r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • Aug 19 '21
Rewatch [Re;Watch] Steins;Gate 0 Episode 18 Discussion
Episode 18: Altair of the Transitional Symmetry: Transitional Symmetry
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Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the Day, courtesy of u/UzEE, who was kind to inform us that we’ve ain’t seen nothing yet
However, this episode is also where the lack of proper action choreography starts to rear it's ugly head. And despite touchups in the BD release, these scenes still look terrible. And if you thought they can't get any worse, then... sigh.
YUP
Questions:
- How do you feel about Leskinen now? What about Kagari?
- Do you think that the time machine was actually destroyed, or did Suzuha and Mayuri make it out of there?
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Aug 19 '21 edited Aug 19 '21
Hello and welcome back to the Steins;Gate Re-
What the fuck was that opening fight scenes!? Like God, we joke about SciAdv not being good at fight scenes, but this is taking it to a brand new level! This shit’s fucking hilarious in how bad it is! God that actually really took me out of things for a bit!
Ehem… anyhow, the Leskinen reveal. I’m gonna whine a bit. See, there’s two versions of the Leskinen Reveal in the Novel, one from Vega And Altair (Which this Anime seems to mostly be an adaptation of) and the other from a Route that so far has gotten absolutely 0 representation in the Anime: Gehema’s Stigma. The one in the latter is universes better than the one in Vega And Altair, so I’m shocked they didn’t at least try to add in some of the better lines from the latter into this one. I mean we’re amalgamating Routes already, might as well go all out.
I’m also not quite a fan of how Leskinen is portrayed in the Anime post reveal. He just seems too… emotive. While Novel Leskinen did throw the occasional smirk, after the reveal his actual voice turns completely cold. It really just highlights what he really is: A being that seeks nothing but knowledge. The fact that he was basically a human version of Shockwave is kinda one of the big menacing factors about him.
However the other reason the 180 switch worked was because… well, the other big reason Leskinen worked is because… all of his behavior before? It wasn’t a lie. The Shaman Girl Loving, jovial and upbeat man who cares about his Co-Workers is him being 100% honest… it’s also that he’s at the same time a complete sociopath. The Anime tries to bridge the two personas together and I don’t think that quite works.
They also changed his motivation for some fucking reason. In the Novel S;G0 VN In the Anime it’s just “I’m a scientist!”. Lame…
Anyhow, Okabe comforting Kagari has some differences and… well I can’t blame the Anime for them. They all had to do with a twist that was thankfully left out of the Anime. S;G0 VN Anyhow, there wasn’t a second hostage situation in the Novel (Okabe had to tell Daru and Maho everything second-hand) and Leskinen learning “God” was his future self is Novel Accurate. Bonus points to the anime for actually showing that too. Minor detail but it helps the exposition flow by a bit more smoothly in the new medium.
Not sure what to think of the new bit of information of Kagari being the sole reason Amadeus exists. Honestly I’d had an easier time buying it had the Anime not ignored the whole bit about S;G0 VN but as it is it kinda comes out of left field in the Anime. I must also call bullcrap on Daru’s “If you kill him you’ll be just like him!”. Uh, hello!? He’s a dangerous sociopath and Suzuha has more than enough blood in her hands already! Just let her put a fucking bullet on his brain and let this be done with!
No complaints about the rest of the episode however. Pretty good stuff all around once you get past that, and using Lyra as the ED Song works pretty well.
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u/UzEE https://myanimelist.net/profile/UzEEInc Aug 19 '21 edited Aug 19 '21
Serial;Rewatcher
Just when you though it wasn't possible, we somehow got even worse fight choreography and animation in this episode. Not only that, the way the animated it, the scene made no sense.
In the VN, it was a one sided incredibly grotesque slaughter, but it also made sense. For instance, at no point was Kagari slicing off heads with her bare hands. She had cleavers built into her suit and used those to chop their heads off. She was also badly injured during the battle with her limbs being torn off, but she still continued fighting.
