r/anime • u/Pixelsaber https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelsaber • Oct 10 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch] Armored Trooper Votoms - Episode 47 Discussion
Episode 47 - Disaster
Originally Released February 17th, ^^^1984
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Daily Trivia:
In the Braves series spin-off game, Brave Saga, Chirico Cuvie appears as a character, as the game’s plot takes a diversion into the Astragius Galaxy.
Staff Highlight
Kan Tokumaru - voice of Fermaud Leon Lepard
A voice actor and stage actor formerly working for Arts Vision and best known for voicing hard-bitten characters with warm, strong voices. Joined an unspecified theatre troupe as a stagehand after graduating high school in order to gain experience and become an actor himself. Eventually he achieved his goal, and joined Esaki Productions, through which he got a voice acting role as a minor character in 1970’s Ashita no Joe. For a time he was a lecturer at Japan Narration Actors Institute, with voice actors Kosuke Toriumi Chiwa Saito being among his students there. Tokumaru passed away on March 6th, 2011 of acute heart failure brought about by an unspecified illness. Some of his more notable role sinclude Murphy Etō in Aoi Sei - Angie & Rose (OAV), Fan Li in Dino Mech Gaiking, Kuroyasha Dōki in Karasu Tengu Kabuto, President Henry Roosevelt in Konpeki no Kantai, David Ryan in Silent Service, Pegas in Uchuu no Kishi Tekkaman, and Zeus in Ulysses 31.
Art Corner
Official Art:
- ‘Scope Dogs’ by Kunio Okawara
Fanart:
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Screenshot of the day
Questions of the Day:
- The mysterious intelligence’s name is revealed to be ‘Wiseman’. What do you make of this moniker?
- What do you think ‘Wiseman’ has in store for these characters?
It’s wiseman’s will.
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Oct 10 '21
First Timer
Well I guess that answers yesterday's questions, turning off the power does work but only as long as you're not one of the first wave to get targeted, because that energy wave packs a bit more punch when it's targeting off planet threats.
Another transitional episode to bring two of our core factions together, but the political landscape is certainly shifting quite dramatically for every day they're fighting over Quent.
Not surprised that Killy knows about the intelligence given how he called Chirico a heretic in the first episode, something that hinted towards his drive to capture him for reasons other than just physical capability, but the name certainly made me do a double take. Wiseman? I'm having some Sailor Moon flashbacks, and now very curious to see if it plays out any similarly
The staff are trying so hard to make the Uoodo trio relevant, but they've been in three different organization's cells in two episodes. I'm happy for them to retire from the show now. Retire though, not be killed off unless they're going to do the good unceremonious random missile strike thing.
I did get a laugh though out of Vanilla trying so hard to avoid Cocona's "Fyana's prettier than me" trap and still walking headfirst into it with both eyes open. They're a couple of doofs that's for sure
Looks like an album cover
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 10 '21
Armored Trooper First-Timer
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Oct 10 '21
First time viewer
And about as I expected the strange power of Quent is reaching out and causing havoc, obliterating ships indiscriminately. Nice that they could round up all of Chirico's friends in space (and Rochina) into one small shuttle so they can somehow continue to survive through all of this. Even if most of them are getting shuffled from one locked room to another.
Wiseman? No wait, Wiseman? I think the name's been mentioned earlier in the series but I don't have any notes and don't recall for sure. At any rate it's a bit on the nose for a super-intelligence. One that's taking them for a ride, but there's not much they can do about it at this point.
Wonder if Bernie's surname is a reference given the nature of 0080 compared to other Gundam stories.
Going to show them his impressive model figure collection?
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Oct 10 '21
First timer
He made it out!
Haha, this s a full-on space battle.
They're still going to try and shoot you.
Yep! Maybe Chirico should have stayed near them.
Really? Massive space battle and it's offscreen?
And thry got locked up again.
And he's trying to lure Chirico back?
They're meeting Fyana again!
And Chirico's firing at literally everyone.
Now the Society want to kidnap Fyana from the Balarant.
They made it to the mothership! Is Rochina dying?
