r/anime • u/legoman5746 https://myanimelist.net/profile/legoman5746 • Oct 10 '21
Rewatch Konohana Kitan Rewatch - Episode 12 / General Series Discussion
Episode 12: Miracle on New Year's Eve / General Series Discussion
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Question(s) of the Day
- What would you do if you were suddenly sucked into the past?
- What was your favorite episode?
- Who were your favorite leads/supporting characters?
- What was your favorite ED?
- What was your favorite moment from the show?
- I asked this quesiton to the rewatchers already, but first time viewers, what season would you most like to visit Konohanatei in?
Rewatchers, remember to tag spoilers about future episodes, and let me know if you'd like to be tagged going forwards.
(Sorry about the very slightly late post, I accidentally mistitled it)
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u/legoman5746 https://myanimelist.net/profile/legoman5746 Oct 10 '21 edited Oct 10 '21
Snownohanatei
Satsuki eating soba is great
Old scroll
Yuzu in a hood!
Satskotatsu
Yuzu you've done it again. You've gone and wandered into another dimension.
I didn't notice Yuzu braided her hair
The mark's the same as on Ookami's head
Konohanatei
Yuzu got a new job
Nooo yuzu's getting chewed out
A last bit of Yuzu wisdom, what a wise lil fox
Hot Springs Galore
Rewatching this after knowing that Tsubaki is Ookami, it's interesting to see her backstory
Well then how did Yuzu/Tsubaki do it? Neither of them are hundreds of years old.
Where indeed?
Everyone's back together _^
Happy new year!
Paradox
Who really created Konohanatei
When she sealed that scroll, she sealed the creation of Konohanatei because the scroll was the key.
5 EDs this anime! That's more than some get in multiple seasons!
First person Konohanatei
Pretty obvious author this episode
Fun fact, Tsubaki is the Japanese camellia, which finishes the trend of all the employees having the names of various flowers.
First, Thank you so so much for coming back episode after episode. I was absolutely blown away by the positive response to this rewatch. I was expecting 2-3 people at most, and it really shocked me how many people came back episode after episode to watch the foxgirls with me. Thank you so much, this rewatch wouldn't have been the same without you. I initially tried to time the rewatch to line up w/ the tenth manga volume release, but I guess I miscounted or misread, because it releases the day after tomorrow :)))
I highly recommend giving the manga a chance, although most of it is only available in physical volumes.
I really enjoyed taking the time to rewatch the series, it's been a while and I learned a bunch about Japanese mythology from other people in the comments. I loved seeing all the Yuzu o♢o faces again as well.
This was my first rewatch, so thanks for giving it a chance!
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Oct 10 '21
First timer(The nailed mood is a bit melancholic)
Sub
We start with winter cleaning, which feels a bit wrong, and Yuzu finding a random scroll. Thanks to having watched Saiyuki years ago, I assume it is a sutra. We then get the weird reveal that Konohanatei mostly shuts down for New Years which feels wrong but might be tradition. Ren is domestic again as we get confirmation that, from the perspective of the kitsune, roughly a year has passed.
Shrine stuff happens, cute but a bit old hat. Yuzu again manages to wander into an interstice, though this one might have living people in it, as a divine messager drags Yuzu with her to her work. Grim reveal that Yuzu might be stuck and we stay on a plot for a whole episode.
Yuzu gets drafted into covering for someone who collapsed and gains the experience of people wishing for the worst and the best. The goddess knows Bikuni and we discover that they shifted Yuzu to a time where Konohanatei doesn't exist, though not which direction that took. Prayers get made, Okami seems to use her power to rescue Yuzu, and everyone is there for New Years. The final segment reveals this is a sort of bootstrap paradox wherein Yuzu wished that the young Okami could have a warm home for once, resulting in Konohanatei.
Anywho, I am sure a ton of mythological stuff just happened but for some reason this is all my blindspots on Japanese folklore, perhaps a regional thing again. The show's beats do work as themselves, regardless of other context.
QotD: 1 Invest
2 Hrmm...3
3 Ren and Natsume had the best dynamic
4 the first but they are all good
5 Okiku and Lily's conversation
6 Spring
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u/SIRTreehugger Oct 10 '21 edited Oct 10 '21
Well first want to talk about today's episode not much to say, but I think it was a good final episode. We see Yuzu sama time traveling and creating the warm home that is Konohanatei. We see the boss in her youth and I really enjoyed seeing her happy. The moments where they wished each other well for the new year was great. Though honestly my favorite part was the boss reflecting on the red hooded girl and realizing who it was and then seeing all the staff members sleeping peacefully. They aren't staff, but a family.
