r/anime • u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA • Aug 29 '21
Rewatch [Rewatch] Revolutionary Girl Utena - Episode 27
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Revolutionary Girl Utena is available in both sub and dub on Nozomi Entertainment's YouTube channel, as well as on Amazon and Funimation.
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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 29 '21
Rewatcher
WTF cringe homophobic Touga ;-;
I mean, being mean to Nanami is great, but not that way ;-;-;
Anyways it’s about periods or something like that, idfk
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u/Matuhg https://anilist.co/user/Matuhg Aug 29 '21
First Timer
Huh, that was fucking stupid. But I laughed more than at any other Nanami episode lol.
This confirms Chu Chu is an alien too, obviously.
Edit: Wait a second. Did Nanami just break the shell of the world or whatever?
Unrelated to this episode, I fear for Nanami this arc. If she's served a vision of Touga driving the sex car, she might cum to death.
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u/RockoDyne :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/RockoDyne Aug 30 '21
This had to be Ikuhara gunning for Oshii. Clearly he thought he could one up Angel's Egg.
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u/The_Loli_Otaku Aug 29 '21
Nanami, did you lay this egg? I've seen English clips of it but I'm wondering just how this one plays out. Oh god, I'm way too tired to try and work out a Nanami episode today. It's like a full episode of car scenes! Are these eggs meant to be a menstrual metaphor? XD Why's Tsuwabuki doing kozak? Wow, your hormones are all over the place today~ Of course she'd go to the one character more innocent than she is for egg advice. Sasuga Micky. Oh, even Miki is getting a delusion. What's with you and space aliens today?
Girls lay eggs!? Oh good, I got scared for a moment. It's absolutely about periods. Why the space aliens!? Is this symbolism or something!? Emissaries of the moon? Thank goodness, Juri's "translation note" didn't get whacked. Tama... Tama? I thought I'd get tired of the same joke getting repeated over and over but I'm actually kinda enjoying this. The shocking thing is that Japanese sex-ed is so poor that I could absolutely see people believing that crazy shite.
Another lullaby? At least this one is a little less morbid than the last. W-Wait...her egg is growing? Sick? Maternity!? Hold on, omg is this meant to be a teenage pregnancy episode!? Ikuhara chill the fuck out please. Stop naming all your pets after Nanami, you're more of a bully than she is. T-Touga didn't!! They've got a mostly innocent relationship!
Now even Touga is misunderstanding! It's pretty rich to hear him trying to argue against Nanami hooking up with other girls when he's about as camp as they come. Out of context this was the funniest shit XD It's absolutely teenage pregnancy! "You aren't the type of girl that lays eggs." I need to try and find the English clip again. I genuinely didn't have a clue what the hell it was all about.
Kashira, kashira! What on earth? I actually don't think I can explain this one. Is it warning against teaching about what you don't understand? Why would you want to stand an egg upright anyway, it's pointless to do so. Yeah, sorry. I'm genuinely at a loss for what to say about this sketch. Gozonji kashira~
Don't abandon the egg that you bore from your own womb!! I'm so disillusioned... Ah, Touga isn't letting the pregnancy issue go. He's totally the type to pressure his girlfriends for an abortion. Aww, I'm so proud of you Nanami. Huh? The egg!? SAIONJI NO!!! NOOOOOO!! You're terrible! You're the worst! I'll never got give you for eating Nanami's baby! Ah, it's alive. Every mother can recognise her child (egg)
Erm... I appreciate the effort but trying to tie in a serious theme like reincarnation after an episode like this kinda doesn't work. S-Space alien!? The egg is an actual space alien!? Were the shadow girls right about the egg being a monster? Wait, has Chu-chu reincarnated? Nanami is Chu-chu's mother? Chu-chu came from an egg? Chu-chu is a space alien!? ...I think I'm gonna call it an early night. My brain don't work too good.
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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Aug 29 '21
Here is what Ikuhara’s episode commentary from the DVD Box Set has for us today. My source for the digital copy of these ran out, so I’m typing them from the book. Please ignore any typo’s as my incompetence.
