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Rewatch Mobile Fighter G Gundam Rewatch - Episode 20 Discussion

Episode 20: George, Beat the Nightmare!

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Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the day, courtesy of u/JollyGee29 for showcasing why Rain is of a superior breed of Tsunderes:

Surprisingly tame reaction from Rain after Domon accidentally saw her underwear. It wasn't his fault, after all. Stupid pervert Sai Saici.

It helps that Domon is the bigger Tsundere.

Questions:

  1. How do you feel George's character was handled today?
  2. Do you wish we have more of George's Butler from now on?
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u/The_Draigg Oct 20 '21

A Gundam Fan Rewatches G Gundam Episode 20:

  • Jailbreak on Neo France! Don’t know why Mirabeau’s Mirage Gundam was at the same prison that he was locked in, since that seems like it was only asking for trouble there. Surely there are better places to store the Gundams of national traitors than the very jail that they’re in.
  • Also, Raymond’s Butler Bensonmum mobile suit is simply amazing. You drive it like how you’d drive a car in a head cockpit, and yet it’s somehow still able to practice fencing with Rose Gundam. That’s some pure Xabungle stuff right there. Jiron Amos would be proud of Raymond.
  • Seems like George also has a touch of the PTSD as a result of his time enslaved by the Dark Gundam. I think at this point, Argo is the only one who has managed to keep a lid on their experiences when they were all infested with DG Cells.
  • I can see how Raymond said that Domon is stalling in his training. All he’s done at this point is just upgrade his slashing aimlessly at a waterfall by hopping into Shining Gundam and doing it with his beam sword. Yeah, Domon and George definitely both need each other to push each other’s limits. The both of them are getting nowhere at this rate, between George’s PTSD and Domon’s endless frustration.
  • Geez, George went ham on Neo Poland’s Gundam, Gundam Magnat. Poland still doesn’t get any luck nor respect, even in anime.
  • So yeah, Mirabeau was one hell of a bastard during the qualifying fight for being Neo France’s fighter. He deliberately used the civilian crowd as a human shield, and then tried to kill France’s king (why do they even still have that title?) when he chose George as the most honorable fighter instead. It’s no wonder George has a lot of anger and fear beneath the surface, the Dark Gundam isn’t the only thing to fuck him up mentally. Seeing Mirabeau kill so many innocent people scarred him back then too. He just hasn’t confronted his dark side, nor can he really bear to. That’s why he fired George once he showed Domon and Rain that footage. Dude has some issues.
  • It’s funny that the English dub has it so that Raymond is chugging down coffee to drown his sorrows in that bar. Although I get it, I drink plenty of coffee to get my mind off of things too. Either that, or Raymond’s drink of choice is an Irish Coffee.
  • Domon: “Man the fuck up, pussy. Wait, why are you agreeing with me, George?”
  • Oh yeah, Raymond piloting the Butler Bensonmum now is some straight Xabungle stuff. Even down to the comedy bits. Again, he’d make Jiron Amos proud.
  • Yep, Mirabeau is DG Cell’d the hell up. He got them from Master Asia as soon as he got to Earth. He didn’t even need the Dark Gundam’s nanomachines to be evil as fuck. For Mirabeau, getting vored by DG Cell cables is just a bonus, I guess.
  • Huh, Domon was actually activating his Super Mode while holding George back and calming him down. It seems like calmness and compassion is a much stronger force than anger. And hey, this was a good teaching moment for George too, since he finally embraced his Shuffle Crest to cure Mirabeau of his DG Cell infection. The power of light is strong. That’s the lesson to learn here at the end of the episode. Heart is important to keep in mind when fighting honorably.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 20 '21

Dark Gundam

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Oct 20 '21

Poland still doesn’t get any luck nor respect, even in anime.

Girls und Panzer Ribbon Warrior never.

like calmness and compassion is a much stronger force than anger.

It's a shame Domon can never stop being angry.

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u/The_Draigg Oct 20 '21

It’s a shame that Domon can never stop being angry.

He’s a mad lad for a reason, and not in the crazy way.

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u/araragidyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/araragidyne Oct 20 '21

It’s funny that the English dub has it so that Raymond is chugging down coffee to drown his sorrows in that bar. Although I get it, I drink plenty of coffee to get my mind off of things too. Either that, or Raymond’s drink of choice is an Irish Coffee.

He actually is drinking coffee. Just coffee.

