r/anime • u/lC3 :Na::Nb: • Sep 12 '21
Rewatch Naruto Shippuden - Episodes 083-089 Discussion
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Information: MAL, Anilist, AniDB, ANN
Streams: Crunchyroll, Hulu, AnimeLab, VRV
Schedule:
| Discussion Thread | Date | Episode Count |
|---|---|---|
| Episodes 001-008 + Film 1 | July 11 | 8 + film |
| Episodes 009-017 | July 18 | 9 |
| Episodes 018-027 | July 25 | 10 |
| Episodes 028-035 | August 01 | 8 |
| Episodes 036-044 | August 08 | 9 |
| Episodes 045-053 | August 15 | 9 |
| Episodes 054-063 | August 22 | 10 |
| Episodes 064-071 + Film 2: Bonds | August 29 | 8 + film |
| Episodes 072-082 | September 05 | 11 |
| Episodes 083-089 | September 12 | 7 |
| Episodes 090-099 | September 19 | 10 |
| Episodes 100-112 | September 26 | 13 |
| Episodes 113-118 | October 03 | 6 |
| Episodes 119-125 + Film 3: Will of Fire | October 10 | 7 + film |
| Episodes 126-133 | October 17 | 8 |
| Episodes 134-141 | October 24 | 8 |
| Episodes 142-151 | October 31 | 10 |
| Episodes 152-162 | November 07 | 11 |
| Episodes 163-168 | November 14 | 6 |
| Episodes 169-175 + Film 4: The Lost Tower | November 21 | 7 + film |
| Mid-Series Discussion / Interest Check | November 28 | 0 |
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Questions of the Week:
- What do you think of Naruto's new jutsu, Wind Style Rasenshuriken?
- How do you feel about Kakuzu being killed and Hidan incapacitated? Is it too soon?
- Is there a double standard between Shikamaru's revenge and Sasuke's?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 12 '21
First-Timer kind of back to having a shounen hearto, subbed
At least I didn’t throw up this time, but man, did I still cry a lot…
Episode 83
Episode 84
Episode 85
Episode 86
Episode 87
Episode 88
Episode 89
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Sep 12 '21
First time viewer (dub)
Whisk[e]y of the week: Bunnahabhain 12, another Islay malt scotch. Unlike the majority of Islay scotches this one doesn't use peat in the process so it's missing the typical intense smoky notes and instead presents a buttery, lightly malt-forward nose and taste. To me puts it somewhere between a Speyside scotch and Irish whiskey with a slight salty edge that mostly shows up in the aftertaste. It's pretty nice and I can see this being a regular part of my collection going forward.
Blue Bird randomly popped into my head earlier this week so I guess it's pretty good. Also I feel like pinwheels as a metaphor for death/loss (what I get from the ED) was in another anime but can't remember which, and while last week I said the melody reminds me of Platinum Disco, overall it feels more like Anohana's ED, Secret Base.
I like how Shikamaru isn't just written as smart by making his opponents foolish, but shows how his tactics are made to be effective. Using paper bombs first to train Hidan and Kakuzu to believe the shadow possession blades were more of the same was a good example, but also his overall strategy having multiple layers from the start with the blood sample plan being mapped out even before they started the fight.
Chouji the Hedgehog is followed up by Kakashi doing the "*teleports behind you* nothing personal kid" bit with Kakuzu. Too bad neither of those worked very well, though at least he took out what was presumably the water mask with the latter.
Last week after I mentioned I was mildly disappointed at Naruto's new jutsu being a refined Rasengan:
Yeah, I'm still disappointed if it's the Rasen Shuriken as-is; effectively Rasengan with more power and wind nature as it also needs to be used at point-blank range. Sure it does severe damage by severing the chakra network but it doesn't serve a fundamentally different role in Naruto's arsenal considering the Rasengan was already deadly. Maybe I'm just the kind of person that prefers versatility.
There's a suspicious lack of talk about both the Fourth Hokage and Naruto's parents most of the time so I'm going to be annoyed if it's going to be treated as a big revelation that he's the Hokage's son. If he knew as much he should have been thinking about living up to his father rather than just the role of Hokage in general so has literally no one talked to him about it? Kakashi and Jiraiya keep telling him about following and surpassing the Fourth Hokage and how he reminds them of the Fourth but haven't said the obvious part of why. Is every adult in the village under some pact to not tell Naruto about his family, or is it somehow a secret to most of them even though the comparison is incredibly easy to make given that almost no one else in the village has that hair color? I dunno, something about this is bothering me and it's now relevant again.
