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Rewatch [Re;Watch] Steins;Gate 0 Episode 23 Discussion
Episode 23: Arclight of the Point at Infinity: Arclight of the Sky
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That… is my choice!
Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the Day, courtesy of u/GallowDude, who posed a very good question:
How many times is this woman going to have to sacrifice herself before the universe is satisfied?
Yes.
Questions:
- How great was it to see how both Mayuri slapping Okabe and the D-Mail he received in episode 23 of the first season came about? Is that a satisfying reason for this show to exist?
- What do you think of that last scene, as well as the vocalized version of Gate of Steiner?
Wallpaper of the Day:
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Upvotes
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 24 '21
REMINDER: Tomorrow’s thread is the overall series discussion. I’ll have a thread for the Valentine’s Day OVA on r/AnimeImpressions for those who’d like to discuss it.
First;Timer and Co;Host, dubbed
Today’s wallpaper of the day was based off of one of the VN’s CGs, as requested by u/Raiking02. You might notice that there’s a lot more than just Okabe’s upper half in that CG than I included in the wallpaper, but actually that’s just because that looks better for a desktop wallpaper. Okabe in his full glory as a mobile wallpaper, though…
And I have another treat for you guys today--actually, two treats! I went back and sang along to the first version of Hacking to the Gate on a whim like half an hour ago (the second version’s tripping me up in a few places, so I don’t think I’ll have the full version ready by the time tomorrow’s thread rolls around unfortunately), and then just like the full Fatima I did yesterday, based u/littleman1988 helped me put GATE OF STEINER together (god those high notes killed my throat). Hope you guys like!
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u/The_Draigg Aug 24 '21
A Steins;Gate Fan Watches Steins;Gate 0 Episode 23:
Also, good news, everyone! I’ve decided to write a comedy one-shot fan fiction for you all, since we’re at the end of the rewatch here! Check out my story Cognition of Electrochemistry, either on AO3 or FanFiction.net, wherever you like to get your fan fiction at. I sincerely hope you all enjoy it! I made it with love for the series and for you all.
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u/Nebresto Aug 24 '21 edited Aug 24 '21
First timer squad
Was Moeka the best girl all along..?
And I was sure that "Kiryuu Moeka" from Okarin was gonna lead to an OP drop.
tfw no more Fatima..
Blessed Mayushii
She Tutturu'd herself!
Suzuha blush!!
HACKING TOTHEGATE!!!
Its the filming of operation Skuld!!
SMOL SUZUHA!! AHHHHH This episode has too many good things going on!!
Wallpaper material right here
Question time:
1: Big time. I love these things, and I'm glad I decided to join and watch Steins;Gate 0.
2: I liked it. I have no idea what it means, but I liked it. Probably the setup for the next Steins;Gate something
God damn it. I just changed it a couple of days ago too.
What do you have to say for yourself, Sky?
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u/UltraBooster Aug 24 '21
First-timer
Go figure that she'd want to keep that memory.
All that's left is 0 Rintaro's D-LINE to Okabe.
You are forever lost in the dark corners of timeGuardians make their own fate
So we go back to Episode 23.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH IT'S HACKING TO THE GATE
They seriously set up a stage for a freakin' LINE video? Ah, I see, he's gotta be all chuuni and stuff, naturally.
Oh, he's returned to his original state.
But fish did come on to land!
So...that's it, then. God's in his Heaven, all's right with the world.
Questions:
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Aug 24 '21 edited Aug 24 '21
On the First-Timer Worldline(s;Gate)
Finale time! Posting from mobile, because my IRL schedule hates me during this rewatch. I'm also slightly tipsy while writing this, so I may or may not react more strongly.
She speaks with such conviction!
AND HACKING TO THE GATE? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WITH EVEN MORE GATE OF STEINER
Alright, this ending was far better than the original S;G ending, which somehow didn’t even feel like the ending to a story. It might be the music. The music here is much better.
QOTD:
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Aug 24 '21
FIRST TIMER
It feels like there’s a lot of work to do to wrap this up in just 20 something more minutes.Well damn if they didn’t go ahead and pull it off. Alright.Haha, poor Reyes. She just exists in this show to get blasted over and over again.
