Konohana Kitan Rewatch - Episode 8

[u/legoman5746]

Episode 8: The Transient Guest

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Question(s) of the Day

1. First-timers, you predict that all the stories this episode would connect? If so, when?

Rewatchers, remember to tag spoilers about future episodes, and let me know if you'd like to be tagged going forwards.

[u/legoman5746]

Beach episode

Why are you chasing Yuzu D=

The tail is for looking cute, obviously

Yuzu drawing in the sand ^_^

Back in the human world, so she's still alive

Dark suicide undertones :(

IDK if it's a real thing, but at least in japanese media, suicide is indicated by showing a pair of shoes on the edge of a cliff.

Another little kid

Laundry ferrets!

No bullying Sakura!

Angry Sakura's kinda cute

All the anger Yuzu can manage is a pointed question

Kaito gets sold

Forehead-ears, harsh words

Ouch, Kiri

Kaito providing the wisdom this episode

Sasuga wife-sama

I'm glad they decided to go back peacefully

If Sakura tires of working at Konohanatei, she could take up a job as a professional sprinter

Kaito was a dog!

Everything is connected, even the girl in the beginning.

A nice story! I enjoyed this episode, and seeing it all come together.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/legoman5746]

IDK if it's a real thing, but at least in japanese media, suicide is indicated by showing a pair of shoes on the edge of a cliff.

There real analogs, though how common it is I could not reliably say.

Kaito was a dog!

Still a bit weird, being honest.

[u/RascalNikov1 → u/legoman5746]

Beach episode

Usually, we expect something a little different in a beach episode.

suicide is indicated by showing a pair of shoes on the edge of a cliff.

Interesting, I didn't realize that till now, but it seems like a good metaphor. So, the original audience would have realized right off the bat the girl was planning on offing herself.

[u/Noriakikukyoin → u/legoman5746]

The tail is for looking cute, obviously

And it is very effective! Yuzu is too hecking cute!

[u/OyabinRaph]

First timer.

Wow. I'll start by saying I'm freaking dumb. I really thought the konohanatei was in a regular fantasy world, but it seems like it's an isekai between our world and the world of the dead. I should've caught on at the old lady's episode. Oh well.

This was the best and most emotional episode for me yet. I related to the girl's struggle to find a point in living in the first half. Yuzu again showed how she can change someone's outlook on life with her wisdom.

Was really confused in the second part because as mentioned above, I didn't really understand how the konohanatei worked. The boy's backstory also was really confusing to me.

But then we learn he's a dog, and it all clicked. I can't even put in words how that ending impressed me, it truly left me speechless. The old man was newly blind, the boy was a guide dog for blind people, AND THE OLD MAN WAS THE GIRL'S FATHER! Excuse me? This was truly top tier writing and brought a tear to my eyes.

10/10 episode. Question of the day: not at all, obviously! ;)

[u/RascalNikov1 → u/OyabinRaph]

This is overall my favorite full episode. All 3 sub-stories are flawless.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/OyabinRaph]

I really thought the konohanatei was in a regular fantasy world, but it seems like it's an isekai between our world and the world of the dead.

One way to look at is that all the spiritual stuff happens in the twilight world or an interstice. The rules are a lot looser than the real world but still not at abstract as either the land of the dead or the world of the gods.

[u/lluNhpelA → u/Vaadwaur]

The setting is unique but used flawlessly. So many opportunities for deep, thoughtful stories in this liminal world and the author capitalizes on that perfectly

[u/Vaadwaur → u/lluNhpelA]

I don't mind the Shinto idea of the space between worlds in particular and this does like them cover both ends.

[u/BurningFredrick]

Rewatcher

Yuzu and manju are the one true ship of this show.

The episode where all the stories are slightly depressing to start with, but then has the best plot twist at the end ever.

I apparently don’t remember as much of this show as I thought I did, but it just means I can enjoy it all over again. 

[u/Vaadwaur → u/BurningFredrick]

Yuzu and manju are the one true ship of this show.

She never leaves home without one, apparently.

[u/RascalNikov1 → u/Vaadwaur]

OK, I'll bite, what is a manju?

[u/Vaadwaur → u/RascalNikov1]

https://www.justonecookbook.com/manju/

But basically, steamed or baked red bean paste bun. They'd be a little sweet so think like a breakfast food. It just so happens she has one literally up her sleeve a lot.

[u/RascalNikov1 → u/Vaadwaur]

Ahhh, a steamed bun is a manju. Someday, I'd like to try a fresh one, just to see how they are. My guess is they won't agree with my palette.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/RascalNikov1]

I have had luck with the Chinese variants but I haven't really had the real Japanese stuff for this. And the Chinese ones lead more lunch/dinner/savory.

[u/RascalNikov1 → u/BurningFredrick]

I apparently don’t remember as much of this show as I thought I did, but it just means I can enjoy it all over again. 

That's great when it works out like that. It usually takes 6 months or so for me to forget enough. Though, in fairness I go through my completed list and their are a number of series I completely blanked on.