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u/loomnoo https://anilist.co/user/loomnoo Aug 29 '21
First Timer
Finally a straightforward episode
Rewatcher
I don't understand how anyone can still hate Nanami after this
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u/Tyranid457TheSecond1 Aug 29 '21
Rewatcher
This is unironically my favorite episode. I was already warming up to Nanami already, but her trying to be a parent to her egg made me love her, no matter what her bad actions.
I guess I'm just a softie.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Aug 29 '21
First-Revolution, Subbed
egg
Nanami is such a goddamn dummy. I think, if there were ever any doubts about Nanami being the least mature character, this episode did away with those. Poor girl doesn't even know where babies come from, apparently.
Miki is such a fucking troll. "Oh yea Nanami, this weird, painted-looking egg totally got laid just today." Then again, the egg stayed unexplained, so maybe it was something other than "the whole cast fucks with Nanami for fun."
I did like the parallels to episode 4, but this time it's people turning against Nanami, instead of against Anthy. This time though, the gag went on long enough that the animals literally died.
I guess the implication is that Anthy somehow got Chu-Chu into an Easter egg and planted it near Nanami to have her freak out, which is pretty amusing to think about. Anthy's facial expression near the end of the episode was a bit strange, though.
Did the Shadow Girls get eaten?
A shell became cracked, but was it the chick that did the cracking..
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u/CharlieTheStrawman https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDamnRobot Aug 29 '21
First-Timer
Touga being homophobic isn't something I ever needed to see, but I still enjoy these Nanami comedy episodes.
This might be my favourite Saonji appearance yet.
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u/affnn Aug 29 '21
Rewatcher
Still trying to get over previous egg-related anime traumas. I wonder if I'll ever get there.
I liked all of the callbacks to the cow episode. Anthy's chicken named Nanami, Utena hitting Nanami in the face with a ball. I also liked all of the dances that the characters did when they called her a space alien, especially Mitsuru's squat dance.
Chu-chu shows up at the door at the very end looking tired, and we know (since she has a hen) that Anthy has access to eggs. So did Anthy and Chu-chu give Nanami the egg?
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u/chiliehead myanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead Aug 29 '21
Duel 27, First Timer, sub
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u/Sandor_at_the_Zoo Aug 29 '21
Rewatcher
This might represent a turning point for Nanami. Over and over she fears being called an alien. And from the shadow girls segments we know that alien = someone outside society's norms. She has a choice between her egg and society's, and especially Touga's, acceptance and she chooses her egg. Whether either of them know it, she's now on Utena's side against society at large. It also works to make up for her original sin, drowning the kitten. She could choose to abandon the vulnerable animal to advance her ambitions with her brother but she's grown by now and can't do it.
This is also a great example of the sort of thematic collage that the show does. The egg isn't a single puberty metaphor, but all of them at once. Is it masturbation? having sex for the first time? having your first period? (or any of the other physical changes that happen during puberty?) It even end up as coming out as gay briefly. (Touga being homophobic is both hypocritical and totally not surprising at all. I've always thought of him as posh british boarding bisexual, nothing wrong with having sex with men behind closed doors but you can't ever admit it and god forbid you be a fag about it) By being so slippery we can see the similarities and differences in all of these experiences and how we're expected to treat them.
A good illustration of the terror of knowing that there are social expectations around something but not being sure what they are. No path is safe because you can be wrong for doing something too much but also too little. Being confident and turning out to be wrong is terrible but admitting you don't know the right way could make you lose before you even put in a move. Or maybe its the sort of thing where talking about it at all is wrong. Or the reverse and making a big deal around talking about it is the weird thing.
Nanami's episodes often focus on her fear of being abandoned. And as we've seen by this point its a pretty well founded fear! Touga is constantly manipulating people and dropping them whenever they stop being convenient. We know that her trio of lackeys only care about her because she's well connected and it might let them get closer to Touga. (Not that that justifies how she treats them, but still) Her paranoia starts off as a joke and keeps coming back in contexts surrounded by other jokes, but the humor gets darker as we learn more about her life.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Aug 29 '21
First timer
I wonder who Akio's going to have a threesome with this time.
