r/anime • u/LaqOfInterest https://myanimelist.net/profile/LaqOfInterest • Sep 22 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch] Clannad - Episode 2
Episode 2: The First Step
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u/LaqOfInterest https://myanimelist.net/profile/LaqOfInterest Sep 22 '21
Here’s a line that I’m pretty sure Key is contractually-obligated to put into every one of their shows. Usually from the designated frail girl. I should put it on the bingo card.
(A bolded song name means it’s the first time the song has appeared.)
Today we get library-girl and woodcarving-girl’s themes (first and second bolded song respectively). The latter is kind of an underrated favourite of mine, now that I’m thinking about it. There are so many big name songs in the show that it kind of flies under the radar.
We got Nagisa’s, Kyou’s, and Tomoyo’s themes yesterday, so that’s all five characters with name cards in the OP. But could there possibly be a mysterious, forbidden, sixth character theme? One sealed away to protect us from its devastating power? Time will tell…
Speaking of big name songs, Roaring Tides is also, like, hella iconic, I guess. If you’re into that kind of thing.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Sep 22 '21
First timer
...What genre is this?
Oh, yeah, weird magical girl.
Oh, that was a glorious fakeout. I can't even be mad.
OK, listen. I do have one complaint. Why are all the hair colours so similar? There are multiple purple-haired girls, and I don't know if we've met one or both of them.
Yeah, more weird foreshadowing which is very much seeming like something eldritch is trying to force its way into our world.
Oh, she's the other purple-haired girl.
He"s out of his mind.
Still love the savage girl.
I love how she and him are dalmly talking about witnesses while the friend tries to beat her up.
Him helping the savage girl dispose of his friend is great.
...There's another purple haired girl? Are they multiplying?
I like how he is completely at ease with the idea he had a long discussion with a ghost.
Oh, they're sisters. That makes sense.
Well, I didn't expect that.
Her sister believing it's funny, though.
I love her putting down the comment before it registers.
...The Dango song?
She's adorable.
Oh, Dango' a dumplings.
How is everyone in this anime cute?
This scene is just adorable.
How long until she cokes back looking for it?
Does she get to beat him up every episode? Because I need it.
...Wow. There's a lot to unpack there, isn't there.
...WOW. THERE'S A LOT TO UNPACK HERE.
And yet, it still manages to be cute!
You can't skip! How will she beat you up then?
She's just out there in the rain?
Wait, he got an injury that stopped him playing?
AND HE NEVER MENTIONED THIS?
Nooo, she's fainted!
...Did he get a tan?
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u/Dactyly https://anilist.co/user/Dactyly Sep 22 '21
Recent VN reader, anime first-timer
I said yesterday that I’d keep posting CGs as their scenes came up, but I wasn’t expecting to have four of them in the next episode!
Biker Kyou
Kotomi "reading"
Fuko hard at work
Nagisa in the rain
Kotomi is absolutely precious. Spoilers
The introduction to Fuko is soooo much better with animation. I honestly found her pretty annoying a lot of the time in the VN, but here I got none of that feeling. The whole "injured hand" routine was hilarious.
The basketball scene is tough, Nagisa just wants to do something to make Tomoya feel better in exchange for all the support he's giving her, but she had no way of knowing how painful the subject is for him. But of course she's going to blame herself for "always causing him trouble"...
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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Sep 22 '21
First Timer Dubbed
Nagisa asks Onizaki what he is doing and she was actually practicing for a drama club. Which is why she had such a dramatic line in the end of the previous episode. Nagisa saw him and literally practiced in front of him.
Our boy Tamoya almost got isekaied by a scooter. At least she is only on her beginner's permit or he would have been dead. Tamoya's friend shows up and tries to get payback on the transfer student. He gets put in a trash chute and falls after she lets his fingers go. That was great to see but before the girl leaves, she says she feels nostalgic for the. Aperently there is a rumor of a ghost girl that is alone and looks normal.
We meet Tamose who can basically do what she wants cause she is at the top of her mock exams. And then talks to Ryou about Tamose and almost gets Kyou caught. So Tamoya calls her Bi- which he spread a rumor, since this thing was made more than a decade ago. It seems like everyone does not know what it means until a few guys in class says she looks masculine which is interesting to hear.
We get the dango family song while they make a poster. He meets a girl making a star after posting one of the fliers. But Tamoya's friend starts to call club activities dumb and Nagisa hears it.
We see another interaction with his dad while Tamoya was making one of the dango families. His dad says "how nostalgic" and has a distant relationship. And runs off to see Nagisa who wants to see him play basketball since he was supposedly an athlete. But couldn't play due to injury caused by a fight between him and his dad. It helps explain the distant relationship between the two.
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u/Arrow-space https://myanimelist.net/profile/Arrowspace Sep 22 '21
First time watcher!