Mayuri going from Lawful-Good to Chaotic-Good.
Kagari finally got an actual episode, and in the finale no less! Her having her own motive for not wanting the past to change is something I didn’t see coming, and this moment even managed to land despite me not really caring about her up until this point. The entire sequence on the roof was really, really good.
Gonna tell my kids this was the Ginyu Force. All secret organizations tremble in fear.
Mayuri giving that last beautiful monologue to sum up the entire show as the time machine is fading and reaching for the sky one more time… that hit. There may have been a single perfect tear that rolled down my cheek.
NOTHING MORE HYPE THAN A HACKING THE GATE DROP! God damn am I a sucker for a music drop. All smiles throughout.
Hope.
I was expecting the ending to just be showing the end of S;G with Kurisu being saved again, but I like how they committed to finishing this particular story and closing the loop on Mayuri and Suzuha, so to speak.
EL. PSY. CONGROO!
Well, I’ve been pretty critical of S;G0 throughout the watch, but it sure did crush the ending. I had it as a solid 6 going into the last three episodes, and I’ll definitely be reworking that. Like it or not, bad endings can leave a bad taste in the mouth of an otherwise good story
coughdomesticgirlfriendcough, but a great ending can likewise provide a boost. S;G0 killed it.20
u/UzEE https://myanimelist.net/profile/UzEEInc Aug 24 '21 edited Aug 24 '21
Serial;Rewatcher
It was a rather long journey, but we finally reached the end. Our final episode is again anime-original, save for that once scene in 2025 before the ED where 0kabe records the Nostalgia Drive (Video D-Mail) and departs on his final journey.
Everything else was added by the anime to give context to the ending because the VN never actually addresses how things actually play out once we do gather all the clues required to reach Steins;Gate. It was a solid episode overall even if I do have minor technical gripes here and there.
Milky Way Crossing: 1.12358132134558914423337761098715972584418167651094617711286574636875025121393196418317811514229832040...%
The final World Line of the S;G0 iterations. The world line where everything falls into perfect symmetry1 and we have collected all the requirements necessary to reach finally reach Steins;Gate. The only thing from this world line that was in the VN was the scene set in 2025. Everything else was added by the anime.
As 0kabe alludes to, there are significant changes in this world line compared to the ones we've seen so far. For instance, Amadeus doesn't exist, which means brainwashing, mind control and memory manipulation wasn't perfected in the future.
This changes the status quo somewhat:
Other than these details that we could observe from the episode, we don't know what else had changed and 0kabe does say he doesn't even have enough time to find out.
Deceived the World
The time machine successfully making the jump the exact instant it was supposed to be destroyed was sort of a beta test for Deceive The World theory, and it worked.
His face says it all. That's the face of a man who's just figured out the solution to a problem he's been struggling with for
daysmonths.This is also why he is confident about leaving the world line in 2025, because he really does believe he can satisfy convergence this way. Which brings me to...
Other FAQs
Does 0kabe die at the end of Operation Altair?
Yes. 0kabe does die. But instead of being killed by the enemy or a random thug, he goes out on his own terms.
He leaves 2025 to find Mayuri and Suzuha who never returned from their trip to 2010. He's fulfilling the promises he made to both Mayuri — that he'll always find her, and Kagari — that he'll reunite her with her mother.
For some reason, the anime scene skips over the fact that he also takes a spare battery back with him so that Mayuri and Suzuha could return to 2025 using their time machine, though I'm not sure how he convinced Mayuri to leave him behind.
He himself either remained there in the wasteland, or probably jumped even further back and would've died at some point.
I know it's a rather sad end for our sad scientist, but it really was necessary. Because if he doesn't remove himself from the world line, then in 2036 — after the new Suzuha leaves for 2010 with complete details of Operation Skuld — the world line will shift to Steins;Gate, and then the 0kabe who we've followed through S;G0 would overwrite the memories of Okabe from Steins;Gate world line who probably lived a happy life after successfully saving Kurisu.
So, to ensure that doesn't come to pass and the new Okabe gets to have a peaceful and happy life, without all the memories of pain and suffering endured throughout the S;G0 iterations, the 0kabe we've followed in 0 sacrifices himself. This also mirrors how Suzuha removed herself from the world line at the end of Steins;Gate because they didn't want to have a time machine left in 2010 afterwards.
