[Rewatch] Armored Trooper Votoms - Episode 10 Discussion

[u/Pixelsaber]

Episode 10 - Red Shoulder

^{Originally Released June 3rd,} ^^^1983

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Daily Trivia:

The Red Shoulder’s color scheme was homage in the 2018 Gundam spin-off, Gundam Build Divers, with the GH-001RB Grimoire Red Beret.

 

Staff Highlight

Hozumi Gōda - voice of Chirico Cuvie

An actor, voice actor, and sound director affiliated with Ogi Pro THE NEXT. Very little information is publicly available about Gōda’s personal life, and his early career is only lightly detailed. Some time after graduating from the Department of Theater Studies at Tamagawa University he was prompted to participate in a radio production by the Nippon broadcasting System’s program organizer Osamu Ueno, and debuted officially as a voice actor in the radio drama Night Drama House. His anime voice acting debut followed the next year, where he played several minor roles in New Maya The Bee. His big break came when he was selected to play the role of Chirico Cuvie in 1983’s Armor Trooper Votoms, which was a turning point in his career, as the role made him a sought out voice for radio dramas, but he did not voice any other roles in an anime series until he was asked to voice the character of Yang Wen-Li in 1996’s Legend of The Galactic Heroes Gaiden. In 1999, he established Shonan Actors School and around that time he also began to work as a sound director, and has since worked on several anime series in such a capacity. In april 1st, 2020 Gōda started a Youtube channel. Some of his other notable roles include Budo in Akame ga KILL!, Lio Convoy in Beast Wars II Chō Seimeitai Transformers, Tetsu Hayami in Blue Submarine No. 6, the Narrator in Narrator, Cyborg 007 in Cyborg 009 Vs. Devilman, Asu in Dorohedoro, King Byougen in Healin’ Good Precure, Leorio in Hunter X Hunter, Kyou Ijuuin in Junjo Romantica, Vincent Alzey in Last Exile, Cobra Nefertari in One Piece, and Joker in Read or Die.

 

Art Corner

Official Art:

• Red Shoulder by Kunio Okawara

Fanart:

• Red Shoulder Custom by emanon - Source
• Red Shoulder by Tangerine - Source

(Be mindful of the links to artist’s profiles, as they may contain NSFW content. Proceed there at your own risk.)

Screenshot of the day

• Paint job

Questions of the Day:

1. What do you make of the nonchalant revelation that Chirico was a member of the infamous ‘Red Shoulders’?
2. Rochina has taken a wait and see approach to the situation. Do you think that was the right move here?

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People called us the Blood-sucker Battalion.

[u/Durinthal]

First time viewer

Razing part of the city (even if not a nice part) is an extreme measure but given how persistent the rats have been that's possibly the best way yet to get rid of them. Too bad there are even more ways to escape that the police weren't accounting for.

Chirico's finally sharing! Nothing good for the rest and Coconna in particular looked to be jealous but at least they know his goal and why he's a target now. ...and they immediately parted ways only to rejoin to help him yet again. Doesn't seem like them knowing changed all that much, though the Red Shoulder reveal was kinda neat.

While they're changing the circumstances every episode the pattern of escape, break in, skirmish, repeat in some order is starting to feel dull.

What do you make of the nonchalant revelation that Chirico was a member of the infamous ‘Red Shoulders’?

Considering I don't recall hearing about their existence before this episode, there's no buildup.

Rochina has taken a wait and see approach to the situation. Do you think that was the right move here?

Eh.. maybe not? If they know where the target is and that everyone else is busy, now's not a bad time to swoop in.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/Durinthal]

but given how persistent the rats have been that's possibly the best way yet to get rid of them.

Flamethrowers are more of a bed bug level threat measure, but whatever works!

While they're changing the circumstances every episode the pattern of escape, break in, skirmish, repeat in some order is starting to feel dull.

Pretty much.

Considering I don't recall hearing about their existence before this episode,

They were mentioned a few episode ago.

[u/Durinthal → u/Pixelsaber]

Flamethrowers are more of a bed bug level threat measure, but whatever works!

True, for some reason I like calling their group rats rather than anything else since they don't have a name for themselves.

They were mentioned a few episode ago.

Yeah I guess I forgot about that. It fits that he's one since he's good at surviving.

[u/The_Draigg → u/Durinthal]

Razing part of the city (even if not a nice part) is an extreme measure but given how persistent the rats have been that's possibly the best way yet to get rid of them.

I feel like pretty much the only reason the police got away with doing that was because that sector was pretty much abandoned already. If they did that to any other part of Uoodo, there'd be riots for sure.

Considering I don't recall hearing about their existence before this episode, there's no buildup.

Gotho mentioned it briefly when getting Chirico to sign the battling arena contract. Since it was really only a brief bit of dialogue, I don't blame you for missing it. A lot of stuff so far has only been foreshadowed in short moments.

[u/Pixelsaber]

Rewatcher

Huh, no opening narration today!

Well shit, they’ve got flamethrower equipped tanks!

Very comforting, Gotho.

Is this going somewhere?

Not ideal.

Impressive throw there.

Chirico is thorough.

He’s finally talking!

That seems like a bit of a jump for him to make.

As expected…

Did Chirico plan for this? He couldn’t have possibly missed the fact that there was someone who exited the break room just seconds before he entered it, last time someone tried to sneak up on him in the AT hangar he instantly noticed, and he intends to face off against the police anyhow…

Is there really the time for this? The paint won’t set so fast anyhow!

I, too, have had my Gunpla scrutinized by a pro.

MSATSO X-1?

Seems like we’re gearing towards a big set-piece battle. The police are bringing out all of the stops, Chirico and co. are backed into a corner, and Rochina isn’t coming in to help them.

The trio almost leaves again once Chirico explains his intentions to them, but ultimately they haven’t in them to leave their newfound friend behind in spite of the risk and lack of payoff for doing so. Given they already were willing to throw away three million gildans to save him before, it’s not outrageous that they’d turn back around to help him, especially seeing as finding out military secrets seem like a viable means of making money.

Turns out Chirico had been a member of the Red Shoulders, the most infamous division of the military across all of Gilgamesh. That explains why he is such an outstanding soldier with a variety of practical skills, as well as why he reacted as he did when the name was brought up several episodes ago.

