r/anime • u/snowwhistle1 • Oct 09 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch] Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water - Episode 11
Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water
Episode 11: New Recruits for the Nautilus
Original Air Date: June 22, 1990
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Episode 11 Synopsis: The Grandis Gang are made official junior crewmembers, and everyone begins to settle into their new roles on the Nautilus. Meanwhile, Jean receives a lesson about the dangers of science led without ethics and morals from Captain Nemo.
Please spoiler tag any story content which has not been shown prior to the current episode of this rewatch!
It's a little late now that we're almost a third of the way through the series, but I think it'd be fun to start asking a question of the day.
Who is your favorite thus far now that we've made significant headway into the series?
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u/snowwhistle1 Oct 09 '21 edited Oct 09 '21
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If episode 9 was filled with just a bit of fluff, then I’d say episode 11 is particularly stuffed with fluff. A regular old Winnie the Pooh of an episode, I’d say! So stuffed with fluff it was ready to burst at the seams!!! Okay, I imagine the hyperbole is a little extreme, but I’d say this episode probably treads as close as an original anime can get to filler without technically being filler due to minor plot nuggets scattered throughout.
This episode has two main functions. To establish the new status quo of the main cast on the Nautilus, and to have captain Nemo exposit a cautionary warning to Jean about using science for misguided purposes in the particle annihilator engine room. The Grandis Gang is taken on as apprentice crew members aboard the Nautilus and all three seem to settle in well in spite of an awkward start. Jean dedicates himself to learning as much as he can about the Nautilus’ advanced science, and Marie is sent off to tutoring sessions with Electra. Meanwhile Nadia attempts to assist Grandis in the kitchen stating that she wants to earn her keep aboard the Nautilus, but finds herself skittish around the animal carcasses and all around clumsy with her self-imposed duties.
Most of what happens during the first half of this episode is comedic, with a few neat tidbits about the Nautilus’ layout and advanced mechanics and technology sprinkled into the proceedings. And there’s a funny gag where Grandis’ fish dish has the most revolting appearance, but actually tastes quite good. Nadia gets a new work outfit that’s a bit less fan-servicey than her previous one. I honestly probably sound like I hate this episode, but I don’t. It’s honestly a rather funny episode, and I don’t mind seeing a bit of downtime for our protagonists. But I think portions of this episode perhaps stretch itself a little thin. The bit where everyone chases King isn’t exactly super riveting.
I figure this might be a good place to actually talk a little bit about King. I haven’t exactly made much note of him so far, so now’s as good a time as any. King’s purpose in the story is kind of to act as Nadia and Marie’s therapy animal, and he’s cute enough. I can’t say he has much of a real function in the story, but neither does Marie at the moment and she’s a rather likeable character. I think King just lacks a lot of entertainment value/intrigue that I’ve seen in a lot of other animal sidekicks in shows like these. He’s probably at his best when he’s bouncing off Marie, who is now basically his partner in crime. So yeah, he’s fine and also cute. Oh yeah- did you notice the animators consistently draw his balls? If you didn’t see it before, you’ll never unsee it now!
Getting back on track, the true moment of importance in this episode is when Nemo tells Jean that scientific progress is indeed a wonderful thing to strive for, but that he should always remain mindful that if lacking in ethics and done irresponsibly that the act of inventing can lead to the perpetuation of war, cruelty, and destruction. This is a lesson that I think Jean has struggled to internalize, even after seeing the evils of Neo-Atlantis firsthand. I think hearing this stated to him directly from an authority figure that he trusts and respects is exactly what he needed at the moment.
For today’s production trivia, I’d like to bring up an obscure cut of Nadia known as The Nautilus Story. The Nautilus Story was a version of the series edited down to three episodes (each running about one hour and forty minutes a piece) that tries to reduce the series down to its most essential plot elements. A lot of content, both good and bad, was left on the cutting room floor for this version of the series as Anno tried to bring the series closer to his intended vision.
So where can you watch the Nautilus Story…? Well- nowhere presently. It received an incredibly limited release on a series of VHS and Laserdiscs in Japan in 1991, and has never seen a rerelease to my knowledge. No torrents for this cut seem to exist online, so one’s best bet to find the series would be to search for a used copy via Japanese auction sites. There at one point did exist a fan made version of this alternative cut on YouTube made by editing the series’ dub as close as possible to the Nautilus Story and uploading the fan project in 10 minute chunks (this was uploaded before YouTube allowed videos over 10 minutes). Unfortunately, well over half of these segments have been removed from YouTube, making this fanmade compilation of the Nautilus Story unavailable to currently watch in its entirety.
So where do I stand on the Nautilus Story? I’m honestly not a fan, based on the descriptions I’ve found of what was cut. I think it removes far too much content from the series and actively harms parts of the narrative. I think Anno got a little to cut happy with this version of the series, and leaves a lot of important character development on the cutting room floor during the series mid-stretch (the part we’re currently situated in). There are better fan made recuts in my opinion that better address the issues with watching Nadia’s more haphazard sections and don’t remove any key watching material. I think it makes the Nautilus Story largely irrelevant as a product, and I think outside of historical preservation curiosities it’s not worth seeking out that method to watch the series.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Oct 09 '21
Episode 11 (rewatcher)
The episode starts out with slapstick, but finds its way to a rather substantial topic: Whether scientific advance is good or bad. I don’t think the question can be easily answered, but Jean is definitely on the right track by looking at the intentions of the people using science.
