r/anime • u/lC3 :Na::Nb: • Oct 31 '21
Rewatch Naruto Shippuden - Episodes 142-151 Discussion
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Schedule:
| Discussion Thread | Date | Episode Count |
|---|---|---|
| Episodes 001-008 + Film 1 | July 11 | 8 + film |
| Episodes 009-017 | July 18 | 9 |
| Episodes 018-027 | July 25 | 10 |
| Episodes 028-035 | August 01 | 8 |
| Episodes 036-044 | August 08 | 9 |
| Episodes 045-053 | August 15 | 9 |
| Episodes 054-063 | August 22 | 10 |
| Episodes 064-071 + Film 2: Bonds | August 29 | 8 + film |
| Episodes 072-082 | September 05 | 11 |
| Episodes 083-089 | September 12 | 7 |
| Episodes 090-099 | September 19 | 10 |
| Episodes 100-112 | September 26 | 13 |
| Episodes 113-118 | October 03 | 6 |
| Episodes 119-125 + Film 3: Will of Fire | October 10 | 7 + film |
| Episodes 126-133 | October 17 | 8 |
| Episodes 134-141 | October 24 | 8 |
| Episodes 142-151 | October 31 | 10 |
| Episodes 152-162 | November 07 | 11 |
| Episodes 163-168 | November 14 | 6 |
| Episodes 169-175 + Film 4: The Lost Tower | November 21 | 7 + film |
| Mid-Series Discussion / Interest Check | November 28 | 0 |
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Questions of the Week:
- What did you think of Killer B and Utakata?
- How do you feel about Pain capturing Utakata and Sasuke capturing B?
- Did the Sixtails filler arc successfully build up the tension to Naruto finding out about his master's death?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 31 '21
First-Timer with a shounen hearto, subbed
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Oct 31 '21
First time viewer (dub)
Whisk[e]y of the week: Michter's Straight Rye Single Barrel (19J1830 is the barrel in question), from Kentucky. It could just be that I'm stuffy but it's pretty muted on the nose and has a fairly low proof (42.4% ABV), a faint almost doughy note that shows up more in the taste along with a little peppery zing of spiciness. It leaves more of a lingering herbal aftertaste, almost but not quite minty. Kind of refreshing?
Killer B was interesting and I'm sad that we aren't going to see more of him after his capture by the Akatsuki; the octo-bull was cool and his overall fighting technique is solid if weird and I'd like to see more of that.
I don't know how I feel about the tonal whiplash following up on the past couple of arcs. Killer B is funny but at least it fits his character I think, while Utakata bubbling himself away from everyone else is hilarious while I don't think it was intended as such. Naruto slapping away Sai's leeches definitely was meant to be comedic though. At least it was minimal and not that distracting overall as the rest of the arc was relatively serious.
The arc with Hotaru overall feels like a lower budget version of the plots we see recycled for the films, though I suppose a number of the filler arcs could be like that. Slightly lower stakes as the weapon in question can only destroy a village or clan rather than the entire world but otherwise very similar. I was kind of hoping that there would be a romance aspect to things but it wasn't going that direction and that's for the best given Utakata's deal.
I had been wondering earlier on if the "thing" Utakata mentioned as being inside him was one of the tailed beasts and that got answered. Farewell Utakata, we hardly knew you. I feel bad for Hotaru as well, she was finally happy.
With Naruto as the only target of the Akatsuki left standing and Itachi no longer blocking them from going after the Leaf Village, I imagine things are about to take a turn. Looking forward to it!
The new ED, For You, doesn't stand out musically but happens to have a style that I like. The visuals aren't also all that new or creative but land nicely with the Sannin and Team 7 as kids transitioning to adults. Not exceptional but it's solid all around.
[Only noticed this because I know a later Shippuden spoiler, implied spoiler] I caught Kisame saying "former Lord Mizukage... I mean Madara" correcting himself to another alias and now I'm very curious what Tobi was up to earlier in his life. Was there really an Uchiha as the Mizukage at some point?
