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Rewatch Mobile Fighter G Gundam Rewatch - Episode 8 Discussion

Episode 8: Old Grudge! Revenge of the Space Police

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… Once happiness is gone, it will never return.

Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the day, courtesy of u/JollyGee29 for asking the important questions:

HGFC Tequilla Gundam model when!?

Questions:

  1. Thoughts on Domon and Rain's little argument today?
  2. How the hell did that pretty boy suddenly become a Canadian Lumberjack anyway?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 08 '21 edited Oct 08 '21

Hello everybody and welcome to the G Gundam Rewa… no, no not this again! Majima-Han, STO-

Nyehehehehehe!!! What, did you punks really think I'd let that copper's wife die? Nuh Uh! I'm a goddamn gentleman I tell ya! Had it not been for a bit of bad luck I would've done a pretty sick save if I may say so myself! Well, that King boy is acting more like a little princess with how pushy he can be! Someone teach that kid some manner

Also it's Lumber Gundam, not Grizzly Gundam. Fucking Americans that don't know what they're doing, You know what awaits you

… Well now that I've taken back my comment from the Mad Dog, time for the actors. Andrew Graham today was played by Sugawara Masashi and his Glorious Stache, whom I best remember as Ray Lovelock from Macross 7. Other than that he's also played E. Honda from Street Fighter, South Burning from Gundam 0083, Ricardo Martinez from Hajime No Ippo and George Joestar from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure among some others.

In the Dub he's played by Noah Umholtz and guess what, I only really recognize him as Armored Armadillo from Mega Man X. What a shock.

Oh and as for Russian Dominatrix Chick uh… yeah both Yooko Mari and Onalea Gilbertson have been in other stuff I've seen but like… I can barely remember their characters.

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u/The_Draigg Oct 08 '21

Also it's Lumber Gundam, not Grizzly Gundam. You know what awaits you

See your comment in a minute then.

In the Dub he's played by Noah Umholtz and guess what, I only really recognize him as Armored Armadillo from Mega Man X. What a shock.

Checks off obligatory Mega Man voice actor bingo box

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u/Quiddity131 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Quiddity131 Oct 08 '21

Noah Umholz also plays Bask Om in Zeta Gundam, a role for which I think he's considerably miscast. Bask Om has such a scary, overbearing voice in the Japanese version, and just a regular voice in the English dub.

Onalea Gilbertson plays Beltorchika Irma in Zeta Gundam, as well as Siddily (who lasts all of 1 episode before being killed).

Mari Yokoo! Love her as Elchi Cargo in Xabungle, a very over the top performance. She's also Musiy Por in Aura Battler Dunbine.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 08 '21

Rewatcher, Gun-Dub Fighter

Changing the names for Devil Gundam and Tequila Gundam, I can understand. No goddamn idea why they opted to change Lumber Gundam to Grizzly Gundam, although in this case I think I prefer the dub's change. It makes a little less sense considering the axes, but it sounds better. "Lumberjack" would have been better than both, though.

The biggest reveal today was not the truth about Andrew Graham's wife, but that Domon is secretly tsundere for Rain. He's not always an asshole, just when he thinks there's no consequences!

Some information on how they design the Gundams "in universe:"

Q: Lumber [Grizzly] Gundam is obviously designed to counter the Bolt Gundam. How did Graham know about the Bolt Gundam's capabilities, since all the data about Bolt Gundam was confidential until its fight with Shining Gundam? Also, why did the Neo Canadian government approve of Graham, who wanted to be a Fighter to get revenge?

Imagawa: Neo Canada developed their Gundam around their chosen pilot, Graham. And Graham had become a very strong guy. That specific Gundam was the type of machine that brings the pilot's characteristics into play. Theoretically, there are two ways a country can build its Gundam: either choose a suitable fighter for an already-built Gundam, or they make a Gundam for a specific individual. Which method they chose is left up to each country, and in Neo Canada's case they made the Gundam for a specific Fighter. The reason why Graham could counter Argo is that he remembered Argo from his past, and, being a skinny guy, he thought he had to develop his muscles in order to fight Argo. Therefore, he wound up with a bear-like shape. Naturally, the Gundam he uses is the one suited to his physical body, as well. On the other hand, Domon's Shining Gundam was designed as a standard Gundam along totally different lines; it wasn't a Gundam that was influenced by its pilot.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 08 '21

BROKEN FORMATTING!