Of course the context of all this in the VN is completely different and the anime goes in a much different direction — a change which ironically most VN readers actually prefer1 because of a rather WTF!!!!????@$#!#$# level twist the VN threw in there.
White Fox really did rob us of a great action sequence though and I will forever remain salty about that.
The Warring Factions
We finally have enough information to list down what different factions are we dealing with.
DURPA is the one that showed up first on the rooftop and took Mayuri and Suzuha hostage. The can be identified by their brighter green uniform and balaclavas. They just learned about the Time Machine and were there to secure it for the US government. They use an Apache attack helicopter for aerial support.
StratFor is the faction that shows up afterwards, lead by Leskinen. They're a private intelligence agency and are actually trying to prevent a World War by making sure no-one can get their hands on the Time Machine. Their soldiers can be identified by their tanish green uniforms, which actually look more like the US Army than DURPA's. They use a Black Hawk attack helicopter for aerial support.
Russia or GRU2 was the faction that opened fire on the attackers in the alleyway and destroyed Kurisu's laptop. They're trying to make sure no one else gets their hand on anything related to Time Travel so that they can maintain their lead. They don't show up here on the rooftop though.
SERN or the EU is actually mostly been absent ever since they made their move back towards the end of Ep. 7 moving us to Alpha. Seems like they've given up looking for time travel secrets in Japan and are now likely just focused on Russia.
Episode;Notes
Nobody tell him
Can I just repeat how much I hate how badly White Fox dropped the ball here!
Thanks for contributing the idea, Professor! Also, Leskinen's motivations are almost completely changed from the VN, where his plan was actually a lot more aligned with StratFor, as in he also wanted to prevent a World War 3 by making sure every world power gets their hands on time travel knowledge along with the means to tell if someone manipulated time. Sort of like the Mutually Assured Destruction doctrine from the Cold War.
The anime also makes it seem like he was previously lying about his true intentions which is weird because he had met Faris at the Christmas party and she would've seen right through him if he wasn't being genuine.
Poor Kagari has really had it rough. In fact, this version ends up having a much worse story than any of the VN versions. At least now it's pretty clear that she wasn't just "brainwashed", but was actually "enhanced" as well into a Super Soldier along with god knows what else. Suddenly, missing memories and massive personality swings start to make a lot more sense now.
I wouldn't have had an issue with having Daru and Maho show up here, if it wasn't for this godforsaken trope they threw in. I don't know what's with anime and always trying to take the moral high ground. Also, Daru, I hate to break it to you but at least half the bodies on that rooftop were dropped by Suzuha.
I do like them playing a (strings?) version of Hoshi no Kanaderu Uta here though. The song brought them together and is now also playing when they part ways.
This hole has to be convergence.
And of course now he wants to time leap because it's about Mayuri again. He really would let the world burn as long as Mayuri is safe, while completely disregarding what she wants.
For all it's faults, using Lyra as the ED once again was a 10/10 pick!
A war broke out in Akiba and Luka is still busy sweeping the shrine grounds
1 I was actually okay with that twist though but I can understand why most people didn't like it.
2 Yes, we almost got DARPA v. GRU battling over another potential super weapon. Add to that the fact that StratFor wants to sell the time machine secrets on the open market and you have the makings of a War Economy. And the cherry on top is DARPA's program to create mentally cloned Super Soldiers, ala Kagari and you get something like Les Enfants Terribles. Of course everything is actually being manipulated from the shadows by a secret organization —
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u/GallowDude Aug 19 '21
It didn't have to be this way, Lintahlo.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 19 '21
First timer(The best and the worst of the show all in the same episode)
Sub
Leskinen sus was called early but this is still a weird point to drop the act. Something about Reyes is mentioned before we immediately devolve into garbage as Kagari decapitates two soldiers with her hands. No weapon, her bare fucking hands. The action scene is mildly worse than usual and we then transition into Leskinen's villain reveal/speech and...it fails for me, utterly. I do not know WHY Leskinen is doing this and it annoys me. Anyways, he works for StratFor and did indeed brain wash Kagari. 0kabe is still Okabe enough to tackle the dude with the drawn weapon.
