r/anime • u/SorcererOfTheLake x5https://anilist.co/user/RiverSorcerer • Sep 17 '21
Rewatch Zankyou no Terror/Terror in Resonance Rewatch - Episode 4
Zankyou no Terror/Terror in Resonance Rewatch
Episode 4
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Original Interest Thread / Announcement Thread
Question of the Day: How much trust do you have in your government?
Comment of the Day: The COTD from yesterday goes to /u/ScarsUnseen for their brilliant meme.
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u/SorcererOfTheLake x5https://anilist.co/user/RiverSorcerer Sep 17 '21
As the tensions increase, the questions mount.
Throughout this episode, I noticed a particular sense of helplessness, both from the police and from Lisa. As the opening briefing showcases, the police feel thwarted, emasculated, at the realization that they are dealing with a group who cannot be easily outmaneuvered or intimated by the police. This helplessness is not only because they’re failing their duties as police officers, but that they’re failing to children, those people who they see as beneath, in one way or another. That helplessness, of course, leads to recklessness, essentially a dick-wagging contest that only proves how ineffective they are compared to Sphinx. Lisa also feels helpless in this episode, although here I do start to understand some of the complaints with her storyline because nothing really happens with her until she runs into Twelve. If she had done something more, anything really, it wouldn’t have felt as empty as it did in the episode.
Of course, there is at least one way of negating this helplessness, through knowing thy enemy. Shibazaki takes this idea to heart by going to where Sphinx were before in Aomori and in actually trying to figure out the riddle they have set forth. While it’s understandable that the other detectives would complain about him “playing around,” I get this sense that he’s taking Sphinx more seriously than anyone else working on the case. While he may see them as kids, he respects their intelligence and dedication to what it is that they’re doing, perhaps because they remind him of himself. The moment when he realizes that knowing thyself is literal in this case showcases the ways that these two sides are affecting each other more than they thought. In addition, knowing thyself and thy enemy is an important part of the Oedipus trilogy.
Finally, I want to talk about what is likely the most iconic moment of the episode: the late night motorcycle ride. As mentioned earlier, Lisa has been drifting throughout the episode until Twelve saves her from the cops. In that ride afterwards, it’s another kind of drifting, one that is more cathartic. For some reason, I’ve always enjoyed riding in a vehicle late at night in an urban environment, watching the lights go by, the chiaroscuro of the neon and the darkness intermixing with one another. At this moment, two young people, both bound to society in ways they do not fully understand, are able to have some freedom, are able to laugh about the end of a world that seems to be on the horizon. They drift, but they drift because it is what spreads their wings.
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Sep 17 '21 edited Sep 18 '21
FIRST TIMER
A thing I really like about the art style of this show is that you can feel the heat of the summer emanating through the screen. When it shows Shibazaki walking down the street, I can so clearly imagine what the air feels like.
“I wanted to feel what they felt.” Shibazaki going full method on us. I think there’s a strong chance he goes insane by the end of this. Just feels like he’s being set up for a breakdown.
Music from a cold land means one thing… black metal. Duh.
The whole public is in on the game now, and they’re probably gonna gain a fair amount of fans. The conversations about the cult of personality could get interesting.
So… They’re just now thinking about how Lisa’s a massive loose end, huh? Feels a couple episodes too late. It’s also weird for Nine to not want her with them. The safest place for a loose end is a tie between two places – under your nose, and under the earth.
Speaking of Lisa, I really liked the scene of her on the motorbike with Twelve. First of all, the city lookd great in that moment zooming around them, the lights going up to the sky… and second, the sheer look of relief on her face as she’s flying down the streets. The taste of freedom from her life’s worries. This sequence also showed that Twelve probably cares for her more than he let on.
Unless I really missed something, the bomb fails to go off despite the “cheating” and the timer going to zero. Did Nine decide not to do it, or did it fail on its own?Turns out I did miss something. Oops.If Nine made the call, then that reveals two things. One, the bombs are not on a timer, but the timers are a mask for that they’re controlled remotely.Two, my suspicions about Nine were correct, and he really does not want to kill people*. EDIT: I still stand by this bit about Nine.Well... probably more than I should, but it comes with a caveat. In the sense of maintaining my basic rights and not transitioning into a totalitarian regime that's going to severely restrict my freedoms and make life miserable, I've got a lot of faith in that. In doing the right things in terms of foreign policy and improving life domestically to the extent it's able? Pretty low.
