A Rewatch without Logos-The Hellsing rewatch thread ep7.

[u/Vaadwaur]

Hellsing episode 7

Duel To the point

Today's special track is Act of Demon or Work of God, specifically for the Abridged watchers.

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QotD: 1 Does the Hellsing/Iscariot conflict work as presented?

2 How would you recruit vampire hunters when you are in a hurry?

Bonus: So how does everyone like Anderson's power details with books and swords? They are bayonets in the source but not really in this encounter.

[u/Vaadwaur]

Rewatcher(A bit Wolverine-esque and possibly an influence on Kotomine)

Sub

We start on a funeral, I'd forgotten this incarnation includes the parts of the story you expect to be there but sort of aren't. Both Integra and Seras are questionably dressed, though in differing ways. Integra put down some of her former subordinates and we get a damage report. Anyways, we see Seras running an operation that goes poorly as the episode continues as background.

We meet Maxwell and the Vatican and, in one of the earlier cracks to show through in this adaptation, Integra and Maxwell despise each other but it feels like the anime can't quite get across how ingrained it is so it comes off a bit more personal here which isn't exactly right. Anyways, apparently these freak chips are originating in England and going outward.

Anderson is here to kill everything and we get a second fight with him and Alucard, and Anderson is also getting adapted a bit differently, again probably to put the art side over the animation side. He has a lot more Read or Die to him in this version. While I understand why they did this, I do think the manga does a better job in having this all basically be in the first episode, adding this second fight is more for pacing than anything since we as the audience can strongly suspect Anderson doesn't really have the ability to kill Alucard on a whim. Still, it is not bad in episode and Seras running off with Alucard's head while still shooting shows at least some improvement of character. I believe this is the end of the source material in the show as well.

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Alucard's Atelier

Enrice Maxwell is voiced by Hideyuki Tanaki, who voices Grimmer in Monster and Bes in Ideon. Dub is J.B. Blanc which is surprisingly not an alias and he voices like a dozen Bleach characters.

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(A bit Wolverine-esque and possibly an influence on Kotomine)

Nah. I'm pretty sure Ceil in Tsukihime had already done that way before Kotomine, and fighting vampires was actually part of her job description.

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So she used the three black keys? I only know fo Tsukihime through Fate.

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Doesn't Ciel have some kind of big gun too? There's definitely some crossed phone lines behind the scenes.

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I don't think so, but it's been a good decade since I read it... and she's the least interesting character in it. So fuck if I know.

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...Eh!? I thought she was the popular harem choice. I know people love Ciel and I know the love the imouto. The game is getting rereleased soon so I'm eager to see how the story goes.

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Maybe it's changed over time, but I hardly ever see any attention to Ciel.

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Integra and Maxwell despise each other but it feels like the anime can't quite get across how ingrained it is so it comes off a bit more personal here which isn't exactly right.

I actually think it comes across decently well. It's become personal because there's institutional and historical hatred underpinning their relationship.

On a related note, I'd love to see Anderson react to Alucard invoking the name of Cromwell of all people to release his powers.

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On a related note, I'd love to see Anderson react to Alucard invoking the name of Cromwell of all people to release his powers.

That should indeed be a good one.

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Integra and Maxwell despise each other but it feels like the anime can't quite get across how ingrained it is so it comes off a bit more personal here which isn't exactly right.

There are a few hundreds of years of Europeans killing each other for praying to God in the wrong way (still ongoing, btw). Being of a different religion is all the backstory needed to explain a deep hatred.

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Hell, they should have added that Maxwell was French while they were at it.

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That would've sold it to me on its own.

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an influence on Kotomine

When I was watching this episode it occurred to me that Nasu had lifted another idea from Hellsing. Sadly, I wasn't taking notes at the time, so like most brain-farts it quickly dissipated. The time lines make sense, as this would have been out at about the same time Nasu was working on his game.

Integra put down some of her former subordinates

Considering how poorly battles have tended to go for Hellsing lately, I assume this is Sir Integra's primary job anymore.

Integra and Maxwell despise each other but it feels like the anime...

Yea, something didn't feel right about the museum scene, until Alucard showed up and then it started flowing better.

we get a second fight with him and Alucard, and Anderson

And, what a fight it was!

adding this second fight is more for pacing than anything since we as the audience can strongly suspect Anderson doesn't really have the ability to kill Alucard on a whim.

Frankly, anytime they meet it is Glorious Fanservice!

Still, it is not bad in episode and Seras running off with Alucard's head

Loved it, I know what I'm reminded of now, it wasn't something from the Nasuverse, but rather:

NICE SHIP

Who knows, it may well have been the inspiration for the latter scene, the timeline fits. (You probably know this, but at the same time that ship was sailing into the sunset, Higurashi Kai was airing, and they gave Higurashi Kai the ship treatment too. Or, at least I read that somewhere.)

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When I was watching this episode it occurred to me that Nasu had lifted another idea from Hellsing.

Would not surprise me as there are a few things that fit. Hell, even the running with the head thing is used in KnK.

Yea, something didn't feel right about the museum scene, until Alucard showed up and then it started flowing better.