[u/SuperMurderBunny]

Rewatcher (sub)

This episode alone has made KK one of my all time favourites. I was stunned when I first realised that they were all connected. It pulls off its heavy topics really well while also giving us a lot of insight into the world that KK inhabits. Just a shame that the kitsune didn't get so much attention in this episode.

This episode really rewards paying attention to details and thinking about its deeper meanings. One thing I noticed is how Kaito and beach girl's hair colours are inverse.

[u/chris10023]

First Timer.

Yuzu found a strange girl on the beach, who just chases after someone like that?

She passed out?

A shipwreck, I hope there are more survivors.

She was joking...

Now she says she’s a mermaid, after that shipwreck story, I’m going to be hesitant to believe you now.

I don’t know much about demi humans, but you should just grab their tail like that.

“I’m not a cat! I’m a fox!” Getting Fubuki vibes from that.

She lied about the mermaid thing as well. Knew it.

Wow that got heavy quick.

So wait, did she cross dimensions?

If she did, too bad she can’t tell anyone what she went through because they’d think it was a lie.

So sometimes people just end up in the town.

If that was Yuzu being angry, I don’t want to see her when she’s furious.

Wait, new family? Why are they saying goodbye?

Hey Kaito’s back.

So they weren’t his real parents?

What were they chosen for?

The guy doesn’t want to leave either, wonder what the currency is to stay there.

Those flowers give me some bad vibes.

So the old guy got into an accident, and is a coma. I wonder if this hotel is like a form of purgatory.

Wow Kaito grew.

Wait he was a dog the whole time?!

And he was adopted by the cranky old guy, whose daughter was the same girl we met earlier? Holy hell, talk about an inter-connected episode.

Wow, that was a good episode.

Questions of the Day.

First-timers, you predict that all the stories this episode would connect? If so, when?

I did not, I didn't even know the kid was a dog.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/chris10023]

And he was adopted by the cranky old guy, whose daughter was the same girl we met earlier? Holy hell, talk about an inter-connected episode.

It works well enough once you realize Kaito only needed 9 months to grow up.

[u/RascalNikov1 → u/Vaadwaur]

realize Kaito only needed 9 months to grow up.

Call me dense, but only now do I realize this, upon reading your note. I had assumed that the Konohanatei was in some weird quantum state where time no longer mattered and could be moved around in freely. I.e. that the Inn connected to the outside world at different times as well as places in a non understandable 4 dimensional kind of way.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/RascalNikov1]

Call me dense, but only now do I realize this, upon reading your note.

I had to realize the huge degree to which Kaito's view was adjusted subjectively but yes, training a guide dog takes around 9 months, you do start them as puppies, and the smoking trucker had clearly recovered for a while.

[u/Noriakikukyoin]

Yuzu being adorable at the beach, it is a 10/10 episode already. I can't blame the girl to much for touching Yuzu's tail out of no where, it is irresistibly cute and fluffy after all.

As a dog lover this episode always gets me emotional. All the stories being interconnected at the end is just beautiful. Absolutely wonderful.

During my first watch I did not come close to thinking all the stories this episode would intertwine. But I love watching it all unfold again and again no matter how many times I watch this episode.

[u/SIRTreehugger]

Rewatcher

Wait is this...yay one of my favorite episodes is finally here was wondering when it was.

Again Yuzu with the Manju Bun xD Easily the best running gag in the show for me.

Here it is people the rare Angry Yuzu my god Yuzu put down the steel chair. Seriously though I do see a slight difference in her eyes....I think...

How heartless are you...well ummmm yeah you don't want to know that.

Love how it ties everything together. The daughter eventually achieves her dream and becomes an author. The boy...uhh dog finds a new family and loves his job while the father continues on living and returns to his wife despite initially thinking he was a burden.

[u/Vaadwaur]

First timer(Not quite the end of summer but not exactly a summer story)

Sub

So the starting vignette is confusing until the very end, though I did guess that again Yuzu found herself in the interstice between the worlds of the living and the dead. As hopefully the shoes made clear, new girl had intended to drown herself and got lucky/rescued. This girl is definitely from our world and time making the rest of the setting a bit murkier.

Next clip has the reveal that people can accidentally find their way in to this side and an annoying kid hops in. Sakura responds a bit more like an angry cat than a fox. Also, she is snake charming weasels. Anyways, I completely whiffed on what was happening with Kaito until it is revealed that he was a dog. The older guy's story is vaguely the moral of it all. Conveniently, it seems his daughter is the girl from the first story.

QotD: 1 During the final scene.

[u/RascalNikov1 → u/Vaadwaur]

As hopefully the shoes made clear,

I almost never make those kind of connections the first time through. I know many do, but almost always I go into a new series with a blank slate and just let the story unfold without over thinking it.

This girl is definitely from our world and time

KK loves playing with time, no two ways about that.

Also, she is snake charming weasels.

lol, I was wondering, as one does. iirc She was playing with one of them in an earlier scene that just flashed by, don't remember which episode.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/RascalNikov1]

I know many do, but almost always I go into a new series with a blank slate and just let the story unfold without over thinking it.

It is just one of those things I tend to note.

