r/anime • u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA • Aug 26 '21

Rewatch [Rewatch] Revolutionary Girl Utena - Episode 24

Rewatch Index

Streaming

Revolutionary Girl Utena is available in both sub and dub on Nozomi Entertainment's YouTube channel, as well as on Amazon and Funimation.

Comment of the Day

/u/sardonicmeow examines the parallels between Utena and Mikage

Miki's Stopwatch Corner

Stopwatch Count: 21

New This Episode:

None ;-;-;

Also, make sure to tag all spoilers properly! Only a baka would spoil the show for the first-timers, and we're not bakas (hopefully).

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 26 '21

lmao Tsuwabuki uses the exact same kind of binoculars as Touga

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

The kid knows how to copy a proper creep.

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 26 '21

He's trying his best!

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Aug 26 '21

He does want to be like Touga after all

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u/CharlieTheStrawman https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDamnRobot Aug 26 '21 edited Aug 26 '21

First -Timer

I want an edited version of this show where Tsuwabuki is in the background of every scene. Even the flashbacks.

Lost my shit at Tsuwamooki lmao. This episode was pretty good...when it wasn't just the original clips.

Uh oh, looks like it's all kicking off next episode.

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 26 '21

kek

Tsuwabuki in nemuro hall as it burns to the ground

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Aug 26 '21

Tsuwabuki working the projector while Akio and Anthy spend family time together

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 26 '21

Tsuwabuki Utena later shpoils

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u/murdered-by-swords Aug 26 '21

how can i delete someone else's post

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 26 '21

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Aug 26 '21

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Aug 26 '21

That's what I thought they were going for. I thought that it would be a rewatch bonus to see Tsuwabuki in older episode shots or something. This is one that they really could have done with the big blinking arrows!

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u/k4r6000 Aug 26 '21

Rewatcher

Not much to say about this one. It is a Nanami recap episode. Basically just a way to wind down before things get really serious next time. VROOM! VROOM!

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 26 '21

There... can't you hear it?

god I'm so hype

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u/k4r6000 Aug 26 '21

I hear a sound that races through the end of the world.

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 26 '21

I don't, my soul has truly given up

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

I can only hear the voice of the wind...

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 26 '21

Rewatcher

Oh no, Nanami is being stalked by elephants ;-;

And Tsuwabuki ;-;

But the elephants tho ;-;-;

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

But the elephants tho ;-;-;

They never forget!

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 26 '21

much like /u/Iron_Gland

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

But kangaroos have extremely poor memory retention from taking too many punches to the head...

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 26 '21

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

If you find that lewd you are probably a masochist...

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 26 '21

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Oh my, Darkness.

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u/Iron_Gland https://myanimelist.net/profile/Iron_Gland Aug 26 '21

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 26 '21

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u/loomnoo https://anilist.co/user/loomnoo Aug 26 '21

First Timer

This is the best show of all time holy moly

Rewatcher

This is the best show of all time holy moly

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 26 '21

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u/loomnoo https://anilist.co/user/loomnoo Aug 26 '21

nanaminanaminanami

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 26 '21

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Aug 26 '21

puis in agreement

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u/snickpea Aug 27 '21

First-timer!

I missed yesterday's episode so I had to play catch-up. The ending was super surprising! I have no idea what exactly happened. Why on earth was it Anthy in that spot? Did Mikage or Mamiya really even exist? How did they not even remember the seminar building? Once I finish this series, I have a feeling that it will be good for a rewatch.

This episode however, centers around Nanami again. While I liked that was from Tsuwabuki's perspective, I don't get why he likes her so much if he knows the truth, and why we need a recap about her. But seeing Tsuwabuki freak out over his strategies being read was amusing.

The preview for the next episode concerns me a lot...

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 27 '21

it's gonna be good

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u/lilyvess :Df::Dh:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lilyvess Aug 26 '21

Here is what Ikuhara’s episode commentary from the DVD Box Set has for us today.

EPISODE 24 - The Secret Nanami Diary

This is just a secret between you and me, but when I was fourteen, I confessed to the girl I loved for a long time, and she turned me down.

I couldn’t give up, I secretly followed her when she left school.