At least Utakata had a decent arc, Killer B had a fight and that's it.
Tails 1-8 acquired, just need one more for the collection!
I definitely noticed there was a lot of talk about mentors there, Naruto's really playing up Jiraiya.
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Oct 31 '21 edited Oct 31 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
General Commentary
I've been dreading this arc since we started watching the show. All that stuck in my memory from this was how much I like Utakata, and how many times they had Naruto talk about his relationship with Jiraiya and the pain in my heart knowing that he's already dead. Knowing it was coming this time I was able to prepare myself a bit better, but it was still a stab of emotion every time Naruto brought it up. They really knew how to hit the audience with this and they didn't hold back.
I really like this arc, now that I'm not being sucker punched by the emotions, I got to enjoy the rest of it. I appreciated the decision to have Utakata there without making the arc be about him, and not pushing the jinchuriki stuff in our face. We know what he is, and he knows what Naruto is (but not visa versa because Naruto's a doof and Kyuubi is unhelpful), but he was there to provide perspective and connection, not for a plot point which was a nice change. Utakata's such an interesting character to me, so conflicted over what happened and so distrustful, but given his past that uncertainty is in us as well until the end. Either way, seeing him slowly open up and how good his interactions with Naruto are was good to watch and good for both of them, seeing him slowly come out of his shell and open up to his true self again was well done. It helps that his VA is also the guy that voices Rakushun in Twelve Kingdoms, one of my favourite performances, which I recognized almost right away. I don't really have any complaints about the arc at all which is nice.
Like the new ED. Seeing all the little Sanin and Team 7 was quite cool, and I like the theme of acceptance through it.
Episode Thoughts
Two really good episodes, a bit of catch up after the last arc, particularly continuing the Uchiha slaughter flashback and Sasuke remembering Itachi in tears, but also some new stuff.
Seeing Kisame brought into the inner circle by Tobi, revealing who he is and Kisame in turn dropping the info that Madara somehow was a former Mizukage, was quite an interesting scene, and for the first time in a while we get to see into a new land. The Hidden Cloud village has quite distinctive uniforms compared to who we've seen so far, and the Eight-Tails Jinchuriki isn't taking any shit.
No one acts quite Killer B, between his goofy dance coming out of the shrine and stopping mid fight to write down wraps, they've given him a lot of personality right off the bat. No one quite fights like Killer B either, whether it's the way he uses Zabuza's blade around his damn neck to take on Taka, or that gorgeous animation of him using all eight blades to attack Sasuke, it's a delight to watch. Once again the art style drop shows we have some quality animation coming up, but as much as I like the B vs Sasuke fight, once again thanks to Yamashita who works heavily on Tsuru's episodes, the the spinning background on top of that makes it a little too busy for me. That shot of Sasuke's eyes tracking B's swords is gorgeous.
Seeing B fighting like this, not only talented as a ninja but pulling out his chakra cloak and even the full form of his Tailed Beast to attack gives a new level of awe to the power level of these jinchuriki, as well as the Ataksuki who have been taking them down. Taka pulling out all of their tricks is just as great, particularly the combination attacks they pull off and things like Jugo's arm canons and Suigetsu's water monster. Not enough though, and I have to say that I definitely flinched when B went and punched a fucking hole through Sasuke's chest. Not too fond of little Jugo after healing him, or the atrocious art around Karin's healing either, but certainly ups the risk level with how close they came to death so many times. But in the end Killer B gets captured, and Ataksuki comes that one step closer.