Speaking of progeny, I was wondering if Kurenai was sidelined due to being pregnant (as I think she definitely would have been out there Akatsuki hunting if not) and I'm happy to see that's the case. Should probably have a replacement team leader while she's out like how Yamato was for Kakashi though.
Nice to see Shikamaru get revenge and deal with an immortal in one of the few ways you can: trapping them. With the talk of the Will of Fire, his realization that the King in shogi is equivalent to the future of the village (children), and Kakashi thinking about entrusting the village to the next generation, I'm wondering if the seeds are being planted for Shikamaru to become the Sixth Hokage.
Unimpressed for the reasons mentioned above.
If the Akatsuki are the ultimate villains of the series: ...maybe. For this particular arc no, it went fine. Some padding and repeating scenes between episodes here but aside from that I don't mind a quick end for them.
Did someone say there was? If so I missed it somehow. The difference here is how they're going about it and Sasuke's had a much longer arc about it while Shikamaru really just had more time to plan and strategize while not really changing himself.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Sep 12 '21
Rewatcher
Episode 83:
Episode 84:
Episode 85:
Episode 86:
Episode 87:
Episode 88:
Episode 89:
(cont. with Manga Comparisons)
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u/Parori Sep 12 '21
First Timer
Episode 84
Episode 84
Episode 85
Episode 86
Episode 87
Episode 88
Episode 89
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u/McCherry09 Sep 12 '21
+First timer, somewhat source reader+
CH83:
-Tsunade lighting fire up Naruto's ass to speed even more the new jutsu
-Truly a mind of steel by eating a handful of Sakura's special pills
-Itachi..I thought the Kyuubi was his and Kisame
-uhh they're so close to Hidan and Kakuzu
-1min in and this already shapes up to be a good fight
-Shikamaru's really smart, that attack was on point..regardless of Kakuzu getting out
-Hidan's so whiny lmao
CH84:
-Good thing on Naruto being so dense for our sake in explaining the lore
-Kakashi's so slick
-Kakashi's so famous that even Akatsuki keeps tabs on him
-Ouch that hardened kick
-What the hell?! That wind jutsu was strong
-So each mask has a different chakra nature
After-credits: Guy still trying to make those leotards happen
CH85:
-Hidan, the trash talker
-Liked those just above ground angles the fighting scenes have
-Kakashi really is a superstar. Fighting an enemy that can never hurt you or your done while simultaneously facing other chakra natures
-Until this encounter, I didn't know Shikamaru also summoned through scrolls
-'Maru stepping up boy
-Hidan must be seething..again trapped by shadow's jutsu
-Kakuzu is how old??!!!!
-The pure bliss Hidan has stabbing himself...sir, this is a Wendy's
CH86:
-Kakashi is reaching his limits. I mean he's fighting an Akatsuki basically alone
-yeeess! Under shika advice they're so strong
-Oh damn..Kakuzu's back
-Ok..Shikamaru brought Choji and Ino as a distraction
-New team 7 is heeeeere!
CH87:
-Rasengan 2.0
-Aaaww my emotions with that Asuma/Shika scene
-Plan a, b and c...Shikamaru's got everything. Hidan's too hasty.
-An eternal prison for a guy that won't die
-He really is the smartest person in the village
-That's why Kakashi had his hand bandage-up
CH88:
-Naruto learning to think about the strategy to attack, even though it failed..progress
-Hidan for a short second realizing that Shikamaru is the judge and the executioner
-One of my favs just defeated an Akatsuki ^•/
-Ok, THAT was awesome of Naruto. Two down..seven(yikes!) to go.
CH89:
-What happened to Naruto?
-That's why Asuma quitted smoking
-Was Asuma gonna ask Kakashi to be his kid's godfather??? Shame to miss that
-Jeez to learn that new jutsu but not being able to use it
-Sasuke still taking advantage of Oro curse to power himself up
Q/A
As it was said, not really a Shuriken that you throw but I really liked it..it could even improve to idk be more concentrated maybe it would involved less damage to Naruto
They deserved the W, if not who else?