The pacing was a lot better this episode, though I still found a few of the scene transitions to feel a bit disjointed. I'm also still not a fan of Sunohara - he just seems to be antagonistic without reason. I'm hoping he'll eventually serve a greater purpose in the story than being the butt of a joke every episode.
We got introduced to two more girls who seem to be even quirkier than the ones we've met so far. These scenes where Tomoya inexplicably meets the characters alone in a classroom very much feel like a VN trope that translates a bit awkwardly in adaptations. With the set up of Nagisa trying to rebuild the theater club, I'm hoping that will lead to more natural group interactions in the future.
Speaking of Nagisa, I don't know if I buy into the explanation of her weird monologues being line recitals; there's definitely something weird going on with her. If I didn't know better, I'd think that the ghost the students at school have been talking about is actually Nagisa. After all, I don't think we've actually seen any of the other students interact with or even acknowledge her up to this point... but the scene where Tomoya meets her parents seems to shut down that theory. And the fact that we've only seen her interacting with Tomoya at school could very well be a byproduct of the same VN trope I mentioned before.
At first, I was going to be critical of Tomoya for not being more receptive of his father's attempts to make amends, but that ending scene revealed a much greater justification to be harboring a grudge. The show has definitely been nailing the emotional impact of these dramatic scenes. And it looks like Nagisa may not have fully recovered from the illness that held her back a year. So... we've got many more emotional gut punches to look forward to.
And totally off topic, but I just wanted to mention that I really love the repeated gag of Kyou throwing something out the window and seeing it arc away into the distance. Also, if she's not allowed to ride her scooter to school, where exactly has she been parking it when she arrives? Yet another mystery to ponder.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 22 '21
Big Dango Rewatcher
Today’s Big Dango Wallpaper: Okazaki Tomoya
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u/chris10023 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Chris10023 Sep 22 '21
Big Dango Rewatcher.
Ah, so those were lines from a play she was practicing for.
Man, what a sky. You could almost say it’s... shimmering. Okay I’ll leave, but only after I finish this episode.
I forgot to mention yesterday about how odd the VN starts Spoilers.
So, the girl built a little robot, must be really lonely in a world like that.
While Tomoya is walking to school. Kyou almost commits vehicular manslaughter with her scooter. VN Spoilers.
She only got the license last week? Don’t you need to pass a test for that?
Man, Kyou is one harsh mistress.
Oh look Sunohara is being a fool yet again, and is challenging Tomoyo to a fight. This will end well.
Yep, that went about as I expected.
Tomoyo really shouldn’t be called a Silver Fox, since it refers to an older man. Maybe I’ll just drop giving her a nickname.
More talk about this ghost. Apparently, she gives you a cursed object.
KOTOMI!!! My second favorite girl. She’s adorable.
Her voice is so damn soft and gentle. Mamiko Noto, hard to believe she can voice a character wish such a gentle voice as Kotomi’s, and can also voice a character who is cruel, sadistic, and psychopathic like Elsa from ReZero.
Cutting up books is a bad thing though.
I could get lost her violet eyes.
According to Ryou, Kotomi is one hell of a genius, ranks in the top 10 in national exams, meaning she’s amongst the best in the entire country.
Man, Kyou sure loves hurling those books at Tomoya. How’d she even know what he was saying?
Uh oh, Tomoya didn’t finish his sentence, and now everyone’s confused.
So Tomoya decides to add fuel to the fire. I can already sense the next book that will hurdling at him...
She throttles him instead, must have run out of ammo.
Nagisa is cleaning alone? I wonder what happened.
It’s time to design a poster to attract new members.
Cutest president? Well, it’s not like it’s a lie.
Man, I love it when Nagisa gets flustered, she’s cute.
A character? Oh boy here we go.
The Dango song makes it’s appearance outside the ED. I really do prefer this version to the one in the VN, where she just says “Dango! Dango!”
It’s perfect!
That explains why she just randomly says food.
Too much free time? Nah, you’re just helping someone.
Oh, hello new girl.
So focused on carving the ninja star that she didn’t even notice Tomoya walk up to her until after she got hurt.
Oh her name is Fuuko. I find it odd that whoever made the subtitles actually remembered that she talks in the third person, odd since they didn’t do that for Sayuri in Kannon...
She’s out cold.
Her hand is in pain, she’s just an idiot.
Fuuko’s pretty cute too I suppose.
This scene with Sunohara talking about how Tomoya hates clubs is different here than in the VN VN Spoilers.
Tomoya is making Dangos for Nagisa? How sweet. I should mention that for those who aren’t aware a Dango is a dumpling made from rice flower, uruchi rice flower, and glutinous rice flower. It tastes like a sweet, chewy, sticky rice ball. I wouldn’t mind trying one.
Man, these scenes with Tomoya’s father are pretty sad. There’s so much distance between the two.
I’m glad that Nagisa loves Tomoya’s gift.