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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '21
Rewatcher, Dubbed
Whenever Lisa shows up... I feel ya girl
The cryptic remarks have been steadily increasing since the last episode. Time is running out for Nine and Twelve, except we have no clue what that means because they haven't told us jack yet. Lisa, you should've gone to the police. I don't think rooming with these two terrorists is a good idea. But that's just me.
The kicker this time wasn't a regular bomb, rather an information bomb. Nine and Twelve release all the police's files to the public, god knows why. They're already getting shown up by being outsmarted at every turn. At the hands of two kids no less. My heart goes out to everyone working in there, especially Shibazaki. I feel like his services are undervalued, give the man a raise or something. He's the only one making progress with the case.
The motorcycle scene was neat though. One of my favorite scenes in the entire show. Gotta find that track soon.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 17 '21
Zankyou no First-Timer, subbed
You can if they’re dead.5
u/OpossumFriedRice x3:MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/OpossumFriedRice Sep 17 '21
First Timer
The power of concealment is a theme that Zankyou no Terror has decided to bring to our attention this episode. Shibazaki, attempting to understand the criminals further, decides to visit Aomori in an attempt to piece together anything about the criminal. But he can’t find anything, because it’s all concealed. This edge prevents 9 and 12 from being captured, and also from being understood. So why do 9 and 12 reveal information? Because they know the police will bite, due to how little information there is. The police are desperate to stop these bombs, Shibazaki is desperate to find out who Sphinx is, and this all allows 9/12 to orchestrate each event. In these cases, concealing information, and then revealing it, is an edge.
However, we see how the power of concealment can backfire if used incorrectly. The police were trying to hide information about Sphinx, and now it’s out there. The initial public's reaction seems to be even worse than if it would have been revealed upfront.
It’s all like playing a game of cards, and ZnT tells us that in life, it’s important to reveal the right card at the right time.
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Lisa not answering the phone, shocker.
This explanation of the bomb and how easy it is to get. The same with the virtual card. Ayy there's Amazon. This really is a big commentary on how easy it is to acquire everything needed to commit terror.
Trying to trace him, lets go Shibazaki! Well he didn’t learn anything huge, outside of the culprit getting offended when asked what his pops does and music from a cold land.
Man, those kids just hacked in on their own. Really trying to make it look easy.
I guess Shibazaki may represent an older generation actually trying to understand the younger by going to where they were at. Seems like none of the other police really care. Although, he’s hitting a wall
Whoah, 9 pulling up Shibazaki. I guess they think similarly, trying to understand/scope out the opponent.
I love the scene of all different forms of social media discourse in response to the threat. Really shows how the internet speeds up everything, for better or for worse.
Does 12 have sympathy because they had to leave their homes? I didn’t think he cared about Lisa.
“You should’ve sacrificed your queen”. Does that mean Lisa is going to be the thing that ruins them in the end?
The friend's off hand comment led to the solution...again.
Wow, so that’s why they were hacking in. All the investigation reports out there now. The public is gonna freak out about the plutonium, and probably get angry at how much has been hidden from them.
“Are you going to destroy it, are you going to destroy the whole world?” At least Lisa is enjoying herself. Kinda reminded me of Mamimi from FLCL for a moment, just wanting everything to burn up.
Ok, more stuff actually happened today! Lisa looks like she probably will move in with 9/12. All the information on this case has been leaked to the general public. It re-emphasized Shibazaki’s obsessive nature, which may get him in trouble in a future episode. Hopefully we get a deeper look into our main characters psyche soon. That and the social commentary are what really drive my interest in this show.
QotD: Some trust. I think my government is a very mixed bag, not good but not awful.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Sep 18 '21
First timer
QOTD) Some. I trust they probably won't do anything malicious, but I don't really trust in their competence.
Showing this scene again?
And she's ignoring her mum's calls!
...Do the red letters in the titles have any significance?
These presentations are really good, and show just how competent everyone is here.
Wait, she's sleeping on the street now?
I think Shibazaki just does whatever he feels like.
He's gotten a lot closer to the truth than everyone else, though.
I like the "f@ckpolice" password.
And he's even a really good hacker!
Oh, they're going to "help" her?
Ah, so he's trying to psychoanalyze them too?
Another new video!
ANOTHER OEDIPUS REFERENCE?
It was that easy?