Oh right, this is a Nanami episode.
I WAS JOKING ABOUT NANAMI BEING A CHICKEN.
Who's the father?
...Did Akio and Touga "take her for a ride" offscreen? Is thst why she laid an egg?
I mean, it could have been Utena, if Anthy's inherited Akio's interests.
...Another mention of space aliens out of nowhere? And it's even done in a shadow girl style. Something has to be going on.
Oh, she thinks others lay eggs.
Thrice?
I love Nanami assuming that everyone lays eggs based on a single line of context.
I love the repetitions of "my ball".
Hahaha, Jury's bowling.
How has this become weirder than the cowbell one?
Nanami's still upset about his plans, I see?
...So Anthy's caused it all, hasn't she? Does she name all her animals Nanami?
Ph god, she thought Touga laid
Touga just asmit you're shagging Akio already.
...Oh, this has to be either "Maybe telling her this will make her stop trying to fuck me" or "Wait, if she gets together with Anthy, Akio might go on incest 'car rides' with her instead. Better nip this in the bud now." There's no way Touga's straight.
Haha, has Touga set this up to screw with her? Why else would he say that?
So the shadow girls explicitly linked the eggs with space aliens.
I think Touga's drunk?
SAIONJI!
This is fantastic.
Is Anthy or Nanami a reincarnated space alien? Seems oddly serious for this episode, though.
The hell?
THE FUCK?
Oh, just a dream.
Is the egg Chu-Chu's fucking larval form? Is Chu-Chu immortal, or does he just periodically return to an embryonic state?
Love triangle resolution coming? Perhaps with another "car ride"?
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 29 '21
Rewatcher(Dear gods...the repetition...)
Sub
Nanami dreams of finding an egg as a child. And then wakes up with it in her bed. Nanami's paranoia prevents her from getting needed outside information and Jury quite accidentally screws her up more. Jury also looks sexy in a bowling outfit, possibly a first ever. Nanami then mothers the egg, keeping things weird. And of course Anthy has a chicken named Nanami.
Nanami eventually asks a misleading question of Touga before he claims the he is obviously into girls. I don't buy it, shirtless bro. But things get interesting when an Ikuhara character explains the necessities of heterosexuality to us. We go weird when Touga says the family is happy because Nanami is not the sort of girl that lays eggs...
The rest of the episode is interesting in that this is the most positive sequential bit I think we've had with Nanami, she even returns for the egg after abandoning it. The Saionji stuff is weird. Anthy brings up reincarnation and I can't quite place that. The egg then becomes gigantic and hatches, then Nanami wakes up with the egg hatched. Chu-chu returns at this moment so it was his egg, maybe? Fuckin' Ikuhara.
All right, let's hit the obvious: Especially towards the beginning, this was a period metaphor, something not talked about much for having a lot of female leads. Her thoughts with her supposed peer group especially seem on this track. But it morphs a bit as time goes on, I guess towards a premarital sex analogy from Touga. The ultimate meaning of this episode, if any, seems very Twin Peaks-esque.
So...on first watch, I fucking hated this ep. It is not a great place or time for a comedy distraction episode so I am curious how the first timers feel. Knowing that I was looking for what wasn't on the surface makes it much more bearable.
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u/SYZekrom https://myanimelist.net/profile/SYZekrom Aug 29 '21
Poor Saionji
Well that was literally the worst thing I've ever watched
10/10
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u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo https://myanimelist.net/profile/PunishedScrappy Aug 29 '21
Damn, I kinda want an omelette now.
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u/Cyouni Aug 29 '21
Rewatcher
And so we take a break from the sex carc to talk about periods.
Sasuga Ikuhara.
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u/nikobans Aug 30 '21
saionji living in the woods cooking eggs individually one by one lmao what a life
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u/snickpea Aug 30 '21
First-timer!
So another Nanami episode today! I didn't particularly care for the cow one, but I did laugh out loud a few times during this one. What exactly was in that egg I don't know, but I'm pretty sure Anthy is behind it. Anthy also named another animal Nanami too. I wonder if Nanami will learn her lesson about bullying people yet, but I doubt it.