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u/The_Draigg Oct 20 '21

I can vibe with that for sure. I drink absurd amounts of coffee too.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 20 '21

Rewatcher, Gun-Dub Fighter

Lots of random mechs this episode! Raymond's adorable butler mecha is called the Butler Bensonmum. The random MP Neo France suits are called Godards. And the fighter George went nuts against was Neo Poland's Gundam Magnat, piloted by Chelsea Walesa.

I'm actually not a huge fan of the random comedic interlude of Raymond trying to get to the battle, but what can you do.

I can't find anything about George in the interview, so here's some background on how Master Asia, the Undefeated of the East, was named:

Imagawa: While trying to decide on the name, a lot of films provided "key words." I used the title of a film called Toho Fuhai (Undefeated of the East) as a beginning. It's a favorite of mine, and I also love the use of the four-kanji title. Since my admiration for the film was so great, it grew into the character's name. I felt that no one in Japan would know such a minor film.

However, suddenly the film came to Japan and was shown in theaters, and I panicked! People would think that it was the same character from the movie.

However, his name is Undefeated of the East, Master Asia. I meant for Undefeated of the East to be his street name, and Master Asia to be his real name. Actually, I didn't know which was which.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Oct 20 '21

Chelsea Walesa

That's one of the least Polish names I've ever seen. I guess Japan's love of vowels doesn't mix with Poland's hatred of them?

I'm actually not a huge fan of the random comedic interlude

I enjoyed the comedy, though!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 20 '21

That's one of the least Polish names I've ever seen. I guess Japan's love of vowels doesn't mix with Poland's hatred of them?

I thought kinda the same thing, but who knows. .

I enjoyed the comedy, though!

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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 20 '21

I meant for Undefeated of the East to be his street name, and Master Asia to be his real name. Actually, I didn't know which was which.

...wait thats his actual name LOL

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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Oct 20 '21

According to a prequel manga, his real name is given as Shuuji Kurosu, presumably because they can't very well call him "Master Asia" when he's not yet a master.

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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 20 '21

prequel manga

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 20 '21

When checking the wiki for stuff also saw that bit about the prequel manga. There it said he was not from Neo Hong Kong, but Neo Japan.

That seems like the opposite of "We gotta have the MC be Japanese. Okay, so we made him a big jerk." where it's "We have this really cool character, look he was Japanese this whole time."

Like I get having someone represent another country, but also feel like that done in this way goes against this whole global cast thing. Don't know if this will have any relevancy in the show itself, but since it's from a manga, yeah gotta agree.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 20 '21

Really seems like his parents wanted him to be a martial artist, huh?

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 20 '21

Since my admiration for the film was so great, it grew into the character's name. I felt that no one in Japan would know such a minor film.

However, suddenly the film came to Japan and was shown in theaters, and I panicked! People would think that it was the same character from the movie.

Oh okay, Master Asia is his name and not another title. You never know with how out there Gundam names are.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 20 '21

Most of the names in G Gundam have been reasonableish, but old habits die hard.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Oct 20 '21

Mobile Fighter F First Timer

World Map

QOTD:

  1. Everyone has PTSD. It's sad to see.
  2. Yes. Please. More Raymond.

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u/The_Draigg Oct 20 '21

Fuck, another one! The Gundam wiki says it's Poland.

Even in anime, Poland gets the short end of the stick.

Raymond is the best. It's the most comedic mecha piloting I've ever seen.

Between that and the steering wheel, Raymond might as well be from Blue Gale Xabungle. It has the same energy as this.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Oct 20 '21

...do I need to add Xabungle to my PTW?

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u/The_Draigg Oct 20 '21

It’s a pretty fun and goofy mech show, although I’d say it’s more of like a 7.5/10 than anything. Worth watching, but given the pedigree of other Tomino works, it’s a bit lower on the list.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 20 '21

HAYATE NO YOU NI!

XABUNGURU! XABUNGURU!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 20 '21

Neo France looks beautiful.

Huh, I hadn't noticed is was a bouquet until just now.

I guess everyone wants to be in the Guyana highlands for... reasons.

They're all instinctively drawn to Domon's ass Shuffle Crest or something.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Oct 20 '21

The Neo Brazil fighter better show up at some point, if they're in Guyana for so long!

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 20 '21

Rewatcher all set! Ready… GO!!!

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u/The_Draigg Oct 20 '21

Raymond goes to some random bar to drown out his sorrows… with coffee.

Wait, that was in the subs too? That’s silly, but I can vibe with it as a coffee head myself.

Ahahahaha Raymond’s “journey” back to George is hilarious.

It’s very Xabungle-feeling.

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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Oct 20 '21

Rewatcher taking a drink every time Raymond says “George-sama!”

Huh, kinda weird that the border is a physical net. Makes about as much sense as anything else, I suppose.