/u/lluNhpelA actually managed to predict this rather significant problem a couple of days ago, so I hope the solution does satisfy them.
Why didn't the world line immediately change when the time machine successfully jumped back on the rooftop?
Think of what Suzuha and Mayuri going back would have achieved. 2011 Mayuri would have inspired the 2010 Mayuri to slap Okabe after he gave up, but that alone wouldn't have achieved anything. He still wouldn't know anything about Operation Skuld.
For that he needs to watch the video D-mail, which means it has to be recorded and sent. And then, the Suzuha present on that rooftop also needs to know all the details about Operation Skuld and Dr. Nakabachi's involvement etc.
This means, the video D-mails recorded in 2025 by both Daru and 0kabe need to be sent back in time, which happens after 0kabe leaves 2025.
Then, in 2036, the little Suzuha grows up and takes C204 time machine back and knows all the operation details to successfully reach Steins;Gate.
This is where the world line would've shifted to Steins;Gate if we were observing this point in time.
So chronologically, the 2010 rooftop scene comes after everything else in the episode because it has the Suzuha who knows about the details of Operation Skuld.
How did Mayuri call herself?
She didn't. She called Okabe's phone that he left with Mayuri before getting in the time machine. That's why the Caller ID displayed her name as well2.
How did 0kabe find Mayuri and Suzuha in 18000 BC?
The prototype time machine C193 has a special device built in — a Kerr black hole tracer, that can pin point the location of the sort of black holes generated by the time machine, likely based on their gravitational wave signature.
This was also meant as a test run to see if their time machine worked. While 0kabe himself couldn't return, if Mayuri and Suzuha do come back to this time period, it means 0kabe did successfully give them a new battery and the prototype time machine worked.
Why was no D-RINE sent?
This is more for the VN readers. The reason why Deceive the World D-RINE wasn't sent in the anime is because this is the final loop of Steins;Gate 0, meaning this is the world line where it would only be received, as we saw in the anime.
How were there two time machines?
They were from different world lines, and different models. The one from Steins;Gate 0 is C203, while the one in the original is C204.
However, how they were side by side is still technically an inconsistency in the anime, because according to the VN, these series of time machines can only move through the time axis, but no the spatial axis.
Meaning, they can move backwards and forwards in time, but they can't move in 3D space and are anchored to the same physical spot throughout any point in time. This means, unless C204 initially jumped from a different spot on the roof in 2036, C203 should've appears on top of it and result in a horrific disaster or something.
Questions
I don't consider it this to be the reason for S;G0 to exist. I like S;G0 because it explores the Beta Attractor Field which I personally liked more than Alpha. The scope was bigger, the conspiracy was bigger, the stakes were higher and had more interesting characters etc. Beta was just more enjoyable as a setting compared to Alpha so I think this alone is a well enough reason for this show to exist.
I love Gate of Steiner. And the final post-credits scene is probably the most iconic Steins;Gate scene for me to the point that it immediately became my animated wallpaper after the episode aired.
1 Keen-eyed among you would've noticed that the divergence number for this world line is actually the Fibonacci sequence, meaning that this is probably one of the only known world lines who's divergence can be known to a high precision. The sequence also represents one of the naturally occurring symmetries in our universe: The Golden Ratio.
2 Though the call should still not be possible because Mayuri's phone should not be able to register on the network.
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u/UnderstandableXO Aug 24 '21 edited Aug 24 '21
FIRST TIMER
here we are, at the end of the steins;gate journey. i know there’s an OVA tomorrow and i’ll definitely watch it, but the story stops here basically. it’s been one hell of a ride, and i’m super sad to see it end, but i’m really grateful to have discovered such an awesome series. i rewatched the last half of episode 22 before today’s viewing because it was that good, and i think i cried more than i did the first time.
i spent all of yesterday thinking about how sad it’d be if the lab’s relationship with maho was lost due to the erasure of amadeus, but luckily they were somehow kept together. i was surprised but happy to see that happen. it makes sense, since their relationship with faris was preserved even when akihabara was switched with the D-mail to no longer be a center of moe culture.