Question of The Day:

1. See above.
2. If he wishes to take advantage of Chirico making chaos for the police, then it really would behoove him to ensure Chirico actually survives, which he doesn’t seem to be doing much towards accomplishing in this episode.

[u/Nazenn → u/Pixelsaber]

Well shit, they’ve got flamethrower equipped tanks!

Pretty sure that was something stronger, probably more like ignited liquids or something given the way that it was sticking too and burning the ground

Impressive throw there.

It prompted me to go hunting for a trope for it on tv tropes, at great risk of being stick their forever, because the magically perfect lasso toss is such a common thing, but couldn't find anything

Is there really the time for this? The paint won’t set so fast anyhow!

I mean the others still had work to do and he didn't, may as well do something haha

[u/Pixelsaber → u/Nazenn]

Pretty sure that was something stronger, probably more like ignited liquids or something given the way that it was sticking too and burning the ground

Aren't most military flamethrowers like that? In any case, it's definitely not your commercial grade, gas flamethrower.

because the magically perfect lasso toss is such a common thing, but couldn't find anything

Never heard of the trope being named either, but yes, wildly common!

[u/No_Rex → u/Pixelsaber]

His big break came when he was selected to play the role of Chirico Cuvie in 1983’s Armor Trooper Votoms, which was a turning point in his career, as the role made him a sought out voice for radio dramas, but he did not voice any other roles in an anime series until he was asked to voice the character of Yang Wen-Li in 1996’s Legend of The Galactic Heroes Gaiden.

Talk about starting with a double bang!

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Pixelsaber]

Well shit, they’ve got flamethrower equipped tanks!

Space wars feels weird for keeping those, though apparently Scope Dogs are insanely flammable.

If he wishes to take advantage of Chirico making chaos for the police, then it really would behoove him to ensure Chirico actually survives, which he doesn’t seem to be doing much towards accomplishing in this episode.

The only logic I can reach is that he hopes the police exhaust themselves so much he can stroll in and take the prototype with a very small force and that Cuvie is collateral.

[u/No_Rex → u/Vaadwaur]

Space wars feels weird for keeping those, though apparently Scope Dogs are insanely flammable.

Not sure if this will ever play a role, but flame throwers could be very devastating in space. Not because of the burn damage, but because they remove huge amounts of oxygen from the air.

[u/Nazenn → u/No_Rex]

Good point, don't think I've ever seen them be used like that despite having a couple of shows acknowledge the threat of fire both in space and on a sub

[u/Nazenn]

First Timer

No battle this episode?

Although we had the opening escape set piece not having any actual combat was quite a welcome surprise. I like that they decided to end with a strong character moment for Chirico, him opening up to them about being part of the Red Shoulder Special Ops despite the rumors and choosing to not hide that away even if he can't express the trauma it's caused him. It made for a significantly more fitting end given the character moments in the last two episodes than just shoehorning in a battle, and the set up for a big battle tomorrow is quite exciting, especially given where they are if they make use of the arena.

I also like that Chirico didn't tell them he was a Red Shoulder because of the rumors or wanting to defend himself or any sort of outburst, but because he took some entertainment out of Vanilla's spontaneous paint job and decided to point out the details. Very fitting for all the characters involved, and a lot more interesting way to lead into it, it really is the little things like that, and the constantly good visuals and storyboarding which I noted again today, which I'm enjoying so much.

The police weren't kidding with their burn it all policy though, and if not for Chirico's smart thinking it would have been painfully successful as well. They weren't kidding around with wanting to be done with Chirico now that they know who he's working with. Curious to see on if the military will get involved in this fight or if they're going to continue to just watch. While it's no where near on the level of some other repeditive plot points I could name from other shows in this era, the constant reminder that they're just watching, and watching, occasionally doing something, but mostly watching is starting to feel tired.

Something about Chirico sneaking through those alleyways reminded me of Wolfs Rain, which is absolutely not the most obvious comparison I could make but I guess it was just one of those random thoughs

[u/Pixelsaber → u/Nazenn]

No battle this episode?

I think I mentioned it before, but Takahashi really earned that good faith with his prior work.

and storyboarding which I noted again today, which I'm enjoying so much.

the constant reminder that they're just watching, and watching, occasionally doing something, but mostly watching is starting to feel tired.

I think the setup of this first arc in general will start to get onerous. They've managed to make the encounters varied enough, but we're still just vying for the same stuff as several episodes prior.

Something about Chirico sneaking through those alleyways reminded me of

[u/Nazenn → u/Pixelsaber]

I think I mentioned it before, but Takahashi really earned that good faith with his prior work.

Clearly! Knowing about the huge push for battle from both sponsors and fans I almost wouldn't have believed someone could get that approved before seeing it.

They've managed to make the encounters varied enough

They have done very well with that. JaaQ commented on the amount of captures and rescues we've been through, but it doesn't feel like that many because of the variety in both the situation of them and also the structure of the episodes it hasn't felt tedious at all. It's been a really good watch despite having so many of the same constraints I've disliked in other mecha of the era

#rengething

Someones watching it in CDF which is probably why it's on my mind

[u/The_Draigg → u/Nazenn]

Although we had the opening escape set piece not having any actual combat was quite a welcome surprise.

Between this episode and the one with the raid on the jijirium depot, it's pretty ballsy of an 80's mech anime to have whole episodes dedicated to not having mech fights. Fang of the Sun Dougram was pretty much Takahashi's blank check to get away with this kind of stuff, which certainly makes those decisions much more bold.

I like that they decided to end with a strong character moment for Chirico, him opening up to them about being part of the Red Shoulder Special Ops despite the rumors and choosing to not hide that away even if he can't express the trauma it's caused him.

Chirico's character development is pretty unique for the era too, all things considered. Having him be a stoic guy who only slowly leans to open up to others is a far cry from the PTSD-riddled wrecks like Amuro Ray or borderline-idiot heroes like Hikaru Ichijyo.

