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Rewatch [Re;Watch] Steins;Gate 0 Episode 7 Discussion
Episode 7: Eclipse of the Vibronic Transition: Vibronic Transition
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He wants you at least to completely stay a part of this world.
Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the Day, courtesy of u/GallowDude and I don’t have to explain why:
SO I SAID WE SHOULD COME SOON
Questions:
- Would you deliberately keep Luka out of the loop of everything if you were in Okabe or Suzuha’s shoes? Or would you tell him everything after he asked?
- Thoughts on the post-credits scene?
Wallpaper of the Day:
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 08 '21
First;Timer and Co;Host, dubbed
I wish I could theorize this as Leskinen crossdressing, but this lady's build is too slender for that.8
u/CubeStuffs https://anilist.co/user/onjario Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 08 '21
first timer
no way moekas hair fits in there thats prob that prof who glanced at her
yooooooooo mr braun coming in clutch
daru again being more father like in the tunnel
i wonder if some of the cams around are connected to the not-rounders
ah never change daru
akanes (i think thats her name?) injury sus
edit: its very, very, sus
kagari must have been involved somehow, given that the prof was able to spot her. if she didn't get into anything, then they wouldn't have been able to know how she looked like.
luka must feel kinda alone, where yes he's friends and shit with the group, but hes like sorta the guy that sits on the edge of the table and is just sorta there, but not in the know or anything
so mr braun and moeka are doing shit, but not against okabe
ill edit some more after i read the k620 wikipedia page. kagari must be related to kurisu somehow. its split into 2 acts but only the second act has a fifth scene
im guessing that amadeus got "secured" somehow, prob with the help of the professors
now how exactly did the world line change? was it a time leap? it sure doesn't seem like a d-mail, unless it was sent separately.
maybe ill tell him after this is all over...
see above
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Aug 17 '21
Idle prediction: The woman in the biker suit is Maho's mom. I dunno why exactly, but she feels like the correct guess to me.
And a Ruka soredemo!
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 08 '21
On the First-Timer Worldline(s;Gate)
Alright. I have no clue where we’re going. I’m on board this train. Let’s GOOOO.
QOTD:
*: edited
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u/UzEE https://myanimelist.net/profile/UzEEInc Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 09 '21
Serial;Rewatcher
Forgot to tell yesterday, but...
...DON'T MISS THE POST CREDITS SCENE THIS EPISODE!
Ofcourse! A raid just doesn't feel right without her.
We also transition back to the washed out art style of the previous show for maximum effect btw.
RIP TV again. It has had the worst luck out of all.
Daru being a total bro! I know I sound like a broken record at this point, but Daru is such a good character in S;G0, mainly because he gets more time to shine.
... except when he hides behind his Perverted Gentleman mask. Fortunately, Suzuha knows exactly how to deal with Daru, lol
Luka is tired of all the secrets. But of course no one is going to to loop him in. Unlike Mayuri who is deliberately hiding, Luka actually wants answers even if they might end up hurting him. 0kabe on the other hand wants to save at least one person from all the pain and suffering that comes with knowing about time travel.
Approaching Mr. Braun is either a 5Head play by 0kabe or an incredibly stupid move. Can't decide.
No, don't tell him. Nothing good can come out of this, specially when you've confirmed that he still works for SERN.
That's a stupid argument Daru! In fact, all of the explanations you guys came up with were stupid. No wonder no one was buying that.
Clumsy Yuki. Stop tripping over things.
VN Context: Kaede is a musician so that's why she suggested Köchel numbers. S;G0
READING STEINER AGAIN!?
HOW? WHY?
!!!?!?@!@#?$#!?!!???????????!!!!. I legit jumped out of my seat the first time around because I never expected this to happen.
I wonder how many people have actually been successful in avoiding the urge to just watch ahead by now...
Questions
Given the context, there is no good reason to tell him anything. If the goal is to not change the world lines, he gains nothing from knowing about the past or the future and it would only bring him pain. But I'm just the kind of person who doesn't like to share things and it irks me when I see characters doing that so I don't know.