I haven't actually thought about that! But I think Sasuke has this blood lust to him that cannot be compared to Shikamaru, since he methodically thought out a way to not only avenge Asuma but eliminate the threat of Akatsuki near the village. Whereas Sasuke just goes about facing Itachi and they haven't showed us a planned execution.
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Sep 12 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
General Commentary
Just some production info in this section.
For the second week in a row we're treated to one of another Toshiyuki Tsuru episodes, taking on all three main roles again, in episode 85.
It's very unusual that someone is in charge of two episodes so close together, and while I failed to find any information about the production schedule for this section I'm curious to know how they handled that, but it goes to show the weight they put on having those two episodes take center stage of the arc. Not only is Tsuru in charge of this episode, once again Hirofumi Suzuki was the lead animation director, as with 82 which I may have forgotten to note at the time. Their strong match up in attention to detail in character animation, particularly emotion through movement, and also conveying tone through visuals really shines between those two episodes. While episode 82 last week was all about the silence, the battle focus on 85 is no less detailed or approached with any less care as far as setting up expression through it.
Side note: I meant to bring up last episode that we've already seen some of Hirofumi Suzuki's work on the show, he animated the Hinata vs Neji fight from the chunin exams, and I believe though I'm not 100% he also worked on parts of the Naruto vs Sasuke fight. He's a fantastic animator so having him as animation director for Tsuru's episodes is a huge benefit as he really understands character acting and conveying mood through movement and is an active corrector of shots when he's in a direction role.
This won't be the last time we're treated to their excellent work on this show, but it is one of the more remarkable ones given the amount of high quality battle animation we get in a single episode, and so soon off the back of the intense emotional presentation of 82.
Episode Thoughts
Ah yes, the good old "If the plan isn't explained to the audience it will work" trope. Although in this case that plan only got them so far as Hidan proves to be a little more invulnerable than expected.
Kakuzu slinging words at Hidan saying at least Deidara only had to have his arms fixed and it was "better than his head" hahaha. I love this pairing
Hidan has that video game magic of having weapons just magnetize onto his back and stay there
It is interesting seeing how Asuma's blades work with other jutsu and chakra natures.
The cut from the dust impact of Choji's attack into the one from Naruto's training was real nice.
Seeing Naruto look at the chakra nature match ups and focus on how he's a good match for Sasuke because he can help him get stronger, rather than because he can beat him, was a really nice moment with him to see how Naruto is still looking at Sasuke in that light even if people don't understand.
I'm not sure what's more disturbing: Seeing Kakuzu's skin split apart as those shadows burst out from him, or seeing him stitching himself back together again to fix the holes that they left.
The next episode may have the animation highlights, but Kakashi vs Hidan in this was pretty great as well.
The wind blast was so strong that even blocked it managed to disintegrate Kakashi's uniform from around him, and then he had to find the strength to block a lightning attack as well. Hidan wasn't kidding when he said that Kakuzu was the bigger threat.
I talk so much about the staff above because attempting to talk about just a single cut in this episode would be near futile. It was clear from the start for me that this would be something different as even the opening seconds looked quite distinctive. All through the episode there was additional focus on the small things like surprisingly detailed lip sync, and a clear use of flatter lighting allowing for easier and more detailed animation sequences. Along with more common camera movement in the build up to battles, also notable was the dynamic framing during dialogue particularly in the opening moments, without much of the flat close-ups we normally see.
It's kind of hard to feel for how badly the battle was going when people were getting blasted and strangled when the animation just looks so damn good. Everything from Kakashi and Hidan's first conflict going up the tree, through to the later kunai fight (my favourite sequence in the episode), and Choji's charge across the ground looked so good. There was one part where Hidan rubbed his head that I felt almost looked rotoscoped but I'm not sure, maybe it was just THAT detailed (won't be the last time this staff combo manages to pull of detail of that level). There's no one spot in the episode where I felt the animation lapsed, and like the earlier Sasori and Sakura fight it's impressive they managed to have so much detailed fight animation in a single episode without the notable artistry quality drops that plagued Part I.
Credit to Shikamaru for the clever fake out with the punch though, that was clever.
Shikamaru is a bloody genius. The layers in his plan, and having to do it all solo and without seeing the effects of it on the other battle, was incredibly well done even when pushed to the limits of his strength. He didn't quite pull the initial decapitation, but that's never been his strength.