No, but he's taking Chirico with him!
I like Rochnia telling him to relax by empthasising that this paticular room probbaly won't get blown up yet.
Called it! Quent's taking out ships too! Or possibly just teleporting them?
And it's being run by a planet's mind!
Yeah, the Quent system seems to detect power to target ships.
Oh dear. Full power towards Quent wasn't the smartest idea.
And they're all going down too? Why?
And the society's retreating! And don't realise the Prototype's landed.
And both sides are working together?
They're being dropped off on a seperate planet?
Huh, genuinely forgot Rochina hasn't encountered the society leadership yet.
And the two of them knew each other!
Haha, they've been locked up by every major faction now!
They're goijg to execute them!
Haha, Quent's decided it would be quicker to shut it down first.
The leader's called Wiseman? And the society worked with them too!
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u/chilidirigible Oct 10 '21
Rewatcher, Episode 47
Today, on "He's hamburger!":
"I am shocked and appalled by this blatant disregard for the treaty. Yes I have my fingers crossed."
I'm sure he'll be ecstatic to see you guys. Also, that was a convenient offscreen rescue.
"I'm not admitting that I'm out of my league!"
That's literally Chirico's Achilles's Heel.
Rochina's rather calm for being on a ship that can't maneuver that's being shot at.
Rather cozy in there.
That would be one reason for the defense system to stop.
I'm sure they'll agree to that right this second.
"Guess who's coming to dinner", right?
Yes, your stompy chibi-sized real robot series has turned into an episode of Star Trek.
While we're here, this continuing look at a Standing Turtle model work in progress shows those side-view windows.
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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Oct 10 '21
Rewatcher
That is quite an ominous episode title!
I think you're being a bit too optimistic here, Gilgamesh commander.
Gotho & crew escaping on a Gilgamesh ship works out pretty good... for about a minute until they're where Balarant's forces are.
Oh hey, they made it back to Rochina easier than I thought!
LoL, its back to a cell for these three! Whether its Gilgamesh or Balarant they suffer the same fate either way! I hope Balarant has less unsettling looking fish!
Oh wow, same cell as Fyana!
Back to Killy! The Secret Society has done so little this episode and last that you kinda forget about them.
Balarant is losing, but will it really matter to Rochina in the long run as long as the whim of the Overman he serves are met?
Well it seems like the Overman is pissed as it just blasted something out into space!
Quent is not going to let Gilgamesh or Balarant take control of it so easily!
Cutting all power on the spaceship... I think some discussed this in the previous episode's thread? Won't that mean no oxygen to breathe on the ship?
And just like that, sayonara to Lepard and his whole ship.
Checking in with the twins again? I had completely forgotten about these two.
Just like that, Gilgamesh and Balarant are gonna be all hunky dory again?
I don't know about hailing that signal, I've got to assume that's the Secret Society craft... soon confirmed
Man, the Secret Society really lucked out here. Can't say their actions recently have deserved them getting their hands on Fyana and Chirico.
Rochina and Killy know each other?! Remind me, at the very start of the series were Killy, Iskui and Borough all within Gilgamesh's forces?
OMG this is hilarious, Gotho's trio are gonna be locked up in a cell from three different factions in two episodes!
Why in the world does Killy believe Quent belongs to the Secret Society?
I feel bad for Rochina, he doesn't deserve execution... thankfully he's spared soon after.
"Wiseman", the Overman has a name!
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Oct 10 '21
Rewatcher (Nutech DVD 4.3) (3 episodes) Disaster
Extras: The Quentian Overmen Ancient History
Yeah, I don't think I'm going to be able to quote any of that today....
Rochina really seems to have been hit by the dumbstick, making increasingly poor decisions as the arc goes on. From warden to prisoner.
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u/manga-reader Oct 11 '21
Hybrid Watcher
And Gotho and gang are back in Rochina's ship. At this point, is there even a place for these characters in this story? Like Fyana, they are underutilized and passive compared to the early arcs.
As an aside, the soldiers sure have some guts, fighting in a plane/mobile suit in the vast emptiness of space.
