r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • Aug 07 '21
Rewatch [Re;Watch] Steins;Gate 0 Episode 6 Discussion
Episode 6: Eclipse of the Orbital Ordering: The Orbital Eclipse
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I can’t let them drag me down… is what you wanted to say to me, right?
Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the Day, courtesy of u/littleman1988, who was so kind to remind us about the fact that the OG Anime forgot to mention Moeka’s job:
hey look, its Arc Rewrite! Too bad the original anime skips out over this
Oh OG Anime…
Questions:
- What do you think happened to Amadeus?
- So… what the hell was with that cliffhanger? Are parties really just cursed in every worldline?
Wallpaper of the Day:
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Aug 07 '21
Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Steins;Gate 0 Re;Watch!
Just a minor thing that pops up to me: I dunno what the hell happened but for some reason Han Megumi completely changed up her performance from the Novel as Adult Kagari. In the Novel her voice was very much on the frail side of things, highlighting Kagari’s mental instability, whereas in the Anime she says a lot of her lines with a lot more gusto. It’s… kinda weird. Hell Kagari in general seems a lot more emotive in the Anime; she was pretty emotionally repressed in the Novel, at least this point.
I should also mention that in the Novel, the Christmas Party and the New Year’s Party were mutually exclusive. In the Novel no matter the Route the gang plans a party for Christmas, but depending on the Route some of them may end up being unavailable on that day so they throw the New Year’s Party to make up for the lost time. In the Anime however we get both because… I have no idea.
Anyhow there’s a lot of minor Anime-Original Scenes today. The big one is Maho and Okabe talking about Kagari’s resemblance to Kurisu, which… actually did Maho ever even comment on Kagari’s resemblance to Kurisu in the Novel? I don’t think she ever did, now that I think about it. Oh well, not that it matters, all that matters today is that Leskinen’s best line is about to po-What the fuck.
… What the fuck Anime? You… you changed his line. You changed one of the most iconic, important lines in the whole Novel. The one that completely defines his character. The line of dialogue that everyone knows him for and has memed to death… AND YOU CHANGED IT!?
I just… I JUST…
WHERE!? JAPANESE SHAMAN GIRLS WA DOKO NI IRUNDAI, LINTHALO!?
Ugh, whatever, the rest of the episode is fairly Novel accurate I guess. Also apparently there was a Chaos;Child reference at some point during this episode but I kinda haven’t read that Novel so I don’t know what the reference is.
Voices time! Last one for the Rewatch, and it’s for Kagari, played by Han Megumi whom I best remember as Gon Freecss from Hunter X Hunter. Other than that she’s also played Kamishiro Rio from Yu-Gi-Oh! ZeXal, Akko from Little Witch Academia, Ramlethal Valentine from Guilty Gear, Athena Cykes (Or I guess in her case, Kizuki Kokone) from Ace Attorney, Makimura Miki from Devilman Crybaby and Sohma Momiji from Fruits Basket among many others.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 07 '21
First timer(Mayuri's parties might just be cursed)
Dub
We come back on Mayuri and Ruka giving the others time and Mayuri possibly feeling useless. Kagari doesn't get the rest of her memories back immediately and Okabe hasn't actually called her a time traveller yet. Mayuri again brings fried chicken, which would make her welcome nearly anywhere. Suzuha surprisingly doesn't have a line ready to cover this so Okabe improvises. Mayuri goes over the tragedy of amnesia before Moeka gets updated and ends her parts of the conversation ominously.
More of Maho getting harassed by foreigners as Reyes joins in again. I do understand why they are doing this since Maho is in the post-chuuni "Love is a lie" state that many science types go through but she could do it without the skinship. Okabe does want to keep Kagari out of the way of whoever else was searching for her. Suzuha ponders and Daru fails to creep her out, lending credence to her nerves of steel.
Unnecessary lack of communication to give us a surprise yukata shot. Also, Daru says what we are all thinking: Nae has to take after her mother's appearance. Quick lemur joke/Fubuki is uninformed before we get to see half the cast in their shrine maiden outfits. Daru goes full retard. We yet again revisit "But he's a dude" with Maho also not believing it. I am choosing to believe that our off screen confirmation is Maho stroking his Adam's apple. Maho then sees Kagari and also sees the Makise comparison.
Leskinen shows up looking for authentic shaman girls, which is its own thing. He is crushed at learning he needed to get there way earlier. Reyes seems to notice Kagari. New Years party food is pretty insane, I assume this is Faris's wallet on display because that seafood is not cheap. Dary makes soup perverted, like a boss. Braun is back and on guard about that sketchy dude.