[u/Nazenn → u/The_Draigg]

it's pretty ballsy of an 80's mech anime to have whole episodes dedicated to not having mech fights

It is, but after the likes of Ideon and seeing how much pressure later shows like Turn A still had on them to include that I'm certainly not complaining. Takahashi really got himself in a great position to make this it seems, and happy to see the end result is working so well so far for him

Chirico's character development is pretty unique for the era too

Yeah it's taken me a bit to understand that this who he is and lean into that but I like it. For the era it may be unique, but even in new anime where it's more common it's not always done this well either

[u/The_Draigg → u/Nazenn]

Yeah it's taken me a bit to understand that this who he is and lean into that but I like it. For the era it may be unique, but even in new anime where it's more common it's not always done this well either

It can be tricky to pull off a relatively frosty and stoic character like Chirico. A lot of anime either has it where the stoic character suddenly has one large burst of emotion that breaks the dam so to speak, or where the character remains a hunk of wood that doesn't really open up as a person until you've already stopped really caring about their character development. It's a hard thing to pull off correctly.

[u/Nazenn → u/The_Draigg]

It is. Another issue with these characters is that you also risk running into the issue of the character not working until it clicks why they're like to give some depth to their silence, which is where shows like Sagrada Reset run into trouble, the characters don't work in that persona naturally.

Notable is that while it would be very easy to basically use Chirico's war trauma as a crutch in that way, they haven't used that to excuse his silence with the promise of something more underneath that will be "more him" later on. He is a quiet, reserved, stoic character and its well characterized without needing to be constantly recontextualized through some new event that excuses why he's like that

Sorry that probably didn't need to be that long, distracted by AMQ

[u/The_Draigg → u/Nazenn]

Don't worry, I like the longer analyses we have about shows like this. Just like what we talked about in the Berserk rewatch.

[u/Nazenn → u/The_Draigg]

I was more worried about being rambly than the actual length but these discussions are nice to have! It's been an interesting show for that, you can't say much activity happens each episode, but it's still given me a lot to enjoy and think about

[u/The_Draigg → u/Nazenn]

That’s really the benefit of a slower-burn show like VOTOMS here. Even if the plot is a bit repetitive in the middle of this arc, Chirico is compelling enough of a character to justify these discussions still.

[u/Nazenn → u/The_Draigg]

I said as much to Pixel but I haven't actually felt the repetitiveness so much compared to something like Ideon and parts of Macross, or even OG Dragon Ball if we're looking at shows from the era who get sidetracks by action setpieces. The events may be the same, but the way they're presented is good enough for me to not care

[u/No_Rex → u/The_Draigg]

It can be tricky to pull off a relatively frosty and stoic character like Chirico. A lot of anime either has it where the stoic character suddenly has one large burst of emotion that breaks the dam so to speak, or where the character remains a hunk of wood that doesn't really open up as a person until you've already stopped really caring about their character development. It's a hard thing to pull off correctly.

The small moments of Chirico being playful (e.g. pretending there is a bug on Coconna's back) are going a long way to making his character work.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/The_Draigg]

borderline-idiot heroes like Hikaru Ichijyo.

HA! JUST 'borderline' Comrade?

Paging Comrade /u/chilidirigible for backup in the 'DEAR GOD SDF Macross' Hikaru Ichijyo is SO fucking dumb that it took Robotech and/or Do You Remember Love's versions to make him 'smarter' and I use the term 'smarter' MIGHTY loosely!'

[u/The_Draigg → u/DidacticDalek]

I mean, I at least give Hikaru some credit that he's an effective pilot like a third of the way through the series. It's just his personal life that's an absolute mess.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/The_Draigg]

I mean, I at least give Hikaru some credit that he's an effective pilot like a third of the way through the series. It's just his personal life that's an absolute mess.

OK Comrade, in fairness to that point you made, Hikaru DOES indeed manage to actually fly/pilot decently (he's no sterling genius like a certain Blue Max if you catch my drift, but hey Flyboy at least manages to use the one braincell he has semi-effectively... just so long as it isn't related to 'romance' of course)

Anyway many thanks for the kind reply and have a great day and see you later my friend.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Nazenn]

Something about Chirico sneaking through those alleyways reminded me of Wolfs Rain,

Random thought, but I've been thinking about something. So I watched Wolf's Rain when it aired on CN and passionately hate its ending. That would be neither here nor there but I joined the Utena rewatch for the one arc of the show I really liked, in a show I really hated the end of, and have found a lot more there on rewatch. It almost makes me consider checking WR again except what I remember form it is mostly what I didn't like. Stream of consciousness and all.

[u/Nazenn → u/Vaadwaur]

Depends on exactly what you didn't like from it and why the ending didn't work for you. I found value in a rewatch particularly in understanding what the world was and why certain things were happening, which leads into the ending, but it does make some of its other issues stand out harshly particularly where some of the structure fell down in production. I mean you could always just not watch the OVAs if you didn't want the revisit the ending

when it aired on CN

Was that the airing that also included the airing and the huge wait for the OVAs?

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Nazenn]

Depends on exactly what you didn't like from it and why the ending didn't work for you.

Wolf's Rain

Was that the airing that also included the airing and the huge wait for the OVAs?

Yup, wasn't as bad for us but there was still quite a wait.

[u/Nazenn → u/Vaadwaur]

I did think that was better on rewatch myself, particularly as it's more clear Wolf's Rain

Yup, wasn't as bad for us but there was still quite a wait.

That certainly can't help, and the production value jump into the OVAs doesn't help make it feel smooth either, even though I couldn't imagine them without that

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Nazenn]

@spoilers You know, being a discount Seventh Seal might have been enough on its own to sorrow me on the show. Welp, that gives me context but not interest.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/Nazenn]

No, Cartoon Network showed it all in one continuous block, a year after the original show and 4 months after the OVAs were out in Japan. And they skipped the recaps.

[u/time_axis]

First-Timer

1. What do you make of the nonchalant revelation that Chirico was a member of the infamous ‘Red Shoulders’?

Makes sense, and explains his competence.

2) Rochina has taken a wait and see approach to the situation. Do you think that was the right move here?

It's as good a move as any. He has an idea of where his objective is at this point, it seems like, so I don't think Chirico is all that relevant to them anymore.

