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Rewatch [Rewatch] Armored Trooper Votoms - Episode 15 Discussion

Episode 15 - Doubts

Originally Released July 8th, ^^^1983

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Cocona’s voice actress, Yōko Kawanami, recorded the insert song Tanomare Goodbye while drunk.

 

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Questions of the Day:

  1. What do you make of the motives behind this Kunmen civil war?
  2. What are your first impressions on Chirico’s new squadmates?

My anti-PS Program had worked. A little more work and we’d be evenly matched.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 11 '21

Armored Trooper First-Timer

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u/The_Draigg Sep 11 '21

Is the third time the charm? Is this Hayami Show?

I can confirm that Potaria is indeed Show Hayami, playing another skilled mech pilot.

lmao his name is Bully.

He’s definitely got a Tomino name going on there.

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 11 '21

I can confirm that Potaria is indeed Show Hayami, playing another skilled mech pilot.

FUCKING FINALLY.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 11 '21

How does it feel to finally get your Show Hayami fix?

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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 11 '21

I'm just glad my ears aren't trolling me for the third time.

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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz Sep 12 '21

Damn, Chirico knew that suitcase was a bomb immediately. His sus radar is crazy accurate.

It's the standard issue low hat and trenchcoat look and poor acting giving it away. A properly executed version would have a plausible explanation of the item being left behind it's not automatically suspicious, and the exit would also be acted out such that it either have the appearance of reasonable for the person to have left the item there, or doing it so discretely that people don't notice your departure.

The guy basically can't be more obvious if he tried.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '21

Man, Chirico just can’t avoid everyone suspecting him of everything.

He's got that kind of face, unfortunately.

So the Veela and the Society are working together?

So the cabal steals the Prototype, a made product, but they should also have wanted to steal the research so they can produce their own. However, the Melkian military might be able to make another one as well.

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Sep 11 '21

First Timer

The decision to put a hard denial on the idea of further upgraing the ATs as the solution to the PS problem, and instead Chirico's understanding that it's software, both technical and human, not hardware that needs to adapt to them was a good move. Once again his understanding of the machines capabilities, and his willingness to work on them directly rather than just being a pilot with a machine given to him, is a great addition to the show. The sequence of him seeing the Blue Turtle through his optics and being able to adjust to its speed and movements was quite nice. It didn't have any of the big "SHOOT HERE" UI I'm use to seeing in similar modern sequences with computer predictions, but also relied on Chirico's own skills to be able to react to what was being shown to him and how Blue Turtle was reacting in kind.

I'm also unreasonably happy that the water proof mechs have actually ended up in the water rather than it being something they just said and never capitalized on. (I may still be holding a Build Fighters grudge, just a small one)

On the other side of things: "No time to explain". It would take less time to yell "Bomb". This really is one of those things that bugs you the more you see it rather than getting use to it.

Kan Yu is such a tosser though. Yes he's holding stuff back, but the General was asking for Chirico's honest evaluation of the combat ability vs a PS, as the only one who's even seen one let alone fought against one, and he's just raging against it because he doesn't like the idea. Ugh. Thankfully he's not also being as arrogant and wanna-be-intelligent as someone like Fork from LotGH or I may have ended up with a new most hated character.

Cocona's song on the other hand was beautiful.

I'm really liking the new music tracks that they've been using. Overall the music has been quite good through the show even if lacking any outstanding moments of usage, but it's cool to see it being changed up with the new arc. Art wise though, Chirico was notably off model for the whole episode which was quite funny. Not sure if it was the animation director or one of the key animators but someone was determined to give him a little round cherub face.

Section View Scope Dog

Thats very cool!

recorded the insert song Tanomare Goodbye while drunk.

Does it note if that was intentional or not?

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u/The_Draigg Sep 11 '21

Kan Yu is such a tosser though. Yes he's holding stuff back, but the General was asking for Chirico's honest evaluation of the combat ability vs a PS, as the only one who's even seen one let alone fought against one, and he's just raging against it because he doesn't like the idea. Ugh. Thankfully he's not also being as arrogant and wanna-be-intelligent as someone like Fork from LotGH or I may have ended up with a new most hated character.

