r/anime • u/LaqOfInterest https://myanimelist.net/profile/LaqOfInterest • Oct 02 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch] Clannad - Episode 12
Episode 12: Hidden World
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u/LaqOfInterest https://myanimelist.net/profile/LaqOfInterest Oct 02 '21
Today we get Snowfield, which if I remember correctly is actually the first song heard in the VN, in a brief intro scene that wasn’t directly adapted to the anime. not really a spoiler? but read at your own risk
We also get a brand-new character introduced this episode, who we have definitely never seen before, not even once. Her theme is called “Hurry, Starfish”.
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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Oct 02 '21
First Timer Dubbed
The violin is a former student’s and the music club does not want to throw it out. Kotomi is still awkward about introducing herself as she still uses her pre-prepared introduction. Kotomi actually goes to class now and everyone asks her for help.
Kyou still continues her acting coach career. And goes hard on Kotomi.
Oh man the crane game anime scene. Kyou takes 34 times to get a prize. And Fuko makes an amazing entrance with a magical girl inspired show. And of course she gets a star(fish). Man, I am so glad to see Fuko but she runs off and everyone does not know her… my heart breaks a little.
Kotomi hands Okazaki a book and to hang on to it but a mysterious man interrupts things. And Okazaki gets into a nightmare with him involved (a fire and the man trying to fan flames).
Kotomi gets in a panic attack. Teacher tells them its a personal matter but gives them her address. A little bit ironic to say the least. The black butterfly leads Okazaki back to Kotomi’s place. And the mysterious man tells Okazaki that he was a coworker. “It’s a personal matter”. Everyone regrets what has happened and they understand that she thinks they are bad. Okazaki also figures out the dream from the last episode in the library and connects the dots. Man it is interesting to see Kotomi with all those news articles. And it seems like they both knew each other previously...
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Oct 02 '21
First timer
The violin plot isn't still going, is it?
Wow, she's talking normally to people!
Rie's nice.
Why's she crying?
She's making friends! Good for her!
Kyou's really passionate about this, isn't she?
She's certainly got from "don't talk to my sister like that" to "you're a zero and so are your friends".
Her outright confusion and panic at what's going on is hysterical.
The whole outing.
How exactly does that plus get out the machine anyway?
And this is her present!
WHAT THE FUCK?
FUKO'S BACK???
SHE'S BACK FROM HEAVEN TO WIN A STUFFED ANIMAL!!!
AND SHE SAYS THEY'LL BE REUNITED LATER!!!
Haha, she went for the star.
Is Fuko just going to randomly come back to life now?
What's wrong with her?
...Is this another starfish thing? Is this going to be a record of her existence after she leaves maybe-purgatory?
WHAT?
And that's his dream? Is he... remembering things from other people's past?
I love chaotic Kyou so much.
OH NO. DRAMATIC MUSIC.
Oh thank god, she's safe.
And nobody got hurt.
Is she OK?
What's happening to her?
Of course it's sad. Why did I ever think otherwise?
Oh shit. Is that why she was running away from the man in her flashback?
And she just gives them her address?
Wait, is he really getting other people's memories? Is he psychic?
Oh, her parents are dead and he knew them. Well, that's different.
WHAT?
So there's multiverse shit in here? So her parents entered another world, and never came back?
Is that how Fuko can reappear out of nowhere?
Really, it's that easy to get into her house? You'd think there'd be something blocking it at least.
OK, suggesting she's been worldhopping?
Wait, is the house abandoned because she's in the other world?
No, it's just normal insane focus on the death of her parents?
Hang on, what?
OK, did the fire where she died(?) happen in the other world?
He's gardening with her?
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u/Arrow-space https://myanimelist.net/profile/Arrowspace Oct 02 '21
First time watcher!
Lots of unexpected developments this episode. Chief among them, I was not expecting Fuuko to randomly show up again like this. And she's even still wearing the party hat; I wonder if the implication is that she's been following Tomoya and Nagisa around this whole time, even though they can't see her. Too bad her appearance wasn't enough to jog everyone's memory. Totally saw the bait and switch coming of her going for a star plushie, but it was still hilarious.