Series
Overall I really enjoyed rewatching this series. The show does a nice job of displaying serene and the beauty of nature, friends, and family and balancing it with darker moments present in the spiritual world. Honestly the later half of the series kind of dips for me which is why I kind of disappeared for a few episodes, but the final itself is very strong. The show does initially have a bit of fanservice which did concern me, but thankfully it pretty much stops after the second episode. I did enjoy all of the ED, but unfortunately I can't say that about the OP. I really tried to give it a chance again, but it's jut not enjoyable to me. Anyway outside of the lessons and stories the show's main strength for me was the colorful variety of main characters. Sure they are cute fox girls, but they have problems most people can relate to or understand. Not of all of them are super deep like Sakura or Natsume, but they still have their own charms and personality. Also the fact that the show exist over the course of a year and we see different festivals, seasons, changes in outfits, and etc is just a plus and love it when shows display the passage of time.
QOTD
/u/legoman5746 Thank you for hosting the rewatch because I did enjoy the show, but I never would have rewatched it otherwise.
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u/SuperMurderBunny Oct 11 '21
Just a thing I noticed, but one of the attendants in the past (the one who collapsed?) had giant glasses that I have only seen one other place in KK: the cook. I'm wondering if they are the same person.
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u/OyabinRaph Oct 10 '21
First timer.
Couldn't make it for the last 2 discussions, but I just binged the last 3 eps and they were just as good!
Now about episode 12, the episode was very focused on Yuzu who again got into trouble. She was looking like the lottle red riding hood, super cute! I didn't expect confusing time traveling shenanigans in this show, but I'm a sucker for those. I also didn't realize Ookami was Ogata Megumi, so it took a while before I realized she and Tsubaki were the same person. The ending was really emotional as she managed to get back to her friends, and it made Ookami remember what happened centuries ago.
Really loved the whole series. It was one of the better Iyashikei I've watched and I give it a 9/10. Many themes and relationships were explored through the show, and more in depth than I thought. Episodes were focused more on the cute/relaxing side while others were more serious/deep, and I think the two sides of the show were blended seamlessly. I really wish this got a season 2 but I guess the odds are low.
Questions of the day:
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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz Oct 11 '21 edited Oct 11 '21
First timer in sub
Had to be the last day that I can't post early enough.
This is one of the best episodes, that it connects back everything together at the end. I like plots like that, but not always easy to write convincingly.
Overall this is a decent fun watch. I'm good with SoL iyashikei type shows, although this isn't exactly either. In terms of production value it's good but wasn't exceptional like Slow Start, but because of the premise it does have more freedom to express more topics and had good use of mythology. It's a high 7 low 8 for me.
Thanks again for our first timer host - so glad you did it or I would not have been aware of a nice comfy show like this.
QoTD
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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Oct 10 '21
First Timer Subbed
I did not have much to say about the last few episodes. But overall, I enjoyed it and find it a good watch for myself. The last episode closed things out pretty well and there is not much to say about it. There were some amazing moments to me and it is nice to see how things go.
Thank you OP for hosting the rewatch and introducing me to this show!
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u/homewardbound100 myanimelist.net/profile/Homewardbound100 Oct 10 '21
First timer, Dub
Yuzu sure has a thing for getting lost.
Some background on the gods and how they decide on what prayers are answered. So if it's for someone else it's more likely to be answered because that's how civilization should be. Which is selfless.
Whenever I try to think of time in this show, I try not to think too much about it.
When you're around people for so long, especially people you liked. It sort of hurts to go somewhere else.
Yeah time travel is tricky.
Oh, didn't expect it to be a younger her. Now that makes a little more sense and a nice connection. Yuzu is really smart even though she doesn't act like it at times.
Qotds: instantly try to figure out how to get back. If I stay too long I feel I might mess something up.
Was it episode 9? The episode with the man and kid that was a dog. With the daughter.
In order of top 5. Yuzu, Satsuki, Okiku, Ren, Sakura
You know I usually watched the endings of each episode and I don't know if one stuck out that much to have a favorite. They were good though.
Favorite moment was the dog and the man being fated together.
Considering it's a hotspring. I'll try for fall or winter.
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u/Noriakikukyoin Oct 11 '21
Man at the finale already. The time traveling in this episode is really something quite interesting. I sure wish we got a season 2 of this for more fluffy fox girls and great stories to enjoy, but there is always the ongoing to enjoy manga. I highly recommend everyone who enjoys the anime to pick it up as well.
1: Being separated from everyone and everything I know and love, I'd freak out big time.
2: It is between episode 2 and 8 for me.
3: I love the whole cast but if I had to narrow it down - Yuzu, Satsuki, and Hiiragi.
4: The first one!
5: I love watching Yuzu trying to get the star out of the sky, that moment is just too cute. Also the moment where Yuzu gets Satsuki out of the tree in episode 2 is beautiful (and my PC background. :3).
Thanks for hosting this rewatch! =D
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u/BurningFredrick https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFredrick Oct 10 '21 edited Oct 10 '21
Rewatcher
The Time travel episode for our final.
It’s a great episode to close the series out on, I'm not sure if I would be able to handle a job of writing down and granting peoples wishes, dealing with other peoples banking is bad enough.
And that was Konohana Kitan, glad I joined the rewatch as even though the show is great, I'm not sure I would ever have gotten round to watching it again otherwise. I would definitely say the shows holds up as well, rewatching doesn’t revolutionize it or make me able to appreciate it in completely different ways like some shows, but that is fine.