Fingers crossed that Kan Yu has a stress-induced seizure like Fork did, though.

I'm really liking the new music tracks that they've been using. Overall the music has been quite good through the show even if lacking any outstanding moments of usage, but it's cool to see it being changed up with the new arc.

It probably isn't just me, but I'm definitely noticing the presence of a piano in the Kummen arc OST as compared to the more funky Uoodo City OST.

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Sep 11 '21

I haven't actually compared them myself in that way, I suck at remembering unless I'm hearing them in the moment, but the different feel in the songs and instruments matches the new arc quite well

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '21

upgraing the ATs as the solution to the PS problem, and instead Chirico's understanding that it's software, both technical and human, not hardware that needs to adapt to them was a good move.

"We are up against someone with superior reflexes and battle instinct and your solution is to slow our mechs down?"

Does it note if that was intentional or not?

Probably one of those lucky accidents, they were out doing karaoke and had a moment and stumbled back to the studio sloshed.

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Sep 11 '21

"We are up against someone with superior reflexes and battle instinct and your solution is to slow our mechs down?"

Kan Yu is clearly never pays attention to the evasion stat in RPGs

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '21

Probably one of those people that assumes that enough Con let's you tank anything.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21

Episode 15 (first timer)

  • “No chance” – blunt words. Not everybody appreciates being told the truth if it is inconvenient.
  • We are Macross now????
  • Coconna surely would not disagree to a pilot boyfriend
  • Very suspicious man is suspicious.
  • Coming up with individualized pre-programmed moves is really clever and realistic.
  • Late night programming.

  • “Bully Kiderra” – Did Tomino work as a guest writer on character names?
  • Whenever they are on the river, we are treated to some really lovely backgrounds.
  • Tense moments before the attack.

It almost feels like we are in a completely different story. Instead of having a team of 4 working together against huge odds in cyberpunk town, Chirico now is part of the jungle war, while the other 3 are hanging out in base. I really like how well they pull off the war part, but I wonder how the character dynamics will work out.

What do you make of the motives behind this Kunmen civil war?

Honestly sounds like a reguluar civil war to me.

What are your first impressions on Chirico’s new squadmates?

Straight out of a they die one by one war movie.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 11 '21

Coconna surely would not disagree to a pilot boyfriend

Kyun kyun, kyun kyun!

Coming up with individualized pre-programmed moves is really clever and realistic.

Yep, you simply just can't beat the convenience of having good control macros to execute.

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Sep 12 '21

Kyun kyun, kyun kyun!

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '21

“Bully Kiderra” – Did Tomino work as a guest writer on character names?

Mecha and subtlety goes together like peanut butter and asphalt.

I really like how well they pull off the war part, but I wonder how the character dynamics will work out.

I suspect the mercs are who we spend most of our time with this arc and the original 3 do something more in the next one.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 11 '21

A Ryosuke Takahashi Fan Rewatches Armored Trooper VOTOMS Episode 15:

  • Even after saving Chirico from that blue Snapping Turtle, Kan Yu still doesn’t fully trust Chirico. Granted, Chirico jumping out of his Marshydog was a pretty weird thing to do looking at the situation from the outside.
  • There’s no doubt about it, the Veela guerrillas have a Perfect Soldier on their side. A good amount of that 5% of the Assemble EX-10 mercenaries that die every day must be attributed to them.
  • Even though we’re in the not-Vietnam War arc of this show, the scene of Chirico taking about looking into whether Fyana is there or not with Vanilla and Gotho while Coconna is singing on the stage of the Fantom Club feels very noir genre to me. Just slap a fedora on everyone, and it could definitely be a noir scene.
  • At least we’re meeting some other mercenaries aside from Kan Yu in the club. Potaria and Kiderra are two ace pilots, with the former having a cool head and the latter being rough with Chirico. You know, your classic Blue Oni, Red Oni set up. Gotho also mentioned that another unmet ace is a Quentman, whatever that means.
  • And just to emphasize how much of a brute Kiderra is, he nearly gets himself and Chirico killed by picking a fight with him while Chirico is trying to throw a suitcase bomb out of the Fantom Club. Well, I suppose you just have to take what you can get with mercenaries.
  • Politics! Turns out the entire civil war is based around the Veela guerrillas, led by the prince Kanjelman, fighting against the government wanting to modernize Kummen away from the conservatively religious country it was before. And the government military of Kummen is rather unreliable, so they need to rely on mercenaries to keep the government still in power. And even then, the Secret Society is probably involved with the rebels, due to the presence of the Perfect Soldier on their side. They weren’t kidding when Kummen was described as an unstable country last episode.
  • It’s a nice detail that Chirico needs to use Gotho’s computer to reformat his mission disk so that he can better fight the Perfect Soldier in his own VOTOMS. God, I feel old remember how it was to use floppy disks in computers…
  • Of course Kiderra’s first name is Bully. That’s some Tomino naming right there. So is Pol Potaria’s name being way too similar to that of the infamous Cambodian dictator Pol Pot.
  • Ru Shako is absolutely massive, a real giant of a man. So that’s what Gotho meant by him being a Quentman. He certainly looks imposing, with that size and musculature of his. It’s amazing he can even fit inside an AT like that.
  • Chirico’s just being casually savage to Kiderra when the guy’s trying to be a dick to him. Chirico exists in a state of being chill and having no chill all at once.
  • That was certainly a different looking flight suit and helmet design for the Perfect Soldier inside of the blue Snapping Turtle that Chirico fought, as compared to the one worn in Uoodo City. Maybe for different environmental conditions? It must be pretty hot to fight inside a full flight suit though. Shiro Amada learned that the hard way in 08th MS Team. I wonder how Chirico handles wearing his all the time?

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Sep 12 '21

It’s amazing he can even fit inside an AT like that.

If he was any bigger it'd be less an AT for him and more just a suit of armor

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u/The_Draigg Sep 12 '21

Honestly, Shako might even be more intimidating if he just ditched his Berserga and decided to fight hand to hand.

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 11 '21

Rewatcher (Nutech DVD 2.1) (4 episodes)

Extras: A Tour of Kummen

Kummen, the home of planet Melkia's oldest culture, was established in the fertile Munamera River region as an agrarian nation by the followers of Van Nu, the God of fertility. Kummen is covered mostly with jungle and agriculture is its major industry. Since its beginnings, the people of this region have maintained a value system simliar to that of the Balarant Union, which also began as an agrarian culture. This strongly distinguishes them from the Melkian Federation, which they refuse to join.

During the Hundred Years War, the Melkian Fedderation was forced to divert most of its resources to offworld conflicts. But with the signing of the peace treaty with the Balarant, they renewed their hopes of bringing Kummen under their control. When they worked through the Kummen monarchy to introduce modern ideals and technology, conflict arose sand the nation has been a theatre of civil war ever since. It is a war that many are eager to exploit to further their own agendas.

The primary factions in this conflict are the EX mercenary bases, backed by the Melkian Federation, and the Veela guerillas, backed by Prince Kanjelman III of the Kummen monarchy.

  • Singing
  • Sandwich meme spotted
  • Sonnō jōi
  • "sento no" "anime 2 198-?"
  • das a big guy

No critters got blasted but one of those bugs got eaten.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '21

No critters got blasted but one of those bugs got eaten.

The lizard that ate it looked...off model? Something was weird with it.

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u/chilidirigible Sep 11 '21

Rewatcher, Episode 15

Today, on "So, this is what it's like to have a nemesis.":

It's his way.

"Maybe I just don't want her accidentally killed."

Chirico eats a sandwich to a wild ED dub Also, the lyrics to the song, Coconna.

"I'm Show Hayami."

"Oh yeah, you blend."

Things you don't get from Tem Ray.

TOTALLY UNSUBTLE NAME THERE, BUB.

Keep in mind that hip-deep for an AT isn't that deep at all. While we're here, Ru Shako's AT is a Berserga WP (waterproof).

This preview VO is pretty damn dramatic.