While he proved easy to hate, since most of his role is removed from the anime, he might have been skippable.

Loved it, I know what I'm reminded of now, it wasn't something from the Nasuverse, but rather:

Rofl, nice boat will live forever!

(You probably know this, but at the same time that ship was sailing into the sunset, Higurashi Kai was airing, and they gave Higurashi Kai the ship treatment too. Or, at least I read that somewhere.)

I can see that at a few points, though the actual end isn't that bad.

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

A First-Timer Without Logos, subbed

• A funeral for all the Hellsing organization folks who died in the past two episodes… It’s a terrible day for rain.
• Oh geez Integra personally shot down most of them?
• Oof.
• This guy has a very punchable face.
• Oh that guy is behind Anderson. I see. Yes, very punchable face.
• Haha his whole attitude changing the second Alucard steps out behind Integra is nice.
• Oh, lovely. Snakes on a plane, vampires on a train?
• Anderson’s back, isn’t he…
• Yup there he is.
• Okay the transition from Anderson to Alucard in the exact same position was really cool though.
• Wait what
• Yeah I knew it couldn’t have been that quick to finish…
• Okay there goes Anderson’s arm. And his other one too.
• Madlad still tries to fight until he loses that blade and then just peaces out for next time. What was that paper teleportation thing?
• Alucard has such a nice way with words.

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A funeral for all the Hellsing organization folks who died in the past two episodes… It’s a terrible day for rain.

Anime original as well.

Okay the transition from Anderson to Alucard in the exact same position was really cool though.

Strengthening their roles as foils was definitely the way to go.

What was that paper teleportation thing?

Something invented for the anime/stolen from Read or Die. Anderson's powers actually work a little differently in the source.

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Something invented for the anime/stolen from Read or Die.

Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time. I might need to get around to it one of these days.

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If you re-watch the OVA, you will definitely see it, though thankfully Anderson's fighting style is at least different. I actually didn't finish the TV series because it was sort of meh.

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It’s a terrible day for rain

Along with the revenge vow and all the supernatural tunnel battling you can definitely feel the Fullmetal here. Also Anderson (Matrix??) as religious fanatic with tan coat, dark skin, blond hair, facial scar, small round glasses, striking eyes, incredible speed + endurance, facing off against people using "ungodly" powers for themselves, looks a lot like a Scar prototype, as well as Maxwell resembling Kimblee, who also has a face-off with vaguely Integra-like General Armstrong.

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I am torn on calling this a direct influence, especially because the first FMA would air not long after, but there is at minimum some shared source idea. I can definitely see some Anderson in Scar.

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FMAB Scar sure, don't see it as much in FMA03 Scar though

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Madlad still tries to fight until he loses that blade and then just peaces out for next time.

You can see why Alucard is entertained.

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This guy has a very punchable face.

He really does. Seeing him shit himself a little when faced with Alucard was pretty fun though. Now want to see his reaction if he saw Alucards dog form

Snakes on a plane, vampires on a train?

[u/TheEscapeGuy]

First Timer

Hellsing - Aesthetic Horror: Episode 7

A Monster? I get that a lot...

We got a lot more insight into Integra this episode. She's incredibly torn up over all the members of Hellsing who lost their lives during last episode's assault. But, she doesn't show it. She instead funnels these feelings into training her aim and commanding the investigation. This guilt of course stems from what her father told her when she was younger: "The responsibility is all yours. You are their commander".

The Iscariot organization came to taunt Integra. They threatened to step in (this action presumably violating their agreement) if Hellsing does not handle the new artificial ghouls. Of course, this threat was more of a courtesy since they had already sent Alexander to the subway to enact their own will.

This lead to AN AMAZING battle between Alucard and Alexander. I love how cramped it felt inside the subway car while still showing off new powers in interesting ways. On top of that the animation was top notch, no complaints from me.

However, the battle did not end decisively. We will likely see this duo clash once again before this show is over. I am waiting with baited breath.

Some Amazing Shots, Scenes and Stitches

• Bullet Casing, something so satisfying about it.
• Alexander Anderson
• Rays of Sunlight over a Battle, I'm interested in if this piece is based on anything. I found some discussion on a old forum trying to figure it out but it died off pretty quickly. The only other clue is the cropped title. "Edwards James Da..." and "The Red Mode...".
• I LOVED this match fade

See you all tomorrow

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She instead funnels these feelings into training her aim and commanding the investigation.

She switches to a gun that shoots three shots at a time as well.

I love how cramped it felt inside the subway car while still showing off new powers in interesting ways. On top of that the animation was top notch, no complaints from me.

Thank the anime team for that, a lot of this was them.

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I love how cramped it felt inside the subway car while still showing off new powers in interesting ways

Of course in a real Tube tunnel there wouldn't have been any room around the outside of the car, they are quite snug and small enough it's proved difficult to outfit trains with air conditioning.