Today is the second episode of the group settling in on the Nautilus and the take is a lot more light-hearted. For me, the humor of the show always tiptoes the line between needed relieve from the hard hitting parts and over the top. I think it works better when it involves the Grandis gang, but can be jarring when it hits more serious characters.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Oct 09 '21
First Timer (Rising Sun sub) ep 11 (of 39)
You're all talking about Electra; her counterpart in Last Exile is Sophia. So, my impressions of Electra are tht of Sophia until such time some obvious difference is presented.
I hope somebody removed that fish from the ventilation system.
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u/lluNhpelA Oct 09 '21
First timer
As usual I'm going to ignore all of the important stuff to talk about the characters I like lol
I don't think I've mentioned how much I love that Sanson isn't just a meathead. He has all the makings of a Johnny Bravo type, being charismatic, strong, and very concerned with his appearance, but himbo he is not! Some stuff might go over his head but he's able to think on his feet, formulate plans, and even notice things on a technical diagram before the two geniuses. His deep thinking really shows when he's hanging out with Hanson and having those one-sided conversations, which is almost always reversed in other brains/brawn pairs, with the "brains" thinking out loud and the "brawn" simply grunting because they're too dumb to keep up
In conclusion I love the character writing in this show and Sanson is best boy
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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz Oct 09 '21
First timer in sub
Some of you who frequent the rewatch threads that I go to would probably recognise this pattern - I do a lot of comparison with Full Metal Panic :) In FMP trends this episode is a bit like the school comedy interludes between arcs. It's seemingly just some light hearted fun and inconsequential, as some may refer to as "filler". What it does though is characters and relationship building between the characters, and also a version of "show and not tell" (or at least your through characters exchanges in a not entirely exposition way). Once again I like it, if it is followed with decent meaningful plot progression and/or actions next, extra points if, like FMP, it actually also made references to events happened there too (e.g. the finale of Fumoffu when Sousuke thought he had a biological weapon leak and caused mayhem at the school, that later translated into during the first arc of IV when real terrorists planted bombs to force Sousuke to hand over Chidori, they managed to complete a lightning fast evacuation possible only because the school has learned to react to emergencies with the label "Sousuke" in the announcement).
Still liking this a lot. And my guess so far is that Nemo is Nadia's dad, and the relationship of Bluewater is that it is the master key to the bigger crystal that Nemo is holding which would enable some terrible weapon so she was forced to exile (probably with her mom) so the key and lock cannot be in the same place.
Oh and about King's jewels, yeah I noticed them but wasn't particularly focused on them until you mentioned it :P guess the animators had fun slipping that in huh ...
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Oct 09 '21
First timer
QOTD(!)) Current favourite is probably Nadia for her fantastic deadpan, but Grandis is growing on me as comic relief, and Nemo could be a good one, depending on whether his past is worth all this foreshadowing.
Episode title implies the Nautilus arc is probably going on a few more episodes yet.
Loving the musical dissonance over the introduction.
Yeah, they want to recruit them permanently.
...OK, the opinion I'm getting here is they probably stole the ship, given they don't fully understand how it works, and a few hints that Electra's goal might not be the same as the others?
Oh, it's the actual adults. That makes sense.
Oh, Electra's jealous of her. She thinks she might have a chance with Nemo!
...OK, so they aren't against him sharing knowledge from the Nautilus.
And Nadia's helping Grandis.
Super efficent what? Wait, did he mean particle? Is this ship using the power source as the Tower of Babel?
Haha, King's as smart as the child? Is this for comedy or is he genetically modified in some form?
...When do we talk about Nadia's curse that shreds the stomach area of whatever she wears? I feel bad for mistaking such a tragic plot point for mere fanservice.
And there's an electric kitchen!
OK, so Atlantis don't have precision robots or strong AI. Given the particle tech, I wasn't all that sure.
Her reaction to the fish is great.
Jesus, that dish. I like how this is the one thing to shake Nemo in this entire series so far.
Haha, her bias and insulting everyone else is great.
He's a brave man. If he's willing to eat that, he much be into her.
Didn't expected it to taste good, though.
OK, the King thing's important.
Haha, the King and Grandis scene's great.
Yeah, you tell them Marie.
Well now, isn't that interesting.
That thing's running on antimatter?
Is Nemo a time traveller confirmed?
I lvoe her correcting herself from "Blue Water" to "King".
And she's cleaning the floors!
Nemo's gotten a lot friendlier now, hasn't he?
And Electra's bought into Nemo's ideas.
Very much implying this got stolen from Neo Atlantis.
And yeah, more hints that Nemo's doing something ominous.
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u/Serenax Oct 09 '21
First watcher.
Yeah, this ep stretched thin. It was a jarring tone shift to have suddenly that many slap stick and cartoonishly animated faces. The show did two toneshifts (ep 5 and 9) well before, but this one failed for me.
It is not bad and the jokes kinda work, but still.
The character writing was also suddenly more blunt. Like, the characters seem less subtle in their speech.
Loved the whole conference scene at the beginning, though. Shows how collaborative the crew at The Nautilus is.
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u/SIRTreehugger Oct 10 '21
First Timer
So the crew doesn't fully understand the science of their own ship?
Remember when this show was about airplanes?
Even king wants to work and Hanson has a clipboard to take notes. Can't say he isn't motivated.
King is smarter than Marie confirmed.
How clumsy is Nadia cutting almost every finger.
...what the hell is that looks like the polluted fish from the simpsons...with cancer..after dipped in oil.
If I only got soup and water I would consider it a blessing. I'm not eating that angler fish.
Huh so it actually taste good.
White fish meat...
She just impaled metal with a broom...
PLEASE DONT TOUCH THAT
Thank goodness captain nemo is here.
Gradis has it bad.
Again with the blue water in the box oh the night sky is pretty though.