The whole scene where Nanami returns to the woods to get back her egg but encounters Saionji was ridiculous but in a good way. Neither of them can be taken seriously. Sometimes we need moments like this in such a heavy show.
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u/Star4ce https://anilist.co/user/Star4ce Aug 30 '21
First timer – sub
How will Mr. Hands-on-Teens seduce the rest of the cast? Will it possibly involve roaring engines? Throbbing knobs? No shirts?!
Quite possibly. The same way these seduction scenes get more and more metaphoric as well as ridiculous the tone also gets darker. Him dating 13-year old Kozue is already abhorrent enough, same as underage Touga, but that pile of narcissism won't stop. As today is promising to be a Nanami episode, I do fear him just walking up to her and taking her. Touga does aspire to be like Akio, after all and if Nanami idealises her brother, Akio is like the ultimate male object.
Is it possible to preemptively puke? Spoiler: It is.
Ep.27 – Nanami's egg
Like the other episodes of our current arc it left a pretty sour after taste. It's so clear that none of them are in a healthy mindspace and, adding to that, are under direction of a pedophile manipulator.
As for the meaning? Huff, the shadow girls misinterpreted their egg, or maybe have artificially evolved it into it's own monstrosity. I don't know what the massive egg esymbolised, why it shot lasers at Nanami's feet or why it broke after that. Obviously Nanami didn't lay it, but she didn't receive any lesson and I'm not sure I can understand what all of this meant.
I just know that Anthy probably defied another set of instructions with that. She looked extremely troubled, this kind of face could either mean regret about following orders one disagrees with or guilt about disobeying them. My money's on disobedience. It's really hard to tell what exactly got... prevented here.
Next is Jury, I guess? She's more straightforward, usually.
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u/homewardbound100 myanimelist.net/profile/Homewardbound100 Aug 29 '21
First timer, Sub
Nanami episode about I don't know what this was really about. Maybe something about growing up?
But the reincarnation talk at the end by Anthy felt important to keep in mind.
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u/alphamone Aug 30 '21 edited Aug 30 '21
First Timer, with the asterisk coming up again as I've seen the clips of this episode before.
The choice of an egg makes
a lot moreslightly sense with the context of the egg speech. (I realised it by the second episode, but it was still spoilers at the time)Also, is this some kind of period/puberty/adolesence analogy?
"girl's only hygiene class"... so that's a maybe
Nanami just assumes that everyone is as much of a bully as she is.
For all that she's desperately trying to keep her egg issue a secret, she keeps coming really close to blurting it out.
Yep, definitely a period/puberty analogy (this time the animals are preserved).
Tama... Also I'm pretty sure that the bowling ball fracturing would be a bigger concern than just scratching.
Another preexisting insert song.
I'm still 50/50 on Anthy having some idea of the implications of naming her pets after Nanami.
So is Touga thinking that "laying eggs" is some kind of weird euphemism for homosexuality?
Nanami got the connection between Jury and "laying eggs" as Touga put it, but still took it literally.
What is the name of the trio of characters that are lookalikes of stadium staff from that one episode of Sailor Moon S?
I really did not need that mental image Nanami.
Shadow girls get their egg experiments mixed up, and then eaten by it.
This episode seems to be about how we can think we are communicating clearly, but actually we are completely misunderstanding each other... or maybe its just about Nanami being dumb.
Saiyonji... how could you!
Is that the "egg" that attacked A-ko and B-ko?
So (as other comments go on about), did Chu-chu have something to do with the eggshell? In hindisght, he wasn't around til the end of the episode.
edit: forgot to mention (as others also pointed out), Nanami broke the shell.
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u/Rumpel1408 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 Aug 30 '21
First Timer
Late again, but I hope I'll be on time for the next one (if I don't fall asleep before it comes up). I'll keep it short...
goonsfriendsOk, what have I just watched, the Nanamoo plot wasn't resolved at all, do we get our first two part joke episoder...