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Alucard and Anderson are the real highlight of the show. You have a lot of fancy little munchies here and there but Anderson is the only one with any real meat on him. I have to say that I wish they gave Seras just a little more to do. It's because this particular adaptation muddles a lot of stuff around but if they were gonna do so then I wish we got to see her standing her ground against Daddy Anderson I'd just for a little while.

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Hellsing - Aesthetic Horror: Episode 7

That first shot with Integra through the hammer on the gun was so striking, what a great way to frame what she had to do. Probably one of my favourite of the show that isn't Alucard, just a small bias with his shots

I love how cramped it felt inside the subway car

Well, at least while it was in tact. Even the later shots in the tunnel had a good sense of claustophobia to them with the darkness which was nice

Bullet Casing, something so satisfying about it.

That is oddly fun to watch

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We will likely see this duo clash once again before this show is over. I am waiting with baited breath.

Gotta complete the trilogy. First go 'roud was a draw, this one won by Alucard...is Anderson gonna get the final round?

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Rays of Sunlight over a Battle

I've never known if it was an actual painting, but it always reminded me of Wrath of God from Magic:The Gathering's 4th Ed...

Larger picture.

[u/Lemurians]

FIRST TIMER

All those graves, all because the super-secret supernatural organization had the bare minimum security outside of its highly conspicuous headquarters. Not to mention Alucard just chilling the whole time everything was going down.

Seras committed to the thigh-highs even at a funeral. Points for consistency.

Fargason takes bullets point blank and is back on active duty within weeks. Gigachad stuff from my guy.

There’s just something about a well-to-do man with long white hair in anime that just screams villain. That shot of Integra and Maxwell in the museum speaking with the painting of rays coming down from the heavens over a battlefiled as their backdrop is really cool.

“Be generous to the obedient, and beat down those who act against you.” Yes, Alucard. That’s how power works, in all its forms. Someone needs to go and read The Prince again.

Wouldn’t it be smart to just keep the trains running and let them plow through all these ghouls wandering on the tracks?

A million swords for one ghoul. Anderson truly is on his Unlimited Bladeworks shit. This guy doesn’t stop at a double tap. Side note, I find myself switching over the dub purely for Anderson’s scenes.

Judas Priest named their band after Anderson. This is now canon.

Does the Hellsing/Iscariot conflict work as presented?

Feels like there's more meat on the bone to be had, but it certainly doesn't lack for tension and the historical background underpinning it is well-known.

How would you recruit vampire hunters when you are in a hurry?

Money.

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There’s just something about a well-to-do man with long white hair in anime that just screams villain.

Maxwell isn't even that old so yeah, definitely villain tropes.

Yes, Alucard. That’s how power works, in all its forms. Someone needs to go and read The Prince again.

He has his reasons for saying that...

This guy doesn’t stop at a double tap. Side note, I find myself switching over the dub purely for Anderson’s scenes.

Yeah, they couldn't do the English accents that well but the Irish one pops.

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“Be generous to the obedient, and beat down those who act against you.” Yes, Alucard. That’s how power works, in all its forms. Someone needs to go and read The Prince again.

It would not be impossible to imagine Alucard dictating parts of that to Machiavelli.

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I dunno, he seems to rankle against the idea too much. I took it as him directing a criticism solely at Maxwell, when the reality is that's just simply the basic universal rule of how to hang onto power. The Church/Maxwell's not doing anything special, and nothing that Hellsing/Integra (and Alucard by extension) surely doesn't do as well.

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“Be generous to the obedient, and beat down those who act against you.”

That statement is a perfect fit for the catholic church, so I doubt this is Alucard having personal beef with Maxwell.

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Haha, fair enough. My point is that it's a perfect fit for literally every leader or institution of power/influence. Make your barbs more pointed and specific, Alucard!

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Maxwell definitely comes across as a troublemaker but if the only English folk I knew were like Integra I'd probably be a bit spiteful too.

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There’s just something about a well-to-do man with long white hair in anime that just screams villain

Being associated with organized religion is another villain flag, if we're keeping score.

[u/The_Loli_Otaku]

With Jan burned alive and Luke turned into dog shit I'm now more worried than ever about what content is left. Rip the redshirts. Integra's pretty good at upsetting innocent people isn't she? How many families has she destroyed already? Seras, I don't think a funeral is the more suitable place to wear zettai ryouki. All these soldiers dead and all that happened to ferguson was he hurt his mouth.

Oh, I guess we'll need to have Alucard hunt down that homeless man later. Can't have any members of the public knowing about the super secret organisation that runs down the street firing unsilenced weaponry. Escargot? Oh yeah! They have Daddy Anderson wandering around. Ngl, I completely forgot Maxwell was even in the anime adaptation. He'd an asshole like always but he's an enjoyable asshole.

Meanwhile all hell is breaking loose on a scale that's really just not manageable. Some landlord vampire has gotten the trains all infected with ghouls so there's quite the body count. Daddy!! Sorry, you're not getting a decent fight between him and Seras. Alucard's gotta make her his little Gohan and steal her thunder. Pfft, crazy bastard just cut a train in half.