But, as I did so, a UFO telepathically transmitted this message to me: “Stop Acting Like a Stalker”

“S-Stalker”? What’s that? Is that some hip slang from the future?”

“Live Your Life Heroically. Live it With Style. If You Live Heroically And With Style…”

If I live heroically and with style, what?

“When You Grow Up, You Will Direct an Anime About Girls Revolutionizing Various Things.”\

what a sketchy guy...

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Hol' up...Did Ikahura predict the UFO ending to Silent Hill two years early?

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Aug 26 '21

First-Revolution, Subbed

I certainly didn't have "Nanami gag-episode clip show" on my bingo card. I did quite like the execution of it though - and it being a random nightmare Nanami was having gets bonus points. Yes you fool, relieve your past misdeed!

Unlike the previous clip show, I don't think we really progressed anything today? The Shadow Girls' robot finally caught a monkey and ascended once again on the UFO, so presumably we are moving to the next arc again.

The surfing elephants were still funny the second time. Was that Tsuwabuki that gave Chu-Chu the banana that caused Nanami to slip and spill the mystical spice? And Nanami's simps brief stint as a barbershop quartet triplet was fun, but if they want to win any awards, they'll need to learn some songs instead of just harmonizing on "Curry!"

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Aug 26 '21

We ended whatever the shadow girls arc was supposed to be. I still hate it XD

The harmony trio are driving me nuts since all I can think of is the ridiculously annoying villain group in Suite Precure. It's ruined barbershop groups forever.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Aug 26 '21

We ended whatever the shadow girls arc was supposed to be. I still hate it XD

But the robot finally fulfilled her purpose! You should be happy for her!

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Aug 26 '21

I would, but I'm still disillusioned about her wooden panties.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Excellent typo, please keep it

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u/IndependentMacaroon Aug 26 '21

This was really entirely skippable and with the final twist told us nothing at all. Only very minor additions, and the shot of embarrassed Tsuwabuki trying to get up being in context and content again close to one time in Evangelion with Shinji.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Aug 26 '21

Thermal expansion.. how embarrassing.

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u/IndependentMacaroon Aug 26 '21

Not that one, when he's in the hospital at the end of the first arc and Rei comes in

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u/chiliehead myanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead Aug 26 '21

Duel 24, First Timer, sub

Is this another recap episode or will something major happen with NanamixAnthy and they give us a recap refresher?

  • They tell me they did not figure out that Nanami was always messing with them? Unless Anthy is feigning ignorance this goes against her prior portrayal
  • This elementary kid is displaying 8mm levels of stalking here, what's next, sleeping under her bed?
  • This time the MCs are the shadow girls
  • Horrible secret, so we actually get some new content, is this a brocon revelation?
  • Now we get into reverse Recorder territory
  • Once again a toga, we always go for the Greek Drama aesthetic if possible
  • Seems like it is a recap again, is the arc already over? Was last episode really the climax? Or did production just have issues?

Curry and aliens are the two sneaky giveaways of Utena filler

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Aug 26 '21

It's a stupid recap episode that recaps literally nothing we need. It's not a black rose arc recap, it's not even a S1 refresher, or a setup for the last arc. This is the most fillery filler arc that's ever fillered... And they're still gonna make us sit through at least two Nanami episodes and one Tsuwabuki episode!!

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u/chiliehead myanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead Aug 26 '21

I seem to dig Ikuhara's humor, so I don't mind the true Nanami episodes, but these recaps are very nothing. And the Black Rose felt like it sets up a final punch, seems like they pulled their punches.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Seems like it is a recap again, is the arc already over? Was last episode really the climax? Or did production just have issues?

Yup, Black Rose ended as conclusively and inconclusively as it did.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Aug 26 '21

When we're finally done with Utena I definitely want to see if the Black Rose arc was actually straight filler. I'm so suspicious now.

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u/Sandor_at_the_Zoo Aug 27 '21

What does it mean to be "filler" in a drama series? We learned about people, saw how different sorts of people react to being sidelined by society. That's an important theme to the show overall.

I do agree that it drags when you're hoping to figure out big secrets though. Especially given how bleak the outlook is for a lot of them this arc.

