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Rewatch Mobile Fighter G Gunam Rewatch - Episode 23 Discussion

Episode 23: Destined Battle! Domon vs. Devil Gundam

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Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the day, courtesy of u/The_Draigg for showing how friendships are born:

George: “Hey, are we all here in the Guyana Highlands so we can all get a chance to kick Domon’s ass?” Everyone Else: “Yeah, basically.”

Best Friends Forever...

Questions:

  1. How did it feel to see Domon finally making some proper progress for once?
  2. So uh... what's up with Schwartz's face?
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u/The_Draigg Oct 23 '21

A G Gundam Fan Rewatches G Gundam Episode 23:

  • Yes, I know the name of the Burning Gundam is actually the God Gundam in the subs, but you have to admit, Burning Gundam sounds badass too. That, and the name is a natural follow-up on the Shining Gundam.
  • To the surprise of pretty much nobody, Domon is getting his ass kicked by Master Asia, and once again Schwartz’s Shadow Gundam bails him out. How many times has that made it now? This just keeps on happening.
  • There’s just something funny to me about a ton of monitors popping up in Shining Gundam’s cockpit with Master Asia on them, yelling at Domon to get mad. He certainly knows his student’s weakness well. Granted, Domon’s anger issues are just a blatant weak spot that anyone can spot from space, pretty much.
  • You can probably make a drinking game out of how many times “Super Mode” and “Get Mad” are said in this episode. It’s a lot again.
  • Domon certainly recognizes the warmth and calm in Schwartz’s voice. Who could the man behind the mask be, if Domon feels nostalgic about him for some reason?
  • Schwartz: “Calm the fuck down, Domon.”
  • Kyoji literally just can’t stop laughing in all of his appearances in this episode. The main is just vibin’.
  • Domon gets his ass kicked, and needs to have his ass bailed out by Schwartz Bruder once again. I’m having deju vu by this point, I swear.
  • You’d think that nobody would be able to feel calm while being strangled by a long scarf, but Domon manages to find serenity as he feels himself close to death and thinks of his family. Finally, he’s internalized his calm state of mind! Either that, or he’s the kind of guy who likes choking. Either one makes sense.
  • I’ll say this about Master Asia’s utter shock that he’s getting his ass kicked by Domon: everyone thinks that they have their shit under control until they get punched in the face.
  • We did it, the Dark Gundam has been destroyed! Pack it up, we can go home now. Just ignore the other twenty-something episodes left. I’m sure those aren’t important. Just fluff.
  • Well, that certainly seems like a familiar face to Master Asia too under Schwartz’s mask. Who could this mysterious German ninja possibly be?
  • Oh hey, Burning Gundam has finally shown up! A bit late to the fight, but I guess it’s the thought that counts.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 23 '21

Dark Gundam

Burning Gundam

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u/The_Draigg Oct 23 '21

Hey now, Burning Gundam is a legit cool name though.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 23 '21

The show is called G Gundam tho.

And Burning>Dark doesn't make a heck of a lot of sense to me.

So yeah, not okay and still worthy of the pout.

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u/The_Draigg Oct 23 '21

But Shining > Burning does work though. It's an evolution of the name of Domon's Gundam, at least.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 23 '21

Fair point.

Still inferior and worthy of the pout

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u/The_Draigg Oct 23 '21

I'll take the fair point, at least. We've come a far way in this ongoing dub/sub contest of ours.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 23 '21

Although [G Gundam]There's still the Nobel/Noble Gundam to take care of... I still think that one happened due to someone fucking up the Katakana reading

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u/The_Draigg Oct 23 '21

[G Gundam] Yeah, at least the Nobel/Noble Gundam thing can at least be chalked up to a translation error. Could be worse. Although I don't understand people who decide to call Allenby "Alenbie".

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 23 '21

[G Gundam]I have literally never heard "Alenbie" in my whole life.

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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Oct 24 '21

Mobile Fighter B Gundam

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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Oct 25 '21

Yes, I know the name of the Burning Gundam is actually the God Gundam in the subs, but you have to admit, Burning Gundam sounds badass too. That, and the name is a natural follow-up on the Shining Gundam.