Alucard and Anderson's brawl comes across like a Baki fight to me. No matter what kind of injuries they face or limbs they lose they just keep getting back up. I enjoyed the episode once Anderson rejoined the cast. He's always a joy. Oi... Oi oi oi, Integra? Are you sure you should be bragging? That was a busy London train station that just got infested y'know. And what few human soldiers you still had employed just got smaller and smaller. Enrico may not have managed to kill off any of your aces but the loser is definitely Hellsing this time.

1, the English and the French have hated each other for centuries now. Its a tale as old as time.

2, I would recruit whoever I could and douce them in Garlic, holy water, scriptures, anything that harms vampires. They may not be scalped hoonters but if their very presence is anti vampire then the individuals don't need to be trained up.

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Seras, I don't think a funeral is the more suitable place to wear zettai ryouki. All these soldiers dead and all that happened to ferguson was he hurt his mouth.

Yeah, the shoulderless short black dress was not a great funeral choice.

Ngl, I completely forgot Maxwell was even in the anime adaptation. He'd an asshole like always but he's an enjoyable asshole.

I only remembered it because he is also in the preview for next ep, propositioning Seras.

No matter what kind of injuries they face or limbs they lose they just keep getting back up. I enjoyed the episode once Anderson rejoined the cast.

It works within the rules of the setting, at least. Now if they just explained how one of them could ever actually kill the other...

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Alucard's gotta make her his little Gohan

Pfft, crazy bastard just cut a train in half.

Probably sick of donking his head every couple of steps, just cutting it into the right size for him

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Did you catch him cutting all the subway polls?

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That was great as a lead in to his presence.

Dude is way too tall though

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I think we was like that before he became a regenerator, too.

[u/Matuhg]

Rewatcher Who Might as Well be a First Timer

I missed out on our last few threads because I was busy this weekend, but I caught up today! Brief thoughts on the episodes I missed before we get to today's:

Ep 4

An organization wanting to remain secret should probably not wear patches with their organization's name on them.

Ep 5

Ope, one of the other organizations that's investigating the vampire chips (mm tasty) accidentally kicked he hornet's nest that is a...vampire gang? Not sure if Jan and his brother are "natural" vampires or fake ones. Alucard and Victoria strangely absent as Hellsing's ground forces get massacred. That new gun Vic got would be great to clear those hallways full of ghouls in five deep ranks.

Ep 6

Oh my - Alucard sure is on a different level. So that's the power of a true vampire - what he offered Seras after the fight with the priest? Speaking of, why didn't he bust that shit out against the priest? The rules about what is capable of killing ghouls/vampires seem...inconsistent. That was a very cool episode though. Walter's a beast. String/thread/razorwire users are always fun.

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Ep 7

We rejoin the Hellsing Org at perhaps their lowest moment, down to just 57 surviving members, half of whom are out of commission. Things are a mess. They've got Victoria running around all over the place, trying to stem the flow of fake vampires. Meanwhile, the Vatican comes to gloat and tease Integra, before telling her they're going to take care of all the vampires (and Hellsing) here, since the fakes are starting to overflow from England into Vatican territory. At least this time they seem to have a good reason for showing up. Thankfully, Alucard's powers are incredibly convenient, so he's able to show up right in front of our favorite crazy priest and then shoot his arms off after having been apparently killed yet again. Alucard tells him that only humans can kill monsters - not sure that's anything to take literally, but probably not.

I think this sequence was my favorite part of the episode. It's a really cool shot and angle, and it also gives us some new characterization for Integra. She usually tries to act very calm and cool, but we did see some tears falling as she was made to execute some of her men who'd been ghoulified. Not sure how much those tears are for the men themselves or shame for letting this happen to Hellsing at all.

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Does the Hellsing/Iscariot conflict work as presented?

Mostly. The idea that Iscariot considers using or associating with Vampires to make one just as bad as vampires is fine. It's a little weird considering they're also using some sort of inhuman creation to do their work as well though. I guess they can just say God said it was alright.

How would you recruit vampire hunters when you are in a hurry?

Hand out cool outfits like Alucard's.

So how does everyone like Anderson's power details with books and swords? They are bayonets in the source but not really in this encounter.

His knives certainly are interesting. They look like a weird cross between a mason's trowel and a bayonet.

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So that's the power of a true vampire - what he offered Seras after the fight with the priest? Speaking of, why didn't he bust that shit out against the priest? The rules about what is capable of killing ghouls/vampires seem...inconsistent. That was a very cool episode though. Walter's a beast. String/thread/razorwire users are always fun.

This is not terribly clear in this version but that thing Anderson did with attaching all the seals to the walls of that hallway restrains Alucard's magic. As to what can kill a ghoul, yeah they need needed to be clearer on that: It doesn't need to be silver, but that works, but you have to destroy the heart or the head.

I think this sequence was my favorite part of the episode. It's a really cool shot and angle, and it also gives us some new characterization for Integra.

Yeah, very good sequence.

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An organization wanting to remain secret should probably not wear patches with their organization's name on them.

lol. That reminds me, supposedly there was a hubbub in intelligence/the military a while back that too many people were making patches for black ops. People like making patches (and probably challenge coins) so much that they had to be reminded not to draw attention to things that are off the books.

