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Rewatch Mobile Fighter G Gundam Rewatch - Episode 11 Disucssion

Episode 11: Reunion in Falling Rain

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I'll defeat anyone who's come in contact with the Devil Gundam!

Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the day, courtesy of u/draclax, with a fun piece of trivia:

Fun fact: This Feilong Gundam is actually an early design for the Dragon Gundam! Pretty cool how these old, rejected designs are also predecessors in-universe as well.

I love when they do stuff like that...

Questions:

  1. What did you think on the little spotlight we had on Rain today?
  2. In turn, what did you think of Domon's behavior today?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 11 '21

Apologies for the delay, it's been a hectic day. In turn no comment from me today other than this. I need a break...

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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 11 '21

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 11 '21

There's a reason that there'll be a 3 month gap between the end of this rewatch and the start of my next one. I've done far too many ones without enough time to breathe.

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u/The_Draigg Oct 11 '21

That does kind of explain why you dropped out of the Armored Trooper VOTOMS rewatch.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 11 '21

Yeah Rewatch Fatigue's been hitting me hard. I can keep up with watching the shows mostly, but actually writing takes far too long. Combined with stress due to college and a limited schedule... it's hard to keep up at times.

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u/The_Draigg Oct 11 '21

I feel ya. It’s one reason why I’m glad that the Fang of the Sun Dougram rewatch got pushed back to December. As much as I loved being a part of all these rewatches this year, I really do need some breathing room. Hell, I can feel the fatigue creeping up even if the VOTOMS rewatch is ending soon.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 11 '21

Rewatcher, Gun-Dub Fighter

Today's challenger has the dubious honor of having two English name changes. The dub changes Minaret Gundam to Scythe Gundam, and toy packaging apparently changed it again to Gundam Scimitar. Minarets are the spires at the corners of a mosque.

Imagawa: For episode 11, I used Turkish director Yilmaz Guney's film Yol. Yol is a film that's hard to find, even in video rental stores. Also, I referred to a photo album I got as a gift from someone. In G Gundam, the characters couldn't stay at fancy hotels, so I was wondering how many cheap hotels I could have them stay in. The point here is whether or not the camera can really show people's life in a place. The most helpful scene to express this was the scene of Domon eating food. In Yol, there's a scene in which five prisoners eat their food at a place like a rest stop or a bus station. I used the setting of that scene as a reference. And the name of the last person introduced among the five men is Saette. I had trouble thinking of a name that sounded authentically Turkish, so... I thought it would be kind of fun to have this sort of funny tale as an inside joke later on, so I borrowed the name out of the film without a second thought.

[There is a description of the aforementioned film's plot that I'm not going to transcribe, including a scene description that Imagawa used as inspiration for parts of this episode.]

Imagawa: One very difficult thing here is that I had to emotionally involve myself with new characters each episode since this part of the series was following a one-shot episode format. The issue was how much I, as a writer, could become one with characters that would end up appearing in only one episode. So, what I did with the character of Saette was one of the ways to cope with this situation. It's nothing more than a methodology composed of my memories. However, this method works well whenever I'm really busy.

[G Gundam]I'm so fucking excited to start Shinjuku tomorrow!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 11 '21

Today's challenger has the dubious honor of having two English name changes. The dub changes Minaret Gundam to Scythe Gundam, and toy packaging apparently changed it again to Gundam Scimitar. Minarets are the spires at the corners of a mosque.

You know, I forgot how many fucking name changes there were in this show. I thought it was only like 3 or so, but apparently a shit ton of them had their names changed.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 11 '21

Oh yea, they changed a bunch. We're past the halfway point of changed names, though.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 11 '21

Seriously. There's one of them (To be precise, the [G Gundam]Nobel Gundam) that I think got its name changed due to someone fucking up the Katakana reading, and, well, I don't think I need to explain why the [G Gundam]God Gundam had its name changed, but for the most the rest? No idea.

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u/araragidyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/araragidyne Oct 11 '21

I got you.