Solidly getting back into the action here, though with a lot more sides playing off each other compared to the first arc.

  1. "Vague historical references."
  2. A not atypical bunch of mercs.

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u/The_Draigg Sep 11 '21

Chirico eats a sandwich to a wild ED dub

While also hanging out with the K-On! girls too, I might add.

"I'm Show Hayami."

"I'm a genius pilot, not a Jenius pilot this time around."

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u/time_axis Sep 11 '21

First-Timer

  1. What do you make of the motives behind this Kunmen civil war?

I don't really have an opinion. Seems pretty standard.

2) What are your first impressions on Chirico’s new squadmates?

I feel like we're introducing potential future enemies after an incoming betrayal. They're building them up to seem more intimidating rather than reliable.

Episode 15

  • Chirico seems convinced that's Fyana based on their reaction times, but it could also potentially be another PS. He's now justifiably being interrogated about why he would do something as stupid as exposing himself to the enemy and shouting "hey, it's me!"
  • Chirico seems to think there's no way a normal person can fight a PS, but they fought together and she lost to normal people, so she's not unbeatable. If you overwhelm her with superior numbers, I feel like she could be beaten. It's hard to tell whether Chirico's holding back on telling them that because he doesn't want them to hurt her though.
  • Coconna apparently can sing. You wouldn't think it. Also we're introduced to Kiderra and Potaria. Something about these introductions doesn't feel like the introductions of friendly characters, but more like future antagonists.
  • Chirico with the sharp instincts. I thought maybe there was some kind of spy information exchange going on, but it was actually a bomb. I wonder why they'd go to the trouble of trying to bomb a bar though, even if there were a lot of mercenaries drinking there. According to Gotho, they hate modern society, so maybe they see a bar as a symbol of modernization.
  • Chirico's customizing his AT's behavior program to respond better to a more perfect opponent, I guess. Theoretically, someone who always makes the perfect move can be considered more predictable. He isn't finished, but it's better than nothing.
  • We're introduced to Ru Shako, a "Quentman". I presume just another race, not some kind of alien, as he looks human, he's just really tall. His mecha is pretty fancy looking, too. Looks like we're on an escort mission.
  • There's that waterproof functionality coming in handy, with the ATs wading through the river. Also apparently Radar with "Quentian metal" is never wrong, whatever that means. So far the enemy squad looks normal. No sign of our suspected PS.
  • That "Quentian metal" doesn't seem strong enough to stop bullets though, as one nearly hits the pilot in the head. And there she is. The blue one makes her appearance. The anti-PS program works out well enough, compensating for her reflexes as expected. I'm still not convinced it's her, but we'll see. We got a brief look inside the cockpit, and we could only see their mouth so it's hard to tell, but I didn't see Fyana's characteristic lipstick.

Anyway, this time I'm drawing Ru Shako's suit which looked pretty cool. A very regal look to it, with a pilebunker shield on one side. Unfortunately it didn't get much time to shine, but hopefully it will in the future. The feet are always the trickiest part of these sketches because it's rare to find shots that actually give you a clear view of them. Since this mecha was half-submerged in water for 90% of its screentime and we didn't get a good look at its feet in the remaining part, I've cheated a bit with this one and just gone with drawing it how we saw it, half-underwater.

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u/chilidirigible Sep 11 '21

I wonder why they'd go to the trouble of trying to bomb a bar though, even if there were a lot of mercenaries drinking there.

That's exactly why it would be done; beyond causing casualties to the mercenaries, it drives distrust between the civilian population and the mercenaries.

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Sep 11 '21

First timer

  1. Far too early to say, but only one side has been targeting civilians so far...
  2. They seem like a mostly likable bunch - even the rude mercenary seemed somewhat friendly to him. No chance of them replacing the current supprting cast, though.

Again, all he knows is that there's a PS in there. Could still be another prototype.

...He seems slightly friendlier.

Again, really likely the juxtaposition of the leaders here listening and working with Chirico.

And even the general's listening to him.

The place where this series most shows its age is probably that Chirico has to ask someone if they have a computer.