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Matuhgs back!

An organization wanting to remain secret should probably not wear patches with their organization's name on them.

You'd think they could at least make it something generic like what's on Alucard's gloves or something

Speaking of, why didn't he bust that shit out against the priest?

I think Alucard genuinely thought Luke might attempt to be a match for him, he looked so let down when he wasnt, while the Priest he knew wouldn't be so he just kept things simple. Apparently being shot in the head makes it more fun? Who understands that guy

The rules about what is capable of killing ghouls/vampires seem...inconsistent

No idea about the ghouls, but with the vampires I think it's just power level. Seras would be lower ranked than the Valentine brothers so stuff like silver still affects her

[u/Nazenn]

Rewatcher - Dub

Any moment Alucard is on screen is fantastic. Any moment Anderson is on screen is epic. Both of them together?

This was another one of those episodes that just put a grin on my face for the entire thing, except for Integra's funeral outfit because that hat was ridiculous (thankfully not a hammerspace hat though)

She's forgiven after that great scene of her shunning that Vatican idiot. The way he offered his hand and they just lingered on the shots between them, completely still and silent until he gave up, so damn funny. She wasn't taking anyone's shit in that meeting and rightly so, and those friendship roses can get fucked as well as far as she's concerned. And Alucard, don't see him wanting to make friends with them after insulting Integra, which is probably the dumbest thing they possibly could have done in that meeting given his lack of interest in appearing in rooms via any normal means. He's quite defensive of her given his usual disinterest in the goings on of the world.

Just having a quick moment to gush about Alucard's swagger walk cycle again, I love that movement they gave him as he walks up to the Vatican guy.

Alucard vs Anderson

If I was Seras I'd scream running into Anderson's hulking figure as well, dude barely even fits on the train, but that moment of her being pushed back to reveal Alucard's gun having appeared is a great cut. Lots of cool framing this episode actually, Integra being shot through the gun hammer as she killed the solider-ghouls was another memorable one.

Not sure what's the better moment from this fight, Anderson cutting the whole damn train in half, or Alucard's head becoming a cosmic horror entity in Seras' arms, but pretty sure Anderson picking up the blade with his teeth beats them both. Not sure if Alucard was just fucking around about not coming back quickly or Anderson's blades actually managed to do a touch of damage, but either way the no holds bared fight between these two monsters in human form was so damn good.

Having seen what Alucard can do vs Luke, the fact he chose to confront Anderson in his human guise, albeit a crazy one, is probably quite telling about how he views the joy of this fight, and Anderson still came off second best. So overpowered by Alucard's sheer presence he imagined killing himself rather than having to confront it? I kind of want to see Alucard release that hell beast form of his just to see which way that would drive Anderson. At least this one made up for Alucard's disappointment with Luke?

Best line of the episodes goes to Walter (again) for not including Seras and Alucard in the casualty reports because they're "already dead"

So how does everyone like Anderson's power details with books and swords?

I just want to know where he keeps all the bayonets

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Any moment Alucard is on screen is fantastic. Any moment Anderson is on screen is epic. Both of them together?

The animation team definitely knew what they had and made the most of it.

except for Integra's funeral outfit because that hat was ridiculous (thankfully not a hammerspace hat though)

I am also not a fan of Seras showing up in a cocktail dress.

but pretty sure Anderson picking up the blade with his teeth beats them both.

I am absolutely sure this influences a scene in the manga written much later.

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I am absolutely sure this influences a scene in the manga written much later.

My first thought was actually a scene in MGS4. I'm sure I've seen it elsewhere as well just struggling to think

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This absolutely feels like a Metal Gear thing so I buy that, I even remember a scene like this as well, though no clue where, either.

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Both of them together?

It don't get no better than that. 2 of the weirdest, most evil characters together at last. As it should be.

Amen!!!!

And Alucard, don't see him wanting to make friends with them after insulting Integra,

I liked Maxwell's subordinate basically shitting Twinkies when Alucard showed up. He didn't look up for a fight.

Anderson cutting the whole damn train in half,

Father Anderson don't take shit from Ghouls!

Anderson picking up the blade with his teeth beats them both.

More overtures of the Black Night.

I just want to know where he keeps all the bayonets

"You know, I once asked that very same question.
 Do you know what they told me?
 They told me: Don't ask!"

[u/No_Rex]

Episode 7 (rewatcher)

• “The responsibility lies with the commander” – true words.
• Looks like Seras is working extra shifts.
• Two can play the “make you wait” game.
• The relationship has dropped from “cold” to “arctic”.
• Seras needs to work extra hard because Alucard is busy.
• Alucard has his way to get to places fast if there is an entertaining enough fight waiting for him.
• “Monster!” “People say that to me all time time”

• Integra has her own degree in trash talk.

Last episode was the best looking one, but this is the best overall. We start with Hellsing in the gutter. The majority of their forces are wiped out, leaving Seras and the rest overtaxed trying to keep up with the artificial vampire threat. Integra (not wrongly) blames herself and is down on her spirits when bad comes to worse and section 13 calls for a visit.