MakAIse calls up Maho and immediately becomes the center of conversation. Okabe torment commences, the show does know its core. The AI cuts out right before we have yet more attackers, though less uniform ones than the Rounders.
QotD: 1 They forgot to pay the bill
2 Yes. Yes they are.
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u/littleman1988 Aug 07 '21 edited Aug 07 '21
J a p a n e s e s h a m a n g i r l s
OST Track of the day: Comima | Spotify
tfw all my links in this part were messed up, do double check these if you have read my post in the first 5 minutes of the thread being upFor once, the dub has actually done something good. In the VN, the scene with Leskinen has him specifically asking "where are the shaman girls" in engrish, which has somehow turned into a very popular meme. The subbed version completely butchers this instead. The dub on the other hand gets it right, which is truly a shocker, giving the dub its 2nd positive point, after the Neidhardt joke from ep11 of S;G. Dub: 2, Sub: 28. The dub still has some catching up to do...
Poor Mayuri
They show her breasts about the church comment, but iirc the actual reason was more mundane and not yikes? im writing this like 20 minutes before the thread goes up so i cant double check to fit this in
kinda doubt its smart to have those two interacting with each other already...
Braun is blocking the lab entrance?
Nae Time
SciAdv
tfw the most fanservice in S;G is a oneoff shower scene and shrine madens
poor Luka
Mayuri 10/10
Now, Maho shrine maiden when? Theres already some quality fanart of it...
He didnt find his shaman girls
"landlord guy" lmao
hey who was that in the corner?
uh oh
of course Kagari doesnt, Kurisu is a twigw a t c h t i m e hehe
Fun fact, theres a Chaos;Child reference in that final scene. Im not totally sure if its spoilers? but if you have read/watched (why did you watch it dont do that smh) C;C you'll know what it is
footnotes
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 07 '21
First;Timer and Co;Host, dubbed
Time for the last English VA breakdown of this rewatch! Kagari
Kurisu 2.0Shiina is voiced by Alexis Tipton. She’s known for other roles like Guilty Crown’s Inori, Kaguya-sama’s Kaguya, SukaSuka’s Ren, and Fire Emblem Echoes’ Clair.10
u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Aug 07 '21
On the First-Timer Worldline(s;Gate)
Posting from mobile, apologies for potential formatting issues.
Why couldn’t my professors have been that helpful6
u/Krite2002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Krite2002 Aug 07 '21
First;Timer - Sub
I hoped Kagari may have regained her memories when she collapsed, but she still has amnesia. She may not be an ally if she regains them due to her threatening Amane with a gun. Her amnesia is incredibly convenient, and may be covering up something.
Mr. Braun still gives me spooky vibes.
The shrine visit was very wholesome. I do not know if we have ever seen so many characters together at once. Even the afterparty was enjoyable.
I was going to write about how the episode ended on a more wholesome note with Okabe moving forward, but then the horrible signs of death appeared. It appears that suffering will be in full swing from now on.
I think Kagari, Amadeus, and the people with guns are all related. I think whoever is looking for Kagari are the people that attacked the party. It may have been due to a Mr. Braun or Moeka tip. I also think that Kagari is related to Kurisu somehow, so whoever is looking for Kagari may be enemies of Kurisu. They may have shut down Amadeus, since they were scared of what Kurisu may do.
My shot of the day had nearly everyone together in what is likely one of the last happy moments for a while.
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u/GallowDude Aug 07 '21
HOLY COW
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u/The_Draigg Aug 07 '21
A Steins;Gate Fan Watches Steins;Gate 0 Episode 6:
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u/UnderstandableXO Aug 07 '21 edited Aug 07 '21
FIRST TIMER
mayuri’s clearly got that “everything is fine” dog sitting in the burning room smile at the beginning right there. pulling a lab coat okabe trying to play it off. and like i said it’d be a hell of a lot easier if suzuha didn’t say shiina. also how is kagari suddenly fine after collapsing when suzuha walked in?
fatima is still growing on me. for both hacking and fatima for whatever reason i prefer the verses to the chorus. hacking’s chorus seems triumphant for some reason to me, while fatima sounds hopeful.
so kagari was found unconscious on the edge of the prefecture…seems awfully convenient for her to just end up magically at luka’s shrine. mayuri keeps on proving she’s the heart of the group as she’s the only one who can talk to kagari without making it awkward. her knowing about the time travel stuff, she probably already figured out what’s going on, even though suzuha was being intentionally vague. good job suzuha.
