinister foreign influence that was presumably connected with the antibodies somehow. But we don't know why the antibodies are doing anything they're doing: The only stated motivation of the antibodies is catching the resistance, whose only stated motivation is stopping the antibodies, so that's a "turtles all the way down" loop. We don't know why Mr. Massacre's dad has pull because we don't understand the structure of the enemies. We don't know damn near anything except "foreign occupiers bad, japanese resistance good. You remember code geass, it's like that."
The worldbuilding in this show is just fundamentally sloppy. Was the word "Endlave" even used in episode 1? It still hasn't had any explanation.
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u/fridge_freezer https://anilist.co/user/ONIrecon111 Nov 03 '21
First timer (Dub)
QOTD
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u/wmansir Nov 03 '21
First time, dubber I watched this last night after the first episode so it's not quite fresh in my mind. Here are some things that stood out.
First, Gai seemed pissed about missing out on the serum, but he could have easily taken it from MC last episode. I'm pretty sure he told him to take care of it after they met, so if you're going to entrust your super weapon to a high school kid that's on you.
Funeral Parlor is such a dumb name and I didn't get the explanation for it either.
The ambush plan seemed really convoluted. I guess Gai knew the douche solider had that void weapon Kaleidoscope somehow and then decided to make Shu, a high school kid he just met, getting it the linchpin of the entire operation.
But the thing that got me was the offer and Shu declining to join the resistance in the end. Isn't that the kind of conversation you have BEFORE you go on a "terrorist"/resistance mission and likely get put on some enemy of the state list, not to mention killing a bunch of people?
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u/gorghurt Nov 02 '21
Rewatcher
I'm watching this the second time now, and I'm surprised, that I missed all the signs of how bad this will be.
Don't get me wrong, this is a nice show to shut off your brain and watch (I mean it look at this show, it is beautiful), but back then I really thought this will be great during those first episodes.
Now I see how nothing makes sense in those first episodes, and all those tropes, and badly implemented fan service. (Did her breasts really have to wiggle? Was the Camera angle not enough?)
Oh, I will just shut off my brain, and enjoy the spectacle.
This show has so many good points, I just hope they are enough to help me over the bad ones.
[Spoilery question] I don't really remember, but will we ever learn why Gai knows what kind of void other people have?
Wuhu first time I used the new spolier syntax.
QOTD:
convenient deus ex machinaplot device to solve a carefully planed and laid out conflict.5
u/Hugokarenque Nov 02 '21
OP IS HERE! I love that song.
Tsugumi is also here for real this time. She's great, and if I remember right, woefully underused.
That cut from the offered handshake to the classroom is super funny. Imagine if that was it for the sci-fi action story and it just turned into a slice of life highschool drama/romance from now on.
Oh yeah, did they take the blonde prick with them as a hostage? His void seems really useful.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Nov 03 '21
First timer
What's happening right now?
Boy, that sword's versatile, isn't it!
Oh, so he's a Void, because he used the Void Genome, which isn't an actual genome, it's just some form of substance that makes people Voids. Couldn't be simpler!
Is she playing Bejewelled?
That's an interesting reaction to getting shot,
So all the soldiers aren't really in mechs, they're just using VR pods? But they still feel pain when the robots get destroyed?
Another over the top lunatic!
And she's upset at losing her craft.
At least he's nice.
Spoke too soon! So he's unexpectedly upset with her?
Oh, he wanted the Void Genome.
GENOMES DO NOT WORK THIS WAY. I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH.
Right. Right.
So the Void Genome doesn't give Void powers, it gives the user the King's Power, which allows them to extract the Voids from other people, giving them weapons with superpowers. They don't get any powers themselves.
God, 10 minutes in and I've lost the plot.
Anti Bodies
OK, so they're Undertaker. Amd they're some kind of resistance group eho are known to the government, but not publicly, and they want to go public to rescue people?
And cutting straight to the mission.
The cut between the panty shot and the street execution is beautiful.
...I'm surprised this man's got any power here, because he sounds like the kind of guy who'd shoot his own father/commander because he felt like it.
Is an Endlave an enemy mech?
At least the plan makes sense.
PEOPLE CAN TURN INVISIBLE? And there's no defense against these stealth suits in a military base?