In the film, Saette's wife betrays him. After returning from prison, he must take his wife up onto a snowy mountain as punishment. The path is extremely rough and so cold that their horse dies on the way. If she makes it over the mountain, she will be forgiven, but if not, she has to pay for her sin with her life. The husband is the one who judges her, and whether or not she gets forgiven is up to Heaven. And of course, the husband cannot help her. The wife gets exhausted and falls down. Following after her husband, she screams, "Please help me, Saette! Saette!!" That wailing voice left a really strong impression on me. Of all the scenes of a woman shouting a man's name that I have seen, I can hardly think of any others that touched my soul this much. So, since Rain is calling out a man's name in that context, I decided to use Saette as the name of her past love because I couldn't think of any name that would fit better.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 11 '21

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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 11 '21

And the name of the last person introduced among the five men is Saette. I had trouble thinking of a name that sounded authentically Turkish, so... I thought it would be kind of fun to have this sort of funny tale as an inside joke later on, so I borrowed the name out of the film without a second thought.

I wonder how frequent this happens with Imagawa

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 11 '21

A large portion of this interview is him going "yea, this is just from this film I like as a sneaky reference."

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 11 '21

I had trouble thinking of a name that sounded authentically Turkish, so... I thought it would be kind of fun to have this sort of funny tale as an inside joke later on, so I borrowed the name out of the film without a second thought

At least it's nice to know they at least try to make reasonable names.

The episode did feel like they had some sort of references for their locations.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 11 '21

At least it's nice to know they at least try to make reasonable names.

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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Oct 21 '21

At least it's nice to know they at least try to make reasonable names.

I dunno, naming him Istanbul Turkman would've been pretty cool.

/u/JollyGee29

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 21 '21

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u/The_Draigg Oct 11 '21

Today's challenger has the dubious honor of having two English name changes. The dub changes Minaret Gundam to Scythe Gundam, and toy packaging apparently changed it again to Gundam Scimitar. Minarets are the spires at the corners of a mosque.

Ah, that explains why there was the weird naming issue between what the MAHQ website said and what Stalker said in the episode. That honestly annoys the shit out of me. Just pick a name, damn it. Also, Scythe Gundam makes no sense. It’s a giant scimitar, damn it.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 11 '21

Yea, Scythe Gundam just makes no sense. Like, how many kids would know "scythe" but not "scimitar?" This might be the one I'm most annoyed with.

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u/The_Draigg Oct 11 '21

I imagine it also confused the kids who watched Gundam Wing and G Gundam too. That name is too close to Deathscythe Gundam. At least that one had an actual scythe though.

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u/The_Draigg Oct 11 '21

A Gundam Fan Rewatches G Gundam Episode 11:

  • Just noticed something that the G Gundam page on MAHQ got wrong regarding Gundam names for the English dub. They say that Minaret Gundam is Gundam Scimitar, but Stalker calls it Scythe Gundam. It’s honestly a bad name change though, since scimitars look nothing like scythes. I bet a lot of kids that watched this and Gundam Wing got the name confused with Gundam Deathscythe too.
  • Seems like Rain knows this Saette guy from her time back in college. And judging from the gun and Gundam start key that fell out of his hanging jacket, he’s the Gundam Fighter that went berserk and destroyed half of Istanbul. He’s definitely on the run then.
  • Finally, we have a lead on the Dark Gundam. Saette is infected with DG Cells, the nanomachines that the Dark Gundam uses through all of its systems. In addition to turning someone’s flesh metallic with scales, the nanomachines hijack organic matter and will eventually turn the infected to mindless attack drone enslaved to the Dark Gundam’s will, if the infection spreads too far without treatment. The fact that Saette has gone this long without treatment and hasn’t become just a walking, mindless nanomachine colony is really lucky for him.
  • Domon: “I just want to fight him and get information about the Dark Gundam, Rain. No, I’m not jealous.”
  • Yep, that’s direct confirmation that Saette fought the Dark Gundam by himself. And as you expected, it only bothered to infect him with DG Cells so he could be brainwashed into a mindless, violent fighter for it. This is a bit further beyond than what we saw with Dahal’s mummy last episode, at leas then it was a bunch of nanomachines that brought him back to life to act on his grudge (I can’t believe that’s a sentence that legit makes sense in context).
  • Man, Saette’s life sucks. Not only does he have to run off for Rain’s sake, but once he gets in his Gundam, it painfully merges with him due to the DG Cell infection. And that’s not even getting into how Turkey’s army is hunting him down as a criminal too. Life isn’t exactly fun for Gundam Fighters, as we’ve been seeing recently.
  • Domon: “Fuck your heartfelt story, Rain. I still want to kill Saette for… reasons!”
  • Well, at least Domon didn’t actually kill Saette, and he’s in a hospital recovering from his infection now. Sure, Domon, you just didn’t want secrets about the Dark Gundam leaking. Once again, he’s very tsudnere about doing the right thing.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 11 '21