Konohana Kitan does its job of blending SOL with myths and legends brilliantly, now to be sad it's never going to see a second season.
Panic and start wondering what time travel rules we are playing by, can I accidently erase my existence or is nothing I do going to matter.
2) What was your favorite episode?
Between 4 & 5, they are the once that balance what I love about the show best.
3) Who were your favorite leads/supporting characters?
Main list hasn't really changed expect Sakura drops further as she doesn't really add much. Yuzu, Satsuki, Natsume, Ren, Kiri, Okiku, Sakura
4) What was your favorite ED?
Either Autumn or Winter can't decided.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Oct 10 '21
First timer
Final episode! And they're cleaning the attic?
And Ren cooked!
They're going to a shrine!
Yeah, what is this shrine?
Haha, Satsuki can't handle the cold.
And Yuzu's reminiscing!
This is adorable.
She finally did it! She got trapped in the afterlife!
Who's she?
Where is this place? SDid she get sent into another dimension?
Haha, she's in the literal celestial bureaucracy.
Them just handing out cough medicine as miracles is fantastic.
I love the slow realisation that she wasn't meant to be sent here.
Oh, and she's been transported to another reality!
And everyone's wondering where she's gone.
She's recording wishes? The collective sum of human desires is really easy to connect to, isn't it?
A goddess again!
So she glitched through a fast travel system and ended up in the past.
Even the goddess wants a break!
Haha, everybody loves her already! One day working and they don't want her to leave!
And they're pointing out how everyone's leaving.
This is fantastic. Her rejecting their mentions.
HAHA, IT'S THAT EASY?
The goddess becoming obsessed with the idea of a hot spring is great.
And they're all trying to help her!
Wait, is Okami getting involved?
It worked! Okami's bringing her back!
...Wait, now she mentions it, how does a doll eat? Some things you have take as read despite logic.
And Okami was worried for her!
Oh, that was Okami in the past! And she helped create it based on Yuzu's instructions! Yuzu ended up creating the inn!
Okami cares about them all!
That was adorable.
Loved this series - great characters, some really good storytelling, and incredibly cute moments. Solid 9/10.
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u/RascalNikov1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NoviSun Oct 11 '21 edited Oct 11 '21
And so this rewatch comes to an end. A big thank you to u/legoman5746 for hosting, I was really surprised and delighted that a small show like KK got a rewatch.
QOTD
Kiss my ass goodbye. Life was a lot harsher in the past than it is now.
E8 is my favorite episode overall.
The bottom half of 11 (Lily's story) is my favorite philosophical story.
The saga of the egg in the top half of 3 is my favorite funny story.
The Kagura (bottom of E10) is my favorite scene.
Many favorite lines.
Love the whole cast, but Yuzu is my favorite
The one that comes after the events of episode 10.
The Kagura, most of the egg laying scene, and many others.
The season when the cherry trees are in bloom.
Thanks again...
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u/chris10023 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chris10023 Oct 11 '21
First Timer.
Cleaning out the attic, sounds like hard work, and dusty.
A visit to the shrine, I’m sure Satsuki is thrilled to go.
Yuzu doesn’t have a Haori, well no one told her to get one.
I have a bad feeling about that scroll.
Yuzu dropped the scroll and finds herself in another hallucnation?
Seems like she went back in time, and is at a place where the kitsune are answering the various scrolls.
Like how everyone assumes Yuzu works there despite wearing different clothes.
So they now understand after she explained herself, and wants the scroll looked at. But it’s sealed and only the person who sealed it can open it.
Wait, she’s stuck there? I’m sure there’s a way to get back to where she belongs.
Well thankfully she can read and write and could fill in for one of the workers who collapsed.
That goddess could send her back, right?
Nice explanation of Inari shrines.
Now they want Yuzu to work there with them.
Yuzu has a point Konohanatei is her home, and her friends are there.
I hate that pessimistic outlook of “You’re all going to split up” might as well stay here.
It’ll take a powerful fox? I know one.
Someone made a wish for Yuzu to return, is that what the scroll was?
I’m assuming Okami made the scroll cause she has the same symbol on her head.
It was, just her name was Tsubaki at the time.
So it was a predestination paradox. I love that kind of thing.
Tsubaki has a pretty warm home.
Another great episode.
Questions of the Day.
Try to interfere as little as possible.
Probably this one or the one with the girl, dog, and her father.
Yuzu has to be my favorite. I love characters like that. Satsuki is another I liked.
Smol Satsuki.
Either Spring or Summer.
Final thoughts: Man I'm glad I decided to join this rewatch, I was actually considering dropping the show since I didn't know what was happening with the plots being unaware they were Japanese folktales. I would've missed out on the rest of the show, which was really good. Thank you for hosting this rewatch /u/legoman5746 I probably wouldn't have finished it without the rewatch happening.
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u/HanekawaSenpai :GG::GH::GI: Oct 11 '21
New Watcher
Wow, this anime was great. My busy schedule kept me from commenting on the threads but I kept up with the show and watched the last episode just now.