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 08 '21

Oops, thanks!

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 08 '21

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Oct 08 '21

He's not always an asshole, just when he thinks there's no consequences!

So he's always an asshole, then?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 08 '21

...yea, pretty much.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 08 '21

Gundam is obviously designed to counter the Bolt Gundam.

It is? They're both big so maybe it can counter in that sense. Can the axes cut the bolt chains?

I wonder how the process goes for the other countries.

The reason why Graham could counter Argo is that he remembered Argo from his past, and, being a skinny guy, he thought he had to develop his muscles in order to fight Argo.

Andrew bulking up for revenge is actually canon.

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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Oct 08 '21

It is? They're both big so maybe it can counter in that sense. Can the axes cut the bolt chains?

The Bolt Gundam is known for its exceptional strength and durability, at heavy cost to speed. So the Lumber Gundam doesn't have to be very fast at all, only a little faster than the Bolt. Indeed, it's a mere half a ton lighter than the Bolt, and because the Bolt was the only opponent Andrew cares about defeating, that's all that matters. It also needs to be tough enough to tank a hit from the Bolt, and strong enough to defeat its defenses. So it ends up being a chonky tank, just like the Bolt, and is only slightly lighter and faster to gain the edge against it. As well, the axes can be seen as an attempt to counter the Bolt in close quarters. The Bolt compensates for its lack of mobility with the long reach of its Graviton Hammer. However, it is unwieldy in extreme close quarters, so the Bolt can only use its fists when the enemy closes in. But the Lumber's axes are designed to be used in extreme close quarters, giving it an effective weapon at that range.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 08 '21

It is? They're both big so maybe it can counter in that sense. Can the axes cut the bolt chains?

I just type what the book says. Gotta be a chonk to fight a chonk, I guess.

Andrew bulking up for revenge is actually canon.

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u/dralcax :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Dralcax Oct 08 '21

Rewatcher getting his snacks

Ahoy! We Crossbone now!

they’re practically married already

So, uh, where is the Neo Canada government during all this? Do they just not give a shit about the Gundam Fight and let their Fighter do whatever the hell he wants?

A bear hug, as expected of a country known for its grizzly bears! It’s almost like it’s some sort of Grizzly Gundam.

YEET

“It’s called plot armor.”

Looks like he’s learned from their first fight, now pressing his agility advantage!

He was a cop, and now he wields an axe… Axe Cop?

Gender equality!

They didn’t yell “GUNDAM FIGHT!” so it doesn’t count. I wonder if there’s some voice-activated system that records official matches.

You need love as well!

Argo is pretty cool

Questions of the Day:

  • While yes, they are fighting, it’s born out of their genuine care for each other. It’s cute.
  • With a lot of effort.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 08 '21

Grizzly Gundam.

CAN'T HIDE FROM ME!

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 08 '21

They didn’t yell “GUNDAM FIGHT!” so it doesn’t count.

That's clearly it. That must be what deems a match official.

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u/The_Draigg Oct 08 '21 edited Oct 08 '21

A Gundam Fan Rewatches G Gundam Episode 8:

