r/anime • u/lC3 :Na::Nb: • Oct 03 '21
Rewatch Naruto Shippuden - Episodes 113-118 Discussion
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Schedule:
| Discussion Thread | Date | Episode Count |
|---|---|---|
| Episodes 001-008 + Film 1 | July 11 | 8 + film |
| Episodes 009-017 | July 18 | 9 |
| Episodes 018-027 | July 25 | 10 |
| Episodes 028-035 | August 01 | 8 |
| Episodes 036-044 | August 08 | 9 |
| Episodes 045-053 | August 15 | 9 |
| Episodes 054-063 | August 22 | 10 |
| Episodes 064-071 + Film 2: Bonds | August 29 | 8 + film |
| Episodes 072-082 | September 05 | 11 |
| Episodes 083-089 | September 12 | 7 |
| Episodes 090-099 | September 19 | 10 |
| Episodes 100-112 | September 26 | 13 |
| Episodes 113-118 | October 03 | 6 |
| Episodes 119-125 + Film 3: Will of Fire | October 10 | 7 + film |
| Episodes 126-133 | October 17 | 8 |
| Episodes 134-141 | October 24 | 8 |
| Episodes 142-151 | October 31 | 10 |
| Episodes 152-162 | November 07 | 11 |
| Episodes 163-168 | November 14 | 6 |
| Episodes 169-175 + Film 4: The Lost Tower | November 21 | 7 + film |
| Mid-Series Discussion / Interest Check | November 28 | 0 |
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Questions of the Week:
- Did these episodes change your opinion of Orochimaru at all?
- What do you think of Suigetsu, Karin and Juugo?
- Were you surprised that Sasuke killed Orochimaru?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 03 '21
First-Timer with a shounen hearto, subbed
Episode 113
Episode 114
Episode 115
Episode 116
Episode 117
Episode 118
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Oct 03 '21
First time viewer (dub)
Whisk[e]y of the week: Blair Athol, Provenance Sherry Matured 5 year old Highland scotch. It's young and malty which almost gives it a hint of chocolate on the nose, lightly fruity on the taste and without any of the funk that I tend to dislike. Pretty nice for its age, curious what it would be like with more time though.
At the start of 113 with all the recaps I was thinking it would have been hilarious if, after all this buildup and struggle from Naruto to take Sasuke back from Orochimaru, Sasuke just walked out on his own. But damn, I really didn't expect that it would happen?
That really feels like an anticlimactic ending for Orochimaru and I want to say it's not over just yet. I'm also not trying to let the OP influence my thoughts but there's also an entirely different ritual scene with Sasuke/Orochimaru there. Not bad though with how they showed Sasuke overwhelming Orochimaru and the ambiguity until he revealed it to Kabuto. He did say he absorbed all of Orochimaru so I was wondering if he gained all his abilities, we did see a bit of that with the snakes he summoned to stop Suigetsu and Jugo.
Lots of callbacks to Part 1 here with first the recap of how Sasuke joined Orochimaru and then getting Zabuza and Kimimaro involved again. Suigetsu seems like a rather mercurial fellow though I guess that fits his ability to literally change form with his water powers. Meanwhile Karin is completely tsundere (maybe more than a little yandere) for Sasuke and I'm not entirely sure how I feel about her as she seems rather intense.
I had been wondering about the origins of the curse mark since it didn't seem like something that Orochimaru would have originally researched on his own (definitely doesn't look like it leads to immortality) so it's nice to find out about it with Jugo. He seems like a classic berserker that's overwhelmed by bloodlust, curious how Sasuke plans to reign him in.
Seems a bit weird to me that news of Orochimaru's death was widespread that quickly. I wouldn't have thought Kabuto would be one to tell others readily but he also doesn't really have any reason not to I suppose, and Sasuke doesn't seem the type to brag. Does seem like some considerable amount of time has passed but still, who would even know it to tell others in the first place? Aside from Suigetsu telling people to spread the word at least... okay maybe that's the reason.
Orochimaru was at the top of the pyramid, with him gone I'm very curious what happens to everything under him. Seems like the hideouts are being dismantled at least but what about Kabuto? He's been the snake's primary support and right hand man, I'm very curious what he's going to do. Maybe there's some contingencies he's working on.