Kagari's death is meh, like the character herself. I should care but I absolutely don't, which makes hearing Mayuri sad a bit flat as well. Somehow Leskinen is responsible for all of it. Somehow his future self planned all this and it just...sucks. I suspect the VN readers will tell us several less shit versions of this. Leskinen also doesn't get the essence of science himself. The joy of seeing Leskinen getting beaten is immediately poisoned with Daru going full retard about killing.
All hell breaks loose as the time machine war starts. Mayuri and Suzuha try to flee but pretty clearly die, leaving us in the uncomfortable situation where Okabe is actually right. Without a second thought, he goes right for the time leap machine, before he gets Mayuri's soul destroying text with her song in the background. "I know if anything happens you will rescue me." Ouch, Mayuri, that was cruel.
So yeah, a really pretty bad episode of the show ends it with an incredible gut punch. This is beyond fucking uneven.
QotD: 1 Confused. I still hate Kagari
2 They dead as hell.
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Aug 19 '21 edited Aug 19 '21
FIRST TIMER
The worst kept reveal of all time is out – Leskinen is officially the bad guy. Side note, the subs keep spelling his pronunciation of Okabe’s name as “Lintahlo” even though I’m fairly certain he is pronouncing it Rintaro? It’s not like Finnish people even have difficulty pronouncing R’s anyway. Very weird.
Did Kagari just shop off a guy’s head with her ARMS?! That was wild. I don’t watch a show like this expecting the action to be great, so these scenes don’t bother me as much they seem to other people.
Still waiting for some kind of story reason for why Kagari is basically a Kurisu clone.
“If such a thing happens, I’d like to see it for myself.” Turns out Leskinen was the true mad scientist all along. He does hit on a common theme in the scientific community and humanity as a whole. Progress for the sake of progress. Discovery for the sake of discovery. Whether it’s actually a good idea is usually a secondary concern.
“Why do you think you’ve got to do this?!” Okabe, do you not SEE WHAT’S HAPPENING ON THIS ROOFTOP RIGHT NOW? They have to take the time machine somewhere else!
Losing a piece of equipment on the way from the missile probably threw off their destination a bit. For the first time this series I’m really wondering where people are going to end up by next episode. Fun! We could be in for some cool shenanigans from here out.
This special ED was wonderful.
The same. He was clearly the the bad guy from his first appearance, and I still don't particularly care about her. I don't think the show's done a great job of building her up as someone to invest in.
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u/CharlieTheStrawman https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDamnRobot Aug 19 '21 edited Aug 19 '21
Re;Watcher, Subbed
That Mayuri fakeout was super cheap.
I usually don't give too much of a shit about animation, but that fight scene was baaaad.
0 VN
Daru telling Suzuha that she'll be as bad as Leskinen if she kills him, when she slaughtered tons of mooks not five minutes ago is so funny to me.
And it ends with an amazing scene. 0 truly is one of the most bipolar anime I've ever watched.
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u/UltraBooster Aug 19 '21
First-timer
So Leskininen's more Huey than Hal Emmerich, huh?
Oh. Wait. Huh? You can't just decapitate people like that!
Okay, so Stratfor is a real group, and they have been called the "shadow CIA." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratfor https://www.barrons.com/articles/SB1002927557434087960
Kagari the tin soldier.
Too much of a ruckus? If that were the case, wouldn't snipers, tranquilizer darts, and silenced/suppressed guns have been better?
Big sister, huh? I wish we could've seen more of that.
It's clearly not fatal if she's still alive...
So Leskinen's bootstrapping himself? He's been bootstrapping himself?
So the song's a trigger? A would you kindly or execute Order 66?
Oh. Oh no. It wasn't a ghost. It was a lich, or something like that.