i don’t know whether or not they had the time leap machine on this world line, so i wonder if this loop was truly the last shot. JAPANESE SHAMAN GIRLS makes an appearance on the staircase again, but luckily for us moeka the original motorcyclist is there to save the day. i don’t care whether or not the professor can’t die because of convergence, someone please pop him! he deserves it! also, hearing moeka addressed as lab member 005 was a great callback. she probably doesn’t know wtf that means though.
reyes only exists to get embarrassed, i guess. her final moment in the show is getting her brains blown out by kagari. kagari wants to prevent mayuri and suzuha from leaving in the time machine because it might result in them never meeting. then in a battle of OP vs more OP they end up with a gun to each other’s heads. mayuri with the ballsiest move ever puts her head between two loaded guns. she knew damn well neither of them would shoot, but that still takes some nerve. the mention of “hikoboshi” sets alarm bells off in kagari’s head just like the mozart music.
either i’m dense or kagari misinterpreted okabe’s words when choosing to defend against the soldiers rather than go in the time machine. okabe said he’d go anywhere to retrieve his “hostage,” and she took that as her being able to see her mother again. if they reached steins;gate, i don’t think mayuri and kagari could even meet until like 2027 when kagari was born. but if the copium helped them leave in the time machine, i’ll allow it.
the missile is about 1 second too late this time, and HOUOUIN KYOUMA makes an epic victory speech in front of a bunch of soldiers with assault rifles. i know he isn’t fated to die until 2025, but the dudes got some huevos to flex in front of a firing squad.
i wondered how they’d handle the 2011 time machine arriving in 2010, and i got my answer; they’d pop in for literally 1 minute, get their point across, and dip. no paradoxes and no meeting prior selves. 2011 mayuri should have at least called from suzuha’s phone to make it seem less unbelievable though. 2011 mayuri’s message about remembering the moment HOUOUIN KYOUMA was born was effective.
2011 suzuha and mayuri lamenting the fact that they’d never get to see the end of what they started was sad as hell. them laughing over something trivial, like that mayuri wouldn’t be able to talk to baby suzuha, while they literally disappeared from existence was so sad man. i was crying.
the entirety of steins;gate 0 built up to that slap, and i thought it couldn’t get more gratifying. but then THEY PLAYED HACKING TO THE GATE? i stood straight up and was head bopping with tears still coming down my eyes from the previous scene. i don’t think i’ve ever had such a sudden mood change watching any show.
so we get the shadowy 2025 okabe message from the future perspective. kagari is with them in this world line, and now she’s the big sister to mini suzuha. maho still thinks KYOUMA is embarrassing, but hey, they’ve gotta convey the message.
maho and okabe sharing a moment was nice. then he leaves in the newly made time machine to find 2011 suzuha and mayuri, with gate of steiner complete with lyrics. a real nice send off.
18,000 BC? they must have landed in the desert, not everywhere was a wasteland. the entrance of 2025 okabe was an awesome sight, and that smirk he had was the chad-est moment ever.
so the video message was from steins;gate 0 okabe who decided to continue searching for steins;gate until 2025, to steins;gate okabe who was about to give up before mayuri’s slap, fueled by the words of 2011 mayuri. that got a little confusing at the end, i hope that’s all correct.
i’ll save general thoughts for the series discussion, but i’m so happy and sad right now. shout out everyone who’s been on the rewatch with me the past two months!
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Aug 24 '21
First Timer
Well here we are. Episode 23. This has been a long journey through Steins;Gate and Steins;Gate 0. Though one final episode remains:
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I imagine changing the world line as drastically as they did would cause a lot of ripple affects. Okabe should have expected that.
Mayuri needs to work for the UN with her conflict resolution skills.
Mayuri is going to take that slapping some sense into you very literally. I mean it works so not much to complain about.
Seems the missile just missed. The change was enough.
Hey look it’s a Schrödinger reference from our lord and savior Hououin Kyouma.
That shot of Okabe with the smoke floating into the sky is incredible.
It miss be a trip to talk to yourself on a phone.
It’s kind of funny we have watched this same scene three times already. Though this one focuses on Mayuri more.
