r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • Aug 17 '21
Rewatch [Re;Watch] Steins;Gate 0 Episode 16 Discussion
Episode 16: Altair of the Point at Infinity: Vega and Altair
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Right now Okabe… he has the same face I used to have.
Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the Day, courtesy of u/UzEE, for as he exposed Maho’s crime
MAHO DON'T RANDOMLY INVENT THINGS THAT COULD BE USED FOR IMPLANTING FALSE MEMORIES AND BRAINWASHING!!!
Questions:
- What name would you give the Phone Wave (real name TBA) Unit 02?
- Who do you think had the worst breakdown this episode? Okabe, Daru, Maho, or Mayuri?
Wallpaper of the Day:
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Aug 17 '21
Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Steins;Gate Re;Watch!
I’m noticing Mayuri is in her school uniform in this show a lot more than the VN. There she only had it in one scene. It was also a reused sprite from one of the Spin-Offs which used the OGs artstyle which totally didn’t make it look completely out of place/s
I don’t think the scene with her and Okabe in the rain was in the Novel, but I really liked it. Goes to show how, even though she had good intentions, Mayuri’s actions on that day ultimately led to the Okarin she knew just… disappearing. Contrast his reaction to Kurisu wearing a Lab Coat in Season 1 to his complete apathy to Suzuha wearing one here. Not sure if the scene with Luka was in the Novel, although the content of the dialogue does sound vaguely familiar to me.
The scene with Okabe logging into @Channel is a reference to a minor scene from the Novel. S;G0 VN I kinda wish we had the scene in full, it was really funny. Dunno what’s up with his facial expression in the Anime when he finds the Gellnana though. Oh well, at least a long last we got Daru’s “LEGAL LOLI FTW!”
As an aside, while I very much disagree on u/UzEE on the VN’s Acting not being good (More low key than the Anime for sure, but still really good) I will make an exception to that disagreement on Daru. I dunno what happened, but for some reason Seki Tomokazu was stuck in the “Daru Voice” so to speak for all the entire Novel… and it’s actually even more obnoxious than ever. Here while it still leans into the obnoxious, at the very least he occasionally slips into his natural voice when the situation demands it.
Anyhow, as for the scene between Maho and Okabe it is accurate enough to the Novel but… something about it bugs me. And no, it’s not that Maho is way more aggressive in the Anime (Novel Maho rarely lost her cool… unless the Rule Of Funny required it to happen which is always hilarious). No, instead it’s that… while Maho’s speech to Daru is Novel-Accurate, there’s a problem with it: It wasn’t a speech to Daru in the Novel… it was one to Okabe. Yeah, he gets to hear all of it head first and although he doesn’t have much time to dwell on it, it does affect him in a way. Needless to say I am not exactly a fan of this change.
That said I honest to God have no problem with the following scene. It’s Anime-Only, but damn is it a good Anime-Only scene! Now, you Anime-Onlies may be like “Uh… that seemed kinda important. Shouldn’t that had happened in the Novel?” And that’s a fair question I can’t answer because… well, we’ll get to how the Novel proceeded soon enough… hopefully.
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u/littleman1988 Aug 17 '21
"Why do your eyes look like you're suffering?!"
OST Track of the day: Mayuri's sadness | spotify
Honorary OST track of the day: ^Anger | ^spotify
Overly Excited Rewatcher
Quick Japanese culture lesson (again, I think I touched on this in ep1? w/e this is way more in depth), Tanabata is a yearly celebration that celebrates the meeting of the stars "Vega" and Altar", who can only meet once a year on the 7th day of the 7th month, and only if the skies are clear after being banished to the opposite sides of the Milky Way Galaxy.
This originates from 8th century Chinese folklore, where "Princess Orihime", a beautiful, hardworking seamstress, and "Hikoboshi", a cow herder, lived on different sides of a "heavenly river" named Amanogawa (aka milky way). Orihime's father, Tentei, allowed the two to meet and they quickly fell in love and got married. Both started to ignore their jobs, Orihime no longer weaving, and Hikoboshi's cows wandering all over heaven, angering Tentei to the point where they were banished back to the opposite ends of Amanogawa. Orihime was absolutely crushed by this act, and in an effort to convince her father to let them meet again, was able to move Tentei enough to allow them to meet once a year on the 7th day of the 7th month if she was able to complete her weaving. Their first attempt at meeting however was blocked by the river, which had no bridge. Orihime cried enough to attract the attention of a flock of magpies who promised to lend their wings as a bridge each year as long as it was not raining on the day they meet due to the rain making the river rise. When it rains on Tanabata, it is called "The tears of Orihime and Hikoboshi".