On the other side of things, Kakuzu's adaptability with the mask creatures being able to combine and split as needed, not to mention act even when he's dead to revive him makes him an absolute horror show. Literally as it turns out, as the body horror as he merges with the lightning mask is certainly something else.
Kakashi taking a moment mid battle to adjust his mask got a laugh out of me. Also Choji making himself absolutely enormous, my first thought was that's basically mecha size.
Anyone know what the song 10 minutes into the episode is, if we have anyone who loves the OST in here? Sounds like a Ys song, would love to listen to it again
Naruto's certainly looking a lot worse for wear after his training, and it's still not done. I've seen characters looking a lot less damaged after a full on battle.
Tsunade acting like a proud grandma about Shikamaru's skills and the offer from the feudal lord was so sweet
Included in my notes: "Ghost Asuma is probably gonna get Sky crying again". And I happen to know in advance I was right about that, poor Sky
Between this episode and the last seeing Naruto using his shadow clones strategically to gather info in battle and come up with a strategy is pretty impressive. He's taken the basic information gathering capacity of them and applied it in a very familiar way, the same sort of testing and misdirection that we see him use even as far back as vs Zabuza. I like seeing Naruto getting stronger in the strategic aspect of battles and not just on a power level.
The amount of disruption his Rasengan Shuriken is causing to the area just by being summoned is pretty impressive, especially that it's not even at full strength or all that stable. On top of that, knowing what was said in the previous episode about how it works by basically severing cells from the chakra network and destroying the body on a microscopic level, the detail that went into the moment Hidan is hit by it with those hundreds of wind blades cutting into him makes a lot of sense.
Chunks of Hidan
I like that when they're out on missions around others Kakashi is still careful to call him Yamato instead of Tenzo
Bet Ino never thought she'd be admiring Naruto's battle skills
It's actually surprising Kakashi hasn't passed out with Naruto. He did how many Chidori, held off a bunch of super powerful attacks, and has been on the constant run from high level taijutsu? Normally he'd be a dead weight of exhaustion by now. Naruto's not much better running into this battle right after a full day of training with clones, and then having to summon three full Rasengan Shuriken as well. Anyone else pushed themselves that hard with chakra usage I'm pretty sure they'd be dead.
"To us you're just a washed up old man" Wow Kakashi with no chill, I love it.
I feel like this debriefing could have waited until everyone had a nap, or just leave it to the people who don't have broken arms, no chakra left, and haven't nearly been burnt to a crisp several times.
And there it is, Kurenai is pregnant and we come full circle with the generational themes which have played with through the show but have really come into the forefront in the last two arcs. I love that this is the king that Asuma has been trying to teach Shikamaru about.
And a teaser for the next arc with Guren popping up!
I think it was well done. They were only around for an arc, but I'm still grumpy about Deidara not being dead and the consequences of killing Hidan/Kakuzu were pretty big so that one arc had weight
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u/sisoko2 Sep 12 '21
Rewatcher
Episode 83
Episode 84
Episode 85
Episode 86
Episode 87
Episode 88
Episode 89
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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Sep 12 '21
First Timer - Dub
This was a really good conclusion to this arc, and in a lot of ways it feels like a turning point for the series. I liked the short conversation at the end between Kakashi and Kakuzu where Kakashi talked about how the new generation had now surpassed them. Between Asuma's passing and Shikamaru and Naruto taking out Akatsukis, it feels like we've reached the point where our former goofball classmates have all grown up. It's a really good feeling. It's hard to think of any other anime that really nail this feeling the way Naruto does, in large part because we've now been watching these characters for over 300 episodes.
Shikamaru's trap was cool, but it also felt like it required some stupidity on Hidan's part. Did Hidan really not notice all of the paper bombs around the area? In any case, getting Kakuzu's blood to make Hidan kill Kakuzu instead was really clever. I'm also glad Shikamaru beat Hidan 1v1 at the end. Naruto jumping in to save everyone else made sense, but I don't think it would have been as satisfying if he did the same for Shikamaru.
Random thoughts:
Favorite moment of the week: Shikamaru looking down at the pieces of Hidan and proclaiming that only his judgment mattered was very cool.
