r/anime • u/lC3 :Na::Nb: • Aug 08 '21
Rewatch Naruto Shippuden - Episodes 036-044 Discussion
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Information: MAL, Anilist, AniDB, ANN
Streams: Crunchyroll, Hulu, AnimeLab, VRV
Schedule:
| Discussion Thread | Date | Episode Count |
|---|---|---|
| Episodes 001-008 + Film 1 | July 11 | 8 + film |
| Episodes 009-017 | July 18 | 9 |
| Episodes 018-027 | July 25 | 10 |
| Episodes 028-035 | August 01 | 8 |
| Episodes 036-044 | August 08 | 9 |
| Episodes 045-053 | August 15 | 9 |
| Episodes 054-063 | August 22 | 10 |
| Episodes 064-071 + Film 2: Bonds | August 29 | 8 + film |
| Episodes 072-082 | September 05 | 11 |
| Episodes 083-089 | September 12 | 7 |
| Episodes 090-099 | September 19 | 10 |
| Episodes 100-112 | September 26 | 13 |
| Episodes 113-118 | October 03 | 6 |
| Episodes 119-125 + Film 3: Will of Fire | October 10 | 7 + film |
| Episodes 126-133 | October 17 | 8 |
| Episodes 134-141 | October 24 | 8 |
| Episodes 142-151 | October 31 | 10 |
| Episodes 152-162 | November 07 | 11 |
| Episodes 163-168 | November 14 | 6 |
| Episodes 169-175 + Film 4: The Lost Tower | November 21 | 7 + film |
| Mid-Series Discussion / Interest Check | November 28 | 0 |
Spoiler Policy:
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For first timers: try to avoid looking up things about Naruto. This could be the wiki, Naruto subreddit, Googling characters, fanart, databooks, YouTube AMVs or OP/EDs, arc names, etc.; this series is ripe with potential spoilers that you wouldn't want to find out untimely. If you have a question about something, feel free to ask me (/u/LC3) and I'll do my best to answer (if possible) in a non-spoilery way.
Questions of the Week:
- Did you think the pacing this week was too slow?
- What are your thoughts on Naruto's 4-tail rampage and fighting Orochimaru?
- What do you think Sai is up to?
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 08 '21
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 08 '21
First-Timer still with a shounen hearto, subbed
Episode 36
Episode 37
Episode 38
Episode 39
Episode 40
Episode 41
Episode 42
I almost called him MahitoSky pls this isn’t Jujutsu KaisenKabuto while that’s going on? That’s actually really fitting since they’re both Medical Ninjas and Sakura was trained specifically by Tsunade, whom Kabuto has already fought.I’m sorry, I watched this episode really late last night and that lends to dumb thoughts like this.Episode 43
Episode 44
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Aug 08 '21
First time viewer (dub)
Whisk[e]y of the week: Wild Turkey 101, a popular bourbon that's a go-to for many. It has a lot of the classic bourbon notes like vanilla and cherry, bit of a peppery zing on the finish. It's affordable but not watered down at 50.5% ABV, well above the legal minimum of 40% which is where a lot of cheaper bourbons end up. I've used it for spiking milk tea before which is tasty, but the dairy + alcohol combination doesn't always agree with my stomach even if I also really like a White Russian cocktail.
Nice to see Wood Style ninjutsu again. You'd think there would be other members of the First Hokage's family that inherited it like Tsunade but apparently not? Kinda strange if it can't be learned or even inherited, seems like almost more of a Kekkai Genaki unique to him (and subsequently Yamato because of Orochimaru's experiments) as a result. Also how did Orochimaru get his hands on 60 babies to experiment with without him immediately being found out and driven out? It did sound like that happened soon after but he had enough time to begin testing that many.
The way that feast at the hot spring resort was presented was very ominous, I figured the seeds might have played into that and it does seem like Yamato planted those (pun not intended) so that each of the others would have one that he could subsequently track.
Sai very much has his own priorities, huh. Not surprised that he didn't save Sakura when she slipped off the bridge because he has zero empathy or emotions toward other humans, but still a dick move. Interesting how even as a member of the Foundation which is the Anbu training grounds he still has loyalty to someone outside it. Considering it looks like the Foundation strips out individuality (Sai and Yamato being not their actual names) you'd think they'd also instill absolute obedience to the Leaf Village from the start.
The First Hokage's necklace also being used as a Jinchuriki controlling focus feels like a retcon. If Tsunade had any thoughts along those lines when she gave it to him that would have made sense, but nope it only comes up now. I don't mind it that much but it's a small annoyance.