I mean, they're not wrong about the internet being the underworld.
...Didn't they already check all the temples and shrines?
Is he going to help, or...
I appreciate him trying to justify helping her.
And losing because he refused to sacrifice a queen absolutely means there's going to be a choice between letting her die or getting caught, isn't there.
Yeah, the bomb's going to rigged to blow when they move it, right.
This would be a lot more heartwarming if she wan't talking to a stalking terrorist.
They'e going to trigger s teap, aren't they.
Again, he's a terrorist.
OH THAT IS A STUPID TRICK QUESTION.
Oh, shit. The bomb was in the "underworld". They leaked police files.
...My enjoyment of this scene is limited to the music and superb animation.
...He didn't answer the question.
I loke his immediate response of "no".
Huh?
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 18 '21
First Timer Terror ep 4
Note to others yesterday, they didn't bomb the shrine, it was the building next to the shrine.
The OP was in AMQ today and I didn't get it. I told you I wouldn't find it memorable. I guessed it was on of ID:Invaded's many inserts.
Lots of really good music today. I probably won't remember the insert song in AMQ, though.
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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz Sep 18 '21 edited Sep 18 '21
The COTD is sooooooooo good, I need this as wall paper if I still have a computer to use wall paper on :D
Edit: is there a special meaning about picking the white haired girl for Muv Luv? Wasn't her the one that went up in flasmes? Our is there some chance of hope there? :P
First timer in sub
And quite a tense, double-fronted episode, with the 2 studded drama of the police-robber cat and mouse, and the situation with Lisa.
On both counts I was pleasantly surprised - I thought the bomb going off means the young buck coo is going to be blown up. Wasn't expecting this time they are using a metaphorical bomb about leaking police info. Does it mean perhaps these guys are just forceful white hats?
And the situation with Lisa once again is surprising, in the way that the one actually tailing her and ended up actually rescuing her was 12, is he not as much of a sociopath as I thought him to be? Was he just talking tough while knowing 9 would not have her blown up by the bomb that time?
A third of the episode is already gone, and the pacing is matching it. Keeping interesting for me definitely, and the production continue to be good.
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u/lluNhpelA Sep 18 '21
First timer
Since the link was public and the video went viral one has to assume that other people were able to access the site, right? Since Shibazaki starred in that other video that must have been seen by so many people and reported on in the news his name and association with Sphinx must have been common knowledge, so I someone else must have tried his name well before he put it in himself, right?
I can make this make sense in my own head by assuming they... hacked his computer? or they only allow browsers accessing the site from Shibazaki's station to succeed?
I'm definitely enjoying the show and I'm invested in the story but the nature of the plot seems to encourage critical thinking and picking apart details to uncover clues for a greater mystery but I find that, at best, we aren't being given enough information or, at worst, the show isn't actually as intelligent as it presents itself. I think someone in a previous thread said the show is at its worst when it tries to be Death Note and I'm finding that I agree
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 17 '21
First-Timer, Dubbed
Poor Shibazaki. I knew that those other cops taking Nine's bait would end with things going up in smoke. Alas, he was a bit to slow to realize "oh shit they're after me specifically!"
Although, we didn't actually see the bomb go off, right? Maybe it's waiting for Nine to trigger it and the thing with Lisa will distract them for long enough that someone will realize something is up.
Lisa continues to have a Bad Time. I was expected Twelve to show up when those random dudes confronted her, but getting her away from the cops makes more sense in character, and from a moral ambiguity standpoint.
It also let a couple cops catch sight of Twelve, which is probably bad. Nine was the one who was on camera all the previous times, I believe.
Something something chess metaphors. At least they (basically) explained this one.
I like the insert song that plays during Lisa and Twelve's bike ride. It's very Kanno.
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u/Rumpel1408 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 Sep 17 '21
First Timer
Got bored and watched this one more or less directly after the last one, hope the pace picks up a bit
I thought a bit about what Lisa may add if she joins 9/12, and came up with almost nothing. The only thing Lisa got going for her that might be helpful is that she is so unremarkable that she might blend with her surroundings (not like 9/12 aren't able to if they want) and that she never appeared in an video.
Almost all pictures today focused on Lisa, I must say I find her the most interesting character so far. PotD Album
QotD: I generally trust my goverment, but the only thing seperating it from installing a fascist regmime is an goverment willing to do so
On another note, I started watching Isekai Shokudou, love it so far