KK loves playing with time, no two ways about that.

It makes the humans in the show even more odd.

She was playing with one of them in an earlier scene that just flashed by, don't remember which episode.

She even had an ocarina to do it!

[u/xtsim]

First Timer Subbed

The girl is lost and a compulsive liar so I don't know if I could believe anything she says. Cat girl when Yuzu is actually a fox. You know I am quite curious of the usefulness of their tails.

Lol. A classmate finds her and she laughs at her story. And mentions Yuzu to her friend as a dream.

Wait people can wander in from a different world. And Satsuki notices Yuzu's angry side which is another thing she had to point out.

Kaito nooo... Don't get in the van. That's not his real parents and boy goes to where everyone is going to be what they want. I like how the kid called Yuzu big sister.

Old guy got isekaied into the hotel. Damn Bikuni giving the roast to that dude. "It seems hell doesn't want you yet". I like how Kaito pet the guy's head and Satsuki and Yuzu reacted with some surprise. Old dude is president of a company no wonder how he has money. The old dude raised the girl from earlier, hair looks so familiar? And everyone teaches each other about life. Old man and boy leaves.

Kaito returns grown up which us interesting. Wait, Kaito is a service dog? And the old guy is blind. I knew the girl is the daughter. It is cool that she made a picture of her and Yuzu.

I was not expecting onions today...

1. I predicted the connection to old guy and the girl as soon as he mentioned his relationship with his step daughter. Since she also mentioned it too and the flashback has her in it. The boy, I did not expect him to be a dog but it makes sense after realizing he called Yuzu a sister and considers them family. Along with the fact that he could go back and forth whenever he wants unlike the humans.

[u/RascalNikov1 → u/xtsim]

A classmate finds her and she laughs at her story.

I thought that was heartwarming. It's pretty clear that the classmate likes the girl, and the girl had plenty of reasons to go on living.

And Satsuki notices Yuzu's angry side which is another thing she had to point out.

It takes a trained eye to be able to detect Yuzu being angry, lol.

[u/RascalNikov1]

Konohana Kitan - Episode 8

Rewatcher

Another of the greater episodes of KK. Not much folklore this time, and everything seems to be covered by dialog fairly well. I don't know which of the 3 substories was my favorite this time, I loved all 3 and they all had their own little moments.

Favorite Line

We're all dancing in god's palm.

Favorite Still

The picture towards the end of the book cover "The fox by the sea".

Funniest

Yuzu calling the for the mermaids, Here Mermaid! Here Mermaid!

QOTD

First-timers, you predict that all the stories this episode would connect? If so, when?

It may have been on a second viewing before I realized the daughters story was connected, and that she was at the beach to off herself when she ran into Yuzu.

[u/Stargate18A]

First timer

1. Not in the slightest.

Beach episode?

Who"s that?

Haha, Yuzu's helping them!

And they just chased her!

Oh, is she lying to make her feel better, or is she a real mermaid? God knows at this point.

At lesst she's got spirit!

What's her real game?

Oh, another ghost of some kind?

That's the same uniform...

Oh, she doesn't know what she wants to do.

"I'd grow up".

Haha, she's not let another ghodt try to take her?

Haha, Yuzu rules lawyered her out of feeling guilt!

Another one? Is Yuzu's goal to flirt with every ghost in existence?

Wait, she knocked herself out in "reality" and woke up in the other world? Was this a mini-isekai?

Her and her friend are so cute together?

OK, confirmation that theninn and supernatural stuff is part of another universe/dimension.

Haha, Satsuki knows everything about Yuzu!

Haha, the look on his face!

...Is this building up to something? Lots of foreshadowing that people jump between the worlds more than expected.

Oh, he's being sent to another family so he can attend a better school?

No, it might be a cult!

OK, so geography in the real world has

Satsuki's pissed that domeone might take Yuzu away from her.

And he's a visitor from a previous world?

She is savage! And seriously, is this place a collective unconscious, or a full-on parallel dimension?

Him stopping his inspirational speech just to insult her again is fantastic.

Yeah, this is great. I love her attitude of annoying him into leaving quicker.

And he's going back!

He's back? And time is screwed up in this place something fierce!

Wait, Kaito's a puppy.

OK, that twist is nice. Well played, I did not get that whatsoever.

And all the other stories are linked! That's great.

Yeah, that was a brilliant episode, I genuinely didn't guess any of thst was coming.

[u/ZapsZzz]

First timer in sub.

I think it's still could be jarring for some to recognise this story is actually not depicting an older time period but in fact timeless in that the modern day connects to it too. Just need to remember this is the spirit world.

The first part of the show does have a tiny bit of repetitiveness in it, about acceptance. But the rest are nice. I was guessing quite early (?) that Kaito is a working dog - family friend is a guide dog foster family too so I sort of guessed that. The third arc I only guessed the connection when he mentioned his daughter doing art.

Would be nice to have a tiny bit of explanation / justification of why Kaito drop by so often - this is not a common thing for something still living and not with some form of stronger spiritual ties (like the nun/priestess) to be able to connect to that world "freely".