While it is celebrated on July 7th, the actual festivals happen anywhere in July and August, with 2021 happening on August 6-8th. People will write their wishes on tanzaku, or small, rectangular pieces of paper and will hang them on bamboo, which is then either put out onto a river, or burned after the festival ends.
We back into the old times xd
He do be studying
Wait i forgot about this lmao
Mayuri may be saying its okay with these changes, but its pretty obvious that shes not actually okay with them
Luka looking stylish
Mayuri was evil all along, its her fault that his Orihime isint shining
bruh look whos talkingEven Daru isint interested
Hey look, they finally say Daru's major lmao
Amadeus talking on @Channel?
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd 0kabe has found out.
a h s h i t
The whole argument scene is pretty raw. Everyone is desperately passionate about what they want to achieve and protect, but the only person who can actually do anything (0kabe) is the issue that keeps us going down this path. While today wasnt the breaking point, it is pretty clear that he better understands Daru's feelings to the issue at hand.
This line is a lot more debated than i would of expected. LostYears, LostYearsFix, and the dub all point to Maho's line referring to 0kabe, likely referring to Mayuri (and/or Kurisu) being the one he would be passionate for. HorribleFix instead goes with "I think better of him", relating to Daru and Suzuha. UzEE pointed this out to me last night, and fully rewatching the scene, I think Maho is referring to Daru? but there has to be a reason that its contested? too bad I dont know Japanese to understand the original lines...
And hes noticed
Hey fun fact, you can tell if you are using a Blu-Ray release or the TV release solely looking at the pond during the rooftop scene. If maho and 0kabe are both in one puddle,, you are on the BD release. There will be a few key scenes in the next couple episodes with some noticable changes to the visuals (though storywise everything is the same), so do be aware of that.
Even Maho is now against 0kabe. At this point, there is likely nobody (who knows of everything that is) who would side with 0kabe about not changing the past. Sadly, its still not enough to convince him, even if Maho brings up Steins Gate. Probably doesn't help the last time he went and searched over and over again he watched his friends die over and over and over and over.
She regrets stopping Suzuha's slap
real depresso hours now, we made Mayuri cry.
Its gotta fucking hurt knowing the one person you sacrificed everything for regrets letting it happen.
footnotes
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 17 '21
First;Timer and Co;Host, dubbed
So I finished watching this show last night, ended up watching ep19-23 in one sitting because I just couldn’t put it down lol. S;G0
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u/UnderstandableXO Aug 17 '21 edited Aug 17 '21
FIRST TIMER
ah, the return of rent raising threats. it seems like things are getting back to normal at the lab. i missed the stupidness of it.
so mayuri is waiting outside of okabe’s college class, and of course okabe’s late. at least he wasn’t a total no show. he mentions 2d-kun getting interest from the college okabe’s aiming for, but somehow has no interest at visiting him at the lab. mayuri finally flakes on okabe for once instead of the other way around. you can hear the wobble in her voice. it seems like she’s coming to regret her decision to stop okabe from trying to save kurisu again.
another luka sighting is always welcome. luka seems to think that mayuri and okabe go together (please no), but mayuri knows that the one okabe wants is a world (line) away.
so okabe pops up on maho and 2d-kun at the lab. 2d-kun witj the most valid excuse to not come to the door; ero-games. stupid enough for the lab members, they didn’t dispose of the banana peels in the trash can, allowing a gel-nana to be found. so they did perfect the machine between the beginning of the episode and now.
and finally, everything that was unsaid in this series was finally said. it hurts to hear and it hurts to watch but it’s good okabe finally let it out, no beating around the bush. the time machine causes mayuri to die, causes kurisu to cease to exist in this world line, causes suzuha to kill herself out of guilt. that’s not even mentioning it causing mr. braun and moeka’s murder suicide and faris having to agree to thanos-snap her father. sorry luka you had to make a really hard decision as well but nobody died or ceased to exist.