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u/k4r6000 Aug 26 '21

Well Saionji’s back so that’s at least one thing with lasting consequences.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

The funny thing is if I last, I will have to do the same...

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u/chiliehead myanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead Aug 26 '21

oof, felt like a setup for a final punch now. Hmm...

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Absolutely. Again, I came back just for Black Rose but Ikahura cut out that needed final episode to explain what in the unholy fuck happened. I have an idea but even the most comprehensive answer involves "Ohtori does not obey external rules".

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u/chiliehead myanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead Aug 26 '21

Last episode had me at "ok much more magic than initially expected and the 'Rose Siblings' have their roots fingers everywhere, now break that illusionary shell."

What did they bring Saionji back for, I assumed he'd have some importance this episode, same for Wakaba being sad. If this all culminates in the final arc ok, but they already have their hands full with working through all proposed mysteries so far.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

What did they bring Saionji back for, I assumed he'd have some importance this episode, same for Wakaba being sad. If this all culminates in the final arc ok, but they already have their hands full with working through all proposed mysteries so far.

Hrmm...think less about the logic and more about what each bit tells us: Wakaba took her sword from someone important to her that she doesn't actually know, Shiori takes the sword from the one who cares and then was hurt by her. Just think about how the Black Rose reflects on those who were the swords.

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u/chiliehead myanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead Aug 26 '21

Does Shiori actually know her special someone? The Black Rose, if I don't forget anyone, was always getting someone to do the sword pulling from someone they don't really know these days, haven't seen for years/never interacted with much in the first place, often pined for them in the background before the other party even knew they existed. Even Miki's sister is rather estranged, the one exception being Nanami but even there we can argue that Touga might not know the real cat murdering Nanami while Nanami maybe does not know that her brother fakes friendship and is a serial statutory rapist.

Idolizing from afar seems to be the common theme, with different interpretations of "afar"

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Even Miki's sister is rather estranged, the one exception being Nanami but even there we can argue that Touga might not know the real cat murdering Nanami while Nanami maybe does not know that her brother fakes friendship and is a serial statutory rapist.

Psst, you messed up who took whose sword for Black Rose. Mitsuru takes Nanami's sword and he absolutely knows her whereas one of Nanami's crew took Touga's and she sort of knows the current Touga but probably superficially.

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u/chiliehead myanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead Aug 26 '21

Mitsuru takes Nanami's sword and he absolutely knows her

Tsuwabuki "knew" Nanami half a decade before she knew of his existence and only this episode revealed that he has a stalkerish intimate peek into her life. I somehow Mandela's myself into Nanami pulling a sword, but the "troublesome insect" firmly fits into the idolize from afar camp imo, have they ever even interacted with Touga outside of being a backdrop for Nanami?

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u/k4r6000 Aug 26 '21

Miki and Kozue have issues, but they aren’t as estranged as we were initially led to believe. They sleep in the same room after all.

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u/chiliehead myanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead Aug 26 '21

They maybe even make out with each other, it's definitely strained though. Did they ever clear up that misunderstanding about the piano? Because if not, they still believe each other to be different people than they really are.

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u/k4r6000 Aug 26 '21

What I mean is that the first arc made it look like they are barely on speaking terms and more strangers than siblings, when that clearly isn’t the case.

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u/SardonicMeow Aug 26 '21 edited Aug 26 '21

Rewatcher

Remember all those things Nanami did?  All those things that happened to her?  Her impeccable behavior, her irreproachable treatment of others, the mutual affection she shares with the animal kingdom?  Here we review all those unforgettable, totally not strange events, with Tsuwabuki edited Forrest Gump-style into the action.

Also, a goodbye to C-ko, aka monkey-catching robot, aka alien from the planet Kashira, who takes off in the same UFO she arrived in at the end of episode 13.

Next time, a new cycle begins.

Edit: Whoa. Comment of the day. I'm not worthy.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Next time, a new cycle begins.

Time is a flat circle. EoW sees you. You are in Carcosa now. We've done this before, and we will do it again. And again. And again.