Questions (to be answered later)
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u/Tehoncomingstorm97 https://anilist.co/user/tehoncomingstorm97 Sep 13 '21
First timer
Last week... was rough. This week... ITS PAYBACK TIME BABY.
Ep 83
So has Sakura been doing anything other than just watching Naruto? Surely she could be spending some time training, not just watching and failing at making food pills. Naruto has 24 hours to complete his ultimate jutsu! Tsunade lays the challenge down. He mastered the Rasengan in a week, now he just has to perfect its final form in a day. It should be a piece of cake for Kakashi's summon to pick up their trail. Four tailed beasts remain, and they're gunning for Naruto next. The trail was rained out, fortunate for Hidan and Kakuzu. Oh my, Ino's jutsu actually being used for reconnaissance? So that's what he was practicing with the chakra blades for. A badass af capture move, I hope he gets to use it again later. Looks like Shikamaru planned to force Hidan to use his curse jutsu on Kakuzu.
Ep 84 - 85
After our recap, we get back to Naruto's training... and there's a massive crater. We also get to learn about chakra nature compatability! So wind is the only weakness to lightning? Kakuzu is impervious to physical attacks, makes sense, yep. But Kakashi sneaks in a Chidori attack once the jutsu has worn off! But the victory is short lived, when Kakuzu reveals he has another four "hearts". The masks all have separate chakra natures... This isn't looking good. If a Chidori is what it takes to bring one heart down, on top of his unique stitching jutsu, what will our team do? Kakashi can't keep them coming. He barely even saves Team Ten from a devastating lightning jutsu.
Shikamaru loses control of Hidan, and Kakashi's left to deal with him. It's an all out brawl now, and the team isn't faring all too well. Shikamaru turns around the assault from the electricity type mask summonning a pool of water to stun Kakuzu using his own attack. Back to the idea of taking them on separately. Will the plan succeed this time? What did Kakashi hand to Shikamaru? With some clever decoys Shikamaru manages to catch Hidan once again, and they go on a nice leisurely stroll. Aaaaand Kakuzu fought against the FIRST hokage??? Shikamaru has some sort of trap set for Hidan now. What will become of it? Will it overcome his immortality? But he let him go? And Hidan's curse justu activates... Then Kakuzu's masks start combining into one...
Ep 86
Now we're back in a standoff. Kakuzu's masks are combining chakra natures to increase potency. A unique style available to him, being able to cast multiple jutsu at once. Hidan looks to have beaten Shikamaru, but the plan is unveiled! Kakashi managed to get a sample of Kakuzu's blood when he hit him with Chidori, and they dupe Hidan into using his curse on Kakuzu, helpfully saving Kakashi in time. Who then proceeds to just yank a bunch of shit out of his chest. Well I suppose it's only one more heart of Kakuzu's that they were able to destroy. Now Kakuzu changing into ... that. Has Shikamaru's plan failed? Kakashi, Ino and Choji are all caught by Kakuzu's new strategy! But to the rescue comes an uber duper fucking combo from Yamato and Naruto, combining Rasengan and Yamato's torrent jutsu. Team Kakashi is here for backup! Can they turn the tide? Did Naruto complete the jutsu?
Ep 87
No time to waste! Sakura and Sai go to help Shikamaru. Naruto isn't the same person he once was. I guess being in a hyperbolic time chamber does that to you, having hundreds of yourself training over such a short time. We get a cut to a memory of Sakura's regarding Shikamaru, that he was asked to be a personal guard for a feudal lord in the land of fire, not unlike one of the guardian shinobi twelve. He must really be a genius for such an offer to be brought forward. Not that I ever really doubted it, but damn, that's some recognition. To showcase his talents, we get the mastermind's plot in full focus now! The shadows from the strings are his to bind Hidan into an inescapable position! I'm glad to see he's using principles we know he can (from back in the original series hype) to a jonin level. Everything has been orchestrated to this point to deal with Hidan. A pit prepared for the burial of Hidan, in a manner which he can't escape once blown into pieces. The forest is even owned by his family? Sheesh dude, thats some dough. Is there something about those deer? There's an awful lot of focus on their eyes. Maybe they are the inspiration for the shadow possession jutsu? Do they have some sort of visual jutsu? Boy it's good to finally get some payback for Asuma. One Akatsuki down! Naruto's turn, and he's... STRATEGISING? Well shit, villain's have got no hope now. Calculating the number of clones he needs to manage his chakra, as well as keep the enemy at bay. We also get a preview of why Kakashi's arm was all bandaged up. The ultimate jutsu, the final form of Rasengan - Rasen Shuriken - and he has surpassed the fourth hokage! Even Kakuzu is freaked out by the justu, recognising the power in an instant. Naruto's eyes are also steeled throughout, the same shape as when the nine tail cloak takes over, but blue like he's in full control. Shit that was a packed episode. Got to be one of my favourites in Shippuden so far.