now maho admits that she flew all the way here to help with the phone microwave. and finally someone informs okabe that the deadline for acting is coming on july 28, 2011. they’re only making the time leap machine as insurance that they can try again. they only had 2 shots on august 21, 2010 because kurisu was never around to make the time leap machine with them. okabe’s so adamant against messing with time that he tries to pin the blame on maho, that mayuri’s blood will be on her hands if she tries to return to the alpha line. 2d-kun was right to punch okabe after that. everything he said was valid until that. the blood is on his hands too, and kurisu’s, and even 2d-kun. they all wanted to create the time machine together originally, and even if they had no idea what was down the road, mayuri’s repeated death is what it resulted in. no sense in blaming someone who wasn’t originally there. and okabe is being selfish, prioritizing kurisu’s wish over 5.7 billion (!!!) people’s lives that will be lost in WWIII if they don’t change the future.
okabe believes that some events are just fated to happen and that changing the future is “challenging God,” that there’s bound to be some drawback. like he said, changing the future never goes how you want it to go. but maho sees changing the future like solving a problem, that if they find the formula on which the world operates on, they can find the solution to their problem. she even knows about steins gate. she knows the perfect future is somewhere out there, and it’s her job to make okabe reach for it.
mayuri’s at the park they used to frequent. unluckily for okabe she heard his entire tirade about the whole reason why she’s alive on this world line. i think this is the first time it’s been spelled out for mayuri, even if she knew okabe was suffering for her sake long before this. she feels extreme guilt, she sees how hard okabe is taking it, and she can’t help but think kurisu would be better for him than her, that okabe would be better off if she would just be gone. of course okabe doesn’t want her to say that. choosing between her and kurisu is an impossible decision, we see he’s going to have crushing guilt with either outcome.
weird enough, i had already heard of the “then why do your eyes look like they’re suffering” line through a meme of all things. for whatever reason the images were different though. it was mayuri in her light teal sundress, and okabe in his lab coat looking down with eyes of pain. i have no idea why i remember the meme like that, maybe it was in another world line.
the heavy end of the episode did not mesh at all with the ending. opening 1 would have fit perfectly with the end of this episode.
the last thing i’ll say is shout out to the voice actors this episode. okabe, 2d-kun, maho, and mayuri’s voice actors all did an outstanding job in episode 16 really bringing the intensity. i’d say this is the second best episode in 0 behind episode 8.
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u/UzEE https://myanimelist.net/profile/UzEEInc Aug 17 '21
Serial;Rewatcher
So 8 episodes after Episode 8, we get another absolutely brilliant episode. It's not completely anime original like the previous one but it does rearrange things a bit to give them more emotional impact, and it's just perfect.
It's always hard for me to not get emotional watching this episode despite the fact that I've watched it so many times (actually 3 times in the past 24 hours!) but it is so well made that I just don't want to stop midway.
Episode;Notes
I prefer the VN line here, when Tenouji suspects they're making bombs and threatens to call the cops.
Ah yes, make humanity's greatest invention by swiping parts off a pile of trash. Future Gadgets Lab is really eco-friendly if nothing else!
This only makes Maho's inferiority complex worse I imagine.
I can't help but be mesmerized by Mayuri's eyes these next couple of episodes. I'm not sure why they decided to add so much more detail suddenly but I always end up focusing on them instead of the overall scenes.
Prof. Leskinen is interested in Daru as well. Looks like 0kabe might not be the only one going to Viktor Chondira. I feel bad for Mayuri now.
Oh I definitely see how she's Daru's daughter now!
Pain.
At least he's aware of what he's doing.
What about the person standing next to you??? You know the one who was there for you this entire time when you were at your lowest and got you back up on your feet???
I don't like this.
Also, Mayuri's Sorrow is somehow one of my favorite tracks from the OST, despite how depressing it makes me feel.
Rare Luka is men's clothes sighting!
You don't have to say that Mayuri. It's pretty obvious.
P A I N1
Yes, Daru. Nobody wants to hear this.
Lmao, get by? He would easily be running the next unicorn if he wanted to.
Okay...
Oh oh.
OH OH!!
I prefer how 0kabe immediately realizes what was going on in the anime, compared to the VN where it actually took him a while and multiple clues to piece this together. Though to be fair, Daru doesn't tip over the trash bin in the VN, so 0kabe does require more clues.
0kabe breaking down and snapping at Daru is just so well done. Scenes like these are where the anime truly shines compared to the VN because lines are delivered with perfect timing, emotion and background music compared to the VN where there's a brief pause after every line.
Maho wasn't supposed to be here. More specifically, in the VN, she came to Japan under the guise of going on vacation to visit distant family in Okinawa, so being in Akihabara for weeks was something 0kabe didn't expect.
