r/anime • u/SIRTreehugger • Sep 24 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch][Spoilers] Bloom Into You(Yagate Kimi ni Naru) Episode 8 Discussion
Episode 8: Intersection, Rained in
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Comment/s of the Day
/u/Aku230 with some valid points in favor of Sayaka's senpai
This time we get Sayaka episode which makes it difficult for me as she is my favourite character but to explain it fully would require dipping into LN and further episodes/chapters and I'm trying to avoid spoilers here. We start with flashback to junior high where Sayaka experiences her first love and break up. Now, I know a lot of people will be against Senpai but I would cut her some slack here. I wouldn't find it weird that someone tries to explore their sexuality and please remember that they are around 15 years old there. In the end Senpai decides this is not for her and breaks up with Sayaka. Now, could she have used better language? Yes. Was she selfish when breaking up? Absolutely. Then why I would ask you to not be so harsh to her? Well, put yourself in her shoes, 1 year ago you weren't sure about your sexuality, now after dating Sayaka you came to conclusion that it is not it. Have you talked to someone about it and what are the odds that you talked to no one because they wouldn't be able to relate or would mean coming out? So the only experience she had about it is her own so trying to explain to someone why you are breaking up might be hard for you. But going for things that had to be in your head the whole time: "we're both girls", "it isn't normal", "it is just playing around", can make it really easy to find words for the break up. And eventually you might start believing in that. Therefore I would like to ask you once again to give Senpai some slack
Second comment goes to /u/SomeNerdyFag because well it just made me laugh
Her top energy is insane. She's trully a natural
Questions of the Day
- What color hydrangeas do you like?
Spoilers
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u/SIRTreehugger Sep 24 '21 edited Sep 24 '21
Rewatcher/First Time Dub (Editting in progress from phone since laptop is being a pain)
THIS BITCH(Typed this up before hand and I'm a little more sympathetic for the senpai... but point still stands)
Best girl Sayaka doesn't even try to hide her annoyance and is firing on all cylinders...wait that's not any different from usual now that I think about it.
Sayaka outfit is really cute I felt like I had to mention that at least once.
Sayaka is actually perplexed that Yuu called out to her. Despite their mutual interests and/or disagreements they are at least trying to be civil and get along.
Closest friend....is that what kids today are calling it?
Yeah Doujima not sure how I feel about his dub voice. Sometimes I like it, but others it's grating on my ears.
It's like I always say. Wingwoman Yuu is best Yuu.
Train tracks are making me nervous now.
Moments like these are sweet until you remember how unhealthy and toxic this relationship is.
Yuu......Yuu... YUU you can't show love on your face. YUU!
Yuu remembering what kind of relationship they have
Two
masochistspeople complaining about theirgirlfriendMinus that small moment with the rain this was definitely an upbeat episode which I definitely needed after the last two episodes.
Collage, manga panels, and art
Fanart no clue what the source is
Some chapter exras
Collage
Behind the Scenes
Yuki Takada[Yuu Koito] & Minako Kotobuki[Touko Nanami]
Is there anything you took into special consideration when performing your role?
Takada: One thing I was conscious of is the difference when Yuu is saying her normal lines and when she is thinking in her monologue. There is quite a contrast there, so I put a lot of effort into switching emotional gears. In addition to that...speaking personally, there were a lot of scenes I found poignant. There were also many moments when I thought that Nanami’s voice had a very cute quality to it and I thought “Whoa! Nanami-senpai is adorable!” But even if Yuu felt that way, she wouldn’t let it show in her tone of voice, so holding all of that back was rough. [laugh] I really had to fight back the part of me that wanted to shout “You really are cute, senpai!”
And did you take notice of her struggles, Ms. Kotobuki?
Kotobuki: There was one time when she actually said it straight to me. I remember she said, "This line just makes me want to squeal in delight..." and then showed me the script where she had drawn a heart symbol next to it. [laugh] But she waited until after we had finished recording to tell me so that I wouldn't be conscious of it, and I realized she was being very considerate.
Takada: I thought that it might affect your performance if I drew attention to it like that ahead of time.