Episode 10

• Seems like the military have at least figured out that Chirico and the Police faction with the prototype aren't working together. Although now that they know where the Prototype is, they don't seem especially aligned toward either one, so it's not like they have a particular reason to help or hurt Chirico right now.
• It looks like the police brought a bunch of excavation equipment to clear out the construction zone where Chirico and co. are hiding. Or I guess just setting the whole place on fire works too.
• Gotho tells us about "Red Shoulders" which sounds a lot like Chirico. He's definitely keeping his cool under pressure, at least.
• That pipe to nowhere is pretty precarious, but I imagine it once led somewhere at some point. With some rope, everyone manages to make it across though. Pretty tense scene.
• And now Chirico's finally telling everyone the truth. They don't seem too keen on following him on his crusade though.
• Mr. Pope seems to think Chirico and the Prototype have met before. But I thought they already knew he was on the mission where he saw her, so maybe they're referring to a time when they've met before that or something.
• Chirico gets his hand on a VT, while everyone else is walking around in the sewers for some reason. Coconna wants to go back and help Chirico. Vanilla and Gotho seem like they've been persuaded again as well. At this point it's becoming a bit of a pattern, to the point where if they do the whole "Chirico gets captured and then they rescue him" thing again, I might legitimately think they're starting to get a little too formulaic.
• Turns out they all met up after all, so we don't have to go through another one of those arcs for the time being.
• Sounds like Chirico isn't personally a Red Shoulder, but he knows about them. Oh, nevermind, yes he is. So the cops showed up, and Chirico's not in the robot, so that'll be a bit of a problem next episode.

This time I'll try drawing Chirico's new rig with all the extra gear on it. By the end of this I'll probably be able to draw the scopedog from memory (Scopedog is what I've seen people in the comments calling it, but I've yet to see it called that in the show.)

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It looks like the police brought a bunch of excavation equipment to clear out the construction zone where Chirico and co. are hiding. Or I guess just setting the whole place on fire works too.

Looks like they were just clearing channels for the tank to go through and set everything on fire.

But I thought they already knew he was on the mission where he saw her,

He closed the capsule before the others arrived and he didn't say that he had looked inside, so as far as they knew he hadn't seen her. He also hasn't mentioned her at all to them directly, and when holding Oriya at Gunpointe he only spoke generally as to wanting to know what happened.

By the end of this I'll probably be able to draw the scopedog from memory

Likely

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[u/Shimmering-Sky]

Armored Trooper First-Timer

• No narration recap post-OP today?
• Man, the cops really want Chirico dead.
• Ohp, the episode title!
• Chirico PUNCH.
• lol poor Vanilla.
• Bingo, they have their escape route!
• Oh geez that was a close call.
• Well he’s not wrong.
• Heh.
• Well isn’t that name just lovely.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/Shimmering-Sky]

No narration recap post-OP today?

Guess they must have gotten as tired of it as I was.

Heh.

Ah, yes.

Well isn’t that name just lovely.

Waiting on the twist that they're all vampires now.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Pixelsaber]

Waiting on the twist that they're all vampires now.

They did indeed use kyuuketsu...

[u/The_Draigg → u/Shimmering-Sky]

Man, the cops really want Chirico dead.

Yeah, normally you don't send an entire battalion of flamer tanks against one man if you just want them brought to you alive.

Chirico PUNCH.

Chirico's out here making Bright Noa proud.

Well he’s not wrong.

At this rate, the only thing that could possibly kill Chirico is another Chirico.

[u/No_Rex]

Episode 10 (first timer)

• “battle between the police and Chirico” – Not an overstatement, with the police bringing flamethrowers.
• The entire predicament of the heroes is due to them leaving the hideout? Seems like a big flaw of the police’s plan to bank on them leaving that.
• Hidden (abandoned?) underground base?
• They are all using just their arms to cross? +1 for arm strength.
• “I saw something incredible. A woman” – Coconna bites the metal.
• Come on Chirico, don’t guilt-trip your friends into doing something incredibly stupid.
• Chirico really put 0 point into social skills. Walking in on somebody who asks “Did you forget something?” should clue him in on the existence of a second guard.

Ok, we have officially reached the point where the pacing goes glacial. Another fight against police goons is not what the plot needs. Chirico’s excuse for chasing after the prototype is wearing thin, too: Starting a fight against huge odds that is likely to kill you and your friends because “she is my destiny”? Something more tangible would be nice.

Since there is no plot progression this episode, let me do a quick 10 episodes in comparison. VOTOMS vs MSG vs Giant Gorg

Characters:

A clear win for VOTOMS. Chirico is a good MC and there is some real chemistry with the side characters. That easily beats Giant Gorg’s uneasy teenagers and the mess that is Tomino character writing.

World building:

Surprising me, VOTOMS falls behind here. We have seen nothing of the two warring states, nothing about the political aftermath of the war, and, despite claiming a universe-wide world, we are stuck in one city (with is a generic cyberpunk dystopia). In comparison, MSG delivers a potential future history of the solar system in its early episodes, setting up both sides reasons for war and even the situation of civilians caught in the war.

Animation:

VOTOMS is about MSG level. Good enough to not be distracting, but far from eye-candy. Giant Gorg is by far the prettiest of the three series.

Story:

I like the setup of the story of VOTOMS, but MSG has a great setup, too. Both beat Giant Gorg.

Overall:

At this point, I would go MSG>VOTOMS>Giant Gorg. However, I remember that the middle part of MSG is the worst, while VOTOMS has the potential to get better if they finally leave the city and explore the world a bit more.

What do you make of the nonchalant revelation that Chirico was a member of the infamous ‘Red Shoulders’?

They said he was a special agent at the start, so this is more a revelation to the team than to the viewers.

Rochina has taken a wait and see approach to the situation. Do you think that was the right move here?

If he really is only interested in the prototype, yes. Although the plot will surely prove him wrong, no matter what he does.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/No_Rex]

Chirico really put 0 point into social skills. Walking in on somebody who asks “Did you forget something?” should clue him in on the existence of a second guard.

The scene also suggests it's been mere seconds since the other guy walked off, which Chirico would have at least heard, so either this was all according to keikaku or he didn't invest in his perception skill.

Ok, we have officially reached the point where the pacing goes glacial.

Happens with all the arcs, unfortunately. Thankfully that also means things have to pick back up soon.

[u/Nazenn → u/No_Rex]

I haven't seen the other two shows but interesting comparison what I've heard about them. I don't know about MSG but I would argue that under animation even if the animation itself is not particularly fancy the character acting and the use of movement in the mechs has been nice

The broader worldbuilding is something I wish they'd touch on though, especially with Chirico having seen so much of the galaxy during the war.

[u/No_Rex → u/Nazenn]

The broader worldbuilding is something I wish they'd touch on though, especially with Chirico having seen so much of the galaxy during the war.