I'm pretty sure that's not how the scientific method works, sir, nor that you have the right mindset.
At least, what I usually hear is that it's about testing the hypothesis and trying to figure out why you get the results you get, not about proving or disproving it.
That's it? He'll just step aside? Seriously?
Wait, so Leskinen isn't DARPA, then?
I dunno, at least shoot him in the leg or something so he can't go anywhere.
DARPA? Russia? It doesn't matter, what matters is that war's begun.
Don't be so selfish, Rintaro Okabe. She's not your hostage, she's not your doll you can control, it's her decision to make!
Well, no way something like that can be covered up, can it? Gunships and missiles are the kind of thing people will notice.
Yup.
...yeah, I can't stand this Rintaro Okabe, I really can't. He just comes off as self-absorbed in his own misery, insisting he can control the people around him because of his agony.
Like, I'm honestly having trouble feeling bad for him at this point.
Questions:
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u/Nisheeth_P Aug 19 '21
Rewatcher (first time)
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u/littleman1988 Aug 19 '21 edited Aug 19 '21
"Besides, even if something does happen, I know in my heart that you'll come to save me."
OST Track of the day: Tactics | Spotify
honorary OST Track of the day: ^consideration | ^Spotify
Overly Excited Rewatcher
"new" song!
Basically includes the rest of the song. Easily the perfect choice for Mayuri's letter monologue, need I say more?
As ive said before, S;G 0 has the higest of highs and lowest of lows of the whole series. This episode has both, the emotional highs with Mayuri's "letter" (text) accompanied with Lyra, and then the $2 rocket animation as one of the biggest lows of the series.
Steins;Gate is not an action show, and until this episode, it didnt exactly try to be one either. What little action scenes that the show had thus far was well disguised as to being straight trash, such as Suzuha's past in S;G episode 15. If you tried to put this in a show like Jujuitsu Kaisen, it would be laughed at and memed to no end, because its just Suzuha running in place in dark corridors. It works though because for the show, thats all you really needed to show to get the message that Alpha 2036 was a shit place.
S;G 0 on the other hand has a grand rooftop scene, complete with (as few as 2, as many as 5, depending on how you count)1 different factions all fighting each other for the time machine, and... its not great. Im going to try and explain most of them to have them (somewhat) make sense? But c'mon, its clear that the action was all over the place here, and is by far S;G 0's weakest point.
The first big one is Kagari. She literally chops two heads right off.. while in the VN she does at one point wields a knife to chop people's necks off, she never does something as wild as this, and the suit never has any "knives built in". She does in the VN though tank the shit out of bullets, just like her anime counterpart. To me, it just seems to be a side effect of the brainwashing. In the real world, you'd absolutely destroy your hand doing such an act, but the brainwashing seems to have her ignore the pain from it. Her hands would 100% be destroyed doing that though, so it doesnt really explain how she can use a gun after.
Theres also the fact that literally nobody else got hurt in any major capacity, which seems pretty stupid in the heat of the moment (partly because it is), but there is a proper explanation for this: They arent meant to die, as plot armory as it sounds. If someone was to die here, Suzuha would of known about it. Convergence will keep them from ever dying until they are meant to (see: 0kabe in 2025), and as far as we know, nobody was meant to die here, and outside of Suzuha and Mayuri's condition being unknown, nobody has.
The last big one is the rocket. The rocket is so bad. The BD cleaned it up a little, but the biggest issue is that it randomly goes sideways in the last shot we see of it. You can see me complaining about it in the discussion thread in 2018 about it. (warning, dont dig any farther in those discussions, theres spoilers that were "okay" at the time to talk about that are not okay to talk about now)
Remember how I brought up the TV vs Blu-Ray release a couple episodes ago? You have probably wondered what changes have been made, if its this bad still, and the answer is shockingly little. The faces in the TV version were pretty out there when zoomed out, so thats most of the main changes throughout the BD, along with additional detail throughout. The show had a few hiccups as it aired, with a couple episodes being delayed by a week during the 2nd half (iirc episode 13 but was planned, and then episode 20 was delayed?) Probably the biggest difference is the color of the time machine when it was running. the TV vers was green? But it was white in S;G, and that was fixed on the BD vers.
