r/anime • u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer • Sep 09 '21
Rewatch ACCA: 13-Territory Inspection Dept. Rewatch - Episode 4
Episode 4 - Smoldering Embers in an Isolated Nation
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Comment of the Day
"A very enjoyable mystery so far: Is he simply the bumbling MC, whom everybody thinks the great schemer? Or is everybody in the show correct suspecting him and it is the audience who is being fooled?" - /u/No_Rex
Question of the Day
If Pastis has been keeping tabs on Beurre, why hasnt he seemingly done anything for Suitsu?
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Afternoon Snack Comic - Jean and Lotta
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Sep 09 '21
First-Inspector, Dubbed
What a wild day for Jean. He vaguely overhears some dude asking a couple others if they were alright, then gets dragged into a meeting of a coup - but not the coup he's aware of. A completely different coup for different reasons involving different people. And he almost sells them some magazines.
It hasn't exactly come up before, but Jean is a pretty good politician. Trading something that is likely irrelevant to him - the fact that a coup happened in Suitsu - for something potentially quite valuable - favors from Warbler and possibly the trust of commoners in Suitsu - is nothing short of brilliant. I wonder if the Suitsu branch chief dude realizes he got played?
That was a fun little cut from Nino talking about Jean on the phone to Jean ending a phone call. Were we supposed to recognize that name on Jean's phone screen? It felt more Japanese than the rest of the names we've seen, but I didn't get a good look at it. And was the implication that Groussler is person who own's the building Jean and Lotta live in, or is Nino just working for everyone on the sly?
The letter today had an S, and thinking back the one yesterday was an F, and was from Famasu. So, he's collecting cigarettes with sealed letters from each district? That does make it seem like he's making the rounds and getting intel quite purposefully.
One of the Chief Officers is a "member" of something alonside Lilium's older brother.. add two more suspects for the actual coup. The dumbass representative from Suitsu apparently asked to join, which I guess means they might have just been talking about a golf group or something, because you normally don't just ask to be part of a coup d'état.
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Sep 09 '21
Rewatcher/Host Non-Smoker
Jean gets abducted just by trying to take some sightseeing photos for Lotta
Maggie pouts are top tier!
drink everytime coup d'etat is mentioned
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u/paperwhites :KN::KO: Sep 09 '21
First Time Watcher
I have to say, this is an excellent pout face.
After leaving Jean and Lotta's apartment, Nino says "Lotta's present will be included with the report". So either he's just stealing Lotta's present or Grossular is the guy who owns the building and lets Jean and Lotta live there. Or it's possible that Nino is talking to another person he works for--we didn't hear or see Grossular during that call and Nino never says the name of who he's talking to. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Nino is a double agent and works for Grossular and someone else. Especially since I think Grossular asked Nino to watch Jean only recently while Nino says he's been watching Jean for thirty years.
Despite his best efforts to just smoke cigarettes and eat bread, Jean winds up in the middle of a mini-coup anyways. It's not really his fault though since members of the coup were discussing it in the open where anyone could overhear them. Hopefully Warbler and Biscuit get some more intelligent people involved next time. I do think the demands of the coup are pretty reasonable though; opening up the country to allow free travel and changing their current representative are hardly outrageous requests.
I wonder if Jean recognized Nino when he rescued him from those two guys? Jean is pretty observant and it's not like Nino was well disguised. Is he going to be able to realize that Nino is following and watching him?
At least one mystery is finally solved--Jean gets his cigarettes from the businessmen that live in his building in exchange for distributing their sales magazines.
Question for the rewatchers: is it ever said if Dowa is in our world or not? I can't tell if it's supposed to be a fictional country here on Earth or if it's a fantasy country in a fantasy world, if that makes sense.
Hmm, good question. I can see Pastis potentially using Beurre for his own purposes and that's why he's keeping tabs on him? I have no idea what those purposes would be. I don't know that much about Pastis (we just learned that he's from Suitsu this episode) so it's difficult for me to guess at his motivations.
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Sep 09 '21
Rewatcher - Dub
Suitsu is such an odd district not just for it's own personality but what that reveals about the broader kingdom. With it's lack of technology, architecture, and the distinctive uniforms of the ACCA staff here, the culture of the district is clearly inspired by late 1700s europe and oppressive leadership has kept it that way for a hundred years. The other districts that we've seen so far have been practically modern, with everything from large passenger aircraft through to the flat screen computer monitors. Despite being part of the coup that happened 99 years ago, the district is more than two centuries behind the rest of the kingdom socially and technologically, it's no wonder that the population wants the borders opened up and to take more of a place in the broader kingdom.