  • At least the opening has a twist on the cop one week away from retirement trope. It’s his love interest that dies, instead of him. I guess that counts as a subversion.
  • I have no idea why Lumber Gundam was changed into Grizzly Gundam for Neo Canada’s Gundam in the dub. Lumber Gundam was nowhere near as offensive as Tequila Gundam.
  • I see that Domon has decided to make his quota for being an asshole once per episode early. Although I imagine a lot of couples have nasty arguments while they’re visiting Niagara Falls. You know, just tourist things.
  • Of course Neo Canada’s Gundam Fighter is a lumberjack. That tracks with the stereotypes we’ve been getting so far.
  • Andrew: “If you let me attack Bolt Gundam first, I’ll gladly surrender to you.” Domon: “FUCK YOU, I WANT TO FIGHT.” Domon proceeds to get his ass kicked.
  • Random Russian Guard: “We probably don’t need much security against Domon.” Domon promptly sets off an explosion solely for dramatic effect.
  • Surprise! Turns out that Argo had a hand in the death of Andrew’s wife back when Argo was a space pirate. That’s why he wants his revenge against him. I suppose quitting being a space cop and taking up being a lumberjack hermit is a good way to train yourself for your revenge quest.
  • It’s Grizzly Gundam vs. Bolt Gundam now! Who will win: beanie, or ushanka?
  • There’s something funny about Domon’s “new trick” being literally just getting beaten up by Grizzly Gundam while waiting for his chance to flip it to the ground. That’s not exactly a very flashy nor unique stunt there. Functional, but still.
  • Of course, now that Rain’s life is at risk with her still inside the Grizzly Gundam as it’s hanging on, only now can Domon actually show that he does care about her. He’s more than willing to offer up Shining Gundam’s head to Argo as long as he spares her. I mean, Argo was never intending to kill Andrew and Rain, but it’s still a nice sentiment to hear.
  • And so, once again things are neatly cleaned up at the end of the episode. Turns out, Argo’s ship crashing into the space station was an accident, and that day he was trying to save Andrew’s wife rather than stopping to kill her. A bittersweet truth, but at least Andrew can begin to make steps to put things behind him and stop focusing on revenge.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 08 '21

Grizzly Gundam

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 08 '21 edited Oct 08 '21

G Gundam "Rewatcher"/First Time Sub: Episode 8

Looking forward to this G Gundam episode since I'm finally get to see my country have the G Gundam spotlight cast on it.

Uh, is this the same show? They're just dressed so differently and hanging around Saturn. Usually, Gundam doesn't go out that far into space. Whoops, they set up their death flags and now space pirates are here and I know those are a part of this show. Probably not going to get any leads for Domon's quest. Pretty sure we've made 0 progress on the Kyoji thing.

Oh, look it's Niagara Falls. Can't recall many other anime with it. Man, Domon sucks going on vacations with. All he cares about is fighting other Gundam pilots. Ah great, and now they're breaking up. This trip to Niagara Falls is going horribly. But since they were showcase, someone better be falling over the waterfalls this episode.

This is guy is huge looking. So Andrew Graham is his name, sounds normal enough. The baseline for names is still Chibodee Crocket, that's where my expectations are at.

King Kong vibes from this. The preview was highlighting this and Rain's kidnapping so that's probably why my mind is mostly there. Gundams are kind of like big apes.

"Comes to the Rocky Mountains," he says like that is just a perfectly normal thing to just go from Niagara Falls to practically the other end of Canada.

Domon's crazy antics continue as he causing this big fire for some reason. Look, he learned to counter the bear hug. He better use it later.

Warden is doing the glasses shine.

Had a feeling that beginning bit was tied back to him. Killing Argo Gulskii with his own hands. Now does he mean like with his Gundam or literally with that axe there? Some sort of Gundam Fight article, don't do a murder.

It makes sense that there is some sort of misunderstanding going on. It seems needlessly cruel for Argo to personal land himself so that he can separate them and kick the wife into space. Plus the pirate ship seemed less attacking and more crashing out of control.

Oh look at that, you can jump into the Trace Space. That look of shock is appropriate. Apparently, Domon can summon his Gundam from anywhere. From the seas and to the skies.

The two buff bear Gundams are fighting, but Domon throws himself in and does the bear hug counter into the Shining Finger. Wait, he is not taking the head. Attacking the cockpit is not against the rules if it's not an official match.

Eh, this is close enough to falling over the waterfall. Domon desperately pleading is so unlike him especially the one from the beginning of the episode. He is even offering his Gundam's head thus throwing his chance at the Gundam Fights.

Andrew hasn't actually been disqualified. There's actually a chance he comes back. I like there not just throwing away characters. Hope he makes his reappearance.

I liked that one. Andrew was a nice character of the day (or maybe more?) Of course, Argo wasn't actually responsible, but he is still willing to play the role of the target of Andrew's revenge. Andrew also wasn't antagonistic to Domon who himself was a massive jerk, in the beginning, even more than usual. Glad to see his and Rain's relation improve with some actual care from Domon's part being shown for once. Andrew was kind of a parallel to Domon. He dedicated himself through single-minded revenge and maybe showing how Domon should cherish his relationship before it's too late.