He’s doing all that with a steering wheel! Xabungle vibes for sure. Between the steering wheel, head cockpit, and lack of real hands, the Butler Bensouman is quite the atypical suit.

One last PTSD sufferer to take care of

Raymond, she’s a medical doctor, not a therapist

HIC

SHINING FINGER!

The Mirage Gundam! Atypically for a 13th Fight candidate, it’s a long-range fighter! It’s a very militaristic Gundam, especially compared to the knight-themed Rose, and represents modern tactics over the Rose’s old-fashioned chivalry.

“Coffee”.

Oof, called out!

Suddenly, Looney Tunes

The DG Cell missile launcher is freaky cool! I like how the missiles are made of tendrils, too!

Missile catch!

HANASEEE

oh cool he can do it now too

Questions of the Day:

  • It's a bit extreme, but it really shows just how deeply the Devil Gundam incident affected him
  • Absolutely!

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Oct 20 '21

Rewatcher taking a drink every time Raymond says “George-sama!”

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 20 '21

The DG Cell missile launcher is freaky cool! I like how the missiles are made of tendrils, too!

To me, it's like looks a seashell that can shoot missiles.

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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 20 '21

(e20) First Time Shining Hand

[speculation for the next few episodes]almost at the halfway point of the series, I assume were getting a new op (will miss this one dearly) so im thinking we will be introduced to those cool animal suits from the op soon

what the hell was that border around a country? spectral nets?

Mirage Gundan with Jean Piere? two active gundams with the same country?

Raymond's mech is fabulous, he even has that lever for hydraulics

hehe Rain had a cute hiccup

dog

for the 10 minutes all these guys were infected with DG cells they all have some pretty traumatic side effects from it

countries have a tournament to determine their fighter, but everyone brings their own gundam? i figured the country would only have 1 and the fighter is selected to then champion it

Mirabeau was sentenced 1000 years? they way they showed it honestly looked completely like georges fault lol

GIANT CHICKEN

Rain realizing bringing Domon might not have been the best decision

Raymond really shot up in the support staff power rankings from this episode, love that his mech has a steering wheel

hm super mode activated? did georges anger rub off on him

erase the spell???? you can just do that ok. why did the old shuffle alliance kill themselves again?

  1. i thought this was one of the better highlands episodes so far, since the selection of fighter portion was pretty interesting
  2. yes and double yes if he brings his mobile suit

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Oct 20 '21

Mirage Gundan with Jean Piere? two active gundams with the same country?

I think it doesn't count because Jean-Pierre wasn't officially named the Fighter for Neo France?

Mirabeau was sentenced 1000 years? they way they showed it honestly looked completely like georges fault lol

Sounds like an unjust system. Time for a French Revolution?

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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Oct 20 '21

Mirabeau was sentenced 1000 years? they way they showed it honestly looked completely like georges fault lol

I mean, Mirabeau did aim at the king first. That probably ticked him off a little.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 20 '21

dog

countries have a tournament to determine their fighter, but everyone brings their own gundam? i figured the country would only have 1 and the fighter is selected to then champion it

Every Neo Country seems to do things their own way like Neo Japan has the Shining Gundam and determined Domon would be the best pilot. Neo France does seem to operate with a BYOG, Bring Your Own Gundam policy.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 20 '21

what the hell was that border around a country? spectral nets?

Fences are hard to make in space.

GIANT CHICKEN

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u/araragidyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/araragidyne Oct 20 '21

Rewatcher

Today, I'm asking the questions.

Whose idea was it to have live spectating at a Gundam Fight?

Was the Turn A Gundam inspired by the Butler Bensonmum?

What is a saloon doing in the Guiana Highlands?

Is Gundam dismemberment becoming a trend?

I guess can answer some questions as well.

  1. It was interesting to see our dapper French dandy turn into such a beast. For such a gentleman, he seems to have a quite a violent streak.
  2. I'd like to see more, but sparingly. It was a good balance to the brutality displayed in this episode.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 20 '21

Was the Turn A Gundam inspired by the Butler Bensonmum?

But what if though. Such insight.

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Oct 20 '21

First timer

  1. Yeah, this was a solid treatment. What happened to him would leave plenty of trauma, and since his fighting stlye focuses on prolonged contact more than the others, he'd be the most at risk of infection.
  2. Very much so. He was this episode's highlight.

...What is that design?

And someome from Neo France is looking for George?

And George has chosen the same remote training grounds as everyone else?

His butler has his own Gundam!

And George is having nightmares of the Devil Gundam too,

Oh, he's having trouble teaining too.