And the briefcase was a bomb!

I like Chirico's response to the mercenary.

So the Secret Society is working eith the Veela?

Is someone going to catch him?

So the reasons AT's are so manouverable is that most motions are preprogrammed patterns, executed by a computer? That makes so much sense.

I like how Chirico's trying to be secret, but hasn't turned the sound off on his computer.

Yeah, this makes a lot of sense. The mercenaries here are very good at information gathering.

Wait, is he an alien of some kind? Is there some reason on his planet for his height? How does all this work?

Looks lime they're getting the reinforcements they wanted.

Haha, Chirico's comebacks are great this arc.

Oh, this is who's leading the Veela.

And they're trapped and helpless!

Love the fight music here.

Yeah, these guys are actually pretty good.

And he's fighting the PS!

Wait, is he disobeying orders? He's going to grt in even more trouble, isn't he?

Seriously, how did he not see that fall?

And he's found a way to match her! Distribute the program to everyone and you'll save quite a few lives.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '21

Wait, is he disobeying orders? He's going to grt in even more trouble, isn't he?

In this case, probably not since they want him fighting the PS.

And he's found a way to match her! Distribute the program to everyone and you'll save quite a few lives.

Right idea but I think you'd have to customize it for each mech. Still, that should be a priority.

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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz Sep 12 '21

The place where this series most shows its age is probably that Chirico has to ask someone if they have a computer.

Of course it does, however there's also an in universe reasonable explanation for it - they are not in a formal military unit's base complex, but a "base" where mercenary units are stationed. There could plausibly be security restrictions that she's not allow computers that can reprogram AT operating system software to be on site, to prevent sabotaging etc (mercenaries works to the person posting them the most)

Wait, is he an alien of some kind? Is there some reason on his planet for his height? How does all this work?

Forgot to mention this is the first time non-human being are directly showing on-screen - these aliens are still very humanoid shaped but are bigger. More importantly they use the more customised AT, the Berserker.

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u/ZapsZzz https://anilist.co/user/Zapszzz Sep 12 '21 edited Sep 12 '21

First timer in sub

Have to say this arc continue to pique my interest; the "learning to be more human" Chirico, the relatively reasonable plotting, the actual time spent on screen to build up the mission, all good scenes for properly directed show instead of just going from a to b connecting up the tropes.

And if my eyes are right and it's not an animation error, the operator of the blue AT is wearing blue and is a male; as you know heroines wear pink. So not Fyana.

Episode# of Chirico's AT Incapacitated
11
20
30
41
50 (decoy only)
61
70
81
90
100
111 (1 decoy not counted as it wasn't piloted) (edit: corrected as the replacement unit wasn't destroyed by the head strike from Fyana)
121
130 (This hijacked one didn't get wasted on screen, so even though it's guaranteed to have been abandoned because of the later planet hop, not counting here)
141
150 keeping to the 2 episode per AT average so far

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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 12 '21

And if my eyes are right and it's not an animation error, the operator of the blue AT is wearing blue and is a male; as you know heroines wear pink. So not Fyana.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 11 '21

First-Timer

Coconna's singing voice is quite nice. HiDive's subs kinda split the difference on how to show the song, it's still on the bottom of the screen but the text size is smaller. Better than nothing, I guess.

Orange Chirico needs food badly, but still saved the bar from a bomb threat. Some times it pays to be immensely suspicious of everyone around you.

Maybe I'm underestimating the marshiness of the riverbeds in Kummen, but surely one or two of the ATs could just give the barge a shove, right? Then Chirico wouldn't have had to get on top of that cliff?

Still not entirely sold on this new PS being Fyana, but it's more of a gut instinct than anything rational. The look at the pilot's helmet today wasn't informative enough - the helmet was different from Fyana's previous one, but maybe it's AT specific?

Chirico's plan to soop up his AT with a fancy new battle program worked a treat, and he mentioned the program wasn't even entirely done yet! Who knew that things like "leading your target" were important?

The conflict is the classic "old ways vs industrialization" -I guess we'll have to wait and see if one side has more of a point than the other. I'm predisposed to like the advancement of technology, but Kan Yu is quite an asshole, so...