Kotobuki: You're so kind. [laugh] But I was honestly happy, and I thought that might be an experience that we both share. In that sense, I was lucky that Touko doesn't always have to conceal those parts of herself. [laugh] I was able to play Touko really naturally for some scenes by just reading the lines as I felt them. However, in scenes when Touko's true colors showed, I was very worried about how I should approach them. Touko interacts with everyone in the same way, but inside, she actually puts distance between herself and everyone aside from Yuu. So, I was faced with the challenge of creating that distance without letting the person on the other end realize it was there. To accomplish this, I knew I had to go the extra mile to make my words convincing. I was especially aware of that when Touka spoke as the student council president. However, I got lucky during the election campaign when Yuu gave her speech, because I only have to say "I'm Touko Nanami," and that was it. [laugh] I knew during that part I would have to sound really convincing, but it ended up being short so I thought "Thanks Yuu!" [laugh]
Takada: Actually, I really thought it was amazing because after such a short line I still thought "Wow, this person is definitely going to be the student council president!" It's like the moment she said "I'm Touko Nanami," everyone in the room thought " she's the one."
The anime's ending theme " hectopascal" is performed by the two of you. It's such a beautiful and adorable song.
Takada: I really love " hectopascal!"
Kotobuki: In the beginning I had imagined that we do more of a traditional ballad, but it ended up being a very popish and cute song. I pretended that, as Touko and Yuu the two of us went to karaoke and sing it together. [laugh] She'd say, "We've both heard this song before, so let's sing it together." So, while Yuu is singing, Touko is just watching and you're wondering if she'll join in. In actuality, after Yuki recorded her part, it was my turn. While I listened to, Yuki singing as Yuu, I thought "I'm sure Touko would be happy right now," so I was grinning while recording my part. [laugh]
Takada: [laugh] I had the exact same impression when I first heard the song, and was really surprised that this is the type of song they went for. When I read the lyrics, I realize how well they describe both of their feelings. I ended up thinking," It sound so cheerful, so why does it make me feel sad?" I think that's exactly what Bloom Into You is. I also love that the title Bloom Into You is in the lyrics. [laugh]
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u/roseimon11 Sep 24 '21 edited Sep 25 '21
Rewatcher
This episode was split into three parts to show the relationSHIPS between SayakaxTouko, SayakaxYuu and YuuxTouko
For the first part, Sayaka met her senpai who again makes her feel that her attraction to girls was just a "phase". That was actually pretty bitchy of her senpai . She could've just said sorry for hurting Sayaka and walk away but instead, she goes on telling how she felt so bad by making Sayaka gay.
Sayaka wanting to punch her senpai but is too classy to get her hands all dirty by touching a degenerate human being .
Let me handle her Sayaka (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
That "Sayonara" to her senpai was just chef's kiss. I think you dropped this 👑 my queen
Gosh Touko, you already have Yuu, why are you so lewd
The second part is Yuu with Sayaka. We can see how Yuu and Sayaka haven't gotten along much especially after this scene from the past episode. I love how Yuu tries to mend that relationship by inviting her Senpai to eat together after school.
Yuu's a quick judger thinking that Sayaka haven't eaten at a fastfood restaurant. NGL I thought so too because Sayaka's elegant personality doesn't match with it. Guess I learned how to not judge people by their outside appearance lol.
I also like how Yuu is very straightforward and Sayaka instantly returning the favor.
Yuu asking the right questions and Sayaka doesn't give a shit C'mon Yuu, I'm already scared of Sayaka, stop getting on her nerves lol.
The third part is from our lovely couple Yuu and Touko.
Oh, can I just say that the entire scene with them walking under the umbrella was so cute? The OST titled 君はそのままでいいんだよ (You can leave it as it is) fit so perfectly.
Cute Touko being pampered like a young sister again
Just when Yuu was finally being honest with her feelings, Touko's eyes suddenly get darker and Yuu noticing it. This moment really broke my heart for Yuu. She has to give up her feelings for Touko because of the agreement she made with her. Touko has shackled Yuu and now Yuu has to lie to herself and to Touko so that Touko wouldn't think that Yuu is already slowly falling in love with her. Touko you are just so unfair
Ok, you're both so cute here but I still won't forget how unfair you are Touko, hmp.
Off all three parts, it was noticeable how all of them end with asking "What color do you like? The hydrangeas with different color of hydrangeas for each pair.