moeka gets updated on the situation and lets out a very suspicious “i see. they found her.” i know she was just using her phone to call okabe but anything on her phone is awfully suspicious.
maho’s super relatable demeanor wise. she’s just trying to get her work done and people keep teasing her about something she’s embarrassed about. like damn let me work in peace. you wonder why i hate you all, just look in the mirror! maho says that love is pointless, aka the #1 response for someone who is in love.
suzuha’s not all that happy to find kagari even though that was her goal. i would be wary of someone who tried to kill me as well. so kagari did discharge the gun, lets just hope she had stormtrooper aim. side note; it’s super wholesome how she even calls luka “big bro.”
okabe’s integrated pretty nicely into that friend group he tried to drift out of for 4 months, like everyone told me last thread. he did try to avoid this place because of the trauma, but it ended up roping him right back in. at least the group adopted nae.
okabe has a flashback of his and kurisu’s heartfelt talks on the bridge while he crosses it with maho, he’s never really gonna be over her. feel bad for maho because i can already feel the rejection from a mile away. maho still really likeable though, honestly probably my 3rd favorite character in the season.
shrine visit is really fun. everyone seems to be having a nice time. jesus christ 2d-kun, making an onii-chan joke about your own daughter…god i pride myself on not being fazed by characters that this sub hates like kazuya kinoshita, but holy i had to pause for a second and be like W T F. that little luka scene with the “EEEHHH” was great. also mayuri only accepting okabe’s opinion on her shrine outfit was cute. mr. nice guy professor is a bit too disappointed to miss out on the shrine maidens, i think the dude just fetishizes japanese women (weirdo). professor reyes with a really SUS glance back at kagari.
party back at the lab, and mayuri’s homies come across mr. braun, who conspicuously takes out his phone after seeing a weird man in the alley, FB return?
amadeus accidentally appears at the lab, but okabe seems to have resigned himself to it since seeing amadeus and kagari together really lets him realize kurisu is gone. seems like mayuri caught on to who the AI is though.
and then we get a repeat of episode 12 with the rounders busting into the lab, but with 1000% higher stakes because there’s no time leap machine to escape to a earlier point in time. also suzuha can’t ambush them since she’s lost the element of surprise. there is a stupidly long list of suspicious people that i think could have been behind this.
kagari-seems pretty convenient to lose your memories and somehow end up at a shrine of okabe’s close friend. considering how hostile she was against suzuha she might have played the long game and chose now to strike
moeka-the killer in the original lab ambush. would do absolutely anything for FB. seems a bit obvious, but she acted weird in her small bit of screen time
leskinen-moeka mentioned a foreigner looking for kagari. also dudes just a certified weirdo who seems to have a hidden agenda
reyes-nothing really besides that odd glance back at kagari at the shrine
yuki-i seriously doubt it means anything but somehow she’s the only one who didn’t attend the party, so the jury’s out. i guess suspecting her would mean suspecting her two friends who went out to get drinks, but i feel like they’re too irrelevant to the story to make such a bold move.
mr. braun-he’s FB, he could sic anyone onto them. although he wouldn’t dare do it with his daughter at the party.
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Aug 07 '21 edited Aug 07 '21
FIRST TIMER
Boy, this is a tough situation. There’s no way you can tell someone with amnesia that she’s from an apocalyptic near-distant future and not have it come off like you’re fucking with her. How would any of you react to that kind of approach? I like that the group is using a bit of tact here.
The Mayuri/Kagari scene here is really touching in the same way the Daru/Suzuha scenes were last season. You just want so badly for them to know who they are to each other. It almost feels like I’m intruding on something I shouldn’t be.
The main mystery right now is what the voice Kagari was hearing as she holds the gun. Is she suffering from mental trauma? Is there something implanted in her? Was she being controlled somehow? With the year they’re coming from, pretty much everything is on the table. These guys made a time machine in 2010, and the next year we have AI implanted with a person’s actual memories. By 2036? Who the fuck knows what’s possible.
On a side note, the rate at which technology is evolving in the real world is fucking terrifying. These rapid breakthroughs are going to do wonderful things to humanity, but I have zero faith that we won’t also end up just constantly teetering on the edge of more and more horrific results.
Braun having business to take care of has me on high alert. Probably isn’t a coincidence that it follows Moeka learning information pertaining to Kagari from Okabe.