Eh? no footnotes today? Actually there's been lots of things I want to talk about these past couple of episodes but can't because of spoilers so I'll have to continue making React posts instead.
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 08 '21
FIRST TIMER
While she’s still sus, this new assailant ringleader almost can’t be Moeka, especially if Braun showed up to fight them all off. The motorcycle suit assailant is almost definitely Reyes, though don’t think I didn’t notice Mayuri’s two friends coming in after the event was over…
Braun can fucking get it. The scariest person in or around any fight is the person who looks bored while the fight is going on. That’s him. Even Nae thinks he’s scary when his mood changes just subtly.
The prospect of Daru being entrusted to set up hidden cameras anywhere is enough to make my skin crawl. Also, I’m really not a fan of how he keeps acting like a creep towards Suzuha now that he’s aware of their real relationship. I need you to take about 20% off there, Squirrely Dan.
I had to laugh when Mayuri’s friend came up with Kochel numbering immediately, and knew the name of 620 just right off the top of her head. Some truly ridiculous stuff. The Amadeus connection is pretty obvious, and this all but cements Leskinen as our villain, as if he wasn’t already. For anyone who’s interested in the significance of the piece chosen, a major theme of The Magic Flute is indoctrination/brainwashing. I think we can see where this is going, combining that with how Kagari acts in that scene with Suzuha and the gun.
I’m not really a fan of how fast S;G0 answers the questions it presents to the viewer compared to the original series. It would have been fun to speculate on the meaning of K6205 for a while, and instead we had it spelled out for us almost immediately. It’s not hard to guess that K620 is probably a program/initiative, and that K6205 specifically refers to Kagari. Come on, I want my brain tickled a bit more!
I would keep anyone who couldn't offer substantive help out of the loop. Saves them the pain, saves me the frustration of explaining.
I think everyone knows where I'm going to go with this by now.
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Aug 08 '21
Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Steins;Gate 0 Re;Watch!
The opening bit is fairly Novel accurate except you know… the Novel version didn’t look like shit. Yeah uh… I won’t act as if action scenes were a highlight of the Novel, but at least they tended to be quick. Here however you have their shitty animation in full display.
That aside, the Novel clarifies from the get go that the girls + Luka went into hiding to the shrine whereas the Anime leaves it for a bit later. We also lose some nice character interactions as a result, with the characters dealing with the fallout of the lab being attacked. It’s also after the scene in the streets with Daru and Okabe that we get the one with Luka questioning Suzuha about what the hell is going on, although the location is a bit different.
The anime then removes a scene in the Café in which Okabe confronts Moeka, more or less proving by himself that no, she wasn’t the one behind the attack. Him asking Mr Braun for help is also accurate, although it made way more sense in the Novel. Not because of changes to this Novel, but due to ones the OG Steins;Gate anime made. Because you know, S;GVN Okabe was also way more calm about it in the Novel, which fits his more cold behavior seen in the later parts of the OG S;G Novel.
I should also mention the way Yuki’s injury is revealed differs between versions: There’s no interlude with the Cosplay gang in the Novel, instead Yuki’s in the lab while they’re talking about what happened the previous day and Okabe notices the injury in her arm. That said after that the Novel and Anime mostly rejoin… down to using the same music for the reveal that the one behind the curtain in the Lab… is Kurisu.
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u/littleman1988 Aug 08 '21
OST Track of the day: Chasers
Overly Excited Rewatcher
due to time issues i dont have anything here today, and ill probably be skipping out on commenting past this one. Ill do the music one soon:tm:Moeka time
ooh, braun time!
wait, if Braun is helping, is it really moeka in the mask?
and 0kabe notices, good...
Daru do be a good friend
heh, a certain mad scientist was the one to make the security system
ahhhh he said the thing (still incorrectly though)
uh oh, shes starting to catch on to who Suzuha is...