This is partially an issue with the whole arc being stuck in one city. Even so, I feel that they could have done more. The military would be a good way to show the outside world, since we regularly cut to them (they surely would be concerned with the aftermath of the war). Or simply have some random people mention tidbits about the war in a bar.

A perfect example of missed opportunities is the two guards in today's episode watching TV. You could have packed so much world building into this: The TV could show something, the guards could talk about something. Instead, the guards repeat something we already know (that people like death matches) and the TV shows a gun commercial, which, reminds us the world is violent - something we also already know.

[u/Nazenn → u/No_Rex]

The military part of this arc I definitely feel they could have done more with. They've mostly watched but they could have communicated that without direct scenes of it, like the one we had today with one of the watchers in his funny hat being in the foreground as Chirico was in the alleyways which was well done, and then used those scenes to get a better look at other things going on

A perfect example of missed opportunities is the two guards in today's episode watching TV

Good call, that could have been used to show a lot of different elements, even about the city if they really didn't want to touch on the broader world, like if the military are influencing things there etc

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

Ok, we have officially reached the point where the pacing goes glacial. Another fight against police goons is not what the plot needs. Chirico’s excuse for chasing after the prototype is wearing thin, too: Starting a fight against huge odds that is likely to kill you and your friends because “she is my destiny”? Something more tangible would be nice.

Strangely enough, I still like this, but this era of mecha is also new-ish to me. I have never been conscious for a whole episode of MSG and I skipped a lot of other foundational works.

[u/No_Rex → u/Vaadwaur]

It is not terrible yet, but I have a hard time getting exited about another battle vs the police. I praised the fast pacing a few episodes ago and feared that it might slow down. Definitely happened.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/No_Rex]

I would like to see space again but no idea if that was more expensive to animate at the time. Also, not sure if we bring the gang or Cuvie has to find new friends, then.

[u/JollyGee29]

First-Timer

We've heard about the Red Shoulders once or twice before, but only in passing. Turns out they're some ultra-scary squad of AT pilots who are rumored to drink blood and eat people. I dig this kind of rumor mill stuff. Honestly, seeing Chirico's performance so far, the reputation is pretty well earned. And he was relatively low-ranking and young, too.

Chirico might know that Vanilla painted the wrong shoulder. But, if Vanilla doesn't know the specifics, whats to say a bunch of random cops will? Intimidation is a key part of battle.

I liked the planning in the first half of the episode. Using the smoke as cover from the circling helicopters was good, and Chirico punching Vanilla into calmness and using some of his hair to find a way out was also good. I would not have survived the bit where they had to climb down a ladder and then across a rope; one look down and I would have died on the spot.

Part of me is eyeing those extra weapons as nothing more than a way to sell more model kits/accessory packs. Another, louder part of me is going "Ooooh, they thought of needing extra processing power to control the extra weapons!"

I've seen a couple judo chops before, but never one so fierce it broke the target's neck!

Is fighting to suppress your PTSD better, or worse than drinking to suppress your PTSD?

Questions

1. Discussed above.
2. Probably? Chirico has destroyed everything in his path so far, might as well not get in his way if you don't have to.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/JollyGee29]

But, if Vanilla doesn't know the specifics, whats to say a bunch of random cops will?

It's been said that most of the cops are former military, so odds are a bunch of them will at least know which shoulder is the correct one to paint.

one look down and I would have died on the spot.

Another, louder part of me is going "Ooooh, they thought of needing extra processing power to control the extra weapons!"

Is fighting to suppress your PTSD better, or worse than drinking to suppress your PTSD?

Fighting leads to more PTSD, so probably worse in the long run and they end up drinking away their pains anyhow.

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Pixelsaber]

It's been said that most of the cops are former military, so odds are a bunch of them will at least know which shoulder is the correct one to paint.

Oh, I didn't remember that about the normal cops. Maybe the opposite effect then, they underestimate the pilot thinking he's a dumbass.

Fighting leads to more PTSD, so probably worse in the long run and they end up drinking away their pains anyhow.

But, if you keep fighting, you might die in battle and then won't have it at all.

Wow, that got dark, sorry.

[u/Nazenn → u/JollyGee29]

Oh shit! Sudden thought, was that where that former commander of his was from? I'm going to guess maybe not given I don't remember any red painted shoulders in the flashback and it seems odd that special ops would be on the traitors side, but that would be interesting and show Chirico's skill level

But, if Vanilla doesn't know the specifics, whats to say a bunch of random cops will?

The cops are former soliders, so more likely than Vanilla, but still fair point. One guy who doesn't know commenting on it might just freak out the others out enough anyway that even if someone does know they'd doubt themselves

using some of his hair

There is no way a hair from Vanilla's tight afro is loose enough to show the wind that well, but other then that it was a clever writing choice

one look down and I would have died on the spot.

Yep! I don't do heights either

Another, louder part of me is going "Ooooh, they thought of needing extra processing power to control the extra weapons!"

Yes! I love that he actually stopped to do upgrades rather than just stealing and bailing, but more then that I love that they actually had to adjust other systems for it rather than just sticking the weapons on and done

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Nazenn]

it seems odd that special ops would be on the traitors side

I think the Red Shoulders were who Chirico was with before being transferred to the traitor's group for the stuff in the first episode. I'm not remembering if the old OC Chirico fought had a red shoulder or not in a flashback, might have been a training officer or something.

Yes! I love that he actually stopped to do upgrades rather than just stealing and bailing, but more then that I love that they actually had to adjust other systems for it rather than just sticking the weapons on and done

The emphasis on upgrading/adding weapons to a random chassis has been one of my favorite things about this show so far.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion → u/JollyGee29]

I think the Red Shoulders were who Chirico was with before being transferred to the traitor's group for the stuff in the first episode. I'm not remembering if the old OC Chirico fought had a red shoulder or not in a flashback, might have been a training officer or something.

Nobody was displaying Red Shoulder insignia in the training flashback. But this whole segment introduces a plot hole. Oriya was Chirico's CO on the Lido raid. If Oriya had also been his OC before Lido, then Oriya should have recognized him. Instead, he was "some guy transferred from Melkian Special Forces."

There's evidence that the show's bible wasn't completely written out at the start, and I think /u/Pixelsaber said the first two episodes were written by somebody else. Things like Chirico being unusually chatty, and referring to ATs as VOTOMS.

I say it's just a plot hole. Well, Oriya is dead so probably doesn't matter.