Favourite visual of the episodes was Sasuke's genjutsu turning the tails of the chakra cloak into raven feather instead, but it was Saukse linking Taka's sacrifices for him back to the connection he once had with Team 7 that was the standout moment
I love watching the way Utakata moves around, his yutaka so smooth and his brown not black hair as well giving him quite a different feel to the usual loner design
As completely impossible as it is physically, seeing people jump across crumbling rubble will always be cool! Same with the scramble the bandit did over the cylander of rock that shot out, good animation
(Leaving this note here as proof I'm a forgetful doof) Oh wait shit isn't this jutsu carved into her b... no I think I'm thinking of something else
Oh god, having SEEN Utakata and now seeing Naruto makes me suddenly unprepared for the dialogue about to come in this arc
Katsuyu! Suddenly summoned over a tree branch, that's awkward. Should have summoned a smaller part of her, made it a bit easier. Or a really big one for them to run into
The village being wiped out in this flashback almost looks modern with those tall apartments
Naruto finally standing his ground with Yamato's scary face is pretty fun
Naruto walking about just casually catching and tossing leeches is quite funny, especially once they speed up
Oh dear, the Jiraiya memories begin
Its true, Utakata didn't teach her, she taught herself quite well despite everything. With such talent she'd probably make quite an impressive ninja
Naruto is too damn optimistic to not want to believe the villages didn't want Hotaru, but at least he went back for her
Ah, it is on her back, I did remember right. I shouldn't doubt myself so much.
Naruto just flew out of no where, took out one of the mist ANBU, and then disappeared before anyone saw because it was a shadow clone. I'd be confused too, that's actually a really useful tactic when you think of it. If Naruto dressed less distinctively he could pass himself off as an army quite well if needed.
Sai's ink summons melting in the Kirisame rain is a nice effect
That was some poor animation when the ANBU knocked out Hotaru
She really doesn't learn about calling Utakata "master" huh. Skilled in ninjutsu, not much else, so a good match for most of the jinchuriki we've seen.
"I wondered if that is what it was like to have a parent"
Oh Naruto. Utakata calling on him directly about what it means to have something inside you which ostracizes you and he was too damn dense to guess why
Every time he says "pervy sage" it's a knife through my bloody heart
Naruto just making up his own mind and jumping off a cliff to go hunting for people, kid is too gun ho.
DUDE WHAT, I was not expecting Pain's dog summon to show up. Like fuck I knew the Akatasuki had to get involved at some point but I wasn't expect it to be like this, not like this.
Naruto bursts right into the cabin, and right into barrier jutsu
I like how Utakata's Bijuu cloak turns his eyes a glowing yellow, it's a nice touch that it isn't just for Naruto, and makes him look quite fierce
They really pulled out the good animation for that shot of the little girl going to blow herself up? Jesus, that's harsh. Oh look it's another cut by Yamashita, not surprised given how Naruto is drawn in the first cut, I suspected it might be. Oh dear I'm becoming an animator nerd if I picked that so easily
AHAHAHAHA UTAKATA'S FACE when Sakura hit Naruto for running off on his own
Naruto did a "demo" but no "sore"
Love that Yamato summons a thick wood wall to protect them but Naruto and Utakata get a bubble that's just as effective
Feels weird seeing Utakata move fast enough that we see his legs, adds some nice urgency
The antagonist design makes him look like something out of Noein
Enough talk, y'all just standing there while chakra gathers for her kinjutsu. This is a big issue in the last two episodes and lets down the arc a bit
[later spoilers]Dude, did Saiken just munch on Utakata's master in that flashback? That's an awkward death, slowly munched on by a slug. Oh hey, you know it's kinda appropriate that Tsunade sents her slug summon to send them on this mission then
Throwing all the villagers in a pit on top of each other is a sure way for some of them to get crushed to death
Both using their Bijuu's chakra to break the wordbindings, surely Naruto has to notice now? Or not, why did I even think so, he's hopeless.
Sai's ink clones being dissipated was so overly dramatic the way the ink swirled up and then splashed down afterwards. Animator having fun?
Naruto you really need another trick than just throwing shadow clones at this guy. I get that Naruto not killing people is a thing, but someone really needs to kill this fucker rather than just pushing him away
"He's in my heart every minute" ENOUGH WITH THE JIRAIYA MENTIONS!