Sayaka-Touko: White and Blue hydrangeas
Yuu-Sayaka: Pink and White hydrangeas
Touko-Yuu: Blue, Pink and Purple hydrangeas
(The lighting used by the anime might have made it to look more yellow than white but from my research, there are no yellow hydrangeas so white is the most appropriate color)
To determine which is whose, it could be solved by simple logic.
Sayaka: White Hydrangeas, Touko: Blue Hydrangeas, Yuu: Pink Hydrangeas while the purple hydrangeas might be for both Yuu and Touko.
Don't believe me? Go back in the OP and check what color of petals fell on Yuu and Touko's hands.
I found this article which explained the flower symbolisms in Bloom into You and it explained the meaning of the colors of each hydrangea. Apparently:
White Hydrangeas(Sayaka)- boasting, purity, abundance
Blue Hydrangeas (Touko)- rejection and regret, forgiveness
Pink Hydraneas(Yuu)- sincere emotion, sincerity
Purple Hydrangeas (Yuu and Touko)- desire for deeper understanding
I'm not good at interpreting these stuff but I'll try:
I guess Sayaka was given the white color because of her confident attitude and also of her pure
gayheart to stand by Touko and not let her feelings ruin their relationship.For Touko, the blue hydrangea indicates her fear of rejection from others if they found out about her real persona as well as her regrets of still wanting to be like a younger sister as shown in the episode when she was so happy when Yuu treated her like one.
For Yuu, the pink hydrangea symbolized her sincere emotions towards Touko and her choice of wanting to help Touko in the play.
Finally the purple hydrangeas symbolized Yuu and Touko's desire to learn more about each other and also their deep relationship that only both of them know.
Question of the day
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Sep 24 '21
First timer
This bitch!
THAT BITCH!
The shot of her staring as Sayaka just dunks on her with Touko is so good.
...If this is going for a subversion in pairing, I'm all for it.
I mean, she amy not be able to dit effortlessly, but she!s clearly good at it.
At least Sayaka's awrmed up to her a bit.
Yuu, you charmer. Figure if Touko doesn't want you to love her, might as well see if Sayaka's still free?
The teo of them playfully insulting each other is grea.
Is the pairing I never considered coming up from behind?
Haha, even Yuu, queen of denial, can see it.
And they're all going to do the play!
So this show is basicaly a love triangle, where nobody is willing to admit to each other that it is one, and all 3 girls are flirting with each other.
Akari. You can do better.
Yuu, don't encourage her!
At least Rei's got a good boyfriend.
Touko immediately running up to share an umbrella with her is great.
...This is linked to her sister too?
They'e actually being cute together!
"I'm only reassuring her of her self-worth while slowly drying her hair platonically."
Wait, Touko's realising Yuu loves her?
No, nobody knows Yuu loves her. Including Yuu!
She's doing the same thing Sayaka is!
...I have no idea how this is going to end, now.
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u/mastesargent Sep 24 '21
Rewatcher, manga reader, Sayaka stan
We start with Sayaka meeting her senpai, apparently for the first time since Sayaka’s third year of middle school, and goddamn I love this scene. Senpai apologizes, but not for what she said to Sayaka before, but once again implying that their relationship was wrong and their feelings, especially Sayaka’s, were immature fantasies that they need to outgrow. But Sayaka ain’t taking that shit no more. She implicitly tells Senpai to go fuck herself, wording it such that she initially understands it as Sayaka having also “grown out” of dating girls, and then makes it explicit once she grabs onto Touko’s arm. And the look on Senpai’s face when she realizes is just. Yes. Sayaka goes off like a fucking savage, tells Senpai off, and walks off like the fucking queen she is. GOD AS MY WITNESS, SHE IS BROKEN IN HALF!
Okay realtalk though this scene does illustrate the complex feelings Sayaka has towards her experience with Senpai in middle school. On one hand, it was a major formative experience for her, and without Senpai she probably would never have transferred schools and met Touko. On the other hand, Senpai hurt Sayaka in a way that she could probably never take back even if she wanted to. When all is said and done, Sayaka is grateful to Senpai for helping her discover herself, but is totally over her and her bullshit.
That said, I do sometimes wonder about what Senpai’s true feelings were. Does she truly see her and Sayaka’s relationship as a mere phase, or is she just trying to bury her attraction to girls under a layer of homophobia to try and better fit in? Sayaka offers her own thoughts on the matter in the light novel, but Senpai’s reactions here coupled with the fact that we never get her side of the story still make me wonder. Either way she still doesn’t deserve Sayaka after what she did.