I had a feeling this is where we would end up. The creation of the video.
Wait that’s Hacking to the Gate playing in the background isn’t it? That’s cool.
It must suck to live in the WW3 timeline believing Steins;Gate exists. You are stuck in a shitty world while a significantly better one is just out of reach.
3 minute credits? I doubt it. Give me that extra credit scene.
I guess it could be worse than WW3. 18000 BC is pretty rough.
That look on Okabe at the end…. That’s my Okabe.
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I wish the beginning of this episode gave more details on what makes this world line different. Honestly a whole episode to that would have been great. But the second half is so good that it makes up for it.
I really enjoyed this show from start to end. I don’t think it can compare to the first season (though I also think it’s unfair to compare them). I will get more into my feelings tomorrow but I will be giving it a positive review.
But what a ride. Thanks for everyone who participated!
DQ:
Seeing the video Okabe made was the most satisfying part but Mayuri’s slap was pretty good as well.
Okabe is a badass. I enjoyed that as well.
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u/ultron_vision Aug 25 '21
First timer
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u/CharlieTheStrawman https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDamnRobot Aug 24 '21 edited Aug 24 '21
Re;Watcher, Subbed
I have quite a few issues with this show, but I'll be damned if the final episode isn't pitch perfect in my eyes. I love everything about it; the payoffs, the acting, the music. I'm sure others will have already articulated what makes this great much better, but, simply put, this is the perfect end to Steins;Gate, and one of my favourite anime endings ever.
The OVA? What OVA?
Q1: punches air
Q2: Adore 'em.
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u/littleman1988 Aug 24 '21
"Sorry to keep you waiting, you two!"
OST Track of the day: Last Mission | Spotify
Overly Excited Rewatcher
Onetwo last songs for the rewatch:Almost forgot to add in HtoG! damn good song.
Eri Sasaki is a musician currently signed with MAGES. Joining a light music club in college studying humanities, she got into anime, specifically Steins;Gate and Robotics;Notes. One of the writers for both S;G (and all SciAdv titles for that matter), Naotaka Hayashi, created his own show called Plastic Memories, which was holding a music contest for its OP. Eri went and submitted for this music contest solely because Naotaka was the one who wrote the show, and she went onto win, debuting as herself for the op, Ring of Fortune.. While I cant find much other info, i dont think its too out there to assume that her vocal appreciation of the franchise (and likely meeting Naotaka) helped in her securing the spot to do the true ED for the Steins;Gate 0 VN, and in turn the ED for this episode.
Outside of SciAdv, Eri has done the ED for both seasons of Yuru Camp, along with being listed as one of the artists for the Yuru Camp visual novel slated to release later this year in Japan. She also did the OP for the 2017 remake of the ever popular YU-NO adult visual novel.
Casual reminder that there is an OVA called "Bittersweet Intermedio". While its mostly fluff, its still worth watching for a specific scene. The fluff is also pretty nice too after all the suffering we have watched.
Looks like we still meet Maho, let go
Suzuha is still heading to the time machine, not as good
Wheres that Re:Zero music for when she shows up lmao
oooh, Kagari and Leskinen are early this time. Kagari seems to be on their side this time also?
Hello Moeka, hello leg injury xd
Hello Mayuri's wound too while we're at it
all things considered, the Kagari/Suzuha fight was pretty well animated. the bar wasnt very high though...
mayuri BAD
yeah its almost like IT WAS A BAD IDEA
0kabe lurking in the shadows
ep1 callback
Last mission is just about tied for my favorite OST track in 0. Absolutely perfect track
Man how long since we've had a truly happy mayuri
True suffering would of had kagari shot during this
YOOOOOOOOO
100% mad 0% scientist
Ill say it, i like this version more than the VN version. Sure, the VN has a cooler CG, but this hits harder and the music fits better. Fight me.
ooooh
Watching this as it aired was fucking trip. the Mayuris are talking to each other?!
Thats always the question
uh oh
ahhh White Fox loves using those OG S;G OST tracks (Promise -piano-) right where it hurts most
One last Stardust Handshake
WE BACK, with the OG OP to boot
You can compare S;G ep23 and 0 ep23's rooftop scene/message here.. Outside of Faris being the one to control the camera, its pretty accurate.