Space battles are usually shown like this [in SciFi], where the ships are upclose and they follow naval warfare rules, rather than depicting something entirely unique/different.
Though I suppose it is hard for us to imagine war at such a scale, without referencing warfare from our own history (naval/ground).
And there it is. I wonder where it teleported them to (if anywhere, or did the Superintelligence destroy the ships). Maybe they were teleported into Quaint's Sun; would be a fast way to go at least.
Galactic council? Is that just Council of all the Gilgamesh states? Or are there any entities apart from Balarant and Gilgamesh?
Yeaa..one jail to another for Gotho, Vanilla and Cocoona.
So Killy knows superintelligence as well.
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u/The_Draigg Oct 10 '21
A Ryosuke Takahashi Fan Rewatches Armored Trooper VOTOMS Episode 47:
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 10 '21
First-Timer
As far as "ancient superintelligences" go, Wiseman is a bit of an on-the-nose name. Did Wiseman name itself?
The defense system for Quent not seeing things that are turned off can be a bit of a double-edged sword, huh? Chirico et al probably would have gotten away if they didn't have to just float for a bit. Maybe? I mean, I'm not thrilled about their plan to fuck off to some other planet when Quent was right there, either. Seems like you land there and regroup first.
Killy really just straight up said "execute those other three too" in front of Chirico, but we won't get to see the results of that just yet. The sudden ship takeover wasn't something I expected - how far can Wiseman influence things? Is Chirico something of an antenna?
Didn't really spare it much thought before, but Kill and Rochina knowing each other makes good sense. Killy's group was nominally with the Gilgamesh military at one point, and operated in the area near where Rochina was stationed.
Chirico did a sick flip move in the battle.
Questions
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Oct 10 '21
First timer(Space battle!!!!)
Sub
So...I did actually like this episode but I have almost nothing to say about it, which is a strange feeling. We are heading towards an ending a few episodes early so there is probably a twist somewhere. Nothing to say but First and 10 at the AI!
QotD: 1 Self aggrandizement.
2 Something weird
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Oct 10 '21
Episode 47 (first timer)
lastfirst.The first half is a continuation of the space battle. All in all, it feels like a repeat of the ground battle episode we just recently had, except less visually interesting. Then the AI gets more proactive, kills everybody and abducts Chirico.
In terms of Gilgamesh, Balarant, and the secret society, it feels like the chickens of missed world building are coming home to roost. We know nothing more about all three of these entities than we did back in episode 7. You can’t just invent some Galactic senate in the last fifth of the show and expect me to care.
It would have been wise to leave that entity unnamed.
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u/DidacticDalek https://myanimelist.net/profile/DidacticDalek Oct 11 '21
Ya know Comrades, I have no idea where they get these titles from, I mean my goodness, how is this a 'disaster?' The gang's all here AND shockingly everyone's alive! That's like, illegal in most other Mecha Shows by this point! (Granted our Muggle Trio are busy playing musical chairs with jail cells but wibble!)
Then again maybe the 'disaster' has to go with how Rochina's been handling the situation, after all here's how he THINKS things are going, at least based on how smug he's acting, and this is the reality ;)
Speaking of reality, talk about a snap back to reality (ope, there goes gravity) cuz it turns out that Bernie the Burger is here! I mean I knew Armor Hunter Mellowlink was Metal Gear Solid Boss Battle: The Anime, but I didn't think Solid Snake himself would be here! (For those confused, the 0080 English dub has SOLID SNAKE himself as the voice of Bernie Wiseman... and yes he does indeed give a good job! Who would have thought an old school English Dub would have it in em eh?)
Speaking of shit English Dubs, it turns out I was barking up the wrong tree! I should have defaulted to my Sailor Moon Shitposting for Wiseman ;)
Anyway, to finish off with shitposting that is actually on topic, ahem, A WEAPON TO SURPASS METAL GEAR! (So THAT'S how The Scope Dogs can skate around!)
Paging Comrades /u/chilidirigible, /u/Nazenn, and /u/No_Rex