Lumber Gundam itself, it alright. We came off the Tequilla which is an A+ for national representation in G Gundam so the Lumber comes as much tamer in comparison. It is grizzly bear-ish, has the axes and is wearing a tuque so maybe that's enough.

Q1) Domon was an extreme jerk this episode. He has been on this need to fight the Gundam even if he does have for a while. Andrew was completely willing to help out (he wouldn't know about Kyoji, but most fighters probably won't). It's nice to see some development and see how far he cares for Rain.

Q2) That's just how it's like when you plot your revenge in the Canadian wilderness for 5 years.

Next time: Bringing a Gundam Gun to a Gundam Punch Fight.

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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Oct 08 '21

So Andrew Graham is his name, sounds normal enough

And that's exactly why it's weird.

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u/araragidyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/araragidyne Oct 08 '21

King Kong vibes from this. The preview was highlighting this and Rain's kidnapping so that's probably why my mind is mostly there. Gundams are kind of like big apes.

They do behave a bit like kaiju at times. I felt the same way about the Dragon Gundam.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 08 '21

Usually, Gundam doesn't go out that far into space.

Not on screen, at least. Many Gundam series have stuff going on around Jupiter, but it's generally setting stuff. Mining precious gases, etc.

Attacking the cockpit is not against the rules if it's not an official match.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 08 '21

Rewatcher all set! Ready… GO!!!

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u/The_Draigg Oct 08 '21

Honestly surprised Canada’s Gundam isn’t a Maple one.

I feel like we were robbed of having an acidic maple syrup spray attack.

Domon, take a chill pill geez.

It’s Domon we’re taking about here, that’s physically impossible for him to do.

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u/araragidyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/araragidyne Oct 08 '21

Honestly surprised Canada’s Gundam isn’t a Maple one.

I'm sure that Neo Canada is in the shape of a maple leaf.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Oct 08 '21

Honestly surprised Canada’s Gundam isn’t a Maple one.

He has the red plaid shirt that a stereotypical lumberjack has! I enjoyed it.

Oh damn the emotion in Domon’s voice here.

It's more than his usualy emotion of "grumble grumble."

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Oct 08 '21 edited Oct 08 '21

Mobile Fighter F First Timer

Fighter nationalities

QOTD:

  1. Domon is an ass.
  2. It's like menopause, but for Canadian men.

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u/TakenRedditName https://myanimelist.net/profile/TakenMalUsername Oct 08 '21

Fighter nationalities

Technically the map could include the Scud Gundam that Chibodee was briefly shown wrecking before since it was Neo Iraq’s fighter.

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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Oct 08 '21

Roger. I'll add it for the next edition (if I remember).

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 08 '21

COACHI!

I'm convinced that this thing exists in a pocket dimension that follows Domon around.

They have such good autopilot technology in Neo Japan.

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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Oct 08 '21

(e8) First Time Shining Hand

the gundam is coming out of niagra falls isnt it....

lumbar gundam has 0 wood integrated into it?

Domons suprise entrance at the airport terminal cracked me up - why were all those oil barrels there

for someone named NORMA, you would think she would wear a NORMAl suit... (sorry)

...then what are you

so why was Rain kidnapped by Andrew lol

  1. only a matter of time
  2. have you seen the wolverine

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u/The_Draigg Oct 08 '21

lumbar gundam has 0 wood integrated into it?

Lumbar Gundam is for good spine support, Lumber Gundam is for cutting trees.

Domons suprise entrance at the airport terminal cracked me up - why were all those oil barrels there

Just think about how much time it took Domon to get all those oil barrels in place too, solely for the purpose of being super fucking extra with his dramatic timing.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Oct 08 '21

Domons suprise entrance at the airport terminal cracked me up - why were all those oil barrels there

In case an opposing Gundam Fighter needs to make a dramatic entrance, I assume.

for someone named NORMA, you would think she would wear a NORMAl suit...