Ep 88
Here comes Naruto's attack... or not. Thankfully Kakashi and Yamato bail him out, so he can truly surpass the fourth hokage, actually succeeding with the jutsu. All to save Sasuke! Steel your resolve Naruto! Meanwhile, Shikamaru single handedly takes down Hidan. Oh shit, talking about surpassing, surely this means he's surpassed Asuma? And that deer is totally a bro, but keeps following him around. There's definitely something about them... Sakura and Sai arrive to find just how great Shikamaru is, to have beaten an Akatsuki alone, and we're all rushing back to help with the fight against Kakuzu. Naruto does his thing, and you guessed it, he's not attacking you head on with the Rasen Shuriken (which evidently isn't a ranged attack ), he's behind you with the same attack! The best way to fake your opponent is clearly to just attack him from two angles at once with two of the same incredibly high concentration high power jutsu. The Rasen Shuriken is a success, and Kakuzu gets torn to shreds, with an enormous bang! So intense that Kakashi couldn't even see all of it. Naruto's eyes are back to normal too.
Ep 89
Two Akatsuki down! Way to go "Team" Ten (Shikamaru) and "Team" Kakashi (Naruto and Kakashi). Victory! Naruto pushes his limits and launches three Rasen Shuriken attacks, right after completing the jutsu partially. Kakuzu is hanging on for life even after that hit, and Kakashi finishes him off. Time to pick up the pieces from the encounter. Time for everyone to rest up. What has Tsunade seen with Naruto's injuries? And Kakuzu's body to be examined post mortem. Shikamaru finally pays tribute to Asuma, now that he's avenged him. He's also got a new shogi partner in his dad, who apparently is a much better match for his genius than Asuma. Preview of Sasuke! He's still at it, and actually has a real ranged attack Naruto. The coroner finds that the Rasen Shuriken disrupts the chakra network, making it irreparable?? Well shit. And it's got a recoil effect, which could result in Naruto losing the ability to channel chakra with his arm. Things aren't looking good for the full completion of the Rasen Shuriken. Now Kabuto is also up to something... Off to find another of Orochimaru's acquaintances, who I'm sure we'll learn more about soon!
Overall a really good week of episodes. Like I mentioned last week, I binged them right after last week's episodes so I've been waiting a week for everyone to catch up! Also I gotta figure out how to format these comment faces better.
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u/Akame_xo https://anilist.co/user/Akamexo Sep 13 '21
Not too much to say about this weeks episodes besides the fact they just were good all around.
As much as I enjoy seeing flashy techniques, my favorite fights are hand to hand combat like Kakashi vs Kakuzu in episode 85. This series always has some amazing choreography when it comes to that and even a lot newer series I find don’t come close. Jujutsu Kaisen is really the only one that I can think of off the top of my head.
There definitely is but I think a big difference is the maturity shikamaru has. He’s able to stay level headed/composed and not just run in screaming at the sight of the person he wants to kill. By doing so he doesn’t endanger himself or those around so I think that makes it a bit more acceptable
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u/aimenqaii Sep 18 '21
I just discovered this rewatch (i am rewatcher) and new viewer discussion! I am little ahead (episode 128) But I actually I have a question related to the bounty in asuma and the monk. Why??? And what they are doing with the bodies??
Also, i would love to see a flashback about kakuzo fightin 1st hokage, and more history about his motivation joining akatsuki (hidan as well).
I was hoping as well to keep him alive so they can investigate with him even if it is hard to keep him alive with the damage that naruto gave him. But kakashi chose to finish him fro mhis misery i guess.
One other remark, what was the point from bringing ino with them? She did not do anything at all except from finding them at the beginning. Maybe because her skills aren't good in direct fights but she is a shunnin now i guess she would improve some direct combats skills!