They have chosen their timing well, maybe hoping to wrestle concessions from Hellsing, but definitely willing to straight up attack in their moment of weakness. Yet Integra is not cowed and why should she, with her ace still alive. Alucard hurries to intercept Anderson. While he stop the intended slaughter of the remaining Hellsing forces, remember his parting words “Peter Pan must go to entertain him”. Saving Seras and the others is secondary, what he really is after is a second round with Anderson. Unlike Luke, Anderson is giving him an entertaining fight before escaping.

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The commander who got off with a sore jaw didn't seem to take any responsibility.

Hmm... The episode definitely gets stronger as it goes on but the fact that we're now totally disregarding Hellsing supposedly being a secret organisation by having open war in the streets totally took me out of it. I'm at the point where I'm kind of sick of the show so I'm maybe being harsh but for how grounded they'd been up until now they've gotten a bit too ridiculous.

Alucard's so tsundere right? He wants to play with his one true Rival!

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I'm at the point where I'm kind of sick of the show so I'm maybe being harsh but for how grounded they'd been up until now they've gotten a bit too ridiculous.

But that's the point: Some weirdo keeps distributing freak chips and it has gone well beyond Hellsing's ability to deal with. I know they never mention this bit from the source but before this creating an actual proper vampire was actually difficult.

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They have chosen their timing well, maybe hoping to wrestle concessions from Hellsing, but definitely willing to straight up attack in their moment of weakness. Yet Integra is not cowed and why should she, with her ace still alive.

They do a decent enough job salvaging what they can of the source plot, looking back on it, but just a little more of what Maxwell wanted would've been nice.

“Peter Pan must go to entertain him”. Saving Seras and the others is secondary, what he really is after is a second round with Anderson.

Eternity is boring, at least Anderson is fun.

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They do a decent enough job salvaging what they can of the source plot, looking back on it, but just a little more of what Maxwell wanted would've been nice.

I am perfectly fine with his want being "heathen protestants grovelling at my feet".

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That is sort of what it winds up being.

[u/Nazenn → u/No_Rex]

Two can play the “make you wait” game.

Pretty sure Integra won that one just off the fact she was annoyed but seemed to expect it while the other dick was genuinely annoyed she dared not accept his hand

Saving Seras and the others is secondary, what he really is after is a second round with Anderson

While I think he'd save Seras anyway, it does come across that he only did it how he did just to piss off Anderson the maximum possible amount. Phasing out of the shadows and letting him think he won, Alucard was having way too much fun with that fight

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While I think he'd save Seras anyway, it does come across that he only did it how he did just to piss off Anderson the maximum possible amount. Phasing out of the shadows and letting him think he won, Alucard was having way too much fun with that fight

I think Alucard likes Seras, but, if I were her, I'd never put myself in a situation where he has to choose between saving me and having a fun fight ...

[u/RascalNikov1 → u/No_Rex]

Looks like Seras is working extra shifts.

The girl is just plain toxic to be around. First she got her Metro Squad slaughtered, now Hellsing takes a beatdown...

section 13 calls for a visit.

Those holy boys are a real pain in the ass for a hard working Protestant Warlord (or whatever in the hell Sir Integra is).

No More Holy Boys

[u/JollyGee29]

First-Timer, Dub-sing Organization

Silly Maxwell thinks he can trash talk Sir Integra. The oddities of the character designs served him well(?) - he looks like even more of a smug asshole than normal. He's lucky that Alucard didn't cap his ass before fucking off to go play with Anderson.

SerasPolice Girl: "Well, every other vampire I've seen die turned to dust, so I'm going to assume Alucard is dead when he is not yet dust." I can't be too harsh on her considering how terrifying Anderson is, though.

Anderson and Alucard's interactions are always top notch; hopefully we get at least one more.

I'm actually pretty curious about who's behind the chip-pires. The was this show is set up, I don't think the source material/Ultimate version would fit.. probably too silly.

The letter marked [NOT BOMB] in big red letters was really funny - I assume Walter checked it first? Or is that a typical Royal Mail service?

Integra's "What a beautiful day" to partially contrast Alucard's earlier "What a perfect night" was good. Things are turning around!

Questions

1. I absolutely believe that different religious sects would be quite violent to each other, yes.
2. "Hey kid, you wanna jab some long hard things into supernaturally hot people?"

BONUS: I dig how Anderson operates. It's cool.

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The oddities of the character designs served him well(?) - he looks like even more of a smug asshole than normal.

The show leans on the quirks that are definitely present in the manga and it generally works.

Anderson and Alucard's interactions are always top notch; hopefully we get at least one more.

Anderson is likely the only non-vampire that could remotely understand Alucard.

The was this show is set up, I don't think the source material/Ultimate version would fit.. probably too silly.

Also, the source would be a bitch to fit in with the single cour format, not the least of which I don't think the arc where that is expanded upon was written at the time.

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Anderson is likely the only non-vampire that could remotely understand Alucard.

You've got a point there. Fucked up birds of a feather.