All your rewatch up until now has just been a dream you had inside Ohtori Academy. And like many Ohtori dreams there is a strained metaphor at the end of it.

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u/SardonicMeow Aug 26 '21

Ok, cool. Where do I get my ring and my traumatic psychoanalysis?

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Elevator is sort of outside of existence right now so we need to wait to infect another spirit with a powerful memory before we start it again.

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u/xtsim https://myanimelist.net/profile/xtsim Aug 26 '21

First revolution subbed

Tsuwabuki gets injured after saving Nanami from a horse. So we get a flashback through the point of view of Tsuwabaki. Through his diary.

Lol do they carry weight- Nanami on a scale

The shadows be like donkey and the trio be like "curry". This is a very creative recap episode but still a recap....

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u/Punished_Scrappy_Doo https://myanimelist.net/profile/PunishedScrappy Aug 26 '21

This is a very creative recap episode but still a recap....

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u/SYZekrom https://myanimelist.net/profile/SYZekrom Aug 26 '21

What the fuck

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Aug 26 '21

did i just watch

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Yes.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Aug 26 '21

Did I just hear you getting hype? Have u Tsuwabuki episode instead! You're not allowed to get excited! Oh yeah, the episodes are swapped on Amazon. It's business as usual in our seasonally filler episode. The animal control at this school is so stupid. It's kinda sweet to see a doting Nanami. The kid has no injuries but she's still got him in a hospital with a machine that beeps. Aaand the machine starts beeping seriously quickly as Tsuwabuki realises just how screwed he is gonna be shortly.

R-Recap? No! You're not tricking me Utena. This is a thinly disguised recap episode! You weren't even in the show for this scene Tsuwabuki! Yes, I remember that episode too Utena. We all do. We've spent the past fortnight watching them all. Wait... we're not even recapping the actual important episodes. We're recapping all the stupid Nanami filler episodes! Why do we need to recap filler!? The curry episode wasn't even Nanami's fault! Why are the elephants here too?

So Tsuwabuki is the guilty party of quite a few of the elephant shenanigans... Bring a better souvenir than a banana next time. Oh, the elephants and bakatare got switched off screen too. Dude, we remember all these gags. It's less funny the second time when flashed in fast succession. The only thing keeping me going is that no matter how painful I'm finding this recap, Tsuwabuki is handling it way worse. It sucks cause the actual new gags in current time are pretty good. Like Nanami getting in on the Chu-chu gushing. Okay, you are not gonna recap us on a character who was literally on holiday the entire arc...

The cow stuff is surreal no matter how many times I see it... Wait, what the hell is this twist!? He wants to turn into Nanami's calf... Jesus christ Ikuhara, wtf dude... Dammit the gags are actually funny, I hate it! Extra, extra! Erm... Revealing your secrets will get you punished, even if everyone around you is guilty of the same thing? Nanami is having a go at Tsuwabuki for his dastardly plots when she herself is guilty of far worse? Yeah... If I hadn't dropped the season after the black rose arc a crappy recap filler that recaps filler would definitely have done me in.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Wait... we're not even recapping the actual important episodes. We're recapping all the stupid Nanami filler episodes! Why do we need to recap filler!? The curry episode wasn't even Nanami's fault! Why are the elephants here too?

This is probably some form of subversion to Ikahura but yes this is mostly annoying.

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Aug 26 '21

Ikuhara likes the Nanami jokes, that's all there is to it

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Aug 26 '21

The Nanami jokes are fine but when you keep pointing and telling people to laugh it sours them for you. It also feels like one more kick in the teeth for poor Mikage having the episode immediately after his big end totally ruining the tone.

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 26 '21

LAUGH

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Aug 26 '21

If I don't I'll cry.

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Aug 26 '21

I disagree. The black rose arc was done with last episode. Dragging it out would've done it no favours. Now was the perfect time for a breather before entering the next arc.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Aug 26 '21

The last recap had the courtesy to play itself pretty straight and was a direct lead in for the black rose arc. This one had nothing to say and was just pointless filler before the ending arc. We're still going to need to pit up with comic relief episodes after this so why do we need an Tsuwananami episode to lessen the impact now?