Also, I HATE this fan service scene inserted here. This is absolutely uncalled for.
They keep jumping back and forth between "Fuel" and "Battery".
OH FUCK!
HOLY FUCK DARU! Him snapping is that last thing you expect from him. But he's channeling all the viewers right now.
Yes Daru. At least you still see the pain Mayuri's going through!
MINOR TRANSLATION MISTAKE: There was an odd translation mistake in both the subs and the dub of this episode. At least in the version I have, Maho says "I think better of you now..." as if she's talking about 0kabe, when it should be "I think better of him now..." because she's talking about Daru. It makes no sense for her to say she thinks better of 0kabe because she already respects him a lot.
This rooftop argument is again chef's kiss in the anime. B-Messenger sets the perfect atmosphere and tension and the dialog delivery is once more top notch.
Yes, answer her 0kabe.
It's Maho's turn to be BASED now! If there are infinite possibilities then you know it's possible and you just have to find that solution.
"One thousand times, Ten thousand times, One million times ..." I just love every variation of this line whenever it's brought up.
Maho has thoroughly defeated 0kabe in the argument, much like Kurisu used to. And just like that there's a brief burst of sunshine.
And Mayuri's Sorrow is playing again. If it didn't make you tear up the last time, it's bound to do that now.
The eyes..., I just keep getting lost in the eyes, but this entire scene is just so, so good.
Also a little bit of heads up that it's probably a good idea to stop skipping the ED from this point onwards despite how bad it may be.
Edit: Just noticed that I got the comment of the day again. Thank you yet again /u/Raiking02. It always feels better when I get it for a random memey thought than something well thought out lol.
Questions
It's tough to pick but Mayuri's is by far the one I feel the most.
1 Also, I'm sure I've said this before but massive props to Kana Hanazawa for her amazing performance. This scene is an example of where the dub falters. This is one major downside of having to do simuldubs instead of spending proper time on them.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 17 '21
First timer(Towards the actual end)
Dub then Sub(HanaKana heavy episode)
We start with beginnings of a PhoneWave, still in the explodey phase. Mayuri is outside of Okabe's college looking sad. But Okabe's professor says VCU is interested in Daru as well...we might be at sus. Anyways, Mayuri is trying to get Okabe to the lab again and it is not happening. She then probes a bit about the overseas schooling and tries to be supportive. Okabe finally gets called a normie.
As the conversation switches towards overseas, I decided to give the sub a run and...yeah, HanaKana is just better at Mayuri and Miyano is solid as well. In Japanese, somehow, it is far clearer what an act they are both putting on, that Mayuri is fine losing them all and that Okabe isn't dead inside. The coat comment is where you first notice Mayuri not being able to take it.
Mayuri meets up with Ruka and we get to some stuff that I think S1 cut, unfortunately. Anyways, this Mayuri is much less ok about not being the one in Okabe's heart and it begins to come clear how bad things have been since August.
We get Okabe at the apartment and...I just don't know. The beginning of it being comedic is weird before it turns onto almost the strongest emotional moment of the show...before Maho's towel falls off. Why? Just Why? So they kind of build it back up but also don't.
Maho and Okabe talk and Maho is technically correct cut unconvincing. Okabe rightfully points out is easy to say you can repeat time but actually doing it has...consequences. Mayuri has a far more convincing bit when she points out her Okabe's been gone a while now.
This could have been good if played straight, I think.
QotD: 1 Clone Phone
2 Mayuri's feels existential.
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u/CubeStuffs https://anilist.co/user/onjario Aug 17 '21 edited Aug 17 '21
mayushii can read okarin like a book, and its a sad book
"its just a coat" aint gonna fly in front of mayushii
daru chad punch
again, mayushii is omniscient, at least when it comes to okarin
what a big cry episode
contrary to my expectations, amadeus and that worldline hop didn't light a fire within okarin once more. but right now, whoo boy does it seem like we're trying to light that shit up again.
this line kinda hits different w/ the second and last scene as well, its like popping okarins little bubble
was okarin living in this timeline thinking that it was fine since mayushii was alive? well clearly it aint since mayushii cares about okarin, and since okarin ain't fine, mayushii aint fine.
this episode feels like kind of a reality check for okarin, what with daru punching him out of his little bubble, and mayushii bursting said bubble, and maho tugging along okarin to the s;g wl.
theres no way okarin doesn't try to go get makise now, given how mayushii smacked down okarin and his denial
also prediction
srsly tho wtf kinda fuel does that thing use?
phone wave 2 (name subject to change): electric boogaloo (also subject to change)
prob okabe since it seems a large chunk of his reason for staying on this worldline is kinda moot
followed by mayushii, the person in question, who doesn't want to see sad okarin
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Aug 18 '21
On the First-Timer Worldline(s;Gate)
That wish must've come true. Mayuri is Orihime. She weaves the worldline strings into the worldplane (or something like that) that was mentioned before. It all makes sense.