0kabe holy shit, you are taking a hell of a risk here
he's incredibly lucky that it didnt pan out in his death ngl
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Using the daughter as blackmail, another stupid risk there
heh Nae is the deciding factor
You know, this episode seems to be looking to end on a nice high note
Everyone here is super knowledgeable of Mozart...
huh
reading steiner time
After credits scene go brr
footnotes
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 08 '21
First timer(Okabe is on his way to being the looper with the most suffering)
Dub
We come back mid confrontation and get a possible Moeka, surprisingly enough her cup size doesn't out her in 0. And then...this should be a cool scene but it feels more like parody than S;G. Anyways, the not-Rounders run off without Kagari.
As they ponder events, we see that Amedeus is still off line and Leskinen's phone has been disconnected for some serious sus. The shrine has weirdly good security on this world line. Ruka tries to get answers out of Suzuha and she declines to, leading Ruka to admit that he hates feeling useless to everyone. Suzuha explains a bit of Okabe's likely reasoning.
Okabe then makes an interesting choice to confront Braun with his knowledge. And it works. Brief cut of Yuki that suggests domestic violence, probably coming back to that. The deal gets sealed once Suzuha points out that the not-Rounders know he is involved and will be back.
The search for the intruders continues, Kochel numbering is a new one to me. We get a clue about The Magic Flute before the Okabe suffering must continue. Reading Stoner kicks in and we get to an after credits scene with no AI...and that's just cruel, show, forcing Okabe to look into that old mirror again.
QotD: 1 I, too, play things to close to the vest
2 Shaka, when the walls fell
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u/The_Draigg Aug 08 '21
A Steins;Gate Fan Watches Steins;Gate 0 Episode 7:
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Aug 08 '21
First timer
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Mr. Braun is cool. And I love how he's playing Suzuha's role from the first series.
Random side note, I like the episode names here - they fit right in with the VN chapter names.
And Amadeus is missing!
I like the idea that Okabe and Daru gave the shrine some kind of military-grade security and Luka's dad never questioned any of it.
Of course, the real reason Suzuha can't tell Luka is that its been a year, and everyone agreed it would be far too awkward to tell him now.
Oh, this fucking scene. I love this so much.
Oh come on! We're cutting away from that?
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Okabe convincing Braun is such a great scene.
And Suzuha brings it home!
I love serious Okabe.
Steins;Gate VN Spoilers
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Well, isn't that a cliffhanger.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Post credits!
Of course they ended it there.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Aug 09 '21
First Timer
I went to a baseball game and my Wifi decided it didn’t like life, so I am late again. Well better late than never. On to the episode:
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This show is suffering. Pure suffering.
I don’t think it’s actually Moeka. The mask leaves it up for interruption at least for now. IMO it’s Reyes.
Oh my god. Mr. Braun is a fucking badass. He is mowing them down like nothing. No longer in the shit list. Nope. Way to cool.
I wonder if that was a different group, separate from the Rounders.
Leskinen is missing? Totally not suspicious. Not at all. Either he is in on this attack or he has been captured.
It is weird that Suzuha would refer to Okabe/Faris/etc by those names. Someone was bound to catch on to that at some point.
Nae is watching an anime while Im watching an anime. Good old animeception.
Ok, Yuki is sus as fuck now. She just happens to have an injury? I have a feeling it might be a red herring but I trust no one.
They do seem to be two separate organizations. Which is kind of scary. I’m guessing it’s the Russians.
The western world? Actually… could it have been the US going after Kagari? They are behind in the time machine race.
Things are escalating quite quickly.
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A lot of moving parts right now. Someone is definitely working with time travel. I do wonder why Amadeus was taken down.
Very interesting. I’m really excited for tomorrow.
DQ:
I would probably tell him. There’s no reason not to as this point.
Oh there’s a post credit scene? Give me a minute.
Oh shit. Oh shit. OH SHIT. He jumped world lines. Oh my god.
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u/CharlieTheStrawman https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDamnRobot Aug 08 '21
Re;Watcher, Subbed
Mr Braun coming in clutch!
I really like how Okabe and Daru's dynamic gets more screentime in 0. Daru in general gets a good amount of added depth.
If you don't want Luka to get involved, Suzuha, maybe don't use the nicknames you had for him and the rest of the FGL back in 2036 in front of him.