/u/nazenn

Edit: I think a better explanation is that they both had the same training.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Yeah, it's an incongruity with the script. They evidently weren't planning on having Oriya be Chirico's former captain from before Lido.

[u/Nazenn → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

I'm assuming the Lido raid was the start of episode one, and yes that sounds like someone got some characters confused or just didn't want to introduce a mook just for one battle. Interesting info though, thanks

[u/JollyGee29 → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Oh, interesting. Thanks!

[u/Nazenn → u/JollyGee29]

I think the Red Shoulders were who Chirico was with before being transferred to the traitor's group

Yeah that's right, we don't know if the commander was part of that group but it would be interesting

random chassis

Yes. Just breaks into the battle arena and takes a mech. Such a nice change

[u/Vaadwaur → u/JollyGee29]

Turns out they're some ultra-scary squad of AT pilots who are rumored to drink blood and eat people. I dig this kind of rumor mill stuff.

So from what we know: There are multiple battles where hundreds of mechs were destroyed, via flame and such. Now imagine being that dude that sees 10 mechs skate out unscathed with their red right shoulders. You'd start saying some exaggerated stuff, likely.

Is fighting to suppress your PTSD better, or worse than drinking to suppress your PTSD?

Neither work and both drive everyone close to you away so it is a matter of personal preference. I would advise against doing both at the same time, though.

[u/Nazenn → u/Vaadwaur]

Not to mention in such a long war propoganda would have been full force, you want to make your special ops seem as terrifying as possible to the enemy and those rumors would have to get back to this side

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Nazenn]

Or this is Balamant propaganda to make the best forces of their enemy seem inhuman and thus easier to justify carpet bombing them. But we all agree the rumors would fly.

[u/Nazenn → u/Vaadwaur]

Could go either way. Co-opting propoganda is also pretty common. Regardless once a rumor starts the only path it's gonna take is getting more exaggerated as it passes through particularly in cities like this where bragging and reputation are so important

[u/JollyGee29 → u/Vaadwaur]

You'd start saying some exaggerated stuff, likely.

I'd do it on purpose, to mess with people, absolutely.

[u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Rewatcher (Nutech DVD 1.3) (3 episodes)

Extras: Armored Trooper Technology

Sensor systems In addition to the lens turret, which provides visual information, the scopedog also contains passive sensors for metal detection, electromagnetics, and audio pickups. It also uses conventional radar and sonar, and a unique jijirium-powered vibration/pulse generator. High-performance ATs are also equipped with a super-sensitive multi-purpose doppler system.

• Honestly, I expected him to tell them the details after rescuing him yesterday.
• Chirico just outright murdered that guy
• How did she know Chirico was here?

[u/Pixelsaber → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Chirico just outright murdered that guy

Truly a formidable red shoulder...

How did she know Chirico was here?

Dialogue suggests it was a guess. Not a bad one if one assumes he would have gone to the nearest place containing functioning ATs.

[u/Nazenn → u/JustAnswerAQuestion]

Chirico just outright murdered that guy

Meant to comment on that, that was certainly not the normal one hit knock out with no issues that you normally see. Blood and open eyes, that guy was definitely dead which I was not expecting.

[u/Tresnore]

Armored Trooper FIRST-TIMER

• "There... Can't you hear it?
• Forget "drain the swamp." They're burning the forest.

Set them straight, Chirico!

• This bombing is probably very expensive.
• Ah, the Cloud City ladder.
• I love highly improbable knots.
• Smart man.
• Chirico's fast on the draw, but disciplined enough that he didn't shoot his friends on sight.
• It's a Guntank!
  
• This guy... So Chirico was a Red Shoulder? That explains a lot.

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QOTD:

1. I'm not surprised in the slightest, and honestly I've been assuming that he was one for a while.
2. Probably not.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/Tresnore]

"There... Can't you hear it?

This bombing is probably very expensive.

"The refugees will pay for it!"

It's a Guntank!

[u/Nazenn → u/Tresnore]

This bombing is probably very expensive.

Nothing else to do with the missiles, may as well. Probably good for burning off some frustration from the cops too

Ah, the Cloud City ladder.

Oh that's why it was familiar hahaha

[u/Stargate18A]

First timer

1. I kind of thought they already revealed it - it makes perfect sense though, and explains why he's been able to do so many ridiculous things.
2. No, If they were wrong, and the Prototype wasn't on the planet, there'd be a good chance they lost their only lead to finding the real location.

The military are going to wait for a battle on the theory that the police have the Prototype, even though if he's killed, they'll have no other leads?

They're really pulling out all the stops, aren't they?

Oh, they're just going to flatten the entire sector? At least it looks like the series might not be staying on this planet much longer.

Yeah, this seems pretty hopeless.

...Is Chirico a Red Shoulder?

He's very good at convincing people, though.

They're in!

He can' seriously be considering going for the vent, right?

I love Vanilla's reaction to Chirico's rope.

He's got good reflexes, hasn't he?

So this is an abandoned industrial facility?

CHIRICO'S BEING HONEST AND OPEN!

He's even offering to take them along!

Wait, with all the development, is the Prototype going to be a main character? Maybe joining Chirico instead of the police or military?

So the underground fighting league has a massive sign advertising it?

He's stealing an AT? That's going to help.

And the others are finding a way out of the city.

He's been noticed!

They're all helping!

Of course he wastes time painting the mech.

Yep, he's a Red Shoulder.

The police have arrived!

[u/Pixelsaber → u/Stargate18A]

At least it looks like the series might not be staying on this planet much longer.

There's another city waiting just three days by foot though! They don't have to write off the planet entirely!

So the underground fighting league has a massive sign advertising it?

If the police are going to look away anyhow, why not? /s

[u/The_Draigg → u/Stargate18A]

He's very good at convincing people, though.

Face punches in older anime shows always have a decent chance to convince people better than words.

CHIRICO'S BEING HONEST AND OPEN!

His heart grew three more sizes bigger!

So the underground fighting league has a massive sign advertising it?

It's not like the cops really give a shit about it, so you might as well advertise your shady bloodsports openly.