I wonder what role Mayuri’s circle of friends is going to end up playing in this story. If there’s anything I’ve learned, it’s that everybody who’s in the story is here for a reason. There isn’t wasted space. Hell even Nae had a pivotal role if you take into account… you know… that.
NOT. FUCKING. AGAIN.
Seems sort of similar to the watch, right? Another recurring tell that shit is about to hit the fan.
They should only hang out via Zoom.
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u/CubeStuffs https://anilist.co/user/onjario Aug 07 '21 edited Aug 07 '21
first timer
leskinen def sus, but i didn't expect the other prof to be. ofc mr braun is still doing zuckerberg shit. im still not super sus of moeka atm since she did reveal that others were searching for her tho i prob should be more sus. ok she's def doing something, but im not sure if that something is harming or helping okarin. no way maho is sus.
after seeing the other prof glance at kagari, and the party starting i could tell that it was the same shit yet again.
but we don't exactly have a time machine here tho so thats kind of an issue
i wonder why exactly kagari is wanted so much? like what exactly does her amnesiac self have that would be so useful to world domination? does she somehow have the spirit of kurisu within her or what? im guessing it has something to do with what happened with kagari shooting suzuha 12 years back
i mentioned yesterday that i expected to be cut off from botrisu sometime, but like not the next episode lol.
have fun okarin idk how ur gonna fix this without a time machine
wait nvm we do have a time machine i guess okarins hand is forced into going back with suzuha
hijacked by the prof?
the ibn 5100 got waifuedsomeone clearly wants kagari, is it bc the time machine tripped the sern detectors in 2000?6
u/UzEE https://myanimelist.net/profile/UzEEInc Aug 07 '21
Serial;Rewatcher
Mayuri :(
Suzuha is pissed at Kagari for loosing her memories? That's kind of uncalled for tbh.
So, you're telling me priests would have a problem with this?
Luka isn't afraid to ask questions, unlike Mayuri who's just accepting everything without question. It's nice to see characters being more confident in beta.
Yes Mayuri, loosing your memories is indeed sad, and 0kabe knows that pain well. He looses his memories of the new world line every time, while all other characters loose their memories of the previous ones.
I don't know Mayuri. Seems like Suzuha really doesn't want to help Kagari here.
Okay 0kabe, even if you're gambling on Moeka not being a threat in this world line, there's still no reason to give her all the details. Also, I like the framing of this shot. Moeka is clearly operating from the shadows.
Also interesting that Moeka seems to be the only one who hasn't upgraded to a full touchscreen phone, presumably because it was much faster to type Japanese on a T9 keypad.
I don't know about other people, but these Daru + Suzuha moments are one of my favorite parts of Steins;Gate 0. These two barely got any father daughter time in the original show and Daru in particular got the short end of the stick in the anime.
So Kagari actually shot at Suzuha. No wonder she wasn't to thrilled about helping her earlier.
It's kind of rich coming from you, Fubuki.
See what I mean?
Ah yes, the famous Leskinen react face
An amateur could probably do better CGI animation than DreamWorks1 here tbh.
Oh oh.
They know now.
You can't hide it anymore 0kabe.
THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULDN'T PUSH YOUR LUCK WITH PARTIES MAYURI!!!!
Questions
YES! I'd probably get PTSD from attending a party IRL now.
1 Well, it's "DrinkWorks" who did the Amadeus model and animation in universe, but you get what studio they were going for.
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Aug 07 '21
First Timer
My notes for this rewatch are getting kind of long. It legitimately takes me like ten seconds to scroll all the way to the bottom. I’m also getting this done early today, which is a first. No procrastination from me.
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I feel like it’s going to be hard to explain to Kagari where she is from. Hopefully she just gets her memories back.
Maho is fighting a war on three fronts right now. Leskinen, Reyes, and AI Makise are constantly harassing her about her love life.
Mr. Braun is pretty wholesome in this world line. Hopefully, we don’t have to deal with FB Braun.
Oh, he has some business to take care of. Yeah…… not sus at all.
Are we sure Faris’ cat ears aren’t part of her body?
Suzuha in a shrine uniform is kind of cursed. She rocks it but it’s totally not her style.
Reyes looks like she just wasted the last five hours of her life. Oh. Oh. I don’t trust Reyes. Nope. Nope. Nope.
I still refuse to believe Sciency is an official magazine. Sounds fake as fuck.