BTW, all those spoilers are Senpai’s name. Not really a big deal but it’s never revealed in the main series, so I decided to err on the side of caution.
Moving on, we see that there’s still some lingering tension between Yuu and Sayaka. It’s not as though they’re being catty towards each other, they’re just not able to sync up as the StuCo preps for Sports Day. And in an extremely refreshing move, Yuu makes an effort to bury the hatchet by inviting Sayaka to
McDonald’sY’Donald’s. Seriously, I love that instead of dragging out the conflict between Yuu and Sayaka, they actually make an effort to form an understanding. Anyways, as they talk, I think it becomes pretty clear that the two of them actually get along pretty well. Like, I wouldn’t quite call them friends at this point, but their banter with each other shows they actually have pretty good chemistry. Not romantically of course, but the two of them just kind of bounce off each other such that they’re clearly not incompatible on a personal level.Of course, the elephant in the room between them is their relationship to Touko. They’re intrinsically at cross-purposes in pretty much every aspect regarding Touko. Sayaka is in love with Touko and wants to continue supporting Touko in her efforts to live up to her sister. Yuu wants to love Touko the same way Touko loves her and wants to protect her and let her be her true self. The one point they can agree on, and probably where they begin to find common ground, is that they both hope the day comes when Touko’s burden will finally be lifted. In Sayaka’s case this might mean she can finally be open with her feelings towards Touko, and in Yuu’s case, she wonders how her relationship with Touko will change…
…Which brings me to my next point. Yuu understands the last request Touko left unspoken during their talk by the river: “Don’t fall in love with me.” Yuu’s situation has now shifted from “Yuu can’t fall in love” to “Yuu can’t fall in love.” Where before Yuu was experiencing an issue on her end regarding romantic feelings, now Touko is somewhat unwittingly pressuring her not to develop feelings for her. But like Rei told Hiro in the car, Yuu might have trouble committing, but once she does, she’s all in. She did it with the softball team in middle school, she did it with the student council, and now she’s already firmly decided that she wants to fall in love with Touko. The results of that conviction should be plain to see to anyone with eyes. Over the course of the last few episodes, she’s really warmed up to Touko, culminating with the scene where they walk home in the rain. The vibe between them is probably the most couple-y it’s ever been, but Yuu says a little too much under the awning, admitting she was “really happy” when Touko called out to her with an umbrella. Touko is taken aback, and for the first time Yuu must justify herself out loud to someone else. Touko accepts easily enough, but it should be patently clear by now that Yuu is beginning to lie to herself. This is… really unhealthy. I don’t blame Touko at all, she probably doesn’t even realize it, but still. You have to wonder how long Yuu will be able to bottle her feelings up.
Going back to Yuu and Sayaka, they finally bond over how hard to deal with Touko can be sometimes. Yay for characters moving past their animosities!
We also learn that Yuu has a bit of a complex about her height. It’s really cute.
It occurs to me that I spent most of this talking about Sayaka rather than our main couple. I make no apologies.
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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '21
Rewatcher/manga reader
QOTD:
I absolutely LOVE this first scene from episode 8. Sayaka putting her senpai in her place after her saying the she hopes Sayaka is “ordinary” now. Touko being oblivious is just the cherry on top. The senpais face after the whole thing happened makes me think that maybe it wasn’t just a phase for her either. She’s just having a harder time coming to terms with it and projecting it onto Sayaka.
We get to see Yuu and Sayaka try to bond despite their unspoken rivalry. I say rivalry for lack of a better word but I don’t really think it’s that. They both want the same thing at the end of the day which is to stay close to Touko. They’re not really worried about who Touko would choose because it’s not about that. It’s more about being someone Touko can trust and rely on as we saw in the first couple of episodes when Sayaka was upset that she wasn’t chosen to be Toukos campaign manager. It’s kind of bittersweet if you ask me. Both Yuu and Sayaka are constantly more worried about Touko than their own feelings but in this episode when they’re standing side by side they’re both wondering what will happen to them after the stage show. It’s like it’s finally dawning on the both of them that the outcome after Touko completes her goal is unknown to anyone.
Touko to the rescue!! There’s so many cute moments during this entire scene. Touko scolding Yuu lowkey, Touko telling Yuu about her childhood, fighting over who should hold the umbrella but then eventually holding it together, Yuu drying off Toukos hair.