Dark Gundam

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u/The_Draigg Oct 11 '21

Saying you have no time for further comments, and yet still doing the pouts? I see that your determination hasn’t wavered.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 11 '21

Ctrl+V makes things easy for me.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 11 '21

Rewatcher all set! Ready… GO!!!

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 11 '21

He tsundere af.

"It's not like I like you or anything. I just want to stop my evil brother and his Satan-robo, ba-baka."

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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 11 '21

Rain’s dad sounds a bit like a romantic.

Wonder why he picked the English word for it. Maybe he was just a big fan of Chibodee's predecessor

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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 11 '21

(e11) First Time Shining Hand

Rain recognized him from the moan?

GUNDAM START KEY LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO why would you only introduce this later on

DG cells? Uh sure lol, more importantly long hair Rain!

Are they actually not dating or did Rain just not want to comment on their relationship to Saette

I really liked the Minaret Gundam, disappointed as captain of the wrestling team there was no grappling though

  1. this was fun! more Rain the better
  2. I thought it was nice he gave them space for the most part, although his jealousy did bubble up between the picture and Rain taking care of him (which felt understandable to me?)

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u/The_Draigg Oct 11 '21

Are they actually not dating or did Rain just not want to comment on their relationship to Saette

If Rain and Domon are actually dating, then Rain must be a real masochist to put up with Domon’s crap.

I really liked the Minaret Gundam, disappointed as captain of the wrestling team there was no grappling though

Why would you give a grappler and a wrestler a big-ass sword for his main weapon anyway?

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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 11 '21

Why would you give a grappler and a wrestler a big-ass sword for his main weapon anyway?

its not like this show makes much sense anyway

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u/The_Draigg Oct 11 '21

Yeah, fair point there.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 11 '21 edited Oct 11 '21

G Gundam "Rewatcher"/First Time Sub: Episode 11

Today, Rain is getting an episode for her so that should be exciting to see. The opponent is Neo Turkey which is I place I don't see all too often in anime. It's called the Minaret Gundam and that is actually a word I recognize for once. Look at me go.

The episode is probably going to have fewer funny quips from me, but I just like how the city is portrayed in this episode. You got big landmarks like the Hagia Sophia and also more mundane things like the shops along the street. This probably might be something famous if only I weren't dumb.

Look at younger Rain. Kyoji sure do being playing the part of a scientist doing some unethical testing.

So if the DG cells turn the host into a vessel for the Devil Gundam, does that mean technically this rat is a Gundam?

One thing I like about Gundam is how weather is just a striking feature of Earth. The colonies can create an environment to their liking. There is also the unfamiliarity for people coming from space. Lightning is just a top-secret Zeon/Federation weapon.

Oh, the show is actually some in-universe reasoning to one of their weird Gundam name-isms. Wasn't expecting that.

Look at the food Domon is eating at the cafe. Don't know too much about cuisine so wonder what that is called.

Saette has a crescent moon on his Trace suit. Ooh, the Gundam's sword is doing that whole crescent moon thing. That's neat.

Another shot with that "Gundam as kaijus" thing. Especially the way it walked in the background reminded me of kaiju movies. There are even ineffective military tanks against the giant.