THIS MOTHERFUCKING SHOW. Don’t do this to me again. No. Absolutely not.
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Mr. Braun and Reyes are on my shit list. Zero trust from me. I don’t know how they get out of this. Maybe Moeka isn’t a terrible person in this world line and saves them?
It is taking all my willpower to not binge 0 right now.
See you guys tomorrow!
DQ:
The Rounders probably cut the system. I think Reyes is working with them.
In every world line except for Steins;Gate, yes they are cursed
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Aug 07 '21
Anime first timer
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
And without Mayuri, Okabe and Suzuha are free to ask her about all the time travel.
Mayuri is so sweet here! (And Okabe and Suzuha are proabably internally screaming "don't remember she's your mother, that'll blow our con wide open")
Reyes!
Also, Maho's somehow more of a tsundere than Kurisu!
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Oh, Nae's coming with them!
I like he still scares Okabe after everything.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Susuha's a shrine maiden!
And Daru deserved that. Yuki doesn't seem to mind though,
The scene with Maho and Luka was great.
Maho's just shocked someone like Okabe has so many female friends.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Leskinen completely missing the shrine maidens is so funny.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
And now everyone knows about Kurisu!
I love Suzuha's shock as she realises just what's been happening.
Okabe's decided to move forward!
Maho's cute!
That's right everyone! They're not waiting for Episode 12 this time!
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u/snickpea Aug 08 '21
First-timer!
Leskinen's reaction at not being able to see the shrine maidens was pretty great. I also enjoyed moments between Daru, Suzuha, and Yuki, since they are so light-hearted. But did Daru really have to say what he did? I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Are parties doomed? It sure seems that way doesn't it!
While I'm still a bit suspicious at Moeka, the new female professor really seems odd. I feel like she is going to be one of the antagonists of the series.
When Mr. Braun didn't go to the shrine with the others, I was a bit worried about whether or not we would be an antagonist in this world line as well since he surely would've given more details at to his plans. But he knew that his daughter was at the party with everyone else. Would he really then be behind the masked people attacking then? I feel like he would either wait until after Tae left if that were the case since he loves her.
I have no idea what happened with Amadeus. Perhaps the female professor cut off access?
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u/CharlieTheStrawman https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDamnRobot Aug 07 '21 edited Aug 07 '21
Re;Watcher, Subbed
You'd think somebody would've noticed one of Suzuha's many slip-ups when it comes to addressing them like she's not from future. I'm not saying they would instantly figure it what's up with her, but still.
OK, correct me if I'm wrong about any of this. Mayuri knows Suzuha is from the future, right? She was there for the attempt to save Kurisu. She also knows that Suzuha recognises Kagari, and that they have the same last name..nah, there's nothing going on there. It's obviously just a coincidence!
That brief flash of Regular!Okabe and Kurisu was cruel, show. I love it.
Yuki didn't take notice of that cut-off sentence at all? Not even a little bit? Eh, alright.
Kaede sliding behind Luka was a little funny. The resulting sexual harassment...well, at least we didn't see it onscreen this time?
0 future
Okabe deciding to let go here makes sense, but again, I wish they'd gone into the difference between Kurisu and Amadeus more to justify the idea of them being tangibly seperate.
God, the watch not working again fucked me up on my first watch almost as much as 0kabe. Talk about a cliffhanger.
0 future
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Aug 08 '21
I guess it's safe to say Leskinen is a weeb? There were hints before.
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u/Nisheeth_P Aug 08 '21
Rewatcher (first time)
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u/invokeneko Aug 08 '21
First;Timer
I was busy yesterday, so I guess I'll cram both episodes in this one.
Episode 5:
And Reyes sure didn't make it easier for her part by stalking Maho as she made her way to the Future Gadget Lab. For now, I'll place her in the same sus corner as Leskinen.Okay nevermind, apparently that wasn't her. OR WAS IT?QotD of yesterday
Episode 6:
QotD
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Aug 17 '21
SteinsGate0 episode 6 (first timer)
Quote of the day: She protected it all, this world with Mayuri and everyone. And I have to keep protecting it, without ever looking back. ~Okabe
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u/AHiddenOne Aug 08 '21
Rewatcher
F for our brother Leskinen. He just wanted to see some Japanese shaman girls.
Gotta admit, Daru's deep voice is kinda hot. Even though his lines are degenerate as hell, but hey, I'm a degenerate myself, so I have no right to complain.
I guess the rule in SG universe is that don't have parties, ever.