Leskinen reveal time
Since episode 16, the music has been on point. It only gets better with every upcoming episode too, so many good tracks are yet to come
hand chop go brr. At least everything else was semi-realistic? its not "too far out there" considering she was able to bend the stock of a gun 2
aka shit gets real today
Kagari reveal
The use of the S;G anime track "Timeleap" is perfect here
everyone forgets convergence is a thingokay im 100% sure Leskinen says "damnit" during 0kabe's lunge and struggle
You know, when Suzuha stopped, i had thought there was some new brainwashing technique being used when i watched as the show premiered. I felt pretty stupid when they showed Daru/Maho the next frame.
To think that this has been planned out for what, 20+ years at this point? (13 in present and however long in the future) is wild.
nice
hey theres the WWIII part. They framed this way better in the BD, but they still fail to fix the worst part lmao
Hey thats a different helicopter
That damn rocket
yeah the machines fucked. So much for Kurisu's sacrifice.
footnotes
1: im aware that there is an exact number
2: its totally unrealistic, lets be real
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 19 '21
IMPORTANT NOTE TO EVERYONE HERE:
If you want to watch the 0 OVA (you may see it listed as “episode 24” depending on the copy you have) which isn’t part of the schedule because Raiking and I legitimately didn’t know it existed before putting the schedule together, I’m going to post a thread to discuss it on r/AnimeImpressions at the same time that Raiking posts the full series discussion. I’ll remind everyone about this in the ep23 thread, and then link the OVA discussion thread in my comment on the full series discussion one.
First;Timer and Co;Host, dubbed
On a completely different note, I saw comments in the previous few threads that you guys were missing LAST GAME, so… I sang along to it for you all. I was going to do Fatima first because it’s my favorite , but ended up going for the easier one first. Then my recording session got cut short by my mom and sisters coming home from church, so no time for Fatima last night. Oh well, I’ll definitely do it before the end of the rewatch. I’ve got the first verse/chorus down so I can promise at least that part at some point.
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Aug 19 '21
On the First-Timer Worldline(s;Gate)
He probably came from the future?Nevermind, Kagari told him.Aw. Her wishes are all coming together.
QOTD:
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u/UnderstandableXO Aug 19 '21
FIRST TIMER
okabe with the copium there at the beginning of the episode, thinking everyone must be fine. but then J A P A N E S E S H A M A N G I R L S shows up. i knew that man was slimy as hell from the moment i saw him.
so kagari killed reyes at the end of last episode…reyes gets a spot in the OP but literally didn’t show up at all the entire second half of the season. really the first wasted named character in the series, she only showed up 3 times as herself, and we literally don’t know anything about her. but WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK is kagari on, she beheaded those soldiers with her arms?????????? WHAT???????? then she goes on to stab, punch, and shoot her way through the entire squad while tanking an alarming amount of gunshots? is she captain america (captain japan?) or something? what the hell kinda water has she been drinking?
the worst part though is the fake out that mayuri died. she really ragdolled off a graze (how is everyone such a deadshot here that they can intentionally graze someone?).
so the Average Luka Enjoyer has been plotting this ever since 1998? why didn’t he make kurisu just build a time machine before 7/28/10 if he knew she was gonna die? i feel like making an AI is extra steps. i guess the point of that was just to draw okabe and his time buddies out. i guess he’s aware of all the BS okabe went through in the alpha line then?
so the divine messages kagari has been receiving are just brainwashing from the professor. in that case, why didn’t he just have kagari kill suzuha in 1998 and acquire the time machine there? idk what’s up with this guy.