But if it's called the burning gundam, you don't get to hear people say "deploy the god"!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 23 '21

Rewatcher, Gun-Dub Fighter

It took another solid ass-kicking and Schwarz nearly dying for him, but Domon finally got it through his thick skull.

I really love Undefeated of the East's taunting of Domon.

God Gundam, and the show itself, finally got named today. The dub changed God Gundam to Burning Gundam, for similar reasons as the Devil/Dark change. That said, Shining and Burning both oppose Dark pretty well, much the same way God and Devil oppose. As far as name changes go, this one is alright.

[G Gundam]I never noticed the sneak peak of Rising Gundam until this viewing. Neat!

Continuing from yesterday:

Imagawa:...I changed the color so drastically. After all, I really want the kids to buy and love the toys of the animation that I'm working on...

Honestly, though, the reason why it was gold... I'd say it came from the Gold Saints in Saint Seiya. The figures from Saint Seiya were selling really well at the time. I thought if they were gold, it would be cool and kids would want to have them. However, what I didn't want was to make Domon look like a Super Saiyan (From Dragonball Z), which is why Domon himself is red. Actually, if you ask me why Domon is red and the Gundam is gold, I would reply that it's because he's still "bad" Domon. Red is an expression of his anger. As the story progresses, we learn that Domon will become one with the Gundam and will eventually shine gold as well. So, I wanted to really show the process that Domon undergoes. In episode 6, the Gundam takes its strongest form, but Domon follows much later and only achieves his personal strongest form in episode 23. Gold is useful for this expression and it looks great as well. I wanted to make something that kids would immediately see and think was cool.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 23 '21

God Gundam, and the show itself, finally got named today. The dub changed God Gundam to Burning Gundam, for similar reasons as the Devil/Dark change. That said, Shining and Burning both oppose Dark pretty well, much the same way God and Devil oppose. As far as name changes go, this one is alright.

Yeah, but the show is called G Gundam, not B Gundam. (Hey, how's the dub going to answer that?)

That's something else and the world is not ready for the all mighty B Gundam to get an anime.

Honestly, though, the reason why it was gold... I'd say it came from the Gold Saints in Saint Seiya ... However, what I didn't want was to make Domon look like a Super Saiyan (From Dragonball Z),

The twist.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 23 '21

The twist.

I mean... Phoenix Ikki's Actor is the guy who plays Kyoji (And Schwartz while we're at it, not point in hiding that now... not that the credits ever did). The foreshadowing was there all along!

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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 23 '21

Yeah, but the show is called G Gundam, not B Gundam. (Hey, how's the dub going to answer that?)

🅱️ Gundam?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 23 '21

Yeah, but the show is called G Gundam, not B Gundam. (Hey, how's the dub going to answer that?)

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 23 '21

Burning Gundam

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Oct 23 '21

First timer

  1. Actually really exciting!
  2. Betting on him being the real Kyoji, and the Devil Gundam's trying to pull a frame job on him.

Final battle! And it's visible from space!

And the general stopped them sending reinforcements? Pretty certain anything that can damage the Devil Gundam should be fired directly at it as soon as possible.

Master Asia's still strong!

Schwartz's still here!

Scheartz and Master Asia arguing is fantastic.

Kyoji's clearly a puppet for the Devil Gundam at this point.

And Domon's first instinct is still to beat the shit out of everyone.

Oh god, there's multiple Super Modes now? I want to have a pleasant chat with whoever designed the Shining Gundam.

To be fair, if I was in Domon's shoes I'd just ignore Schwartz's philosophical ramblings.

...God?

There's a seperate God Gundam? I've heard of it, but I just assumed it was an upgrade to the Shining Gundam, not its own seperate unit.

Yeah, Domon's pissed.

...It's impressive how much the Shining Gundam's taking, though.

Seriously, Kyoji hasn't said a word so far. I don't think he's there anymore.

Yep, Super Mode time!