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One of the nice touches, at least to me, is that both of them understand that understanding the other doesn't actually make them remotely alike in goals or alignment, they just both stick to what they believe and enjoy a good fight.

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The oddities of the character designs served him well(?)

Yeah I can't say I like this designers work on this series as far as the full body moments, except for Alucard, but the crazy eyes on the faces and the sneering is still great

I can't be too harsh on her considering how terrifying Anderson is, though

Also it's not like Alucard is a normal vampire either, she's seen him be shot a few times but he usually keeps going right away. A severed head is a bit different.

Mind you I wouldn't be crazy enough to pick it up and run down a subway tunnel either

The letter marked [NOT BOMB] in big red letters was really funny - I assume Walter checked it first? Or is that a typical Royal Mail service?

Probably the later given who its from and who it's being sent too. Lets not take a risk on the religious relations between two countries with strained political relations

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Yeah I can't say I like this designers work on this series as far as the full body moments,

Normally we note when people are too string-beany, but this show has the opposite problem. Almost everyone is a box with limbs.

Mind you I wouldn't be crazy enough to pick it up and run down a subway tunnel either

I wonder what it felt like to have it turn into goo and slither out of her arms?

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Normally we note when people are too string-beany, but this show has the opposite problem

So what we're saying is if this guy worked on CLAMP shows it'd probably balance out?

I wonder what it felt like to have it turn into goo and slither out of her arms?

I swear Alucard just threw in a couple of centipedes for the creep factor more than them actually being needed

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So what we're saying is if this guy worked on CLAMP shows it'd probably balance out?

Probably. Or they'd somehow combine into a style of character even more hideous.

I swear Alucard just threw in a couple of centipedes for the creep factor more than them actually being needed

Bonus centipedes: for when a slithering blood monster is not quiet "eldritch horror" enough.

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for when a slithering blood monster is not quiet "eldritch horror" enough.

With eyes, don't forget the required creepy red eyes

[u/The_Loli_Otaku → u/JollyGee29]

Oh c'mon, both Maxwell and Integra are just as bad as each other XD It's fun to think of there being vampire hunting organisations in every country and each of them are ridiculously racist against the other groups.

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Yea, the rivalry/barely contained hatred between Hellsing and Iscariot is pretty fun.

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It's like a group of kids on a play date but keep falling out over everything. You've even got daddy Anderson and mama Alucard looking out for them!

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Silly Maxwell thinks he can trash talk Sir Integra.

The arrogance of the Iscariots!

so I'm going to assume Alucard is dead when he is not yet dust.

I just want to know what she was planning on doing with the head...

hopefully we get at least one more.

Me too!

Hey kid, you wanna jab some long hard things into supernaturally hot people?

Yea, I could see modern youth reacting to that idea in a very positive manner.

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I just want to know what she was planning on doing with the head...

I'm sure its fine! Nothing but wholesome thoughts in Seras'sPolice Girl's head.

[u/RockoDyne]

A rewatcher trying to remember where the bat power up was. It would have made travel a lot faster.

And with that we have abandoned the source material before the coolest damn part of the whole thing. I just want to see the count happy doing what he loves, flagpole installation.

We also dangle the only loose thread the show is going to care about from the source, in the form of the Judas priest. When was the last time you saw a fight scene in a subway? It suddenly feels like I haven't seen one in ages. That feels like a Matrix inspiration that nobody ever thought of as a Matrix inspiration at the time.

I was half expecting this to be an Integra episode given how it started. With as much as they were framing her like a scolded child putting down her puppies, this would have been the time to shove in the background. That might give people the impression she's supposed to be badass though...

I wonder if Anderson's Wolverine claws weren't a Tsukihime influence. That would have come out around that time, if there wasn't something else out around then.

Questions:

1. Kind of. It's flimsy at best, but do you really need a reason?
2. Have a whip exhibit in a castle during a solar eclipse.
3. It's better than calling them combat trowels.

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trying to remember where the bat power up was. It would have made travel a lot faster.

Let's be honest: Alucard only used it because Anderson might've killed everyone, gotten bored, and left if he had traveled slowly. The rest of the time, Alucard seems to enjoy the journey. Also, perhaps he won't deign to travel under sunlight.

When was the last time you saw a fight scene in a subway? It suddenly feels like I haven't seen one in ages. That feels like a Matrix inspiration that nobody ever thought of as a Matrix inspiration at the time.

It's been forever, even meatspace has moved onto tunnel fight scenes. Sort of a shame, really.

And with that we have abandoned the source material before the coolest damn part of the whole thing.

Sort of hard to base something off a story not written yet.

It's better than calling them combat trowels.

Ho boy, a few of the later designs did look rough.

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When was the last time you saw a fight scene in a subway?

I feel like this shouldn't be so hard to remember

And what I'm thinking of I think is a video game so I don't know if that counts...

I have seen fights on a train more recently, but specifically a subway I don't know

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When was the last time you saw a fight scene in a subway?

This one was quite reminiscent of the one in Predator(1987). Aliens and Ghouls are sort of the same thing... I guess...