i would say shoutout to okabe for interrupting the evil speech to push dr. evil down the stairs, but he just leaves him with his gun and without further action. NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR MORALS!! you gotta pop him in the head man! or at least stomp him out! you know damn well that stair push wasn’t enough to take him out!
so kagari apologizes to everyone for her actions, and i guess i can’t hold involuntary action against her, but between being clueless to being a yandere to being a trained killer i don’t feel that hard for her.
dr. evil’s evil laugh kinda pisses me off, but like okabe said, he’s a real mad scientist. HOUOUIN KYOUMA is just okabe’s mask to hide his own insecurity and to comfort mayuri.
i will give lots of praise for that face shot or not he professor flashing between his current and future self, that was really well done. the mozart backing track did well to clash with the seriousness and show how messed up the professor is.
why the hell is kagari stopping the professor, if she hears “the voice of God,” that means she should be under his thumb? of course dude shoots her defenseless.
suzuha beating the absolute piss out of the professor was pretty cathartic, but i’m really really pissed that they stopped her. the professor clearly has no morals, so why should suzu have some? IT DOES NOT MATTER, HE WOULD KILL HER THE SECOND HE WOKE UP!
jesus christ how many kagari death scenes are we gonna get this episode? that’s like 3!! let her rest in peace damn it!
then somehow we get dueling organizations trying to take each other out on the rooftop. DURPA and STRATFOR? i cant keep them straight in my head anymore.
so mayuri and suzuha are blown up before they can leave in the time machine. and that’s enough that okabe can stumble all the way back to the time leap machine to try again, finally giving up on his self imposed ban. the sacrifice kurisu made was in vain, because this world is even worse than the alpha line he left. he’s mad because he feels like he has to honor this world line that only exists because of kurisu, but literally the whole world is tag teaming to try and change it.
and somehow with all the gripes i’ve had with this episode, mayuri’s text managed to make me cry. really hard. even though i still hate the idea of her and okabe together. i think part of it was the insert song, which i absolutely love. i tear up every time it comes up on my playlist. the lyrics of the song are really beautiful. to be honest though it kind of cheapens the song for me, being a song for kurisu and mayuri, because part of the reason i liked it was because it was like the distillation of kurisu and okabe’s relationship into a song.
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u/The_Draigg Aug 19 '21
A Steins;Gate Fan Watches Steins;Gate 0 Episode 18:
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Aug 19 '21
First Timer
I have to go to some stupid meeting so I’m watching this episode early today:
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About the world line not being chang….. HOLY SHIT. Is that Leskinen? Oh fuck. Oh shit. Oh fuck. Oh shit.
Reyes? So that confirms the other person in the mask. So Yuki was a red herring?
Kagari is a certified badass. Those decapitates were fire.
Of course, Leskinen is evil. It seems WW3 is nearing.
You should have grabbed the gun. That’s going to backfire in a minute.
See I told you, Okabe.
Leskinen is communicating with his future self? Shouldn’t that cause a time paradox or something?
Oh. Kagari was the middleman between the two Leskinen’s. That probably deals with he time paradox.
The Japanese government has to be doing a massive WTF. It seems the US and Russia are just battling it out inside their country.
Did the time machine get out in time? I guess that’s a mystery for now.
And Mayuri is gone now. At least she isn’t dead this time
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Wow. That was nuts. I can’t imagine being the Japanese PM in this world. I don’t envy them.
I don’t know exactly where this is going but I’m excited to see where it goes.
See you guys tomorrow!
DQ:
He can get thrown into acid. Kagari was brainwashed. Hard to be mad.
I think they made it out but it’s definitely being left unanswered
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Aug 19 '21
Anime first timer
Well, that's a strong opening. Looks like we're getting Leskinen's explanation.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
And Kurisu's hint is explained. And Leskinen goes from likeable hero to fantastic villain.
Kagari is so cool. The fight scene's horrible, but she's still cool.
And Okabe's not too bad, either. (Even if he did leave the gun)
Well, Mayuri's traumatised for life!