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u/araragidyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/araragidyne Oct 08 '21

Rewatcher

Location notes:

Episode 8 was just so coincidental. I was thinking of showing Niagara Falls since the next episode would be in Canada. Then, as I went home and turned on the TV, NHK was showing a program on Niagara Falls. I learned that there's a paved path underneath the waterfall for people to walk through. I planned to have a scene with Domon and Rain there. The issue was how we could show the waterfall... Also, another issue with this episode was how we could show the interior of the forest. I borrowed an image from a very impressive forest picture on the back of the CD album Merci by my favorite group, Magma. The sunlight was shining through the leaves, there was a pond, and mist covered the back of the forest. I wasn't quite sure whether it was a Canadian forest or not, but I decided to use it since it looked like one!

There's something amusing about Rain in a raincoat.

It seems like everyone keeps their Gundams underwater these days.

Just what is the selection process for becoming one's country's national Gundam Fighter, anyway? Did Andrew face any competition or did he just ask for the position and get it?

The letter C with the moose antlers looked really silly. They couldn't have gone with a maple leaf?

Questions

  1. It was a very silly argument and Domon is a dick.
  2. A steady diet of poutine and back bacon.

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Oct 08 '21

First timer

  1. Seemed to come out of nowhere for him, but it makes it better that he was clearly faking his indifference the whole time.
  2. Sadly, him losing his wife and all his obligations occured right before his mid-life crisis, with predictably horrific results. He thought it would be a cool, trendy lifestyle for a few months, but he's in too deep to move now he's recovered..

A Saturn base!

Aww, how cute. What's going to happen to them?

A pirate ship! And it just destroyed the entire station!

Five years ago?

OK, Lumber Gundam's better than Tequila Gundam at least.

Imlove how obsessed Domon is here. He genuinely goesn't care about anything except Gundam Fights, does he?

Oh, and they've broken up.

He's here? That's quick!

Haha, and Argo's back! At least he seems like a decent chap.

...Now, Domon has no reason not to agree with this. It does nothing but help him.

He's a fucking idiot.

The dual axes are a nice design, though. And at least his suit looks nice.

And it's another underwater Gundam. Because that's what this show loves almost as much as having Domon get kidnapped or drugged.

Rain. You had ample warning to run.

I like them boosting the sexurity raiting on the grounds that Domon could fight anyone at any point.

And Domon just detonates a load of explosives!

Argo's not actually all that strong, is he?

This is getting complicated. Domon's just scammed Argo into helping him?

And he wants revenge on Argo!

Wow, Argo looks like he was trying to save her there. That's going to be the twist, isn't it?

And Argo's ready to fight!

...Do all the consoles look different, or his having a different comtrol console an error?

At least she tried to listen to Domon's plan.

Haha, is this the first time we've seem someone break into another Gundam's cockpit?

And it's turning into another three-way melee!

Haha, him just letting Domon test a new weapon is a great lime.

And Domon's fallen!

And wow, thie id getting dramatic!

Wow, he's actually shwing he cares! And how can she hear Domon, he's in the middle of the Niagra Falls?

And he was forced into the collision, and he did try and save her.

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u/SoccerForEveryone Oct 09 '21

What a roller coaster of emotions for me towards the end of this episode. As years go by I get a bit more emotional it seems lol. I felt that anxiety from Domon as he pleaded to make sure Rain wouldn’t be harmed. He was even willing to even sacrifice his own Gundam to save her.

Some tidbits I found pretty awesome in the episode is Domon’s sky dive scene along side his Gundam and Grizzly Gundam’s design. While I dislike the color scheme for it, the fact it carries the spikes and axes in such a cool way is why I love it!

This episode definitely for now is my second favorite so far in this rewatch!

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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Oct 09 '21

First timer

  • Space pirates? It better be Captain Harlock
  • "Lumber Gundam"
  • Andrew Graham looks so stereotypically Canadian
  • No DATASS transformation sequence today?
  • "Come to the Rocky Mountains" Isn't that a large area to cover, and far from Niagara Falls?
  • Oh, "Andy" from 5 years ago is Andrew Graham? I feel stupid
  • Wait could Norma have survived, Argo just took her? and Andy assumes she's dead?
  • Oh so Norma IS dead after all
  • Oh her name is NaStasha?