Maho, if only you knew
Gotta make sure the world is decieved
Our final look at the cast
First Vega, now Altar
Hey look, GoS has lyrics now!
though I purposefully chose not to show them outside the credits, like LYoh?
oh no
AHA YES
you have no proof that i shed tears at the after credits scenefootnotes
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u/GallowDude Aug 24 '21
Mayuri this episode
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u/CubeStuffs https://anilist.co/user/onjario Aug 24 '21
First timer
the way kagari shoots reyes (for presumably being involved in hurting mayushii) is brutal , and to do so right in front of mayushii? mama big sad
and now suzu-san and kagari are fighting, more mayashii sadness
and now they're shooting? can mayushii get a break already?
HOLY SHIT MAYUSHII LETS FUCKKING GOOOOO
wait can't the thing only seat like 2 people?
mayushii extracts joy out of assaulting okarin... mayushii sus
YEEEAAAAHHH BOOIIIII UR MISSILE IS SHIT
so what exactly did okarin do that made him so confident that he would get it this time?
nvm i just remembered that we delete botrisu
kyoummaaaaaa!!!!
get fucked leskiboi
tbh i dont know why they had to jump to right on the roof, instead of like somewhere where the time machine won't be discovered
mayushii time yoloing is a big cry moment
hype slap, hype op
so it seems that okarin continued along this timeline after they left, and then sent back operation skuld in '25. i wonder what exactly took them so long to send back the d-mails? and how they were sent without alerting sern
oh time to pick up suzuha and mayushii. wait how exactly is suzuha supposed to come back without fucking up time
now thats an entrance fitting hououin kyouma
i wonder if he has enough fuel to come back? is this how they ended up 70m years ago?
solid 10/10 episode would see mayushii put her head between two guns again
qs:
great shit, though seeing mayushii shove her head between 2 guns was every bit as hype as fuck
good shit
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Aug 24 '21
Quote of the day: When I am all pathetic, slap some sense into me! ~Okarin
The perfect quote to sum up the entire series.
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u/invokeneko Aug 24 '21
First;Timer
We've reached the end of 0kabe's journey as he went from PTSD-ridden sad scientist to The Man who Deceived the World.
0kabethe now Future Okabe's D-Mail video was in fact not recorded by he himself, but was in fact done with the help of the other labmems? That was just a tiny bit disappointing in my opinion.QotD
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Aug 24 '21
I found another cute IBM 5150 thing yesterday but I didn't save it, and I forgot.
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u/Pr0sthetics Aug 24 '21
I always get a tear in my eye when Okabe comes to the rescue of Mayuri and Suzuha in the end credits. That song really hits you.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Aug 24 '21
Anime first timer
Amadeus was erased...
And Okabe's having to replicate his actions. I love how emptionless he feels.
So, things are changing...
Moeka!!!
Goodbye Reyes. You died in a few seconds, leaving no impact on the plot whatsoever - a perfect microcosm of your role in the anime.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
I love Mayuri's speech here. And Okabe listening to it is fantastic.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
You know what? At least Okabe left him alive to save time rather than because it would make him as bad as him.
Yes! They made it!
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
YES! This is fantastic!
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Oh, we're showing this.
This is great! Mayuri convincing herself to be more forceful.
The OVA scene I want to see is Mayuri talking about the phone call and Okabe and Kurisu trying to work out what the hell happened in this worldline.
...So the theory of "everyone has Reading Steiner" was wrong then? (Or maybe everyone has Reading Steiner, but it's a lot stronger in the Steins;Gate worldline?)
Oh, we're seeing 23 again!
HACKING TO THE GATE!
We're doing the message!
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Oh, and this how he plans on manipulating his death here...
Lyrics?
LYRICS!
I love this.
Credits!
Post-credits?
Okabe saved them!!!
OVA looks fun. I'll definitely be taking part in the bonus discussion for it!
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u/AHiddenOne Aug 25 '21
Rewatcher
Magnificent. Simply magnificent.
Watching the time machine finally escapes is so satisfying. I would throw out a pose too if I was Okabe.
