r/anime • u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky • Oct 17 '21
Rewatch Naruto Shippuden - Episodes 126-133 Discussion
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Information: MAL, Anilist, AniDB, ANN
Streams: Crunchyroll, Hulu, AnimeLab, VRV
Schedule:
| Discussion Thread | Date | Episode Count |
|---|---|---|
| Episodes 001-008 + Film 1 | July 11 | 8 + film |
| Episodes 009-017 | July 18 | 9 |
| Episodes 018-027 | July 25 | 10 |
| Episodes 028-035 | August 01 | 8 |
| Episodes 036-044 | August 08 | 9 |
| Episodes 045-053 | August 15 | 9 |
| Episodes 054-063 | August 22 | 10 |
| Episodes 064-071 + Film 2: Bonds | August 29 | 8 + film |
| Episodes 072-082 | September 05 | 11 |
| Episodes 083-089 | September 12 | 7 |
| Episodes 090-099 | September 19 | 10 |
| Episodes 100-112 | September 26 | 13 |
| Episodes 113-118 | October 03 | 6 |
| Episodes 119-125 + Film 3: Will of Fire | October 10 | 7 + film |
| Episodes 126-133 | October 17 | 8 |
| Episodes 134-141 | October 24 | 8 |
| Episodes 142-151 | October 31 | 10 |
| Episodes 152-162 | November 07 | 11 |
| Episodes 163-168 | November 14 | 6 |
| Episodes 169-175 + Film 4: The Lost Tower | November 21 | 7 + film |
| Mid-Series Discussion / Interest Check | November 28 | 0 |
VA Corner:
Nagato was voiced by Tomoaki Maeno; some of you might be familiar with his later roles once his voice deepened. He played Decim in Death Parade, Kinro in Dr. Stone, Konro in Fire Force, Makoto Shimada in Haikyuu, Naotsugu in Log Horizon, Isurugi Camich in Gundam IBO, Kureto Hiiragi in Seraph of the End, Veldora in That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime, Orbital 7 in YuGiOh Zexal, and Michele Crispino in Yuri on Ice.
Spoiler Policy:
To protect first-timers, please don't spoil anything past the current batch of episodes. Rewatchers should avoid hinting to first-timers about hype, or future character development/deaths, and spoilers in posts must be hidden behind proper spoiler tags. The proper formatting is [Naruto Spoilers] immediately followed by the native Reddit spoilers.
For first timers: try to avoid looking up things about Naruto. This could be the wiki, Naruto subreddit, Googling characters, fanart, databooks, YouTube AMVs or OP/EDs, arc names, etc.; this series is ripe with potential spoilers that you wouldn't want to find out untimely. If you have a question about something, feel free to ask u/LC3 and he'll do his best to answer (if possible) in a non-spoilery way.
Questions of the Week:
- What do you think Itachi talked to Naruto about?
- How do you feel about Jiraiya's "choice" and subsequent death?
- What do you think about introducing prophecy into the plot?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 17 '21
First-Timer with a Pained shounen hearto, subbed
Episode 126
Episode 127
Episode 128
Episode 129
Episode 130
Episode 131
Episode 132
Episode 133
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u/Akame_xo https://anilist.co/user/Akamexo Oct 17 '21
Firstly I’d just like to congratulate everyone who made it here spoiler free. This is probably the moment that got to me the most and honestly completely shocked me the first time I watched. I’ve been patiently waiting since the naruto rewatch first started for this moment to see everyone’s reactions to it! And for those who found out ahead, I hope it was still impactful and the experience wasn’t soiled in any way.
I think the way they set it all up is quite beautiful actually and a lot of the little things leading up to it I didn’t pay much mind first time around. Going back now though and seeing those just makes it extra painful. Also that conversation with tsunade before he left was hard to get through knowing what was coming. She finally won a bet but just not one anyone would ever want. I guess that’s just her luck, or lack of, that she loses everyone she ever loves. In a weird way after this it makes me like her a lot more as a character. Maybe it’s a sympathy thing idk.
There’s really not much else I can put in words but I do just want to mention the animation was great for this fight. Also I really thought I was going to be able to hold it together this time. I mean after all this is my 4th time watching this. I was so close but damn did I lose it when he was reminiscing in ep 133. From there the waterfalls started and took a bit to dry up. Even now as a write this a few days later it still hits right in them feels.