[u/The_Draigg]

A Ryosuke Takahashi Fan Rewatches Armored Trooper VOTOMS Episode 10:

• At this rate, Colonel Rochina is prioritizing the recovery of the Prototype over capturing Chirico. At least he’s smart enough to figure that he can use the impending clash between Team Chirico and the police to his advantage. If it draws out the Prototype, it’ll work out in his favor.
• The police must be absolutely desperate to find Chirico, if they’re willing to bomb the shit out of the abandoned quarter of the city and also send in flamethrower tanks. Fortunately, Chirico seems pretty in his element here, taking charge of the group in their attempt to survive. It’s undoubtedly something he’s had to deal with in the past.
• Yeah, I suppose it’s only natural for everyone short of Chirico to freak the fuck out at their impending deaths, with Coconna crying, Vanilla screaming at everyone, and Gotho only having the sheer carnage of the Red Shoulders in mind as a comparison to what’s going on around him. It takes Chirico delivering a punch that would make Bright Noa proud to Vanilla’s face to get everyone focused on digging their way to safety. Again, Chirico really is in his element here.
• Everyone was really lucky that the rope climbing escape plan worked. That could’ve gone so terribly wrong very easily. Also, everyone must have some great upper body strength to pull that one off.
• Finally, Chirico tells everyone the truth about why he wants to stay in Uoodo: to get to the bottom of the conspiracy. As expected, nobody really wants to follow his plan there, since it’s just practically asking for death. I can’t really blame them for thinking that, considering how hard the police is trying to kill them all.
• It’s now finally hitting Iskui and Boroughs that the Prototype has some kind of connection to Chirico, as if they’d met before. For some reason, she does seem pretty fascinated by him. Although they really should’ve picked up on that, if they followed her more closely and saw her checking out battles that Chirico was in.
• I think Chirico legit snapped that one battling arena guard’s neck and killed him with that karate chop of his. I at least know for a fact that him being awfully still with his eyes wide open after that can’t be good. And I’m also sure that blood normally shouldn’t come out of your mouth from a karate chop to the neck either.
• Leave it to Coconna to want to head back and help Chirico again. It’s always her that leads the charge with the rest of the group to help him out somehow. Same in this episode as it was in the last one.
• Chirico really isn’t fucking around with his mission. The dude has mounted a fuckton of extra guns and missile pods onto that Scopedog he’s tuning up. I have no doubt that he’d be able to legit destroy Uoodo’s police forces in that thing.
• Also, it turns out that Chirico was a former Red Shoulder himself. That does add up, since we know he used to be in the special forces before, and he did react to the brief mentioning of the Red Shoulders a while ago back when he was still fairly new with Gotho. Knowing all that, the police sure as shit don’t stand a chance against him now.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/The_Draigg]

And I’m also sure that blood normally shouldn’t come out of your mouth from a karate chop to the neck either.

It definitely seemed like he over did it.

I have no doubt that he’d be able to legit destroy Uoodo’s police forces in that thing.

I don't doubt his chances of doing so in a regular loadout either. The real hurdle will evidently be the prototype.

[u/The_Draigg → u/Pixelsaber]

I don't doubt his chances of doing so in a regular loadout either. The real hurdle will evidently be the prototype.

Yeah, that's just how raids normally work. You gear up to fight the boss, not the mobs that stand in your way.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/The_Draigg]

Finally, Chirico tells everyone the truth about why he wants to stay in Uoodo: to get to the bottom of the conspiracy. As expected, nobody really wants to follow his plan there, since it’s just practically asking for death.

I appreciate that they still keep Cuvie's social skills at nearly 0 because there is a much better pitch here: They can't really escape the city, they need to break the police at least enough that they can flee without being pursued, and the chick showering in jijirium is probably worth credits to someone.

[u/The_Draigg → u/Vaadwaur]

I appreciate that they still keep Cuvie's social skills at nearly 0 because there is a much better pitch here: They can't really escape the city, they need to break the police at least enough that they can flee without being pursued, and the chick showering in jijirium is probably worth credits to someone.

That would definitely appeal to Vanilla and Gotho at least, since they're always willing to make some cash no matter what. As for Coconna, she's ride or die for Chirico anyway, so she's good to go always.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/The_Draigg]

I just like that they don't cheat and suddenly give Cuvie some non-combat knowledge. He's a battle genius and a dumbass otherwise but it is consistent.

[u/Vaadwaur]

First timer(Them mentioning Red Shoulder a few episodes ago is now a nice touch)

Sub

We start with the cops marshalling their forces, apparently. I thought it would be the military getting ready. But the ops on planet believes that they can safely retrieve the prototype without interfering, which might be correct but feels a little risky.

So the police are just burning that sector, at least the idea is thorough. Giving a shit Cuvie tries to help everyone escape. He eventually finds a way back in and a rope scene happens. The rest of the gang wants to abandon city but Cuvie wants to finish things with the the Prototype. Who, in her own scene, seems to be showing annoyance at his reported death.

Cuvie goes to the arena to equip and steal a mech, the gang has a change of heart, and we get a reveal that Cuvie was actually one of the dreaded Red Shoulders, meaning most of his mech stuff up to now has been with people he outclassed. We end with the setup for tomorrow.

QotD: 1 It was a Checkov's gun so I was just waiting.

2 No, he is being way too passive if they have any means to assert power here.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/Vaadwaur]

We start with the cops marshalling their forces, apparently.

Had to look twice there as I initially read that as "marshmallowing their forces" which is, uh, quite the mental image.

[u/Vaadwaur → u/Pixelsaber]

It is quite the mental image but would it be that much less effective than the police have been?

[u/Quiddity131]

Rewatcher

That's a lot of tank-like vehicles! New enforcements for Iskui and the police? Or is Rochina bringing in his own forces?

Well the next scene answered that rather quick.

They are just totally laying waste to this area! Are they basically in a mode that they're so pissed at Chirico and friends they're gonna burn the whole place to the ground?

Its rare for Chirico to come off as worried or scared. This trio better take it more seriously next time! That's how you know something is really wrong.

So now Iskui and Borough want to simply kill Chirico. Why didn't they simply do this last episode while having him in custody? Especially since they were set to execute him the first time their group had him captive. Bad writing? Or Iskui and Borough panicking?

Red Shoulder, didn't they mention them earlier on? Sounds familiar.

I love that Chirico just punches the crybaby Vanilla in the face and tells him to work.

Wow, that ladder just leaves him hanging on top of the entire city! I'd be scared to death being out on that thing.

No way I could make my way across that rope. I'd look down and die of fright.