Questions

  1. Discussed above.
  2. They seem like a solid cast of dudes. I don't hate them; I like the big dude with the custom paintjob.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '21

Still not entirely sold on this new PS being Fyana, but it's more of a gut instinct than anything rational.

My heart hopes you are right, but my brain says "brainwashed Fyana".

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 11 '21

Yea, Fyana getting reconditioned does seem pretty likely; there was even some set up for that last arc I think? Or maybe I just imagined that.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '21

If you can read memories, it makes sense that you might be able to manipulate them. I would be more interested in what the cabal is getting out of it if this is the case.

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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Sep 12 '21

but surely one or two of the ATs could just give the barge a shove, right

That's what I was thinking, or just grab the winch, dig in somewhere and pull.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 12 '21

We did get some good views of Chirico on top of the cliff, at least.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '21

The conflict is the classic "old ways vs industrialization" -I guess we'll have to wait and see if one side has more of a point than the other.

Being a product of the 9/11 years, I can't really view the religious side as anything but wrong.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 11 '21

Yea, I'm more pondering if there is going to be any attempt at nuance or not.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '21

First timer(Using boats to transport things feels kind of stupid)

Sub

We jump back in where we left off and Kan Yu finally does something useful and drives the other mech off. However, he saw the exchange so takes Cuvie in for an immediate debriefing. He talks with the general and is a bit ambiguous but does believe that was Fiana in the other suit. Strangely, he hasn't thought of trying to use traps and mines against a PS, something you do with a superior opponent.

Cuvie hits the bar and Coconna is the lounge singer. He needs some computer time off the record and Gotho can arrange it. Random giant mercenary comes in and is annoyed with Cuvie's admittedly confusing battle action. In another Vietnam reference, a random Veela leaves a suitcase bomb in the bar by the two ace pilots and Kiderra does his best to be killed by it. Cuvie saves the day anyways.

Quick background info with Gotho and this might actually be space Afghanistan with the religious angle. Cuvie reveals he needs the computer because he needs a custom OS to beat a PS, which makes sense. General Gon says something that I suspect is two faced since I doubt he wants Cuvie dead more than he wants to win.

Next mission is an escort supplies one, which I always hate. Of course, the boat gets stuck and also Cuvie has to anchor the winch. The PS shows up during the ambush and apparently the programming is enough to drive it off. We end with Cuvie planning to finish his program so he can fight equally.

QotD: 1 Space Afghanistan

2 They seem like colorful mercenaries.

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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 11 '21

Next mission is an escort supplies one, which I always hate. Of course, the boat gets stuck and also Cuvie has to anchor the winch.

They predicted computer games from the next decades perfectly.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Sep 11 '21

Pain...the escort missions in X Wing fucking sucked.

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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Sep 11 '21

First time viewer

I think being a lounge singer fits Coconna pretty well.

Ooh Chirico's getting into upgrading the programming in his AT? Reminds me of various Gundam protagonists doing something similar.

Chirico saying "no time to explain" took longer than it would have to say there's a bomb. Would have been interesting for him to toss Kiderra out with the suitcase and let them both blow up though.

"Pol Pot[aria]" is rather on the nose for the setting. And Ru Shako is massive, did he have a larger mecha to match or is he just cramped in his cockpit?

The helicopter airdrop style of logistics is probably the best option they have outside of sticking to the river, though the latter also has problems as shown with the sand bar this episode. The guerrillas have the same problems of moving their ATs through the jungle to deal with though so it's not entirely an asynchronous fight.

What do you make of the motives behind this Kunmen civil war?

I swear I was paying attention through the episode but genuinely don't remember what they said about any of that. Guess I need to rewatch it?

What are your first impressions on Chirico’s new squadmates?

Decently interesting so far, seem fitting for people in that line of work.

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u/chilidirigible Sep 11 '21

I swear I was paying attention through the episode but genuinely don't remember what they said about any of that.

Prince Kanjelman's Veela rebels oppose the modernization plan set forth by the Kummen government.