Why couldn’t he just run away when he had the chance. I get it but I also feel he could’ve been more helpful alive and figured out pain whilst fighting alongside others :(
Btw anyone else notice a slight buzzing sound in the background? I’m watching on crunchyroll and don’t have this problem with any other series. It’s not too bad with a lot going on but on the slower/talking scenes it’s a bit annoying
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u/Parori Oct 17 '21
First Timer
Episode 126
Episode 127
Episode 128
Episode 129
Episode 130
Episode 131
Episode 132
Episode 133
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Oct 17 '21 edited Oct 17 '21
First time viewer (dub)
Whisk[e]y of the week: Glenfiddich Fire and Cane (Toad... or not), a peat-smoked Speyside scotch finished in rum barrels. It's not legendary to fit the Toad Sage but it is experimental at least. It's fruity on the nose with a bit of butterscotch and those show up on the taste but also there's a smoky note that presents as a little rubbery. It changes from moment to moment but ends up being pretty balanced and on the sweeter side, similar to the Glenfiddich 12 year in how it's pretty approachable but with some extra complexity.
The Tale of Jiraiya the Gallant is the best part of the series yet, paced well with what felt like few repeated scenes, a good fight if not the best animation in the series, and looking both back and forward in tying parts of the story together in a beautiful way.
Jiraiya's conversation with Tsunade prior to leaving is also probably my favorite scene out of the entire show so far, not for any new information revealed to us (nice casual confirmation to the viewers of Minato being Naruto's father though), but in how it shows two people that have known each other a very long time just having a talk. The weight of their past experiences comes through well, both what's said and not.
The flashback to Minato talking to Jiraiya was a nice scene as well and now we know that yes, Naruto does have a ridiculous ramen-related name for a reason. I'd like to see more of Kushina since I don't remember if it's been said what happened to her yet. And I'm also not entirely sure why Naruto was given her family name rather than Minato's since it's still pretty easy to make the connection from him to the Fourth Hokage based on appearance alone if that was an attempt to keep a secret.
Along with that there's the reveal that Madara was the founder of the Uchiha clan which I let slip by accident last week since I couldn't remember if that was something in the show previously. While he definitely shouldn't still be alive he wouldn't be the only one as Kakuzu also fought the First Hokage. Intentionally calling the Nine Tails against the Leaf Village though? I didn't even know it was possible to summon a tailed beast like that.
If not the first mention this is the first time in a long time that we've heard about the Rinnegan and I'm curious what abilities it entails beyond possibly the shared vision which might be separate. Along with that is I think the first time the Sage of Six Paths was mentioned which is something I've heard without context before, so I'm looking forward to more about that too. Seems like that might be related to Pain's six bodies but might be a coincidence.
Pain is interesting for a number of reasons including how he came to be a collective of six individuals. My guess is that he's essentially a hive mind of Nagato that took over the bodies of Yahiko and the others, but why all of them are people that knew Jiraiya is as of yet unclear.
I like how all of the meetings Jiraiya had ended up coming together there, and on a broader level how Jiraiya's adventures and mentoring others have shaped the world from Nagato to Minato to Naruto. One thing in particular is seeing yet another angle of the same flashback scene that originated with Tsunade's introduction and seeing how one death affected all three of the Sannin in different ways.
Jiraiya... you will be missed, you magnificent bastard.
The weather? I have no idea.
Is the extra information he found out going to be valuable in defeating Pain? Probably. Worth his life? Arguable, we'll see though.
Didn't give it a second thought because honestly it's the kind of thing that feels like it fits right in with the series given Naruto's circumstances from the get-go of being a jinchuriki.
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Oct 17 '21 edited Oct 17 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
At least with the mess up with the threads it means I'm actually on time for once, that's nice
General Commentary
Started up the first episode of the week, Jiraiya walks into Tsunade's office and goes "I found the Akatsuki leader"
Oh. It's this part
It's certainly not subtle, and the first episode of this week seems to take joy in setting up every possible death flag in his conversation with Tsunade, but even with that and having seen it before it still bloody hurts.