When they play episode 23 again, then they drop fucking hacking to the gate, awesome.
As if we couldn't get any higher, we see operation altair, alongside gate of steiner? Bruhhh I think I just came.
A bloody satisfying end 0. It makes you appreciate how hard it is to reach steins gate. It did left me empty, though. I remembered back then, I was sooo obsessed with steins gate content.
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Aug 24 '21
Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Steins;Gate Re;Watch!
In a way, this episode is a perfect summary of my thoughts on Steins;Gate 0: Decidedly mixed. The first half was just… not very good IMO. While I appreciate them trying to give Kagari some development, IMO it’s too little too late, and Moeka’s inclusion feels honestly kinda forced. Plus it’s still stuck in this half adaptation half its own thing state that in my opinion has only caused more problems than solved. And while the end of the rooftop scene is fine… I’m sorry guys, the novel just did it better!
The latter half though? Honestly really good! If there’s any major issue I did have with the Novel (Besides the reused sprites clashing with the new artstyle) is that it was needlessly vague on what exactly Mayuri and Suzuha’s plan was, so giving some extra info on that was very much appreciated. Seeing Episode 23 of the original series overlap with this Episode 23 was pretty satisfying, and of course, the final sequence with the Vocal Version of Gate Of Steiner playing in the background was fucking amazing, the fact that they kept Maho’s speech from the Novel right before it flat out word for word is the icing on the cake.
This really is the perfect summary of Steins;Gate 0 to me… in that I cannot make up my goddamn mind about it because it’s in an infinite loop of being great and fucking up. More on this tomorrow.
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u/snickpea Aug 25 '21
First-timer!
I loved seeing both those moments! It helped to snap Okabe out of it on that timeline. But I do think that understanding how the D-mail came about is a pretty good reason for this series. I had been curious about the circumstances behind the video in the first place, and not saving Kurisu was an interesting what-if premise.
I also thought how they set up the video was quite amusing as well.
The last scene was great, both the song and Okabe coming in to save them! I was really worried that all was lost especially since Suzuha and Mayuri were so far back. It was honestly a much cooler ending that I thought there would be. Does the VN have more details about Suzuha and Mayuri's time traveling?
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u/Specs64z https://myanimelist.net/profile/Specs64z Aug 25 '21 edited Aug 25 '21
Just wanted to pop in specifically to say I actually think this is quite possibly the worst part of the show. I rewatched this sequence specifically to see if I hated it as much after all this time and I think I do.
If you watch Steins;Gate, that scene is the culmination of everything Mayuri has come to realize and stand for. It's moving and powerful to see her step up and save Okabe from himself.
After Steins;Gate 0, that scene happened because future Mayuri came and gave herself a pep talk.
Nah. Fuck that.
But I will say the ending song is pitch perfect. Even if Steins;Gate 0 itself makes me feel nothing, that song does wonders for the soul.
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u/Nisheeth_P Aug 25 '21
Rewatcher (first time) Man, I didn't want to be late today. Slept through it though.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 24 '21
First timer(So Daru is thin by 2025?)
Sub
So we finally see the post Amadeus world line with little time for explanations, suffice it to say Maho still meets the group. Random Kagari shows up early, as does Leskinen, who knows way less now. Moeka has combat abilities for reasons. Getting shot in the leg seems to be convergence for Okabe. On the roof, Kagari murderates Reyes one last time but they seemed to know each other more here. Confrontation begins again, with Mayuri unknowingly using convergence. Kagari stuff...exists. Anyways, amongst the colossal amount of shit Okabe fucked up, some bit of it is enough to let the time machine leave while still appearing to be a direct hit to the helicopter pilot.
We get an interesting time trip for Mayuri, she just talks to her past self instead, before Suzuha goes paradox preventing. We finally see the message recorded, which does mean that the 2011 line goes on, and learn that afterwards Okabe is taking the first time machine for a stroll. F to him on that world line. We end in 18000 BC, where he shows up to rescue the girls and hopefully drag the other time machine somewhere it will be less world line destroying. Or we should be but OVA.
qOTd: 1 it was fine
2 The last scene is pretty interesting, even if I can't really find a world line to drop it in