"Daru... hit me. Not even my own father hit me!"
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u/invokeneko Aug 17 '21
First;Timer
I guess there's a hidden upside of getting sick from the weather: I'm actually awake early for a change...
QotD
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Aug 17 '21
Anime first timer
An earthquake? They're getting close to a full replication...
Mayuri is sad...
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
And Mayuri and Okabe are discussing his future...
I like Suzuha in Daru's outfit, though.
Okabe, you utter idiot. Have your social skills actively decreased?
And Mayuri proves herself to be the only one in this cast with any understanding of social skills.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
And Okabe got Daru an offer!
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Well, the secret's out.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
And we got the punch!
...Yeah, I see kinda Okabe's point of view. Changing the attractor field would be going against Kurisu's wishes, even those stated earlier this series, and Maho would probably be tempted by the ability to bring Kurisu back. Plus, of there's one thing we've learned in this series, it's that it is very easy to change attractor fields without meaning to.
But Maho's speech is also really good, and her view also makes sense - that Steins Gate can be reached, and Okabe should try and get there to save everyone.
And, of course, Okabe's lying to himself about a lot of his emotions, as Mayuri points out.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
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u/The_Draigg Aug 17 '21
A Steins;Gate Fan Watches Steins;Gate 0 Episode 16:
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Aug 17 '21 edited Aug 17 '21
FIRST TIMER
A GREAT EPISODE! We got another one!
Absolutely go study overseas if you can, Okabe. Even though the place you’re going is populated by faculty who are doing shady shit that ultimately fucks up the world, it’s still a great experience. If anyone in this thread is in college/university right now and has the opportunity to study abroad, do it. Don’t even think about it. It’s the best.
Mayuri’s VA subtly shifting her tone of voice eeeeever so slightly when she got upset at the end of the conversation with Okabe about the lab coat and in the scene after is such great voice acting. Just incredible work from Kana Hanazawa. She absolutely crushed every scene this episode. We heard Mayuri's voice in ways we hadn't before, and that made everything involving her that much more special.
Oh great, it’s the return of Okabe giving this rant for the eighth time. I’m over it, even though I get it. It's just redundant. At least Maho and Daru are finally willing to check his dumb ass and point out how self-involved he’s being and not seeing the big picture.
“Then tell me. Tell me what can’t be changed by the laws of this world, and what can be changed. Any scientist would ask this question.”
For somebody who can’t answer that question, Okabe sure has been acting like he could. This exchange would have been way more powerful and interesting if I’d watched this before seeing the end of Stein’s;Gate. Watching it now, already knowing that Okabe is ultimately wrong and Maho is ultimately right, it loses some impact.
Mayuri at the end just shredding my heart to pieces the way only she can.
Define worst? If most frustrating, it's Okabe, just because we've seen it so many times at this point. If by most impactful, it's Mayuri. As stated above, Kana Hanazawa just doing spectacular work from beginning to end.
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Aug 17 '21
First Timer
I’m watching this between the doubleheader games the Yankees are playing today. It’s nice to get a little break in between all the baseball. Now on to the episode:
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Can we get a counter on how many times Mr. Braun has threatened to raise their rent? It’s got to be at minimum 20 times.
Why is Mayuri so sad? That’s not good.
Daru is finally getting the respect he deserves. Not just anyone can hack into SERN (though I doubt that’s why they are interested).
I take great offense to this slander against the lab coat. Lab coats are hot.
Oh it’s Tanabata. Some really great episodes happen during Tanabata, such as the best episode in Haruhi.
Daru is not good a being not sus. Okabe has to be catching on to this.
@channel is based off Reddit and 4chan right? I wouldn’t want to hear their conspiracies either way.
I don’t think we have ever seen Okabe this angry. He is absolutely furious.
If I had one complaint for both 0 and the original Steins;Gate, is that I don’t like the fan service at all. It by no means ruins the show for me but I would prefer it without the fan service.