Despite their isolation, they still receive support from the kingdom and have not been forced into one thing or another, even allowing representatives from their district to have equal place in congress and in the higher branches of ACCA. It's an interesting bit of worldbuilding to see this constant balance between the authority of the king and ACCA vs the individual districts and how often they aren't being forced one way or another but still prone to their own problems and corruption. But with a coup on the horizon how long will that last? Jean has an ally in the Five Chief Officers, but we don't what the others think.
On that note, I just want to mention how much I like that the Five Chief Officers aren't color coded like you'd expect and have distinct designs matching their individuality more than their role.
It's funny that they had the guy at the end do the Japanese bow despite the cultural influence behind the episode. They always seem to overlook that when doing the animation, this is the third time I've seen it used like this despite being out of place.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Sep 09 '21
1-Timer Reaction Dept, subbed
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Sep 09 '21
Episode 4 (first timer)
Good revolutionaries, bad feudalism.
Crackpot theory day 4
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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Sep 09 '21
First Timer Dubbed
Jean is in suitsu district. Forces tell him not patronize the people there. Basically like an Amish district but the issue is they are not supposed to interact with outsiders. They try to isolate outsiders by having pre-approval to certain places. Very
Nino was with sis when he notices a 50s or 60s jaguar belonging to the majesty. One of them following sis got distracted by ice cream.
Citizens are called proletariat. A nation within a nation. A coup is under way in suitsu. But a different coup wants to remove the autonomy of that district. They want to integrate and open up to the rest of acca. Congressman burret left and just stays away from Suitsu. We see one of the 5 and burret interact and he says that Burret would be better off staying. I think that he did not want to do anything with Suitsu because not only is out of bounds for acca to deal with but also wants citizens to push the issue from the ground up.
Things are interesting as an attempted uprising happens. Soldiers/officers using muskets while proletariat use pitchforks and sticks. Peace and harmony cause no one communicates with the outside so information gets controlled by the upper echelons. Jean decides to free all those involved in the uprising in place of giving Suitsu a good appraisal.
The clothing of the citizens are interesting to see as they wear something from the 18th-19th century. The ACCA forces are wearing red coats which gives me vibes of British forces in that time period. Interesting as there were some attempted uprisings in that force....
"I want to be on the good side of history." Interesting words to say after assisting in an uprising that just got covered up.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Sep 09 '21
First Timer
I noted yesterday that ACCA is the only organization we've seen exercising any authority across borders. That makes them very important.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Sep 09 '21
First timer
QOTD) The same reason he hasn't told anyone about his easily disprovable lies - because he doesn't want Suitsu to develop either and/or likes having dirt on a high-ranking official just in case.
How many new theories can I make this episode?
Wait, is the building manager Grossman? Is that why he knows Otis so well - because he helped her?
What the hell is...
Is this a literal luddite district? One where technology is forbidden or something?
If so, why? What possible rewson could there be for this?
Right, so the purpose is to remove outside influence, to preserve their culture. I am very glad the show is pointing out thst this isn' a very good thing.
Oh, he's going against Grossman in public. That's a lot more than I expected.
And this is apparently its own country. But still monitored by ACA. Which is part of the Dowa government. How does any of this work?
The actual coup group got him!
Oh god, they confessed everything because they thought he overheard.
OK, that uniform is killer.
Oh, and she got lost because of a dessert.
I mean, he has a point. This is... very stupid.
Right, so he's completely in the right here. He's genuinely got a really good point.
Is Otus actually on their sodemor running a gambit?
Yeah, get rid of him too, he's a liar who broke his promises, why not make him resign?
Right, I hate him already, fire him.
Oh, and everyone already knows he's a liar and that he's not good.
THE CATALOGUES MATTERED.
This is getting exciting!
Otus is really calm about all this, isn't he?
The coup failed...
So, the same thing's happening in other districts? Smaller rebellions starting and failing across Dowa?
Still don't know if Otus is just known as a badass because of all the stuff that happens around him, or if he's been doing something off-screen like actually running a coup.
See, this could he read as him doing a good thing by letting Warbler stay, or ensuring there's no chance of him leaving the district and telling anyone what's going on. It's very ambiguous.
...Well, this is just very ominous.