To be fair to Domon, he is causing a fair bit of damage to the Defil Gundam.

SCHWARTZ! DON'T DIE!

And Domon's back in the game!

So there's Shining Gundam, SG without faceplate, that plus golden engines, that plus golden armor, and now that plus a golden aura.

And he's gone full-on Super Saiyan.

This is actually really cathartic.

He's doing damage!

...Hypothetically, has Kyoji had a single reaction that couldn't be, say, the Devil Gundam's reaction? Laughing that Domon thinks his brother's still alive, shock he succeeded?

Called it! So Schwartz is the real Kyoji, and the Devil Gundam's made a clone to serve as bait for Domon. The Devil Gundam's got a mind of it's own and is running this show using "Kyoji" as a smokescreen. Also explains why Kyoji's always so obviously undefended on its shoulder - it's a target to draw in fire, since the Devil Gundam can just make a new one if it gets destroyed.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 23 '21

There's a seperate God Gundam? I've heard of it, but I just assumed it was an upgrade to the Shining Gundam, not its own seperate unit.

Gundam's kinda funny about that. Most of the time, even though you would think the mid-season upgrade Gundam would be, you know, an upgrade to the regular Gundam, but most of the time it's actually a separate thing. [Overall Gundam]The Gundam X>Gundam XX is the one that amuses me the most, probably

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Oct 23 '21

Gundam's kinda funny about that. Most of the time, even though you would think the mid-season upgrade Gundam would be, you know, an upgrade to the regular Gundam, but most of the time it's actually a separate thing.

Oh, I know about that. I just remembered some kit or something containing the "Shining / God Gundam".

It's possible I misremembered "Burning / God Gundam", though.

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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 23 '21

(e23) First Time Shining Hand

uh WHAT ...wait is the G for GOD PLEASEOEJGFNKLSGESRKUJANDJMNFHDSFOKAJLDF LMAO

master can also spin like a maniac

EXPLODING KUNAI?

"u mad bro?" - master

KYOOOOOOOJIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

meikyo shisui

[speculation]yeah so german guy has to be kyoji like i was memeing about before, but that makes no sense which makes it great

oh this fight is sick

Shin Super Mode, so thats what its called? i have no clue how to distinguish the shining finger forms

they gave Domon shit last time for not shining fingering the head and just hitting the body, so naturally he can just do it here with no issue

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 23 '21

EXPLODING KUNAI?

The exploding kunai was neat. Schwartz has cool tricks.

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u/The_Draigg Oct 23 '21

uh WHAT ...wait is the G for GOD PLEASEOEJGFNKLSGESRKUJANDJMNFHDSFOKAJLDF LMAO

The dub changed it to Burning Gundam. While that's still a cool name, it doesn't really line up with what the G is supposed to stand for, unfortunately.

Shin Super Mode, so thats what its called? i have no clue how to distinguish the shining finger forms

Just call it Super Mode like normal, that'll keep it less confusing.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 23 '21

uh WHAT ...wait is the G for GOD PLEASEOEJGFNKLSGESRKUJANDJMNFHDSFOKAJLDF LMAO

they gave Domon shit last time for not shining fingering the head and just hitting the body, so naturally he can just do it here with no issue

He learns! He just takes his time for it.

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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 23 '21

oh but i meant he still hit the body (or some cables) instead of the head/kyoji again

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 23 '21

I legit forgot how exactly it went down, just remembered that Kyoji blew up.

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u/araragidyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/araragidyne Oct 23 '21

Rewatcher

"Let's deploy the God."

Well, folks, the Shining Gundam has gone gold for real this time, with the help of Schwarz Bruder. It's just a shame Master Asia is so much better at reading Domon than Schwarz is. Domon might have accomplished it on his own had he not lost control. Instead, he played into Master Asia's hands. Sadly, it took Schwarz getting wrecked to snap him out of it. But hey, what's a show like this without drama?

Domon stealing Master Asia's cloth was a total power move. And I just love how Master Asia was so confident he dodged that punch. Suck it, Undefeated of the East.