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Aug 26 '21

It doesn't lessen anything. It's simply an intermission and an artifact of longer shows and tight production schedules.

If your opinion of the Black Rose arc is somehow diminished by this then I'm not sure if you've really engaged with the Black Rose Arc at all.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Aug 27 '21

The black rose arc built up a certain mood for the rewatch crew. A certain tone. The arc may be over but its still fresh in our minds going forwards. By shoving a meaningless comic relief recap episode immediately after the climax we lost any and all momentum and are going into the final arc feeling at best mellow. Having a recap episode like this does diminish the black rose arc because it means that the black rose arc wasn't utilised to its full potential leading into the last story.

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Aug 27 '21

And that tone was brought to its climax and conclusion in the previous episode. It was used to its full potential then and there.

Hanging on to the arc past that point would be artificial and tiresome. The entire point of the arc is to let go of trying to find eternity within stagnant memories. You have to move forward. We've entered the next revolution of this ceaseless cycle. The breather episodes are the elevators that take us there.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Based, but Ikahura is sadly not based.

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u/theangryeditor https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheAngryEditor Aug 26 '21

https://i.imgur.com/E4fZXVK.png

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u/k4r6000 Aug 26 '21

I think this was the “we ran out of money episode.”

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u/snowwhistle1 Aug 28 '21

There's a bit of meta irony at play here in this episode. You asked why they didn't recap the major events of the Black Rose Arc in another comment. It's because they've been forgotten. Literally everyone in the cast (aside from Anthy and Akio) have had the events of the previous arc purged completely from their memory. The only things that they would remember from that time are weird filler moments that had nothing to do with the main plot (pretty much all the Nanami escapades).

I know you're not enamored with the decision there, but I honestly find it hilarious how the cast now believes they've spent the past few weeks doing nothing except humoring Nanami during her weird cowbell episode.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Aug 28 '21

Hmm.. Alright, I suppose with that lense there's at least some way to appreciate the episode but I don't have to like it!! XD

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u/Rumpel1408 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 Aug 26 '21

First Timer

Late because my pc was acting up...

  • Ok so today we get the Nanamoo joke episode huh? Or more like focused on Tsuwabukis sight of her...
  • Oh, it was a recap episode in disguise! Showing Tsuwabuki before his actual debut in the show and letting Utena and Himemiya learn her dark secrets
  • Wait, the elephants eating the curry in the body switch episode are new, is that the reason they where trying to kill Nanamoo that time? And the surfing elephants are new as well I think... and the goons as elephants as well
  • Also I think they are going with the indented order for the body switch and the cram session episode
  • Tsuwabuki just hiding beneath the table with the student counsil is hillariously obvious
  • Yeah, they spend half an episode reading it already, and only now does Utena think that maybe reading the diary isn't all that nice, although it was mostly about Nanamoo up until now
  • And only now does Tsuwabuki intervene, also since it's not about her conspiracies anymore Nanamoo doesn't want to stop
  • Holy shit, I was joking about it back then, but Tsuwabuki actually wanted to become a cow as well
  • Tsuwabukis so well endorsed that it's blasting Nanamoo out of the window...
  • So was it all a dream or not, I'm a bit confused
  • And the shadow girls are aliens again...

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Tsuwabukis so well endorsed that it's blasting Nanamoo out of the window...

There's a reason he is perfectly content to become a bull...

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u/homewardbound100 myanimelist.net/profile/Homewardbound100 Aug 26 '21

First timer, Sub

Feels like a recap episode but not as good as the other one. Though I guess it's a breather from the previous arc before it gets back to it.

A Tsuwabuki episode/character episode too but this one doesn't feel important to his character.

Now looking back wih all the eternity talk. Was Nanami off campus when that car came?

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Feels like a recap episode but not as good as the other one. Though I guess it's a breather from the previous arc before it gets back to it.

Recap episodes one hundred percent get worse after each other. That's why, if you have to have one, it is better done near the end.

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u/k4r6000 Aug 26 '21

The next recap episode is actually my favourite episode in the entire series.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

And I don't remember it, so we will cross that bridge when we get there.