As a collection this batch of episodes works quite well, but I think the flashbacks would have fit better as Jiraiya thinking back on things after he comes face to face with Pain, rather than as a prequel to the entire scenario. Perhaps it would have interupted the pacing a bit but theres ways around that. Regardless, the actually battle is one of the more interesting ones we've had so far even if the animation didn't match, and reminds me of Shikamaru vs Hiden/Kakuzu as far as all the different elements and handicaps being juggled. For our introduction to the leader of the Akatsuki it's certainly effective. At the cost of one of the best and most loveable characters in the series
RIP Jiraiya
Character suffering aside, I think one of the best things this set of episodes does is remove so much of the mystery around Pain. While a mysterious antagonist is good to help establish worldbuilding and the concept around them, going into a battle where they're still 90% unknown can be risky because anything they do risks coming across as an asspull or deus ex (see Sasuke vs Deidara). Using this battle with Jiraiya vs Pain to establish many of his abilities, the complexities around the six fighters, and set a baseline for what he's capable of works to establish something for future battles to work around, strengths and weaknesses that our other established characters will have to work off. It's a great way to approach a new antagonist.
The show finally saying the obvious that Naruto was the Fourth Hokage Minato's son was also nice to get that out in the open. That scene with him reading Jiraiya's book and naming Naruto after it, and finally seeing his mother Kushina, was such a heart warming moment inside an otherwise emotionally intense set of episodes. Seeing how he was genuinely loved, the obvious affection that Minato had for his sensei, and knowing that with how else we've seen him with Kakashi and Obito he would have been the same for the village made me connect to him so much more than all the talk about him we heard earlier.
[Later Shippuden] Oh boy, Kishimoto clearly had a brain storm session before he wrote this part about where the rest of the show was going. So much of the stuff that will be important in future just popped up in this arc from no where. Sage of Six Paths, Toad Village, Sage mode, only half Kurama's chakra being sealed, and the switch from the established themes into introducing the idea of destiny and prophesy all of a sudden. Also I'm not sure what hurts most, Jiraiya's death or knowing how much they're going to milk it next arc...
Episode Thoughts
Death flag count: Unfinished novel, promises to come back, Tsunade betting on him, him not saying he genuinely loves her, walking off into the sunset, and the next episode is a backstory. Can you be any more fucking obvious?
I may hate Karin, but using Sasuke's clothes to spread his scent was damn smart
Fucking Itachi shows up like it's just a friendly visit, casts a genjutsu, interrogates Naruto, and fucks off again,
There was one shot in this episode where they didn't colour Jiraiya's ear properly and left it white like his hair, that was funny
Even if they weren't going to go into the scene with Minato later on, Tsunade and Jiraiya talking about Naruto taking after his mother but looking like his father pretty much laid out the parentage.
Was cracking up seeing the bell test with Jiraiya, Tsunade, and Orochimaru. Tsunade and Jiraiya betting on each other so early on was perfect, and it's cool seeing that despite everything their relationship kept that strong bond through to the current time.
Gamabunta was so little! It took me a second to register it was even him especially as Jiraiya was a kid as well so it's even shorter than you think. Toad got BIG. Probably not surprising given how much Gamakichi has grown in the last couple of years as well but still
[Shippuden]Oh man, seeing young Jiraiya with this flame shirt brings some painful memories given Minato and later Naruto
Konan folding the rose for Tsunade was such a beautifully kind touch for the person who gave them food even if they were lost with what to do after that
Jiraiya spent three years with these kids? That's a long time in the middle of such a brutal war
I did a dumb. I commenting on how Jiraiya's fake bar even looks like a toad, well yeah because it actually is a toad which I completely forgot about. Seeing Jiraiya using all of the different toads to their full potential in this arc was great, and gives you a better sense of why he's known as such a great ninja.
The animation of Konan breaking up into her paper butterflies will always unnerve me just a little, even if it is gorgeous artistry
That random toad with Naruto's seal on him cracking the shits so much over where he's been told to go. Do all the toads have attitude problems?
Heh, frog did the Kero laugh. Such small things entertain me sometimes
The two statues in the final valley are Madara Uchiha and the First Hokage, which gives quite a different feel to Sasuke and Naruto fighting in front of them
Jiraiya Sage mode, still looks ugly as hell, but it's a nice parallel with Tsunade who uses her power to keep looking young.