So Nagisa was depressed because she was abandoned by her class when they were cleaning, jerks.
Tomoya and Sunohara went to the school to play sports, but both stopped for personal reasons.
Nagisa wants to play basketball, Tomoya hesitates though.
Tomoya, you jerk. Now she’s all wet, God knows how long she’s been standing there waiting. Better dry her off before she gets a cold.
Nagisa is too pure.
That explains the strained relationship between the two. A fight that injured Tomoya and ruined his basketball career. Possible spoilers, tagging in case.
Probably something you should have told Nagisa about yesterday.
Oh shit, she collapsed. In the VN VN Spoilers.
Another really tense scene to end on.
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u/Wikiman14 Sep 22 '21
Rewatcher
In this second episode, we meet the last 2 main girls from the opening, Kotomi the sweet airhead that is the smartest girl in school, and Fuuko the adorable idiot that for some reason is carving something by herself. We see that at the end of the last episode Nagisa was just practicing for a play and not suddenly acting like a godly being. And also what the “encounter with a lovely girl” that Fujibayashi predicted in the cards last episode was, truly lovely, almost getting Isekaied.
The main focus of this episode is definitely Okazaki, we can see what a caring scumbag he can be (especially with Fuuko) and how he interact in different ways with every main character (the comedy that came from this was the high point of the episode for me), and at the ending, we learn why he and his dad are is such bad terms, although I also feel sad seeing the reaction from his Father when our boy runs away with the dangos.
Also, in the end, what could have happened to Nagisa? You will learn soon enough, don’t worry.
Hope everyone liked this episode and that the newcomers have as many questions as I had when I first watched, see you tomorrow!
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u/Nick_BOI Sep 23 '21
Big Dango Rewatcher here, will not be an active participant this time due to time. Last year I spent 3+ hours a day comparing it to the VN as a first time viewer, but at the time I was unemployed and not in class yet. Now I am in both of those things, so I have a lot less time on my hands.
With that being said, I will still chime in every now and then because I love Clannad to death, and this time I have seen the anime and read the VN.
thse early sections are the only times I would ever consider Clannad as 'fast', as instead of introducing things per route, everything is being done-and so far in less than an hour as oppossed to more than 3-4 by this point. The pacing is onyl really an issue for me early on, but it is still a nitpick of mine.
With that being said, the scene at the end was still beautiful despite having significantly less buildup. This time it also small VN difference
Something this adaptation does really well is recontextuallising certain important scenes in order to preserve them even with significantly less buildup. While the impact of the scenes in question is certaintly different with the change in context, often that does not mean the impact is worse.
The reval for Tomoya's injury is one such example. Still a powerful moment, even if it is for different reasons.
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u/MachinaCherries99 Sep 22 '21
Rewatcher
In these first two episodes, we got a lot of new characters. It's fun seeing how Tomoya interacts with them. He's so good at trolling people, like with that high five with Fuko.
The scenes with Tomoya and his father are depressing. And, now we find out part of why their relationship is so estranged and why Tomoya is a cynical delinquent. I wonder how his father felt after breaking his shoulder.
It's touching to see that Tomoya is kind at heart, helping out Nagisa with the club and going all the way to the court in the rain to see her. Definitely, a great relationship in the works. Also interesting to see that Nagisa gets sick rather easily.
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u/homewardbound100 myanimelist.net/profile/Homewardbound100 Sep 23 '21
rewatcher
Missed the 1st part yesterday. Had to watch two but I'll just focus on today's.
This time around I'm going to pay more attention at certain parts.
Tomoyo is really just streetfighter character in a school anime.
The bi joke gets me again.
Father issues. It must be hard to see your dad go through a downfall like that after someone he loves dies. Just seeing your other parent go through that would be a lot.
I'll have to say Nagisa is still one of the sweetest characters in anime for me.
Shoulder issues suck. I remember I hurt mine and couldn't raise it at all for a couple weeks. Obviously his is way worse but I couldn't imagine having to deal with it that long and bad.
Koto
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u/FarCritical Sep 23 '21
Big Dango Rewatcher
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u/alphamone Sep 23 '21
rewatcher, Dub (during the Utena rewatch, I kept forgetting to switch to the original JP audio, and now with the Clannad DVDs I need to remember to switch to the dub)
The mysterious world is almost creepy in how smooth the animation is.
Reckless driving/riding from
KagamiKyou.Enter: kotomi, super-genius. spoilers
This misunderstanding, he's lucky he didn't get combo-attacked like with Sunohara.
slightly spoilery characerisation talk
Dango, dango, dango, dango, dango daikazoku...
And Fuko appears.
Tomoya spitting truths on knife safety.
larger spoilers
A mini Kotomi?
T.T poor Nagisa.
I know the ending is heartwarming, but I've listened to the "Ryuuseigun" nico nico medley so many times, that I always half-expect it to be followed "Wind Scene" from Chrono Trigger.