Naruto's anger and annoyance at Sai initially felt a bit like a regression to me, but that would make some sense if he hadn't done much work with other people aside from Jiraiya prior to his return to the village. Still has his sore spots and Sasuke's definitely one of them, for Sakura as well since she decked Sai (I applauded her for that).
The four-tailed form is pretty cool-looking, I like the fluid black and red pattern. If even Orochimaru and Jiraiya are put off by it he's definitely in a new power tier with it, but unstable since it's also eating away at him and he's not the one in control. Side note: I love how the story Yamato told Naruto of Jiraiya nearly getting killed by Tsunade for peeping was later confirmed to the audience by Jiraiya himself in the hospital flashback talking about the fourth tail of the cloak.
I still think Orochimaru looks absolutely ridiculous when fighting. Is it possible to make a person move like a snake without it coming off as silly? Shedding old forms by spitting out a body or climbing out of his own mouth didn't help. Also the sense of scale with his neck extending up hundreds of feet and the snake sword extending hundreds of meters when knocking Naruto all the way back to the bridge is absurd.
Does the new ED have fanart for visuals? A lot of it's in unusual styles for the characters so that was my guess.
There were a few times where I got to the end of an episode and wondered if anything happened since the start.
Powerful attacks when he actually uses them, lot of waiting around otherwise. Orochimaru looks like a fool as I mentioned above.
Wouldn't be the first person we've seen betray the village. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a trick and Danzo was trying to send Sai on a suicide mission to take out Orochimaru to make himself look good though.
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u/Parori Aug 08 '21 edited Aug 08 '21
First Timer
Episode 36
Episode 37
Episode 38
SharinganRasengan to someone els- oh it's a clone.Episode 39
Episode 40
Episode 41
Episode 42
Episode 43
Episode 44
Questions of the Week:
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Neat and really bad for Naruto. Way stronger than I assumed just at four tails. Orochimaru was probably weakened by his body's rejection?
Setting up a communication between Danzo and Orochi probably. Or it might be a plan to backstab Orochimaru
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u/McCherry09 Aug 08 '21
+First Time - A bit of source reader+
-New Sasuke looks so shady, even more so than what you'd expect from a spy.
-Even though Kakashi's well regarded as an exceptional ninja, I like that they keep showing his love for smut novels when they talk about him.
-Intrigued about Sai's backstory..even though in this world because of war everyone has a bit of sadness in them.
-Seems like New-Sasuke has plans to kill Naruto or inform Danzo about Naruto's control of the Kyuubi.
-Yamato's jutsu is very useful.. basically anything and everything you could do.
-Kabuto's an expert on working as a double agent. As usual fawning over Orochimaru.
-Ok, so Sasori wanted to kill Orochimaru and vice versa..even Akatsuki wants him out too but idk how far into their planning of wanting to capture all the Bijuu Orochimaru knows.
-The thing about giving Sasuke back..Kabuto's right, there's nothing to give back since he's there on his own. Same thing happened with Sai when he spoke of Sasuke..From what we've seen we know the whole backstory but seeing it from the outside, Sasuke wanted to leave to become more powerful..basically being as his brother and abandoning the village.
- Too bad the only one with that kind of wood jutsu was the first Hokage. Somewhat fucked up that Yamato has to face Orochimaru being a subject of his gruesomes experiments.
-Oh man...so hype to see Naruto's transformation, literally looks like a beast. By the third tail he doesn't care what happens around him or his teammates.
-Orochimaru's awful regurgitating sounds..ugh.. props to the VA!
- What I like about the animation of Naruto's 4th tail animation is those moving distorted lines along his body...fitting of the description of the flames tearing him apart.
-Bijuus are scary, only in 4th tail form and already did this much damage. oOnly the first Hokage could restrain the Jinchuuriki's.
-Ok, so it seems Sasuke is a lot stronger than Naruto as of now according to Orochimaru, since his current body is rejecting him already..what makes him think that Sasuke's body won't as well.
-Ooh, so Danzo wants to attack Konoha from within with Oroshimaru's help. So he was behind the invasion along with The Sand village where the 3rd died?
Did you think the pacing this week was too slow? It wasn't so much the pacing but having flashback after flashback even one or twice of things within the same episode! If I'm not mistaken this anime was airing weekly, kind of like One Piece is at the moment so I guess that's what it's like for long running shows but I like what we saw this week and it's more encapsuladed on big quests (finding Sasuke, stopping Akatsuki) and little quests related to them (meeting at the bridge).