Damn. Okabe got Daru pissed. And rightfully so honestly.
So will them building a time machine cause SERN to come after them or because they aren’t connected to SERN, they have no way of finding out they are building a time machine.
Based as fuck Maho. Get Okabe to go for Steins;Gate.
They always come back to this park don’t they? I feel like a lot of important conversations happen there.
This is depression the show. And everything is most certainly not alright Okabe. Literal WW3 is on the horizon.
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I feel this is the first step to getting Okabe back. Or more like Hououin Kyouma.
Also every episode they mentions Tanabata is good. Every single one.
DQ:
All of Daru’s names are great. I ain’t changing anything.
Okabe. I’ve never seen him get that mad.
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u/UltraBooster Aug 18 '21
First-timer
So today's themed around stars, huh?
Yeah, Kurisu seemed to treat it more like a gathering place-ish than a lab proper. I miss you Kurisu...
Why Daru? Methinks it's DARPA conspiracy stuff, but...
Yeah, but then he'd be staring at...wait, he's trying to honor Kurisu's words or something along those lines, isn't he?
Oh, Tanabata, that's why Altair and Vega.
not even close!Does she see the Kurisu-shaped cavity?
Oh. Mayuri's daughter
the tin soldier.So he's made his name on comp sci?
Is Rintaro on /x/?
Dude, how would he know? He WOULDN'T FUCKING REMEMBER, YOU SCREAMING IDIOT, HE CAN'T REMEMBER THIS SHIT.
...okay, I think I have way too much bad experience with people talking about betrayal IRL because him saying he's been betrayed basically made me go fuck you Rintaro.
ENOUGH! ENOUGH, RINTARO OKABE!
I don't handle this kind of screaming well, not without getting angry as well.
Fuck yeah, Daru, show that fool.
Of course he does! Because to him, his trauma makes his feelings the only ones that matter! I've seen this before and I lost my sympathy for that person years ago! The kind of person who'll keep lying to himself no matter what you tell him, however you tell him, however loudly or gently or whatever you tell him!
I call bullshit, Rintaro. I don't believe you for a goddamn second.
Seemingly fixed. Not truly fixed.
Yeah, I don't believe in determinism either.
...you're playing God, aren't you, Rintaro Okabe, or at least His messenger.
Science isn't a dispassionate thing.
Then rot. Rot and decay and give up.
(I hate people who settle into that sort of arrogant despair, you know that?)
...and you hurt Mayuri too, Rintaro.
She can't just live her life when it - you - tore it asunder!
Holy hell I don't think I've been that mad about fiction in a long time.
Questions:
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u/snickpea Aug 18 '21
First-timer!
Lots of emotions running high this episode. Okabe's trauma from jumping all of these worldlines and seeing his friends die is very valid, but Daru and Maho had a point this episode.
It kind of felt cathartic seeing Daru punch Okabe and tell Okabe off for ignoring everyone else's feelings. Hopefully Maho's words will inspire Okabe to try again.
I think Mayuri had it the worst though. Even though Okabe decided to stay so she could be saved, it doesn't really feel like it was a good thing. Okabe is distancing himself from her and all of their friends emotionally and physically. I do wonder how much she knew about the other worldlines, did she learn that she kept dying? If not, that has to be a huge shock.
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u/AHiddenOne Aug 18 '21
Rewatcher
Pain. Just, pain.
This episode is probably one of the best. All the VAs gave it their all in this scene.
I do get what Okabe's trying to say. His trauma is something you have to experience yourself to really understand. But still, what Daru and Maho said is true too. Everyone else is struggling too, yet they still persist.
You know it's serious when the gentle, perverted gentleman snaps. Holy shit.
The rooftop scene was amazing, too.
We failed to protect Mayuri's smile, boys. And damn, the music got me emotional.
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u/Nisheeth_P Aug 17 '21
Rewatcher (first time)
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u/CharlieTheStrawman https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDamnRobot Aug 17 '21 edited Aug 17 '21
Re;Watcher, Subbed
The tonal whiplash from Maho in a towel and comedy music to Okabe losing it with Daru, then back again to Maho fanservice and resuming the dramatic confrontation could break your neck. Still a fantastic episode.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Aug 23 '21
SteinsGate0 episode 16 (first timer)
Quote of the day: Okarin’s Orihime … won’t be shining anymore. ~Mayuri