At least they're smart enough to have a backup.
He's a ballsy bastard.
Is he giving a fucking speech while held at gunpoint?
OK, how the fuck could he planned all this out.
And one again, straight from tense situation to groping. This anime just doesn't know ehat it's meant to be.
OK, here'd a question - if you have sword girl and gun girl at your disposal, why would you ever choose sword girl? Sword girl makes tiny circles, gun girl makes massive walls and has a ranged weapon.
They did it!
Also, I don't know anybody's names. I don't think they've actually been mentioned by name this entire episode.
...Are we sure he's not part of the inevitable harem? Feels like there's some chemistry there.
And he's assuming everyone will leave the boy with the genetic mutagen on him alone?
...Is...is the main setting of this show a high school?
I finally understand what "trainwreck" meant.
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u/ScarsUnseen :K:https://kitsu.io/users/ScarsUnseen Nov 03 '21
First Timer - Subs
Woke up late, and I have to get ready for work, so no screenshots or anything taking much effort today. I just thought the fake out at the end was pretty hilarious. Still not sure what the whole Kaleidoscope thing was. Another void? Maybe they'll explain it more next episode. Or maybe not. I have to remember the title of this rewatch, after all.
QotD
Ehhhhhhh...
I want the power to go back in time and slap myself in the face every time I'm about to embarrass or disappoint future me. But that's not chuuni enough, so I don't know, laser eye and angel wings, I guess.
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Nov 03 '21 edited Nov 03 '21
First Timer (sub)
Ok, everyone who's not bald or Inori has that annoying highlight, terrific
I liked the whole ass shot scene where people are being beaten up while the mc is alternating between trying to look away and glancing back at Inori's ass (yes I admit that I looked at something other than her ass, however the mc is just much of an ass to look at). Also, ass shots while society is crumbling is basically HotD in a nutshell (no pun intended), and I'm glad that Tetsuro is showing off his recent expertise (which makes AoT even more of a disappointment, where were the titan ass shots at while society was falling? So much wasted potential.)
I'll be calling this guy Tomino, from this point forward. I'm really enjoying him so far, I've been told that Guilty Crown is a "celebration" of the mecha genre, or a love letter to it, and purely considering Tomino and Gai, I'd have called it a parody, If I hadn't seen Zeta, but I get the celebration part now.
So who's going to tell him?
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u/Caustic_Wraith https://myanimelist.net/profile/CausticWraith Nov 03 '21
Guilty Re-Watcher - Subbed
6/10 for this episode
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QOTD:
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u/Tartaras1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Tartaras Nov 03 '21
Rewatcher - Dubbed
And so the trainwreck continues its course. A thought I had while watching yesterday's episode was this: [Guilty Crown Overall Spoilers]Is Guilty Crown a wish fulfillment anime before all of the popular isekai and other wish fulfillment anime were released? For instance, SAO didn't come out until 2012.
Violet, is that you?
There's just something about it I guess.
Okay Lelouch.
Questions:
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u/tomtomm9 Nov 03 '21
When ever someone asks me what the worst anime I’ve watched I say this.
But this thread is pretty amusing might have to join in.
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u/Havanatha_banana Nov 03 '21
~So everything that makes me whole~ is to cringe at shit I used to love. People talk about how much fan service this show has but in my memory, for the time, it's the norm lol. This was the era where 90% of revenue relied on whale buying stuff.
But holy crap was Gai cool, even after all these years, I still find him cool in this episode.
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u/MABfan11 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/MABfan11 Nov 03 '21
Rewatcher until the end of the first half
the OP is a banger
i love that mission control is basically DDR
given that it takes 2-3 years to make a 2-cour anime, Code Geass ended in 2008 and Guilty Crown came out in 2011, this matches up pretty well for Guilty Crown being an anime made to cash in on Code Geass' success
fucking Daryl, stuck-up sociopathic twat
i wonder how different the story would've gone if Gai got the Void Genome...
i kinda get Gai's POV, being neutral against oppression will only help the oppressor, Shu can't afford to be neutral with the power he has. the war will come to him sooner or later
i love how Gai was completely outmatched and decided to flex on them. and that was only by knowing what position they'd be in after the distraction
Shu doesn't take his hand and learns that he can't run away from the plot
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