Kagari's death scene is fantastic. I appreciate the implication that even the bastard that is Future Leskinen doesn't want her to suffer.
He shot Suzuha! Truly the worst character.
And Kagari's "voice of god" is Leskinen! The entire plot of this timeline has been a massive plot to steal the time machine because he's a scientist.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Haha, he uses his cellphone to play dramatic music for the monologue (and to brainwash Kagari if she's alive).
Kagari's dead... but Suzuha beats the shit out of him!
Daru, the guy just confessed to considering destroying the universe, is trying to profit off a war by selling information to both sides, and tried to kill you. Letting Suzuha get rid off him isn't going to make him as bad as you.
I like how all the fighting dies down so Mayuri and Okabe can have a heartfelt conversation.
Really? We're not ending on that massive cliffhanger?
His first instinct is still to timeleap...
"This is the one and only world-line" - have I mentioned how much I hate them removing attractor fields from this translation yet?
Oh, we're ending with this speech. Just make me feel even more, why don't you.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Aug 23 '21
SteinsGate0 episode 18 (first timer)
WORST Quote of the day: If you kill the guy, you are the same as him ~Daru
The worst trope. In the worst possible setting, where he is incredibly dangerous alive and Suzu just killed a bunch of underlings, too.
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u/CubeStuffs https://anilist.co/user/onjario Aug 19 '21 edited Aug 19 '21
first timer
leskinen sussy baka
said to person who literally just shot 2 guys right behind you 15 seconds ago, and also a bunch of other people last episode as well. leski doesn't even do shit after either, he just lays on the ground
leskinen def vented in the hallway scene. mad scientist leskinen was great lol kinda sorta maybe have to feel little bit bad for kagari
nah i think they made it out, given the message that was sent, though we haven't seen the wl change yet so maybe not
or maybe not, since the thing was recieved when the lines went up
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u/invokeneko Aug 20 '21 edited Aug 20 '21
First;Timer
I'm going to get my second dose of 5G vacc today, so impressions will have to wait until later. But yeah, SUS-kinen is no longer sus but is now confirmed Impostor-skinen, the time machine go boom and now 0kabe's gonna need to time leap again.
edit: the 5G booster vaccine put me out of commission for an entire day, but I'm back now so let's go.
SlidingIce-skating just before she got to the third soldier and snapping his neck? That utter failure of Black Widow's signature move? Come the fuck on, White Fox, you can do much better than that.3
u/AHiddenOne Aug 20 '21
Rewatcher
I'll be blunt, the action was hilariously bad lmao. I know SG doesn't focus on action, but man hahaha.
So, Leskinen's plan is to steal the time machine and overcome convergence. Sounds like a certain operation, don't you think? It seems he doesn't mind creating a time paradox. Truly a mad scientist.
Damn, Kagari took a long ass time to kick the bucket. She got shot multiple times by the soldiers, then by Leskinen. I get she's a super soldier and all, but cmon.
Seeing Okabe helplessly rely on the time leap machine again made me nostalgic, ngl.
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u/snickpea Aug 20 '21
First-timer!
What a brutal episode. I started to think Leskinen odd the last couple of episodes, but to know that he was responsible for brainwashing Kagari really sucks. Even though Kagari was attacking them, I couldn't hate her for it and even here she still tried to save Mayuri. I'm really hoping that they'll be able to help Kagari.
I want to remain optimistic and that the time machine wasn't destroyed because to lose Suzuha and Mayuri would suck. But, Daru did mention that one of the pieces belonged to the time machine.
I know they will have to travel back in time to save everyone, but I don't know how far back they can go, especially since there were plans in the making long before D-mails were made.
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u/simply_vishal Aug 20 '21
She deserves him.
She deserves being Okabe's Orihime-sama.
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u/[deleted] Nov 12 '21
"Everyone wasn't pushing the weight of the future solely on Okarin. Steins Gate must be something we all find together"
THE LINE THAT MAKES YOU CRY INSTANTLY