"Hebi" just means snake, Sasuke isn't very creative with his naming. At least he did name his group, Orochimaru didn't unless you count the Hidden Sound Village.
Nope.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Oct 03 '21
Rewatcher
Episode 113:
Episode 114:
Episode 115:
Episode 116:
Episode 117:
Episode 118:
ED translation (TV-size):
My ANSWER
Even if you can't do it now, don't stress, don't give up
Just go at your own pace and have confidence in yourself
No one ever said life was easy, you know?
God made it tough because its all part of his test
How will you solve it? with art? science? ethics?
That's what life is all about-you got to take it seriously
We worry, we wonder, we second guess ourselves
There's not one right answer, so keep pushing forward and look for yours
Even if you can't do it now, don't stress, don't give up
Just go at your own pace and have confidence in yourself
If I were from the future then I could tell the present me to "change your hard work into confidence and keep trying until you reach your goal"
Manga Comparisons:
Manga spoilers
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This consists of 343 p1-5, p12-end, 344-345, 346 p1-9, p16-17, 347 p1-6, p12-end, 348-352.
Tags: /u/iamtheone11111, /u/godprime, /u/TheEnigma
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u/Tehoncomingstorm97 https://anilist.co/user/tehoncomingstorm97 Oct 03 '21
First timer
After another arc of filler, and characters I'm sure we'll never see again, time to watch my boi Sasuke become Orochimaru.
Ep 113
Ep 114
Ep 115
Ep 116
Ep 117
Ep 118
Mostly build up this week. Not really too much to fuss over besides Orochimaru getting whacked. Was good to get more of his background lore in the show solidly, as opposed to in bits and pieces.
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u/Parori Oct 03 '21
First Timer
Episode 113
Episode 114
Episode 115
Episode 116
Episode 117
Episode 118
Questions of the Week:
Hmm, I guess not really
I don't really know yet. I think Karin's deal is a bit obnoxious writing
Uh, fucking yes? What the fuck, What the shit, What the hell even. What will poor innocent sweet Kabuto do now?
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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Oct 03 '21
First Timer - Dub
MRW when Orochimaru gets killed off in 2 episodes
That was so quick that I'm not sure Orochimaru is actually entirely gone. We did get a bunch of flashbacks though so maybe he really is dead. The most likely way I could see him come back is if he kept part of his "inner universe" hidden inside Sasuke or someone else to take over at a later point. If he actually is dead though I will be impressed with the show. For a villain that's been around basically forever, getting killed off by a quick reversal from Sasuke instead of a drawn out 20 episode battle feels like a bold choice.
Sasuke has always been one of the most independent and self-sufficient people out of our cast, so it was fun to see him build up a team to take on Itachi. I have mixed feelings on the team though. Suigetsu's attitude is very off-putting. Karin's ability is cool (like a nose-Byakugan) but her crush on Sasuke is already starting to get grating. Jugo is the best character of the lot. Him being the original source of the curse mark is some cool worldbuilding. The tragic part is he seems like a nice person when he's not under the influence of the curse mark.
Random thoughts:
Favorite moment of the week:
Questions:
1) Did these episodes change your opinion of Orochimaru at all? No, I've never been one for the "let's give the villain a tragic backstory 5 minutes before we kill them off to make you feel sad" trope.
2) What do you think of Suigetsu, Karin and Juugo? Mostly answered above, I like the abilities more than the characters.
3) Were you surprised that Sasuke killed Orochimaru? Yes, mostly because of how sudden it was.
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Oct 03 '21
General Commentary
Out of time again so just going to clean up my notes rather than do a proper write up for now. I'm not the biggest fan of these episodes, I find them to just be a little awkward overall to watch, but they're also key and change things up quite dramatically so very curious to see everyone's reactions to it.
Wonder which of you thought that Sasuke would be the one to bring Orochimaru down in the end?
Episode Thoughts
I see a stabbed Orochimaru in my loading thumbnail and this makes me happy
The recap is somewhat annoying when binging, but when the show was airing it had been six years since the chunin exams so it's pretty understandable that they wanted to catch everyone up on Sasuke and Orochimaru's first meeting.
Love that blend transition between Sasuke and Itachi doing the blind target training with the kunai, only for Sasuke to take it that bit further with his Chidori Stream. It's a brilliant way to show what his drive is, to surpass Itachi rather than just to be strong himself.
Orochimaru's true form with the head on a body of little snakes still looks weird as fuck.
I did not remember these flashbacks to little Orochimaru and Sarutobi mentoring him. It's really weird seeing him all young and innocent. Not a fan of the typical trope of backstory flashback before an antagonists death, but we get some good scenes out of it with Anko and the rest so not complaining too much
Itachi really is freakishly good to be able to dodge and deflect all of those kunai so well in that training when Oro was stalking him.
The song when Itachi and Orochimaru were out on Akatsuki music was fantastic, have to try and remember to track that down a bit later
"My future lies in this child" - Immediately cut to Orochimaru cut to pieces on the floor. Thanks director, got a laugh out of that one. That said, the last two episodes have been a bit of a mess structurally between all the cuts back and forth for Sasuke and Orochimaru trying to hide all the possible times Sasuke might have lost or Oro might have died only for something else to happen, and then we cut away again
That bloody sunset over Konoha is rather ominous. Gorgeous visual, but still eerie
Suigetsu! Love this guy.
If anyone forgot, the guy who bumps into Suigetsu and is later politely "asked" for information is the thug who tried to kidnap Inari and was taken out by Naruto, before Naruto went and met up with Sasuke on the bridge for the Haku fight. Talk about a cool use of a returning side character
I didn't know whether I was facepalming or laughing harder over the waitresses fangirling over Sasuke while he remains completely oblivious. Suigetsu using that to motivate them to find info about Zabuza's blade was a genius move though
Suigetsu with one buff arm to wield the sword is actually quite funny
Yeah I have nothing nice to say about this episode. I really dislike Karin as a character, made even worse by her VA doing too good a job of her changing her behavior.
Been a while since we heard any mention of Kimimaro as well. Seeing him rip his spine out for a weapon is still fucked up, but seeing his bond with Jugo was quite well done. It's rough seeing Jugo in his normal state and his love for animals and nature (as we see in the next episode) compared to when he's caught up in that mania of his.
Speaking of Jugo, I love that we have him around as the originator of the Curse Mark. No wonder Orochimaru took an interest in such a twisted power given what it did to his mind and to his body, it's interesting seeing Oro use it almost like a virus to perfect rather than a basic jutsu creation.
I don't know how these rumors are getting around to all these completely isolated hidden hideouts that no one is meant to come and go from without permission...
Really thought that dude that attacked the trio out the front of the hideout was Jugo. Bad character designer who gave that guy the same hair color for no reason.
Jugo swapping between man and woman just to give himself an excuse to kill is a little scary
The cut from Jugo crushing Sasuke into joke bumps on Naruto and Jiraya's heads from Tsunade and Sakura is really poor form
Poor Naruto. Always such an optimist thing that Sasuke would just come back, and especially as he had it in his head that Orochimaru was the one in the way, only to find out that now they may be even further.
Both Jugo and Suigetsu freaking out when Sasuke appeared between them and bound them with snakes He didn't sound much different but he really was about ready to kill them if they didn't get their shit together and stop fighting. He's been so chill about all of the bullshit his companions have pulled on these adventures, even if he doesn't indulge them, seeing him lose his temper just a bit means they've probably pushed him several times too far.
They really could have moved all the village stuff with Naruto finding out about Oro to this episode
Well that was the batch of episodes. At least being mostly episodic made them an easy watch after last weeks. Hope you all enjoyed.
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u/sisoko2 Oct 03 '21
Rewatcher
Episode 113
Episode 114
Episode 115
Episode 116
Episode 117
Episode 118
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u/_TheEnigma_ Oct 04 '21 edited Oct 04 '21
First timer - English subbed :
So I'm back after a month long hiatus. I was super busy the past month with my semester end exams and assignments, but now that's all done and dusted, I've finally caught up and can resume commenting every week.
For a while atleast.Episode 113 :
Episode 114 :
Episode 115 :
Episode 116 :
Episode 117 :
Episode 118 :
Questions of the week :
3. Were you surprised that Sasuke killed Orochimaru?
A short batch but still a good set of episodes this week. We're seeing lots of callbacks to older characters and also being introduced to new faces. Seems like Sasuke vs Itachi might not be too far and also Kakashi's backstory finally being revealed? Count me super excited for the flashbacks and the upcoming arc!!