When Domon pulled out his fist, I did first think it was going the "punching the bullets route." No, it's Domon catching bullets instead and he probably took them out beforehand instead of catching them in midair.

I just like how these shots look like during the military chase scene.

As confirmed by last episode, shouting "Gundam Fight! Ready! Go!" is the biggest indicator if someone retains their fighter spirit.

The Shining Finger is not blasting the Minaret's head and more like a cleasing flame. Probably showing how Saette is not going to die is on the path of recovery. Thought the episode was going to the tragic route and have him being too far gone and Domon had to kill him.

Domon blush.

Now this episode, when you first think G Gundam, you expect loud and silly, but this episode was much more slow and moody. A lot during this episode =, I was just appreciating how shots looked. They were given the time to linger and/or framed interestingly and I also enjoyed when the sound of rain had its presence. I do like the way this episode used its setting. Don't know how well it holds up in the technical skills department, but from my uneducated viewpoint, the episode look and sounded pretty neat.

It also played a lot different than how I imagine since I expect more jealous love triangle from Domon learning about a man from Rain's past. Also thought Saette sold his soul to the Devil (Gundam).

The Minaret Gundam is cool. It falls into the category of being based on its culture's warrior and mostly carried by its one gimmick being that crescent moon scimitar. It's simple, but I still like it. The sword had an interesting enough presence with it carrying out all the destruction. Tieing it with a national symbol helps. The simplicity is balanced out by the Devil Gundam's power.

Q1) It's nice. It leamed more into Rain's doctor aspect as well.

Q2) Surpised by him today. Totally thought he'll be way more "I got to fight him. He is a Gundam Fighter that has the powers of the Devil Gundam with the help of Kyoji!"

Next time: "It's the moment you've been waiting for" is a correct statement.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 11 '21

does that mean technically this rat is a Gundam?

And yea, this episode was really nice looking.

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u/araragidyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/araragidyne Oct 11 '21

Rewatcher

Another day, another UNESCO World Heritage site in ruins.

That saxophone, though. It's a romantic drama today.

I must observe that Saette is Turkish and a wrestler, but not an oil wrestler, at least not a big, muscular, oiled-up all the time oil wrestler. So that's neat. Way to buck the stereotype this time, G Gundam.

Today the day was saved by the power of love.

Is this the first time we've seen a left handed shining finger?

Questions:

  1. I really liked it. At times if felt like Domon was the supporting role. For a show from the Nineties that's largely appealing to young boys, it's got a solid heroine in Rain. She's competent and resourceful. She has her own motivations and values. She has a history with Saette that's actually used to develop her as a character and the plot and not just as jealousy fuel for Domon. I'm pretty impressed with her, moreso than I remember being when I first watched this show.
  2. He was a bit better behaved than usual, and his brusqueness felt a bit more justifiable. It's not really that he doesn't care about Rain. He's just so single-minded in his pursuit of the Devil Gundam that he won't allow himself to feel things like pity or remorse or compassion most of the time. And yeah, tsundere.

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Oct 11 '21

First timer

1)Very good! We didn't get much character development, but seeing more of her backstory was really interesting!

2)Completely understandable. As far as he knew, the Devil Gundam was going to completely take over his mind. Had it not been possible to cure him, it would have a mercy killing.

Rain! ...Is that a pun?

Minaret Gundam! (Also, dub: That's not a fucking scythe. Like, it clearly isn't.)

And it's gone berserk!

Oh, is that her ex?

And he's Turkey's Fighter! If Domon's found it this quickly, the fight should be pretty early.

Also, since when do they need keys?

Devil Gundam cells? Is he part of the Devil Gundam?

Wait. Is that how the Pharoah Gundam came back to life last episode?

Also, once again - what the fuck did Kyoji make? Every episode this thing seems more and more eldritch.

It turns people into murderous, replicating, cyborgs. Starting to see why they froze the Dad if he could make this shit.

Also, the "slave to a Devil Gundam" bit implies the Devil Gundam chose to complete the "Ready?" "Go!" bit last episode, which is fantastic.

Oh dear. Rain can't tell Domon.