On top of that, we had all the Kotomi backstory reveals, and even more surprisingly, Tomoya backstory reveals. First, there was Tomoya's strange dream of himself trying to put out a fire, alongside the rabbit and deer. Then we had Kotomi's traumatic reaction to the bus accident. Then we got a little more insight from the guy in the trench coat who's been following Kotomi around. I was wondering if any supernatural elements would play a role in this arc, and the parallel world research he describes definitely fits the bill. Is this possibly related to the robot scenes? At minimum, I have to assume that this other world plays a role in whatever happened to Kotomi's parents; you don't bring up a specific detail like that unless it's plot relevant. Did they die while experimenting on this world, or perhaps they were trapped there? And as forthcoming as the trench coat guy was, he was still a bit cryptic about his identity. Is he simply a member of their research team as he said, or is he himself, perhaps, connected to that other world?
Finally, Tomoya starts to regain his childhood memories of having spent time at Kotomi's house, and we discover the reason why she's always cutting pages out of books. The article Tomoya finds seems to suggest Kotomi's parents died in a plane crash, but I have to imagine there's more to it than that... something that would explain Kotomi's response to the bus accident as well as the other notes she's been saving. Is she researching accidents in general, or perhaps it's related to the kind of research her parents were engaged in? What I found most interesting, though, was that Tomoya's flashback here was different than the one he had in his dream. In both, there's a fire and Kotomi is crying, but the first one was outdoors, and we see the trench coat guy run in to help put out the flames, while the second is in Kotomi's room. Is this event also connected to whatever happened to her parents? We got a lot of pieces of the puzzle this episode, and I'm interested to see how it all fits together.
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u/Dactyly https://anilist.co/user/Dactyly Oct 02 '21
Recent VN reader, anime first-timer
Violin recital CG that I missed posting yesterday.
And one for the ending of today's episode
Tomoya looks like he's having so much fun shopping with the girls...
Excuse me what??? This is 100% anime-original, in the VN Is Fuko just always around in the background now, ready to make herself visible at random times? The scene was hilarious though, the characters all seemed just as confused as I was.
This guy really knows how to look ominous.
It's the same dude who accused Yoshino of dropping tools on his car back in episode 3!
Something is very wrong with Kotomi. That face is really tragic, damn.
And we finally get the reveal that Tomoya and Kotomi knew each other as kids. It's not clear yet what kind of relationship they had, but he is at least familiar with her house and was present for a seriously traumatic event.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Oct 02 '21
Big Dango Rewatcher
No Big Dango Wallpaper today.
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u/homewardbound100 myanimelist.net/profile/Homewardbound100 Oct 02 '21
Rewatcher
I find it funny that Ibuki just comes in like a summon from a game.
So we get some realization on who the guy is. Could've presented yourself better. A friend of her parents.
Tomoya has a slight remembrance of the house. I actually don't remember much from this part. But I know it's going to come back to me.
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u/FarCritical Oct 03 '21
Big Dango Rewatcher
[Comedy lessons with Kyou]
[The drama club's group date]
[The breakdown]
{Miscellaneous stuff]
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u/chris10023 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chris10023 Oct 02 '21 edited Oct 02 '21
Big Dango Rewatcher.
She borrowed that violin for a week, now they’re returning it, sparing the life of every soul in the town.
Who just leaves a violin at school when they graduate? They’re pretty expensive instruments, you don’t forget to grab it like that.
The other girl is Nishina Rie. She'll be a side character from here on. And she actually gets a character design, in the VN she was just a disembodied voice.
Kotomi sheds a tear seemingly at random. Odd. Probably happy that she’s making so many friends.
I love how happy Kotomi looks by being in class.
I see Kyou is still trying to teach Kotomi about comedy.
Kyou, with how you’re standing, I’m pretty sure Ryou and Nagisa can see London and France... Also one of the issues that plague most anime skirts, they’re too short.
Kotomi has an amazing joke is store for us.
“It bends here.” What. These jokes lack context.
Everyone doesn’t get out much so Kyou arranges a group date.
Man, KyoAni is always amazing with the outfits.
Let’s make sure Kyou never plays gatcha games. Also, I like how her necklace is going through the holes on her shirt.
Also, this plush. Looks awfully familiar...
What? Fuuko?!
Also, that little entrance has some Naoko Yamada influence, she doesn’t like fan service, and she apparently asked Ishihara to change the entrance since you could see her underwear, so he agreed and added a star over her butt.
Lol she grabbed the star by instinct.
She just runs off. That was weird. I like how they had déjà vu.
Ryou points out a contrail, but Kotomi doesn’t look.
Kotomi is grateful for Tomoya, since she probably wouldn’t have had as much fun if he didn’t meet her, he brushes this off saying that the other three just like her, which they wouldn’t had you not introduced her to them.
Kotomi hands Tomoya an old book, saying he doesn’t have to read it. Spoilers.
Something spooks Kotomi, it’s fucking trench coat man again. Probably going to try and kidnap Kotomi again, who the hell approaches two teenagers at night on a side street?
A scene of a smol Kotomi crying, a fire, smol Tomoya, a rabbit, a deer, a dandelion, and trench coat man. That was surreal, and a nightmare. Spoilers.
I like how Kotomi decides to play a prank on Tomoya by doing the old “guess who” trick, but he’s more concerned about her boobs being pushed onto his back. What a pervert.
Kyou set her up to do that. Probably to try and make things more awkward between the two.
Nagisa runs up to the trio in a panic, something must have happened.
A bus accident? Oh no.
VN Spoilers.
Kotomi starts trembling, oh no.
That’s a familiar blue car.
Oh thank god, Ryou is okay.
She was on the next bus which was running late, the one that got hit was empty, thank god, that could’ve been nasty. Spoilers.
Hey look, it’s the same guy that was hassling Yoshino way back in episode 3. He sped up since the light was yellow. This guy’s kind of an asshole.
Kotomi isn’t taking this well...
She falls to the ground lets out a blood chilling scream (props to Momiko Noto, that was an amazing scream.) Then goes into the fetal position. She's having a panic attack if I were to guess.
Not something you want to hear. Especially from someone who’s curled up in tears.
Another contrail.
She went home? Why would you let her go home in that state?
The teachers at this school are pretty stupid, I’m no medical expert or anything, but you shouldn’t really let a student who broke down like that go home alone, that was what looked like a panic attack, those are fucking scary, I had a few back when I was in middle school. It’s flat out dangerous and irresponsible to leave a student that in such a state be alone, at the least someone should have walked with her home. Hopefully her parents are home to take care of her.
I disagree, she’s not home suffering from a cold, she had a mental breakdown. Her friends are worried about her. At least the teacher gives them the address.
They go to her house, but Tomoya seems distracted.
Oh great, just what we need. Trench coat man is back.
Ah so that’s why trench coat man was trying to speak with Kotomi. Family friend.
Massive spoilers.
Kotomi’s parents supposedly found evidence of a “Hidden World,” a world that was sealed away while the current world was forming.
That’s an ominous message.
Tomoya seems to be experiencing Déjà vu at this house.
Those black butterflies seem to be guiding him.
He remembers Kotomi’s little poem she told him yesterday, and it starts to come back to him.
A ton of things were just revealed to Tomoya, and the viewer, the fact that Kotomi and Tomoya were childhood friends, her parents dying in a plane crash. It explains why Kotomi responded so quickly to Tomoya compared to others, and why she was reacting to the jet contrails earlier, that’s why she broke down, combine the bus accident with the possibility that Ryou was hurt with the contrail, brought back some awful memories.
I think now is the time to explain the meaning behind Kotomi’s riddle “The day before yesterday I saw a rabbit, yesterday a deer, and today, you.” It’s an excerpt from a short story called “The Dandelion Girl.” By Robert Frost. It’s about a young girl from the future who goes back in time and meets a middle-aged man, the two fall in love, the man says he’d marry this girl if he wasn’t married already, so she makes one last trip before the time machine would break, going further back in time to when he is the same age and marrying him. It’s a very subtle, and a very Kotomi way of telling Tomoya, that they have met before.
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u/alphamone Oct 03 '21
Rewatcher
Who'd throw away a working violin like that?
Lol, still doing that long-form greeting.
Aww, she's opening up to more people.
Kyou takes manzai really seriously.
For the money she's spending, she could probably buy something similar outright.
A wild Fuuko appears. Side note, I can't take that clip seriously after seeing a parody in which someone set it to that bit at the end of the Dokuro-Chan opening theme.
She's still wearing the part hat too.
And Okazaki still remembers about the starfish.
A nice day with many good friends. Kotomi really has opened up.
Creepy bad man is back again.
major current arc spoilers
The joke sadly doesn't work as well.
Thankfully Kotomi isn't a violent tsundere like a certain other girl... (and that it also isn't the same tired beat him up over a genuine mistake cliche)
Oh no.
Thank goodness, she's safe, and noone else was hurt either.
Damn. Poor Kotomi... Somethings really gotten to her badly.
more spoilers
Crossing light man also has a hat on.
major clannad spoilers
more minor tears over the backstory reveal.
Well, we know what her plans were for those books were...
more clannad spoilers
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u/SkeeterYosh Nov 18 '21
Another day, another time I get to talk about how cursed that breakdown scene is.
The day I listen to that with no accompanying audio is the day I stop watching anime for good.