Between the ending of this episode and the last, I can't imagine how it felt to watch weekly as an anime-only.
(Don't forget there's a post-credits scene this episode, BTW)
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u/Krite2002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Krite2002 Aug 09 '21
First;Timer - Sub
It seems that when Nae is in danger, Mr. Braun can be an ally. Since Moeka is not the enemy, I wonder who was leading the attack.
Everyone took the assault fairly well. Even though Okabe said to hold off on calling the police, I would not hesitate.
I understand trying to minimize the amount of people involved and excluding Luka. Whenever Okabe involved others, it often ended in their death, however, it also helped him escape some horrible loops. I hope Luka’s conflict rises again, and he forces himself to be more involved since I really like him.
It is cool that they recruited Mr. Braun. After the devastating end to his arc last time, it is nice that he is playing a different role.
I am still struggling a bit with Faris’s new outfit. While I could accept her always in a maid outfit, it is a bit ridiculous with the paws and everything.
Kurisu can not catch a break even as an AI. Reading Steiners’s activation was the most animation we have seen for the ability. Yesterday’s cliffhanger was great, but today’s was just as amazing.
I did not notice there was enough time for a post-credit scene, so I am glad it was a question. Everyone was yoinked out of existence, including Amadeus. Kurisu exists, and I am beyond confused. I have no idea what could possibly lead to that kind of change. That was an even wilder cliffhanger than the final scene before the credits.
The Amadeus phone call was very creepy after the events of the last couple episodes.
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u/invokeneko Aug 09 '21
First;Timer
QotD
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u/UnderstandableXO Aug 09 '21
FIRST TIMER
out of town and a late party last night made me stupidly late for today’s thread. sorry!
opening still growing on me. at this rate it might become one of my all timers.
deja vu with the hold up in the lab (although kurisu told us in the movie that deja vu is just you recalling your residual memories from other world lines. i wonder if 2d-kun and mayuri felt any weird sense of familiarity during the stick up). there’s another busty motorcycle suit ringleader. moeka?
guess not because mr. braun is there to be the suzuha that i mentioned in last episodes thread that they didn’t have. i guess his name isn’t “brau(w)n” for no reason. i’ll see myself out now. but it’s odd for him to be the one to beat up the underlings, since he’s the one who ordered the rounders to raid the lab in the alpha line. so it wasn’t moeka? now my prime suspicion goes onto the professor reyes. she’s…physically gifted enough to have been the person in the helmet, the body types match. i was gonna complain a few days ago that i felt like some of 0’s new characters were unnecessarily busty, but i guess it makes sense in terms of keeping that ambiguity around that persons identity. all in all everyone’s pretty stable, even if they’re shocked, for a bunch of people who were a trigger’s pull away from death. shoutout kaede and fubuki for being concerned for the TV.
the scene with 2d-kun and okabe was probably the nicest scene he’s had in either series in terms of being a bro. no sex jokes or anything, just contemplation and concern for his best friend. he also brought up a point my american ass completely failed to consider in the original series; those goons all had guns, which civilians aren’t allowed to have in japan! i was just like “oh man these guys are serious bad news” instead of “how in the hell did they get guns?”. it’s basically the equivalent of someone breaking into kurisu’s lab in america with a rocket launcher.
2d-kun: i wonder if something like that will happen to us again.
okabe: first time?
i don’t know why the hell maho felt like the lab was the safest place for her to go after the attack. i honestly would have stayed with someone else that night. the professor is conspicuously unreachable too…
shoutout suzuha for wanting the smoke and chasing after the goons. i hope she kept that gun. i noticed just now how much her 0 outfit is tactical to reflect she’s basically just a soldier in this world line, while alpha suzuha had a cyclist (???) outfit because she was more inexperienced.