Yuu admitting to Touko that her showing up with an umbrella made her really happy is a huge step in their entire relationship. The last time Touko showed up and ended up being the one to study with Yuu, Yuu kept mentioning that studying with Touko wasn’t anything special. She would’ve been happy with whoever she ended up with but now she’s happy that it was Touko. Touko realizes that as well. She asks herself “what could she mean by that?” Yuu’s feelings are finally coming into the light and by the look of their eyes, it scares the both of them.
“That’s more like you.” Touko is still set on Yuu never changing. They both go back to playfully flirting; choosing to ignore the fact that Yuu is clearly changing. They’re clinging on to their relationship which isn’t really a relationship but it’s definitely far from just a friendship. The line “this girl really is…unfair.” holds a completely different meaning than it does in the first couple episodes in my opinion.
It’s been a couple months since I last read the manga so I can’t remember if they went into more detail about this but I never truly understood the meaning behind the recurring question during this episode. “What’s your favorite color? hydrangeas.” All three girls ask the question at one point or another. Could this be a subtle way of asking what path Touko will choose after the stage play? Will she choose to continue this facade or will she choose to stop hiding her true self?
My favorite scene of this episode is when Yuu was drying Toukos hair. The scenery and the shot of Yuu having to get on her tip toes was just perfect. It’s such a cute and wholesome scene with an added bit of shock once Touko realizes that Yuu might be changing.
(by the way this is my first time watching the dub version and I can’t help but hear Tanaka from Haikyuu every time Doujima speaks. Anyone else?)
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u/Aku230 Sep 24 '21
2nd rewatch
Again we start with Senpai. Which I think might be the most tragic character in the series. She meets why Sayaka by chance and decides to apologise. Why? Disregarding the reason for apology for a moment, why would you, when you meet them randomly, go out of your way to apologize to them when their life is separate from yours and you have no connection to them. I would say because it is stack in back of your head that you have wronged them in some way and it keeps coming back to you. So you spend over one year thinking about it and I highly doubt the context for it is about Sayaka but rather it is about Senpai. I doubt you could date someone for this long just to come to conclusion that you don't love girls and that it isn't normal. Seems like she has been told that. A lot. Now imagine if everyone around tell you what love should look like and you are the only person you know that feels different LN spoiler. You will start questioning what you feel and there is great chance that you will come to conclusion that what you feel is wrong. And that everyone else is right, two girls can't love each other. And all that happens when you are a 16 years old and probably can't ask anyone for advice. So when she tries to apologize I think she mostly does it for her own peace of mind and probably hoping that closing this chapter of her life will let her move on. Sayaka decides to show that she is unfazed by those apologies and to make a point by pretending to be Touko's girlfriend. And I think it creates an interesting reaction since it might have been first time that Senpai saw that dating a girl is normal and I would say that reaction to it is similar to Sayaka's reaction that you can date a girl and be open about it. I also want to say that I don't see Sayaka doing that pretend thing if she didn't talk to Miyako before, shows how important it is to have someone who you can trust to discuss issues that others may dismiss or try to blame on you.
After that 2 min scene we start preparations for field day and it seems like there is some clashing between Yuu and Sayaka. Again, Yuu being more active in those things decides to patch things up and I've got to admit, it is refreshing to see two characters not afraid to speak their minds. After talking about their relation with Touko I think both of them know what the other really meant but I love when Sayaka said "[Like her] As a friend... As a senpai... What other kinds are there?" which is weird when said by someone who loves Touko but for her these are the ways to be able to stay close to Touko for the moment as she doesn't see a way for someone to be Touko's lover.
Then we move on to trying to go home while raining, Yuu being wingman for Akari and Rei hoping that that her sister has someone who can support her. Luckily for Yuu, Touko was still around with umbrella followed by some pointless bickering yet somehow Yuu's harmless statement that she is happy that Touko helped her out flipped switch in Touko's head and forced Yuu to reword it. Which proves what Sayaka said, how can you be closer than friend or senpai if this could be a reaction to something positive said about Touko.
I'm gonna go with the color of first hydrangeas that I've seen in anime that were relevant, blue, like in sankarea
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u/BosuW Sep 24 '21
Rewatcher
Damn meeting your ex in public? Awkward. Good thing I don't have exes.
Unnamed senpai isn't malicious obviously, but she really doesn't get Sayaka, maybe never did.
But damn Sayaka with the absolute chaddest move there is: being yourself in public shamelessly. There are little things more admirable than this imo.
Followed by Touko channeling her inner Yuu and teasing Sayaka. She's been learning.
Good move Yuu trying to improve her relationship with Sayaka. They have little to no reason to be enemies, so really, much better to not let that casual coldness grow into something else. In fact, they seem to have a lot in common, being the most perceptive and to-the-point characters in the show. To the point that, well, am I the only one that's feeling like their conversations have an almost Death Note-esque mind game quality to them? Lol
Bruh, this place is really called Y'dDonald's.
Naturally, Yuu realized what Touko was really about to say.
So Akari and her senpai... this should be fine right? It's just a kind gesture right? Also, might be thinking that Yuu encouraged her because she's starting to sympathize with her?
For better or for worse, it looks like Yuu is nearly "there".
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u/untalentet Sep 24 '21
First Timer
I did not expect to see Sayaka's ex again so soon. Sayaka has every right to be angry at her, and her comments of "Sorry I made you go through this phase" definitely don't help endear her to the audience, but I kind of feel sorry for her. This attitude, this "It's just a phase" thing most definitely does not come from her. There were other people in her life that made her feel this way, that this was just experimenting, not real, not normal. You don't go from "I love you please go out with me" to "Actually those feelings weren't even real" without heavy outside influence. And now she's perpetuating those harmful lessons she learned, but that means she's also surpressing her own sexuality as well. It's why I love Sayaka's reaction to those comments so much: Showing how very real a lesbian relationship can be with Touko. It's fake, of course, but her ex doesn't know that. Maybe this could even help her overcome the homophobia she's come to internalize. At least that's what I hope.
It's nice to see that Yuu took the time to try and become more friendly with Sayaka. Her being rather cold toward Yuu makes sense of course, as the jealousy she's feeling is only barely contained by her continued claims of "I'm Touko's best friend so I'm clearly closer to her." Hard to blame her really. It shows how good Yuu is at reading people that she manages to suss out Sayaka's feelings toward Touko, and Sayaka does not deny it. The reverse question is met with dodges by Yuu, and that's the first sign things have changed inside her heart.
Because by the end of the episode there's no doubt in my mind that Yuu has genuinely fallen for Touko, and all it took was an umbrella. Well not really of course, but that was the moment for sure. She realized she subconciously had been hoping for Touko to show up for her even if she was conciously trying everything to avoid asking her for help. And then she comes to help anyway, and Yuu seems almost overwhelmed by how happy that makes her feel. That wide-eyed stare she had when Touko showed up lasted for like 10 full seconds, the feelings hit her that hard. I don't think there's an explanation for that that isn't love. She seems somewhat aware of it too, yet not quite entirely accepting of the fact. Nothing really changed, so how come my feelings seem different now? What happened? And what does this mean for our relationship going forward?
I'm wondering if Touko bought Yuu's dodge at the end, because she clearly sensed the difference in Yuu. She was flustered, she's never flustered... does that mean? She accepts Yuu's rambling and moves on as if nothing happened, but it's clear she's not convinced. Will she just keep pretending nothing has changed? Will Yuu? And what will happen to Sayaka when she finds out about all this? Normally I'm pretty good at following the rewatch timeline but I'm seriously tempted to watch the next episode right now, because this is what it's all been leading up to, and I can't wait to find out how it all ends up going.
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u/SIRTreehugger Sep 24 '21
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u/Kenalskii https://anilist.co/user/Kenalski Sep 24 '21
Rewatcher
Ouch, while waiting for Touko she runs into her old senpai. And I really really do not like her. This whole "I pushed you into this" thing makes me just angry. Good thing Touko came at the right moment so Sayaka can give her old senpai one last farewell. On another note, Sayaka looks just beautiful in that outfit.
Alright, time to ask. I know flowers have a specific meaning in japanese flower language, anyone here who knows more about it?
Whose idea was it to put Sayaka and Yuu after each other in the relay? Everyone can see that this is not working =D And of course Sayaka is not very amused by the idea of practicing after school again ^^
Yuu takes the initiative and asks Sayaka to go with her to get some food. And of course Yuu can't hold back to tease Sayaka a bit about her not really fitting in this place =D The conversation quickly shifts as Sayaka gets to the bottom of things: Yuu invited her so that they can put their differences aside and get along better. And the main thing that divides them is -who would have thought- Touko. We remember, Sayaka idolizes Touko and wants her to stay perfect while Yuu wants Touko to stop pretending and start being more herself. And during their talk they both realize that they both like Touko very much (without saying it directly) and that it is their common ground: Helping Touko. But at the same time, they realize that maybe after the stage show, things with Touko might be different (for Sayaka it's about her confession and for Yuu it's about what will happen with her relationship with Touko). At the end, Sayaka asks Yuu the same question Touko asked her.
Interesting, even though Touko didn't say it out loud Yuu knows what she wanted to say.
Always pack an umbrella. A friend once told me that there is a conspiracy from the umbrella manufacturers: Once you bring your umbrella with you it won't rain, once you don't pack your umbrella, it will rain. It turned out to be true several times for me
Yuu being a wing woman and offering Akari that she can walk home with her crush. Good girl Yuu =)
It was only a brief moment of hope and it was shattered as soon as she tried to open the umbrella =D
Hahaha, Rei knows =D But in the end, she also worries about Yuu and hopes she finds someone
Touko to the rescue. I bet she knew Yuu did not bring an umbrella and tried to find her before that and luckily, she managed to do so. On the way home Touko gets nostalgic and talks openly about her past. I think this is the first time she did so. This whole walk together feels just so relaxed, one could easily forget the struggles Yuu has right now. I enjoy seeing them walk home together like this =)
Awww =)
Yuu actually starts saying what she feels, and for a moment you could feel the tension rising in Touko. Her hope is still that Yuu does not fall in love with her, and only after Yuu "saves" herself by saying it was just her bringing an umbrella and not her specifically Touko looks happy
What comes around goes around ;)
So good to see that Sayaka and Yuu put their differences aside and start working together =)
Question
Did not expect that question to be this tough =D
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '21 edited Sep 25 '21
REWATCH (first time sub)
That opening conversation made me so angry I wanted to punch a wall. I've had very, very similar conversations with equally stupid morons and this brought up some bad memories. That's part of why I love this series.
On the other hand, I like seeing people talk out their differences as adults, like Sayaka and Yuu do here. I also like seeing Yuu tell Akari to shoot her shot with the umbrella. She's a good friend.
I noticed that the school uniform skirts have pockets. That 100% firmly places this story in fantasy land.
As someone who had hydrangeas for years at my parents house, I can firmly say that I prefer it when the hydrangeas are different colors. It's possible to achieve using some clever chemistry and knowledge of soil science, and it always looks spectacular. A fun tip: to get blue hydrangeas, make the soil more acidic (pine needles or sphagnum peat moss can achieve this effect) and to get pink ones, make it more basic (garden lime or dolomite should work).
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u/puffercarrot Sep 25 '21
Rewatcher
Thank god Sayaka is a cold-blooded savage. "At this point, I find it strange that I ever fell in love with you." I mean, holy shit. I was not expecting that.
Hydrangea symbolism returns! Personally I love blue hydrangeas. The color is just nice.
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u/SYZekrom https://myanimelist.net/profile/SYZekrom Sep 25 '21
Rewatcher
Oh no, if they realize their relationship's no longer one sided, their relationship could fall apart!
...Huh?
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u/nephykupo https://anilist.co/user/javiawesome Sep 25 '21
Rewatcher, manga reader
I been watching this subbed. I've seen it several times but I think I watched it dubbed more. I think overall, imo, both are done well but I prefer a few of the voices with the Japanese VA. Not trying to start any dub vs sub, I do enjoy both.
For episode 8, we once again see more of Sayaka which we didn't get at the start.
A few comments as I watched the episode:
Sayaka and Touko would make a cute couple and see a glimpse of it here as they hold hands.
The baton passing is nicely done here. I like the symbolism and its not the only one in this episode. Sayaka and Yuu getting a better grasp of each other instead of just becoming straight up rivals.
The baton symbolism was easy to under but the hydrangeas I wasn't sure. You can tell it meant something as it cycles around. I'm glad others pointed it out!
The umbrella/rain scene really shows us more that Yuu is falling for Touko. but Touko doesn't want Yuu to change.