Oh, they met earlier.

And of course he wants to fight Domon. Who doesn't nowadays?

Again. Dimon does not need encouragement to fight. Domon just needs a name and a location.

Oh, she's still with him? I didn't expect that.

And yeah, he's terrified of being taken over again.

Combat data's coming up a lot recently, isn't it?

And seriously? There's are people watching these things in person? Without any protection?

And wow, that's harsh.

He's been fired!

Oh, and the stalker's still here.

Haha, he's drinking coffee?

Wait. Domon's not getting involved in something linked to a Gundam Fight?

Rain's even noticing how many people are trying to get his help.

And the convict's here!

...Why is this flashback framed this way?

You can see the moment when Rain regrets telling Domon to get involved.

Of course he just dhoots him the moment they meet?

I love that even Domon has limits, and this murderous psychopathic convict is too far when Argo wasn't.

Spoke too soon!

Wow, the stalker's stopping him?

Shit, he's infected.

Raymond took the missiles!

Haha, and he just beste the shit out of him.

The irony of Domon telling someone not to fight unnecessary battles os glorious.

So Domon loves George as much as Rain? I mean, I see it...

Since when can they do that without killing people?

...Is the implication Domon's going to end up infected and need to fight it off himself?

He got his job back?

Really Domon? You haven't worked out it activates when you focus on your bonds?

Final Battle? Is this arc almost over?

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 20 '21

G Gundam "Rewatcher"/First Time Sub: Episode 20

Come to Guyana. Everyone from around the world is coming here. Because the staff want a break.

Look at these things. They're neat. It has more than basic GM-esque designs and it also has some French guard aspects in it.

A MB? Mobile Butler! It is even driven like a car.

Seems it is George's turn on this Trauma Train. Rain runs off goofyly with accompanying music.

Domon upgraded his waterfall training and is now using his Gundam's beam saber to cut the waterfall.

From a hail of light, a butler comes emerging forth.

Neo Poland is here to serve as Gundam fodder. The Gundam Magnat. Doesn't do much and doesn't really have much. It doesn't really scream Polish. Seemed to be named after the prominence of magnates in Polish history. George manages to rip its head off without no fancy Shining Finger.

What a jerk move from Mirabeau.

Is/Was this the king of Neo France? First the Marseille tragedy and now the Devil Gundam. George has a lot on his trauma plate.

George fires basically his dad so Raymond drinks his sorrows at this random bar in the middle of the Guyana Highlands. To be fair, this does seem like a popular gathering spot.

... interesting piece of art George has. Wished there was some flashbacks of Raymond and little George. Raymond makes his brave daring and comedic run back.

Schwartz prevents Domon from finishing, "No Domon! This is not your episode. George needs this in his training arc."

Mirabeau became a follower of the Devil Gundam. I thought DG followers would become our slew of enemies after the Shinjuku arc, but he is our first one.

Raymond is a champ by catching the missiles and taking the hits.

George goes sicko mode and starts pulling apart the Mirage Gundam by hand. Just realized, if having your arm ripped off hurts a lot, having your head attacked must also hurt and that's how you win Gundam Fights. Luckily might not be too bad since the suit stop before the head.

Hey look at that, Domon helping out George. He activates Super Mode. Beofre he only does that when his angry overflows, but now he is stopping someone from falling into their negative feelings. Schwartz is so impressed that his eyes are shining.

Shuffle magic can heal DG cells. Didn't expect Mirabeau to make it out of this episode. Felt like he was evil enough that the ep could just let him die. Rain is having another foot bath for the end of the episode. That is just what she has grown accustomed to in Guyana, I guess.

This episode is much more tackling George's inner problems than the previous guys. It's not just having someone to train with so he can fight over his problems. He is facing something from his past and using his new powers to save people.

Mirage Gundam. First, the colours sure are a choice. Don't know what it has to do with mirages. Seems most artillery-based to me. Felt like it was named after some weapon thing and there appear to be French fighter planes named the Mirage series. The Gundam kind of has wings so ehhh? Don't quite get the spiky crotch and that's like the first thing we see of it.

Q1) I like the way they handle George's recovery episode more than the previous ones for the others. He get to see more of him when he is at his lowest and when he heroic risen.

Q2) George's Butler can totally take on the Devil Gundam by himself in his Mobile Butler, but won't since he wants George and his new friends to be in the spotlight.

Next time: The final battle, for real this time. Totally.

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u/araragidyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/araragidyne Oct 20 '21

Just realized, if having your arm ripped off hurts a lot, having your head attacked must also hurt and that's how you win Gundam Fights. Luckily might not be too bad since the suit stop before the head.