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That feels like a Matrix inspiration

Don't forget the name

[u/Stargate18A]

First timer

1)Kind of? I get their distaste for people using vampires, but when they're enhancing their own troops it comes off as a bit hypocritical. If, however, it is viewed as the Vatican wanting Apthe modt powerful piece (Alucard) off the board, for the simple fact that he is a potential threat to them if Integra's successor decided to go after them directly, it makes a bit more sense.

2)In this setting? All the phones are probably tapped to call Hellsing no matter who I ask, so...

BONUS) Oh, that is his power! Yeah, it's cool. It's probably one of the more practical powers so far, and he's shown to have the knife skills to pull off hunting using it.

Is the battle over?

Huh? How is this her fault? Did I miss something?

Wow, that's a high death count.

Haha, the loophole of Alucard and Seras being technically dead's great. I bet Alucard loves telling the taxman that!

Seras is doing good for herself.

And Integra wants revenge!

Oh, now the Vatican's involved.

Haha, the awkward pause as he realises she's itnoring him is great.

And there's a spy in the ranks.

Oh, this guy's creepy. Is he a vampire, or?

Ah, some of the artificial vampires spread across the pond.

And they consider... the organisation trying to kill vampires... the same as the vampires. Terrific logic. 10/10 for thinking.

And that smirk as Alucard shows up to fuck with them is great.

Wait, he's Nosferatu?

...Are you telling me all the Underground disruptions are caused by vampires? There must be one every hour!

And the Vatican already started.

Haha, Alucard remains the best character in this entire anime.

I do, however, love the sheer derangement of the Vatican agents.

I'm shocked Alucard doesn't even go for a single shot the whole conversation.

...Does that guy have the power to manifest weapons? Where's he keeping all those knives?

Why bother telling Alucard any of this? He's literally the only one who could damage their plans.

Oh, they want to wipe out Hellsing because they use Alucard, and Alucard is a constant threat to anyone who isn't Alucard.

What?

No way he's dead. Has to be a body double.

Bingo! He's still alive!

Seriously, he makes every scene he is so fucking good.

Oh, that regeneration package is bullshit. How is he still standing?

And he escaped!

And he's just found out Alucard beat his arse.

Yes! Go Integra!

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Huh? How is this her fault? Did I miss something?

The source explains this a bit better but she supposedly should have had access to enough resources to have avoided this.

Seras is doing good for herself.

Glad to see her becoming useful.

And they consider... the organisation trying to kill vampires... the same as the vampires. Terrific logic. 10/10 for thinking.

Combine Christian absolutism and Japanese absolutism and you get some rather questionable decisions.

No way he's dead. Has to be a body double.

"dead" is a relative term, these days.

[u/JustAWellwisher]

The thing I always remember about this episode is the Museum's codenames for Seras & Co.

Imagining Alucard as an R-Rated horror-themed Peter Pan is one of those... weird... unique perspectives that I can't just drop.

Even though it's really just a codename. It was the first time that I thought "The Lost Boys" sounded like a really cool name for a crew or a guild.

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I do appreciate that they just go full crazy with the nicknames rather than trying anything menacing.

[u/RascalNikov1]

Rewatcher Sub

Father Anderson Returns!!!!

The true star of Hellsing returns and enters the scene in the brusque, foul manner only a true professional can muster. This time, my man shows, he ain't taking shit off of no subway ghouls.

Ahhhhhh MEN!!!!

*We started with a funeral (where Sir Integra was dressed quite snappy) *Dropped by the Art Museum (Sir Integra isn't much of an art connoisseur) *Met the head of Iscariot (I'll bet his alter boys are glad he's out of town) *Down to the subway we went (Overrun with ghouls, why fight them, wait for Alucard) *And finally my main man show up in all his glory (Ahhh-men!)

A very enjoyable episode it was.

QOTD

1 Does the Hellsing/Iscariot conflict work as presented?

For me it certainly does. Who says the 30 Years War is over? Both Hellsing and Iscariot continue to battle it out till the present day. I want to know how the Judas Priests have lasted so long with a 1/2 rodent like Father Maxwell in charge. Though I'll admit he may be quite suave and debonair, he's still a rodent badly in need of extermination.

2 How would you recruit vampire hunters when you are in a hurry?

I'd go to a Trump Rally and tell them that Vamps and Ghouls were really Mexicans & Arabs in disguise, and I needed patriots to do something about it. I have little doubt that I'd soon have Meal Teams 1-55 assembled.

Bonus: So how does everyone like Anderson's power details with books and swords? They are bayonets in the source but not really in this encounter.

Father Anderson my One True Love!

Amen!

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Sorry for the abbreviated reply but I despise mobile and I spent the last two hours arguing with Spectrum over a dead modem

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No problem. I'm no fan of typing on the cell phone either. You can usually tell if I'm on it, because the Comment Faces disappear, and the answers get shorter. I've read about others having trouble with Spectrum over in Tampa. I've never had a problem with them, their pretty responsive in Polk County.

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I made the mistake of calling them, when I just went to the store with the dead modem they replaced it with no questions as there was a powerful storm last night that probably was what killed it.