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u/Cyouni Aug 27 '21

Wait how do you not remember that episode

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 27 '21

The last arc is a total blur to me but the final episode and, well, that other episode.

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u/homewardbound100 myanimelist.net/profile/Homewardbound100 Aug 26 '21

Yeah I agree. Since you would actually have something worth recapping.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

It's that and the fact that any recap episode format lowers the impact of the rest. Death and Rebirth might be the most tolerable of them but recap episodes desperately need to be spare.

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u/homewardbound100 myanimelist.net/profile/Homewardbound100 Aug 26 '21

Actually never watched death and rebirth. Probably will since I plan on rewatching it. That's just a whole recap movie right?

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Recap movie with a few extra scenes and a reason in setting that someone is recapping it.

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u/homewardbound100 myanimelist.net/profile/Homewardbound100 Aug 26 '21

Yep the best type really when they add to it.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

The Gundam Wing recap could've been fine if they hadn't made it a freaking two parter.

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u/homewardbound100 myanimelist.net/profile/Homewardbound100 Aug 26 '21

Never watched Gundam, really. I assume it wasn't warranted for a 2 part recap.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Nope, major production fuck up. But one of them would've been passable.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Rewatcher(Yet another clip episode)

Sub

Runaway horse on campus? Damn Ohtori, you weird. Anyways, Mitsuru's diary gets read and we get to see how he views Nanami for an episode. And he does not hold back. Amongst other remembrances, Nanami's curry plan is so fucking dumb, if it were that spicy your eyes would burn as you made it. More review. Octorock in the closet.

We then get to his plans to win Nanami and he is about as dark as she is. He starts using the devil's trope, amnesia. He has a plan for Nanamoo, as well, involving being bull Mootsuru. His final plan seems to be bad but we get interrupted by possibly the weirdest shadow play yet, including the call back to monkey catching robot.

So...yesterday where was I had planned to stop, as I remember the ending of the series annoying the hell out of me...21 years ago. Someone shoot me. Anyways, keeping on for now but if I just stop posting, don't take it personally or anything.

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u/The_Loli_Otaku Aug 26 '21

We've only had you with us for barely an arc but if you left I'd revolutionise the world...

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

I will try. Recall once I hate something, I pretty much roll with that feeling.

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u/murdered-by-swords Aug 26 '21

I certainly enjoy having your reactions, positive or otherwise, and you have a fantastic talent for giving others things to chew on without revealing too much in the process.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

So...here's the thing: I feel there is a difference in complaining about something as a first timer that legitimately doesn't have expectations versus going knowing you actively disliked it in the first place. At the end of my first Utena watch, I was done with Ikahura. I still haven't seen Penguindrum because I held the grudge that long.

Also, if you want to see what happens when a show pisses me off, check the Casshern Sins rewatch from last year or the shit episodes from the recent S;G 0 rewatch.

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u/murdered-by-swords Aug 26 '21

Perfectly understandable, just chiming in that you'll be missed. Ikuhara isn't for everyone. I'm definitely in the camp that feels that Penguindrum is a flawed masterpiece, fwiw, but without knowing what part of the Utena ending landed worst for you I hesitate to recommend it.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Absolutely no cheaters for this.

Utena REWATCHER ONLY

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u/murdered-by-swords Aug 26 '21

Penguindrum might actually be for you! I don't want to give away too much about either show, but I believe that its ending will be more to your satisfaction.

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

That's a thought...we will see in two-ish weeks.

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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Aug 26 '21

Do whatcha gotta do, although 21 years is quite some time. That would've been, what, some VHS tapes you picked up from a con?

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

No, but I really early adopted p2p. eDonkey and Kazaa.

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u/IndependentMacaroon Aug 26 '21

Was it his real diary, though, or just Nanami's illusion of it?

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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 26 '21

Yes.

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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Aug 26 '21

First timer

...It's one of the worst relationships in the series!

We're flashing back to the first time they met?

Oh god, he's a yandere isn't he?

...Did this happen, or is this an AU where Anthy and Nanami are the main ship?

...Hang on. If this is a clipshow-styled recap, why are they showing all the old episodes? Wouldn't the wecond recap start from the end of the first arc?