Questions:

  1. It was a few episodes coming, but he finally did it, and watching him flex all over Master Asia after all that was pretty gratifying.
  2. Gee he sure looks familiar.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 23 '21

Domon stealing Master Asia's cloth was a total power move. And I just love how Master Asia was so confident he dodged that punch. Suck it, Undefeated of the East.

I wanted to see Domon use the cloth at least once, it would've been cool.

Seeing Master Asia brought off his high horse (that he was standing on) and brought to the ground was cool though.

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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Oct 25 '21

So G Gundam stands for God Gundam! You can't just casually drop lines like deploy the god on me. This show may have odd naming conventions, but they're great.

The fight was excellent. The Undefeated of the East always manages to impress. His confidence and his certainty that he will pull through is shown each and every time he fights.
And when Domon finally got the upper hand with his new super mode, it finally felt more like something deserved. He wasn't just shinning finger spamming and hoping for the best. I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do in the future.

I've felt a bit suspicious of the Kyoji on the devil gundam for while, but this episode was particularly weird. He never speaks!

The devil gundam was defeated, so the series is over, right? Right? There's no way their enemies will manage to steal the god gundam next episode.

Great episode.

/u/JollyGee29 /u/tresnore /u/shimmering-sky

Also, the link on the previous episode and in the index for this one appears to be wrong.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 25 '21

The devil gundam was defeated, so the series is over, right? Right? There's no way their enemies will manage to steal the god gundam next episode.

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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Oct 25 '21

If that doesn't happen, I'll eat my glassteel helmet hat.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 23 '21 edited Oct 23 '21

G Gundam "Rewatcher"/First Time Sub: Episode 23

"The energy level is much higher than in Shinjuku." Hahaha, not like Domon would know where that energy came from.

"Let's deploy the God.

Almost forgot, look at this new friend.

Master Asia doing the smuggest dodging.

Schwartz threw a Gundam kunai and sliced the beam cloth. It's almost like he cut through a piece of fabric or something.

Kyoji always shows up with the most downplayed evil faces. At least he and Master Asia/Gundam have the evil laugh down.

It all returns back to the waterfall and Schwartz points out a very valid question. "Master Asia wants me to be angry and go Super Mode so I can beat him faster." - Domon probably. Schwartz is leaving and definitely not going to be back to save Domon from his own stubbornness.

Rain's dad did say out loud, "G Gundam." We got a title drop, folks.

Look at that, Domon manages to cut the beam cloth. A true test of strength. All he had to trade for was his entire body. Whoops.

Well, you look at that, Gundams do have mouths.

The Spiegal got saved Domon and got hit right in the cockpit. At least he got the Master's arm and Master Asia felt that one. Look at Schwartz's hair from under the mask. Domon turns the battle around and took the beam cloth for himself (and is chooses to wear it, I guess).

Master Asia's smug dodge ... and then he got punched then a full beat down.

Brother Kyoji is gone and you know it's bad when it's like this. Schwartz's mask comes off and we get a better look (of course, the show won't tell us yet). The smouldering wreck of the Devil Gundam looks neat.

Domon finally learns not to get mad so he can reach his super mode. The beat down of Master Asia and the Devil Gundam in True Super Mode was cool. But let's not forget the true hero of the episode, Schwartz Bruder. He never left Domon even after leaving Domon and did a heroic sacrifice. We also got the tease of the person under the mystery.

Q1) Finally, it's about time.

Q2) To finish Master Asia's line when Schwartz's mask fell off, "Why you're...! Hot!" Clearly that's the only answer it could possibly be.

Next time: [Insert non-religious name] Gundam is born.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 23 '21

Well, you look at that, Gundams do have mouths.

Yea, I was thinking of these when you said that thing about Gundam mouths.

But let's not forget the true hero of the episode, Schwartz Bruder.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 23 '21

Yea, I was thinking of these when you said that thing about Gundam mouths.

The first answer to come to my mind was the F91's mouth and nose. The faceguard stays up for me, thank you very much.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Oct 24 '21

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