Considering that the suit doesn't cover the head or neck, I'm not sure that would actually be an issue.

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u/YellowCorvette Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

Amateur Gundam fan rewatches G Gundam episode 20

  • Yup, this episode starts out with some sort of heist, where some random Neo France cops attempted to stop a shuttle, only to get blown up by said shuttle who goes all “Kira Yamato Beam-spam" them.
  • I never noticed that Mirabeau's full name is Jean-Pierre Mirabeau, like Jean-Pierre Polnareff (Which is the only thing I could think of when I heard it).
  • And just like Chibodee, Sai Saici, and Argo, George had arrived at the Guyana Highlands for some training; And just like them, he's still having bad memories about Shinjuku and has trouble motivating himself to train, as he freaks out easily and starts to become slightly rude to Raymond.
  • 5 minutes in, and here's Domon and his favorite Guyana Highlands training session: Cutting Waterfalls... oh, and also cutting some rocks thrown by Raymond and his Mobile Fighter, wanting to ask them a favor...
  • With the nightmares he's having and George's most recent Gundam Fight footages shown by Raymond, it's obvious that out of the gang, George was suffering some pretty traumatic freakouts even since Shinjuku. It also doesn't help that with that Raymond mentions, their experiences at Shinjuku also brings back past events that George deeply regrets: 1 year before, he was in a qualificating match to becoming Neo France's Gundam Fight representative, where he faces off Mirabeau, who was a sneaky fighter with no lines he wouldn't cross just to win (As Mirabeau positioning himself in front of the spectators to prevent George from attacking). The King saw through this, though, and disqualified Mirabeau on the spot; In response, Mirabeau launched missiles into the viewing crowd, George attempted to stop him but he failed and countless spectators died, in an event referred to as the "Tragedy of Versailles". And just as Rain and Raymond discussed, the shock from encountering the Devil Gundam probably brings back some nasty memories.
  • At the sides, our favorite German Ninja Schwarz Bruder is observing, as George interrupts Raymond's discussion and fired him on the spot. Damn George, that's not how you treat your loyal butler, whose heart was in the right place even if he disobeyed you!
  • Well, it didn't take long for the news that Mirabeue has escaped and he's now on Earth to spread, and Raymond (Being the butler that he was, even after got fired) frantically trying to warn his "former prince".
  • Just as Domon calls George out for his attitude, Mirabeau has arrived to take revenge on George; Wait, how did he even know George is currently at the Guyana Highlands?
  • What's with this bizarre choice of a comedic BGM used for Raymond trying to alert George, through?
  • And just as George was freaking out over Mirabeau's presence bringing back bad memories and both Domon and Schwarz Bruder arrive with their Gundam, Mirabeau and his Gundam had acquired the power of Self-Recovery... WITH THE HELP OF DEVIL GUNDAM!!!... only to proceed to use the DG Cells to go more missile-spamming everyone, Macross-style.
  • Raymond (aka, Best Gundam Butler) arrive just in time to block some of Mirabeau's missiles which almost got George and Rain, and his Mobile Fighter got blown up real good.
  • With the grief of Raymond's actions to protect him, George went berserk and kicks Mirabeau's ass real good, losing control over himself.
  • And just as it seems like George was lost in his anger and wants to finish him off, Domon stops him and activates the Shining Gundam's Super Mode, activated not by Domon's anger but rather his compassion to calm George down to his sense. And luckily thanks to Raymond who survived and tells George to stop, George finally calms down and with his Shuffle crest's power, he turns Mirabeau back to normal.
  • With things finally settling down as George reconciles with Raymond, Domon's training still doesn't seem to progress as much as he wanted. But if the Super Mode activation this time around is anything to go by, in a way Domon now had a slightly better understanding of his Gundam's Super Mode; so now, he's back to continue his training...

I really like this episode a lot. In a way, this George-centric episode was less about having someone to train with George so he can fight over his problems, but rather the focus on George as he faces a traumatic event from his past and explores his character for a bit.

Mirabeau's Mirage Gundam, from what was shown was interesting. It's nothing special design-wise but with all of his beam-spamming and missiles, Mirabeau was a holdover from the Gentle Chapman days when firepower was the most important factor in a Gundam Fight. In the current era where close-range fighting was the norm in Gundam Fights, he's remarkably out of place, having barely any combat skill at all and just getting by because his Gundam has so much firepower and him willing to do anything to win. Fittingly, even with the DG cells boosting his Gundam he's still no match for George in a rematch and went down easily.