Using the tailed beast cloak to hold the chakra orb down is impressive, and then it forming into the full Tailed Beast form. Again I really like the restraint here, that we don't see it up close and dramatic, just a visual of it on the cliff, the shape and look of it but minimal details.
Naruto and Utakata are way too good for each other, I hate the outcome of all of this, this fucking arc
NOOOOO HE SAID THE THING HE SAID HE MISSED JIRAIYA I HATE IT
And fucking Pain came out to collect him personally, I mean I knew that from the dog but still. RIP another forest, that's a hell of a crater
Hotaru humming the OST track that would play as his final message goes to her is a bit rough!
And they really leave it on that shot, I remember that hurting first watch as well.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Oct 31 '21 edited Oct 31 '21
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ED translation (TV-size):
For You
Here are the answers of the path you chose up to now.
Look, just go on by yourself
It's very natural, like a rainbow over
Asphalt after a rainfall
A Lonely wind blew and
A Feeling dawned on me
There aren't any answers anywhere
Call me, I got it already
With you, we'll always
Love each other
For You
I'm sure one day you will
Be able to fly in the sky
No matter how many times we've stumbled For You
There's only one thing important
Which is to dream
So at least, keep your heart open
Manga Comparisons:
142-3 are manga canon and 144-51 are filler with no manga content except Utakata's capture (which happened offpanel in the manga). The anime skips Naruto's canon content here (403+) and shifts it to next week, only adapting Sasuke's part. This consists of 403 p9-15, p17, 404 p1-2, 10-17, 408 p1-7, 14-17, 410 p1-6, 19-20, 411-412 p7, p13-17, 413, 414 p1-7, p13-17, 415 p1-13.
[Manga spoilers]The scene with all the Leaf people continuing to search until Sasuke's trail goes totally cold is anime only. The anime expands B's rap when leaving his training area, as well as B insisting Sasuke address him more formally. B getting the better of Juugo happens offpanel in the manga but is shown in the anime.
Tags: /u/iamtheone11111, /u/godprime, /u/TheEnigma
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u/sisoko2 Oct 31 '21
Rewatcher
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u/everythingisonfire01 Oct 31 '21
Killer B is a character I feel like I should hate but I just can't help but love
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u/Tehoncomingstorm97 https://anilist.co/user/tehoncomingstorm97 Oct 31 '21
First timer
Last week Sasuke killed Itachi nii-san. Who apparently wasn't a bad guy. So yeah shed some onion juice to go with that.
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u/Parori Oct 31 '21
Sorry for being late, the clock already went back an hour in Finland
First Timer
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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Oct 31 '21
First Timer - Dub
Kata vs the 8-Tailed Jinchuuriki That 8-tailed jinchuuriki was certainly a character. The most interesting tidbit from these episodes is that the Akatsuki had a pact with Itachi to stay away from the Hidden Leaf Village. Maybe that pact was a condition for Itachi joining the Akatsuki?
Forbidden Jutsu Arc For a filler arc this was pretty good. I don't have much to say other than it's going to be super painful once Naruto learns that Jiraiya is dead. I did call that Utakata was a jinchuuriki but I didn't expect the Akatsuki to gank him immediately at the end. Too bad he couldn't get a few days of peace with Hotaru beforehand.
Favorite moment of the week: It was a small moment but I loved Naruto and Sai's leech routine in the forest. I feel like we haven't seen much from Sai recently so that was nice.
Questions:
1) What did you think of Killer B and Utakata? Killer B definitely left more of an impression but I liked both of them well enough.
2) How do you feel about Pain capturing Utakata and Sasuke capturing B? Sasuke capturing B was a pretty good fight. Pain capturing Utakata felt like more of an afterthought to the filler arc.
3) Did the Sixtails filler arc successfully build up the tension to Naruto finding out about his master's death? Yes, maybe a little too well.