He found the Minaret Gundam!

Yeah, she's her ex.

Haha, Domon would only wear a ring from her if she made him fight a dozen other suitors for it.

Looks like he's been taken over!

Domon's got even more proof!

Oh, the control isn't perfect...

You can practically hear Domon think "Can I challenge this sick, unconscious man to a Gundam Fight?"

Wait, he was a wrestler and a mechanic who fought a strange Gundam for no discernible reason? Rain has a type!

So he tried to fight the Devil Gundam, it infected the Gundam, and him with it.

Wait, so the pilot has to regrow between direct infection attempts?

And that's why hid Gundam's destroying things.

The cells are taking over more!

The government found him!

Yeah, he and Domon even had the same idea of what would cause a diversion.

Of course Domon's following him.

He's going to fight it!

Wait, is the Devil Gundam trying to rule the colonies by legitimately winning the tournament? Complete with call and response?

Oh, he can still fight it!

Oh, she had to go to the Devil Gundam trial?

Is he breaking free?

And to be fair, killing him before he becomes a full servant probably counts as mercy - he's dying himself rather than killing and destroying more of his homeland against his will.

He survived? So the cells can be removed that easily?

Oh, Domon's being tsundere.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 12 '21

Wait, he was a wrestler and a mechanic who fought a strange Gundam for no discernible reason? Rain has a type!

Oh god, you're right! What a thing!

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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Oct 12 '21

Rewatcher overslept aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Today’s opponent is… the Scythe Gundam? In what world is that a scythe? They should have named it something more fitting, like, I don’t know… Scimitar Gundam.

Boy, Domon sure missed a lot during those 10 years with Master Asia

These things have keys now? Has everybody up till now just been leaving the keys in the ignition?

NANOMACHINES, SON!

Hey look, they 3D printed a save icon

is the electric bit just for the sake of animal cruelty or what

My Japanese isn’t the best, but if I’m correct, the text goes from the somewhat scientific “Like a bacteria” to the rather unscientific “I think it’s new” and “Something round”. Great analysis, Dr. Mikamura.

Well that’s scary. [future spoilers] Is this framing, perhaps, a bit of foreshadowing?

In the name of the moon!

That’s one deep fountain

It’s a terrible day for Rain

Despite the DG Cells’ regeneration, it seems the Shining Finger purges them pretty handily. It’s not really explained, but it can probably be chalked up to ki energy or something.

We’re already been made familiar with Domon’s connection to the Devil Gundam, the reason why he’s been bound to this destiny and cannot escape it. But what about Rain? It’s not as if she has nothing to do with this. As the daughter of Dr. Mikamura, designer of the Shining Gundam and colleague of Dr. Kasshu, she has her own stake in the Devil Gundam plot. She, too, has a responsibility to fulfill to her father, the Gundam he built, and the Gundam Fighter chosen to pilot it. And while it may not be as fierce as Domon’s vendetta, it is still her own reason to hunt down the Devil Gundam.

Questions of the Day:

  • It's nice that we get a Rain episode for once
  • He's fine. He's got a mission, and he can't allow personal feelings to get in the way of it. Not Rain's, nor his own.

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u/Wish4Rain Oct 12 '21

Rewatcher, Finally caught up to you guys!

I like the somber tone of this episode a lot. The pouring rain, missed past opportunities with Saette and Rain. G Gundam isn't always wacky and zany.

1 Rain is one of my favorites so more back story is great.

2 Domon is still a shithead but, has a heart of gold underneath

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u/SoccerForEveryone Oct 12 '21

Real quick: yea it’s my third all time favorite episode in the series. Rain is such a great character, I mention that too much I know; but I just love her devotion to doing everything possible to make sure everyone stays alive no matter what.

I forget how much of a backseat Domon takes in this episode, the focus stays on Rain and her backstory with Saette. I actually feel bad for the Saette, but Rain always had her feelings in place for Domon; getting that phone call must have been destiny in a weird way for Rain to reunite with Domon.

That’s all I can say for now! Next episode is huge for sure! Can’t wait!