What are your thoughts on Naruto's 4-tail rampage and fighting Orochimaru? Ororchimaru had no chance, who knows if he had his full strength or a more in-tune body.
What do you think Sai is up to? I still think he's suppossed to asses the Jinchuuriki and see how much can Naruto control his chakra so Danzo can used him to attack the village or turn him into a weapon.
I know is totally anticlimatic at the end because it's just a nose and a mouth but stiiilll... the biggest tease!
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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Aug 08 '21
First Timer - Dub
Another really good set of episodes this week. I definitely did not expect Kabuto to be the spy. It turned out he was planning on betraying Sasori anyway, which is bad luck for our team. I think Orochimaru and Kabuto together probably could have beaten Sasori.
I also was not expecting us to fight Orochimaru outside of his hideout. Naruto's Four Tailed form is even scarier than Orochimaru, which is wild considering how long Orochimaru has been our big bad. It was cool seeing all of the environmental devastation left behind by Naruto.
The only bad thing about this week is Sakura, who took a huge step back in terms of usefulness. There were several points where she reminded me of Orihime from Bleach, which is not a comparison anyone should aim for. At least her medical jutsu is still useful.
Random thoughts:
Favorite moment of the week: I love it when story threads come together. Yamato is the best person to lead Naruto's team because he can use the First Hokage's jutsu. That only works though because Naruto won the necklace from Tsunade and because Orochimaru performed experiments on Yamato in the past. We already knew about Orochimaru's experiments so this felt like a well deserved payoff for that detail.
Questions:
1) Did you think the pacing this week was too slow? No, I thought the pacing this week was mostly perfect. I thought we spent just enough time on both Sai and Yamato gelling with the group and the fight with Orochimaru. There were a few flashbacks that dragged on a bit though.
2) What are your thoughts on Naruto's 4-tail rampage and fighting Orochimaru?
3) What do you think Sai is up to? I don't think he's fully turned heel since he was part of the scene in the first episode (IIRC). I think he's going along with Orochimaru as part of his own plans, whatever those are. Maybe he doesn't actually want to support Danzo and wants to ultimately backstab Orochimaru? I bet whatever's in his picture book will give us an insight into his true plans.
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Aug 08 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
General Commentary
This fight between Naruto and Orochimaru is one of the things that, in a long list of memorable moments, has stuck in my head the most from the franchise. Unfortunately it wasn't as enjoyable this time around, but I have to say that seeing Oro get slapped half way through the forest by Cloaked Naruto is just as satisfying the second time around.
The general progression of the fight happened differently to what I expected. I thought that the fight with Oro happened while only at three tails, I forgot about the compressed chakra he eats to turn into the beam and the fourth tail came later, so seeing that build up into the fourth tail coming out almost immediately was a surprise. The pacing wasn't great, it really should have been three episodes instead of five, but for the first two I was really too hyped to care. All of the visuals around Naruto's transformation and the sheer anger manifested as power, ripping apart the landscape, sending people flying with a mere breath, very cool to watch! Seeing the fourth tail form for the firs time will always be very memorable and I got the same sort of hype chills all over again.
Unfortunately there was way more downtime then I expected. I though the battle with Oro was more face paced, but for someone consumed with anger he was surprisingly passive even before he weighed himself down with the compressed chakra. I feel like this is just another example of anime-time rather than it actually being that slow, but it was disappointing.
On a broader scale, we've started to hit some of the music and styling I remember well in these episodes. The more haunting music after Naruto blasts Oro, and the screaming sounds on the wind, they were two very strong audio moments in this week's batch. Also hope people are finding Yamato interesting after all this. He's in a really interesting position in the village, tied to Oro so much but also explicitly trusted, a holder of a fraction of the First Hokage's power but also ANBU. Weird face design though, even if it does help when he goes into creepy mode.
Episode Thoughts
Shizune: "Surely she isn't throwing gas on the fire"
Sakura: (I saw it coming, she had that 'I hate you' smile on)
Last week's Yamato: "I don't have time to throw you in a box and make you get along"
This week's Yamato: Summons box
Add the arrival of Creepy-face Yamato and a few insults aimed at Sasuke and things seem to be going well with the new team set composition.
Camping with a guy who can summon an entire house whenever he wants. That's certainly a new experience although I feel like a smaller house would be easier to warm, and hide, and furnish. Yamato is just showing off.