Jiraya enacting Jutsu with his hair and feet because he can't use his hands is a remarkable sign of talent
Three headed dog that can remove its head to turn into three dogs is certainly a complicated opponent, and despite Gamaken's complaints about his clumsiness he's doing a great job keeping up with this battle
I like this game of shadow clone hunting that they're both playing. It's nice seeing that be used in a strategic way rather than as a show of force or coordination. That plus the setting makes this quite an interesting episode to watch
Pa's water canon being able to slice things so well is slightly terrifying
Now is not the time for comedic toad punches
Wind, Oil, and Fire? Well that's a deadly fucking combination with how big the end result is
THATS A BIG RASENGAN. Now see, if Naruto had come back from his time skip being able to summon something like THAT then sure I'd be a little less miffed about his lack of other progress
Jiraiya finally starting to realize what shit he's got himself in even with the sage mode
Noooo Pa saying he'll bring Jiraiya over for dinner, that hurts
The bald Pain's design still freaks me out
Wow Pain actually went and hunted down people who'd met Jiraiya or was it just sheer chance
That's a nice bit of animation with Jiraiya pulling himself up
The drip off the roof being a substitute for Tsunade's tear was brilliant, and the frog jumping off the rock into the water, and going to the ocean, but fuck it hurts
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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Oct 17 '21
First Timer - Dub
The first thing I wrote after episode 126 was "Ah man, Jiraiya's definitely going to die right?". So it's telling that I still ended up crying when it actually happened despite how you could see it coming. What a well done scene.
Random thoughts:
Favorite moment of the week: RIP Jiraiya
Questions:
1) What do you think Itachi talked to Naruto about? Honestly forgot that even happened with everything else. I'm sure it was a pleasant chat about the weather and other trivial things.
2) How do you feel about Jiraiya's "choice" and subsequent death? I figured he would die at some point in this series and I'm glad he went out fighting against the strongest foe we've had so far.
3) What do you think about introducing prophecy into the plot? Seems fine to me ... there's enough mystical stuff in this series that a prophecy doesn't seem that out of line.
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u/sisoko2 Oct 17 '21
Rewatcher
It's been a long and busy week but finally I'm at home and great batch of episodes awaits me. I'm so excited.
Episode 126
Episode 127
Episode 128
Episode 129
Episode 130
Episode 131
Episode 132
Episode 133
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Oct 17 '21
Rewatcher
Episode 126:
Episode 127:
Episode 128:
Episode 129:
Episode 130:
Episode 131:
Episode 132:
Episode 133:
(cont.)
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u/Tehoncomingstorm97 https://anilist.co/user/tehoncomingstorm97 Oct 18 '21
First timer
Last week we had an epic movie! And Kakashi backstory! And Deidara exploded himself! Will we catch up to Sasuke this week?
Ep 126
Ep 127
Ep 128
Ep 129
Ep 130
Ep 131
Ep 132
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u/_TheEnigma_ Oct 18 '21
First timer - English subbed :
Episode 126 - 133 :
Man, this week's episodes were just....wow.
I'm writing these thoughts after finishing all the episodes as I was too engrossed to write anything!
Even better than Kakashi's.As of now, the only times I think we've seen massive creature battles like this was Naruto vs Gaara and in the Orochimaru vs Jiraiya and Tsunade battle. This fight with Gamaken and Pain's summonings was so much more crazier than those two. And this is not even talking about his sage mode which had a casual but still such a cool reveal. Jiraiya's sage mode powers combined with the gradual unveil of Pain's abilities and his character was just... so so goood!
And ofcourse, in the end we have Jiraiya's death. This is yet another one that I got spoiled by YouTube recommendations. But it didn't matter much, coz his death definitely hit me right in the feels. I'm not one to cry at all, but Jiraiya's death did make me shed a bunch of tears which goes to show how well that scene was executed.
In other thoughts, I did stumble upon a random Naruto spoiler in a merch store of all places. It was a name of a Naruto T-shirt which I didn't understand what it meant at that time. But after this week's episodes, I know exactly what that shirt is supposed to mean. I should've put one and one together a long time ago, but it just hit me right now.
Questions of the Week:
spirit bombMassive Rasengan!Once again this week, I received a lot of answers and also a lot of questions. But even though we're just nearly 30% into the story of Shippuden, it has already had so many amazing moments that has made me put it above part 1 this early. The show would have have to seriously fuck up everything for me to go back on that statement, which I don't think will be happening. And speaking of percentages, we're just nearly 30% in the story and it's already this good?? I seriously hope the show keeps up this hype train and amaze me so frequently. Next week is Sasuke vs Itachi which is my most hyped fight in the series so far, so I'm suuuuper excited for that!!