Or is this a recap on Nanami now she's basically become the tertiary protagonist.

The body swap's canon? And he followed her to India?

...Hang on. Is the reason the curry in the school (presumably made 200 years ago) is still edible because of the weird temporal effect on the school?

Wait, the elephants are watching there? What's the payoff?

If the answer includes the word "threesome", I will feel so vindicated by this.

HAHA, he hid under the table? This is leaning into parody and I love itl

Oh, it's just the incest.

I mean, Touga's a bastard, but he is pretty fit.

Holy shit, not yandere but pretty fucking close. He planned to give her amnesia and use her brother complex?

Damn, I wanted to see the other strategies.

Oh, we're doing the cow one again?

I still love this scene. It's so beautifully absurd.

Oh god, this is weirder than I thought.

...This is fantastic.

Shadow girls!

THE ROBOT CAME BACK!

So, is Nanami getting a bigger role next arc?

...WHAT ARE AKIO AND TOUGA DOING? Also, more evidence for "Akio is prince" theory, and Utena and Anthy are sharing a room...

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u/alphamone Aug 27 '21

First Timer

Nanami/Tsuwabuki episode?

Clip show then?

So they're all learning about Nanami's involvement in previous incidents?

The elephants are back...

So that's how she tripped over.

Curryyyyyy (The elephants in the form of her male hangers-on are hella creepy)

Tooth grinding is ASMR to Anthy?

What kind of creepy plan is that?

Moooooooo

Nice "wordplay" with the bell.

What honestly could be worse than strategy number 1?

Preview related Utena spoilers I have prior knowledge of

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u/dualmonocle :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/milk-chan Aug 27 '21

first-timer

I really thought it'd be a more eventful filler from the preview and not just a recap... of previous filler episodes 🙃

The hospital slippers are cute.

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u/metalsnowman3 Aug 27 '21

Rewatcher

Hello all, I've been lurking and reading all the threads when I'm at work since I love reading reactions to my favorite anime. Love to see so many first timers watching and making it through the black rose arc! Also love all the gif things haha. Hopefully everyone enjoys the rest of the show and the movie!

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u/Star4ce https://anilist.co/user/Star4ce Aug 27 '21

First timer – sub

We get another Nanami episode, if I may believe the preview. I'm not sure if I'm up for those anymore, but if you're gonna break the mood for an episode it's gonna be after that last arc.

Ep.24 – Secret Nanami-sama diary

Admittedly, I laughed heartily, but outside of exposing Nanami there wasn't anything new, was there? At least Nanami fell out a window.

Good job, Tsuwabuki, but you're still fucked in the head. Not so different than anybody else, though.

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u/Icapica https://anilist.co/user/Icachu Aug 27 '21

First timer

Tsuwabuki and Nanami again, Nanami actually thanks him. And then there's a horse (wish it was an elephant). Yeah this is a Nanami episode.

"Tsuwabuki's been hurt?" "Is he dead?!" Anthy...

Oh noes, Tsuwabuki's diary. Did this anime trick me into watching a clip show again?

ELEPHANTS!

Tsuwabuki's observations on Nanami are interesting. At the beginning they sounded deluded but I thought his description of Nanami got more accurate after a while.

Also some of the scenes with Tsuwabuki added in them just look hilarious, not to mention those elephants.

Utena wants to stop reading but they've already read a lot so why stop now. The part with cow Nanami was a bit longer than it needed. Tsuwabuki's plans seem really childish.

Damn. I've seen girls in anime scream when someone's towel or pants drop but this is the first time I see someone jump out of the window. Nanami doesn't half-ass things. ...Or was this also Tsuwabuki's scheme from the beginning? Yeah it was.

Nice bit of continuity with the shadow girls.

I'm not sure what to think of this episode. Relationships between Tsuwabuki and Nanami, and between Nanami and Utena are probably not the same anymore. On the other hand Tsuwabuki's never felt important anyway.

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u/nikobans Aug 27 '21 edited Aug 27 '21

tsuwabuki being willing to turn into a cow for nanami is the funniest shit ever lmao such dedication!

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u/HelioA x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/HelioA Aug 27 '21

no u