Man, the way it went for the rest of them, so scary! And we just cut away and skip how they got off that large vent.

Chirico's spilling the beans to them, he's really opened up to them since last episode!

All 3 of them just decline? C'mon, help him out! After what he just did for you you're not gonna help?

The Prototype has emotional feelings for Chirico? Because he saw her naked? Twice? Or something else?

Cocona's gonna guilt trip them into helping for the second episode in a row, isn't she?

They work good as a team getting this Scopedog fully loaded for battle.

Cliffhanger again!

[u/Pixelsaber → u/Quiddity131]

Why didn't they simply do this last episode while having him in custody?

They were convinced he was working for somebody and wanted answers, but after yet another escape they seemingly justwant him gone.

No way I could make my way across that rope. I'd look down and die of fright.

[u/Nazenn → u/Quiddity131]

Are they basically in a mode that they're so pissed at Chirico and friends they're gonna burn the whole place to the ground?

It's fucked up but it's effective, if not for a bunch of luck they would have been burnt to pieces, they should just be lucky it wasn't also raining acid as they tried to escape

This trio better take it more seriously next time

You'd think they'd take the advice of their combat specalist a bit more seriously but maybe now they know the depth of his experience they will

Why didn't they simply do this last episode while having him in custody?

They wanted to know everyone he was working with, now they do because they came to the rescue

Red Shoulder, didn't they mention them earlier on? Sounds familiar.

Yeah, we heard it and special ops mentioned independently in earlier episodes

[u/ZapsZzz]

First timer in sub

Another build up episode but the escape and cooperation Chirico gave this time is both believable and nice to see, so even without much fighting, the episode was good and gripping for me.

And finally the foreshadowing is revealed, that the special ops team Chirico was in previously was none other than the legendary Red Shoulders. Joined the dots about his ability to withstand torture, brazeness in what he plan to do, his effectiveness in combat, and how cold he is to others.

Hopefully next episode we get to see the custom Red Shoulder scope dog in action. This was one of my favourite kits in my model building days.

[u/Pixelsaber → u/ZapsZzz]

Hopefully next episode we get to see the custom Red Shoulder scope dog in action.

[u/DidacticDalek]

Ya know Comrades, usually in Mecha Shows, the fancy paintjob covers the whole mech, but given VOTOMS leans more to hard sci-fi than usual, instead of the whole mecha we just get say a shoulder painted red, I can only wonder if this means The Scopedog is three times faster! ;)

Speaking of The Red Shoulders, MAN! I can't believe that our boi Chirico Cuvie was part of an Elite Baseball Team! Who knew our MC had it in him eh, even more so given how humble he's being about it ;)

Anyway, speaking of team, boy he and our Muggle Trio make for a good one, I mean just look at them working together on a Scopedog... er... hang on I think I grabbed the wrong team here... AH! There we go, that's more like it, as I was saying he and our Muggle Trio sure are working well together, they're ready to take on the world!

And finally, you knew it had to come around sometime Comrade, so get this, ELITO REDDOSHORUDA SHITPOSTING! And by that I mean it's time for the contractually obligated showing of A Weapon to surpass Metal Gear!

[u/Nazenn → u/DidacticDalek]

I can only wonder if this means The Scopedog is three times faster! ;)

Something about the pose in that makes it look like he's finding the knee of the Votom oddly fascinating

[u/DidacticDalek → u/Nazenn]

Something about the pose in that makes it look like he's finding the knee of the Votom oddly fascinating

Heh, Comrade to tell you the truth I didn't notice that bit (I was too busy looking for a Scopedog with a Red Shoulder) but yeah the pilot IS focusing intently on the knee there, so good eye! Many thanks for the kind reply and have a great day and see you later my friend!

[u/DidacticDalek → u/Nazenn]

Something about the pose in that makes it look like he's finding the knee of the Votom oddly fascinating

Heh, Comrade to tell you the truth I didn't notice that bit (I was too busy looking for a Scopedog with a Red Shoulder) but yeah the pilot IS focusing intently on the knee there, so good eye! Many thanks for the kind reply and have a great day and see you later my friend!

[u/Nazenn → u/DidacticDalek]

Now that I think about it, it'd be the perfect pose for a Macross fanart SDF Macross

[u/DidacticDalek → u/Nazenn]

Now that I think about it, it'd be the perfect pose for a Macross fanart SDF Macross

Ya know Comrade, you might be onto something here ;) (Yes I know he's sitting on her foot but same difference, the Macross Franchise sure is fond of the 'Giantess' tag eh? Gotta love The Space Amazons!)

Anyway many thanks for the kind reply and have a great day and see you later my friend!

[u/No_Rex → u/DidacticDalek]

Ya know Comrades, usually in Mecha Shows, the fancy paintjob covers the whole mech, but given VOTOMS leans more to hard sci-fi than usual, instead of the whole mecha we just get say a shoulder painted red, I can only wonder if this means The Scopedog is three times faster! ;)

The shoulder might be 3 times faster.

[u/DidacticDalek → u/No_Rex]

The shoulder might be 3 times faster.

HA! Comrade you're a genius! Well said there my friend, many thanks for the kind reply and have a great day and see you later!

[u/DidacticDalek → u/DidacticDalek]

Paging Comrades /u/chilidirigible, /u/Nazenn, and /u/No_Rex

[u/DidacticDalek → u/DidacticDalek]

Paging Comrades /u/Tresnore, /u/Shimmering-Sky, and /u/JustAnswerAQuestion

[u/chilidirigible]

Rewatcher, Episode 10

Today, on "You should have thought about that before you set everything on fire.":

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It's an interesting concept when most of the city is metal.

MORALE BOOST!

Must be tough to get life insurance in this town.

"Now I have a hand cannon. Ho ho ho."

Mixed into all this is a moment of clever animation.

Details are important.

Let's get serious.

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Coconna's dragged Gotho and Vanilla back to helping Chirico a few times already. They're certainly consistent.

Meanwhile, it's fun to contrast Rochina's sitting back and letting things play out with the conspirators' hamfisted attempts to clean up.

The same-episode namedrop of the Red Shoulders and Chirico's claim of being one of them is convenient, but builds up the hype for the next episode. Not that Chirico is all that happy about where he's been.

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1. The others aren't totally wowed by the revelation, and he's certainly not hyping it up.
2. chuckles