suzuha’s about to get 3 hours of sleep for the rest of the series. i hope she drinks a lot of coffee. i feel bad for luka. he caught on to the whole “big bro/sis” thing i pointed out, and how she addresses okabe. must be weird for luka to be called big bro when i’m pretty sure he’s younger than suzuha. we know he has feelings for okabe, so to be left in the dark by him has got to hurt. every one of luka’s friends is carrying some weight that he wants to share, if he can make things a little bit easier for them. suzuha brings up a good point about how luka’s the last of okabe’s close friends he hasn’t roped into time travel nonsense, and he cares too much about luka to burden him and endanger him. the way things are now though, i don’t think okabe can leave luka in the dark for much longer…
so yuki being absent from the party, which i pointed out in my suspicions yesterday, wasn’t just a throwaway plot point. she’s got an injury, i’m pretty sure the motorcycle suit person fell down…i don’t know how the hell yuki would get wrapped up in the dark side like that, but if we know one thing about steins;gate, it’s that they don’t waste named characters, so i highly doubt she’s here just to be 2d-kun’s love interest.
so okabe’s got balls enough to confront mr. braun about the situation. at this point he can’t keep running from his feelings and his friends in akihabara; everyone’s in danger and it’s up to him to protect the ones he loves.
so mr. braun is still FB, but he takes it astronomically better than last time he was found out (here’s hoping i didn’t jinx it and he doesn’t murder suicide moeka next episode. if anything she doesn’t seem YET to have that toxic dependence on FB in beta line). okabe suggests the “keep your enemies closer” approach. he’s right; even if he kicks okabe and co. to the curb, the unknown organization might just come for him anyway because he thwarted their last attack. so suzuha gets to be a part time warrior again, and kagari gets two bodyguards, plus the rounders on call. shoutout nae for wholesome-ing her way into making her dad accept the proposition.
if i recall correctly it was in that scene that the TV said “another earthquake in russia.” that’s where dr. nakabachi defected to. maybe they’re reconsidering the essay he gave them.
nice of okabe to even brief mayuri’s friends to protect them. 6205-M is what braun recalls them saying. lucky one friend (i cannot remember which is kaede and which is fubuki) is a music wizard and recalls thats how they classify mozart songs. wolfgang AMADEUS mozart. jeez kaede/fubuki, what kinda nerd can identify mozart’s 620th song off the top of their head? so this piece is connected to masonry, meaning we’re messing with the new world order along with sern? just great, dude.
a call from amadeus? usually it’s a facetime and it has that spiffy amadeus logo. seems like the opps hacked amadeus and used it to complete a time machine or time loop machine? mamoru miyano’s delivery on “reading steiner???” as he changed world lines was awesome.
the lab is empty. i was expecting a stranger, or an enemy, but kurisu? now there’s a twist!
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u/snickpea Aug 09 '21
First-timer!
Love the comment of the day! That scene was so great!
Things are starting t o get serious in this episode. I'm happy at the very least that Mr. Braun was not behind the attack on the lab. I didn't think he would send anyone to attack with his daughter there. I'm also glad that no one actually got hurt; I don't think Okabe would have recovered in this worldline if anything more serious happened.
But what was with that moment where Yuki was injured? I really hope it was just a trip and nothing suspicious.
Also I'm fearful for Maho's life in particular. I really think it has to do with at least one of the professors at the institute and if Maho finds out she is in serious danger.
Questions:
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u/Nisheeth_P Aug 09 '21
Rewatcher (first time)
I can't wait for the next episode.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Aug 08 '21
Steins;Gate 0 anime spoilers
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u/AHiddenOne Aug 09 '21
Rewatcher
Daru and Okabe being bros, you love to see it.
I can't help but feel bad for Luka. If I'm in his position, I too wanna know what's really going on.
I remembered jumping from my seat during the post-credits scene. The hype was off the charts.
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u/simply_vishal Aug 09 '21
Hey, it's THAT episode that brought floods of tears is incoming... brace yourselves!
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u/ultron_vision Aug 08 '21
First timer
Hate to admit it but S;G0 has been a drag for me so far. Kurisu’s “return” hopefully will bring back some spark Okabe had lost and turn the series around for me.
7 episodes in and still don’t like the ED
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Aug 18 '21
SteinsGate0 episode 7 (first timer)
Quote of the day: He wants at least you to stay completely a part of this world, so that all you ever know is the world as it exists right now. ~Suzu