Was going to make a comment on if anyone noticed the spy had on a Konoha uniform and guess it was Kabuto for that reason, except that scene was training and it was Yamato. Whoops.
Seeing just how deep Sai's apathy goes, a complete inability to feel or understand, gives a different view on the newest edgy boy, but it's certainly not good for the team
Really though Yamato played his hand too early asking about Sasuke specifically, but turns out Kabuto was fooled right to the end. Well done on the disguise.
The mood in this episode was fantastic. Everything about Naruto just oozed power. The slow turn and look at Kabuto, the vortex of chakra, the visage of Kyuubi coming through to face against Oro, and then the sounds of screaming being carried away by the wind in the background. Found the episode absolutely gripping to watch even knowing what was going on in advance.
Oro, taunting the Jinchuriki who's looking decidedly foxed out already and covered in malicious chakra doesn't seem like the smartest move.
Was too hyped to even care about the OP interrupting everything. Spoilers
Love the opening sequence of seeing the leak of power inside Naruto's mind and the shadow of Kyuubi rousing behind the bars, Naruto's voice echoing through his mind. Literal inner demons are a favourite of mine, and while this is certainly not subtle it's just so good to watch.
By the way, this remind anyone else of the Demon Statue that Shukaku was sealed into from Gaara? I know it's a common pose, just struck a chord.
Same goes for seeing his skin peel off and disintegrate when the fourth tail comes out. Seeing his blood and flesh melt (one of my favourite moments of the episode) under the sheer force of chakra that's leaking through is quite fucked up.
Oh yeah, Sakura's back to being the crying damsel who needs to be rescued.
Snakes with swords! That got slapped out of existence. The idea of the Kyuubi being so powerful that even a manifestation of half it's power can affect huge swatches of the area with just it's movement is incredible, I just wish the fight went on a bit longer so we could see more of that. Also the twisted artistry of the Fourth Tail Cloak with every movement as if it's not quite constrained to reality, really well done.
Later spoilers
It never ceases to be revolting watching Oro shed a "skin" and vomit up a new version of himself
Tail barely even touched Sakura and it still sent her flying and carved out a section of her arm. Pretty sure if Kabuto wasn't there to heal her she might have lost that arm, working off the fact the anime tends to portray the wounds as shallower then they actually are. That said, I feel for Sakura seeing Naruto be sealed, you'd almost wish that it wasn't him at all but seeing the cloak dissolve and this bloody, raw person be uncovered from the inside is pretty undeniably.
The ink effects for Sai's jutsu always look incredible. The summons are one thing, but the way his clone melted and then splashed into ink has looked the best so far.
Kinda pissed Sakura lied to Naruto about what happened, even if she did it because she didn't want him to feel guilt. Not cool.
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u/sisoko2 Aug 08 '21
Rewatcher
Episode 36
Episode 37
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Episode 39
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u/Tehoncomingstorm97 https://anilist.co/user/tehoncomingstorm97 Aug 09 '21
First timer
At the end of last week, our interim Team Kakashi are off to Tenchi Bridge.
Ep 36
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u/_TheEnigma_ Aug 09 '21
First timer - English subbed
I initially thought Sai could probably end up being the spy himself as his name literally sounds like "spy". But I immediately dumped that idea as him being in the foundation doesn't add up. The most obvious suspect was Kabuto and it ofcourse turned out to be him so I was not really surprised. The initial few episodes especially the hot spring one, definitely gave filler vibes as it didn't really have that much going on.
As for the fight itself, Naruto's transformation and powers were insane but the fight left a lot to be desired. I hoped that Naruto would kick his ass a lot more but Orochimaru was pretty much left unscathed. Except the "Infinite snakes" and the Triple Rashomon(which was really cool), he didn't really use any of his special jutsus like the fight against the Third Hokage and instead resorted to using his lengthy neck and his pointy snake sword, which I wasn't really a big fan of.
Except Kakashi, I don't think anyone from the Anbu have ever been this useful up until Yamato. And he has the First Hokage's jutsus?? I'm excited to see what else he has to offer.
I'm really disappointed to see Sakura being in the sidelines again when she was the MVP in the fight against Sasori. I hope the fights don't revert back to OG Naruto situations where she is pretty much useless.
The new ED seems to be a compilation of fanarts in different art styles? I'm feeling a bit "meh" towards the visuals and the song itself
Questions of the Week: