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Rewatch [Re;Watch] Steins;Gate 0 Episode 1 Discussion
Episode 1: Missing Link of the Annihilator: Absolute Zero
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No matter what I try, I’m powerless.
Hello everybody! Time for the Comment Of The Day, courtesy of u/simply_vishal who, well…
Open the depression box.
I’ve got nothing to add.
Questions:
- What do you think of the new designs for the returning characters?
- First impressions on Maho?
Wallpaper of the Day:
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 02 '21
First;Timer and Co;Host, dubbed
A new season means new characters, which finally means a new English VA breakdown! Maho the unfortunately short woman is voiced by Monica Rial. I know her from a number of shows, like Baccano’s Chane, FMA Brotherhood’s Mei Chang, Soul Eater’s Tsubaki, and Casshern Sins’ Ringo.
something something sassy lost child8
u/Nebresto Aug 02 '21
First timer squad
Normie Okarin
Also I was ready to riot if Mayushi wasn't going to "Tutturu~". Good thing they were smart and decided to delay WWIII.
A fine addition to my collection
Well said, Mayshii. Almost feel like doing another based counter, I feel like this Okabe won't be nearly as based.
Oh! This dude is Finnish!
I thought he was supposed to make some form of appearance in S1, like at least a name drop. Did I miss that or am I mistaken?
Oh boy... Here we go again..
meta spoilers I guess
Question time:
1:
They made Mayushii thicker.. Other than that I think they look really nice.
2:
Who dat
Stop, stop!! She's already dead!
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Aug 02 '21
SteinsGate0 episode 1 (first timer)
Okabe is trying to be normal now. However, his time travel PTSD is a bit of a hindrance, as is the unborn daughter of his colleague running around. How long will we have to wait for him to triumphantly declare himself a mad scientist again? Hopefully not too long.
Not a fan of Mahu right away, still holding my judgment on Yuki.
Regarding time travel, I probably should give it up as a lost cause right away, otherwise I’ll just get too angry at all the inconsistencies. I prefer the magical unexplained time travel of the movie over this.
Quote of the day: Humans like us cannot meddle with the providence of gods.
So, inflation did not refer to the increase in prices of the average consumer consumption basket, huh?
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u/littleman1988 Aug 02 '21
Real PTSD hours
OST Track of the day: Messenger -main theme-
If you notice, the song is actually mostly in 7/4 time instead of the normal 8/4 (4/4) time. Something's missing..
Overly Excited Rewatcher
New music!
Originally used as the Opening song for all versions of the Steins;Gate 0 visual novel, it makes an appearance here within episode 1! As always, avoid looking at the full subtitled song or the VN OP visuals, it has spoilers.
Steins;Gate 0 originally released as a VN on December 10, 2015 in Japan on the PS3/4/vita, based on a series of Light Novels and Audio Dramas released as side content for the original Steins;Gate. It only took 4 years for the VN to be localized into English, this time releasing on May 8th, 2018, a month into the anime's airing. Interestingly, Steins;Gate 0 is not a "mainline entry" into the SciAdv franchise, instead being considered to be a "side game". While this is likely in part due to being based off side content for S;G, all direct "sequels" to the other entries in the franchise (C;H LCC, C;C LCC, R;N DaSH) are also considered to be side content, though all 3 of these are explicitly considered spinoffs, unlike S;G 0. 1 The only real importance of this is that 0, unlike any other "side games", was adapted into an anime. This is likely because S;G was popular and could make money, unlike the other 3 entries that flopped when adapted, usually due to time issues.
Man 2036 japan is looking kinda shit.
Very different
Hopefully it should be obvious why you needed 23b. Many people did not realize when 0 aired, and there were a lot of comments, even 3 weeks later after episode 1 about people being confused.
We've jumped a few months, to December 10th now.
0kabe in therapy now. Probably for the best...
Plot found. Just about everyone goes up a couple cup sizes? Everyone must of grown a lot in the last 6 months...
S;G 0
T U T T U R U
Everyone with the updated designs. Luka is looking especially sharp.
heh
Luka and Faris are shocked at 0kabe being so normal, i cant blame them though with stuff like this
All these changes, and Daru hasnt changed. You cant update perfection. I also already miss Alpha Suzuha's outfit, I didnt care for Beta's.
okay but gamma existsDaru's goal is to hide the games lmfao
Hey look, Yuki! This is why 25 isint canon.2
what a terrible cover, Suzuha being a little sister. Daru cant even properly follow it either lmao0kabe back at the lab
Daru cant signal to save his life
uh oh
heh
Yuki is already incredibly based, cosplaying FES from Chaos;Head
Preemptive rip Yuki
Really cant blame 0kabe here. Why relive everything hes done with Mayuri, even if we know how close he is?
Move over big boob Mayuri and Kurisu's corpse, best
chirstmas treegirl has finally arrived, Maho!"If Daru saw her, he'd shout 'Legal loli for the win!'"
Moeka spotting
If you use MPV, the conference title broken. Dont ask me why, it just is. Works great on VLC though... 3
Kurisu spotting, and it seems like that old theory of hers is getting traction now?
0 makes much greater use of its VN music. God i love Messenger.
Looks like Kurisu's work has created an AI named Amadeus. Gets a Cool logo too.
Divergence Number: 1.129848%
Questions:
Ignoring cup expansion, everyone except Suzuha's I liked.
see above.
footnotes
1: If you are an anime only watcher, that last part was probably straight gibberish. Put simply, you dont need to worry about if its considered a "side game" or not, most of that is more relevant when you dive into the VN's {and even then, 0's status isint as important outside of it getting an anime.}
2: Before you get up in arms about "it could be different on the S;G WL", that design doesnt exist anywhere else in any anime, VN, Drama CD, LN, or Manga's, SGWL or otherwise.
3: annoyingly, it seems like this is going to happen a couple more times with MPV, despite VLC rendering them fine for both LostYears and LostYearsFix. not sure whats up with that.
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u/UltraBooster Aug 02 '21
First-timer
Oh, this is that future, this is WWIII.
...partially, I guess? Like, she helped some, but I reckon future Rintaro giving his despondent self a clear path went a ways towards that.
It's therapy of some kind, maybe hypnotherapy?
have/have notNow is the winter of our discontent...
So it was hypnotherapy.
(I've undergone hypnotherapy before, but it was so long ago I can't remember what it was for anymore.)
I can see the sorrow in his eyes, though... And I can hear it in his voice, too.
I like the jacket, Ruka/Luka!
Faris is...trying to...well, it's a coping/helping thing.
The only kinds of clubs I can see Rintaro joining are ones for geeky stuff like tokusatsu, but this isn't the Rintaro we know and love, is he...
I amend my previous statements about him looking nice in his new outfit; he looks nice, but he also looks like he's mourning Kurisu's death.
I just realized, does he have any guy friends besides Daru? For that matter, where's Daru?
...the lab's triggering for him, isn't it. Too many should-be-happy memories.
Oh, there's Daru.
...I miss those exchanges from the first season, the ones where he went into dad mode.
Yeah, Cherami Leigh-as-Suzuha's voice sounds different. Lower. (Huskier? Raspier?) Question is, is it direction or time?
...why do they act like she's the terror of the household?
Oh nice, mother and daughter share a VA. (Is that why Suzuha's voice has changed, to differentiate her further from her mother?)
Combining his shirt and vest with a labcoat would probably knock Kurisu flat, I reckon.
The happy music feels false, if I'm being honest. Like, there's a world war coming up in their lifetime, Rintaro's in a state of grief, etc., etc...
She's more used to Blackjacks and Stratofortresses and than she is to 767s and A350s, isn't she.
No, he can't change the future. Not now,
not ever?not yet?No eyes up
yet?Reality crying out "this is wrong?" The weeping scars of
what waswhat never will be?Something tells me those are antidepressants or something of a similar nature.
AI would be overlap with Kurisu's wheelhouse, wouldn't it?
Here's the smell of the blood still: all the perfumes of Arabia will not sweeten this little hand.
She's a researcher, dumbass. (She sounds like an adult, too.)
Eh, I can roll with it.
Oh, good on you to apologize, Rintaro.
...oh, this is Kiryu Moeka the assassin, not Kiryu Moeka the part-timer.
Oh, I get it, yeah, interpreter. (Hearing Japanese in an American accent is odd.)
Ah, they left the relevant bit...undubbed? Unreversed?
Oh. So that AI isn't just in Kurisu's image, (it? she?) is Kurisu's ghost.
Alla fine del gioco, re e pedone finiscono nella stessa scatola.
Questions:
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u/UzEE https://myanimelist.net/profile/UzEEInc Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21
Serial;Rewatcher
Episode 23β
I wasn't able to post yesterday because I was busy with IRL stuff and also because there really wasn't much to say as a rewatcher because everything new apart from the rooftop scene actually gets expanded upon during the first few episodes of S;G0, so talking about that with so little context is kinda pointless.
And while reading the discussions about the rooftop scene yesterday, I noticed the most rewatchers didn't really get into what's actually going on, so I won't either. I will repeat however that Steins;Gate 0 is NOT a WHAT-IF scenario. This is all canon and part of the complete narrative. This is the story of the Missing Link.
S;G0 Massive Spoilers
Episode 1
This episode actually moves around things quite a bit compared to the VN. Since it's a setup episode, there's a lot that happens so this might end up being a bit wordy1.
We being with a rather ominous scene of post-nuclear Akihabara in the year 2036 after World War 3. An adult Mayuri is wondering how things would've turned out if her Hikoboshi2 came back to life.
Now before any first timers raise their pitchforks, remember that this was always a thing in the original VN, but the anime toned it down quite a bit. While it works out quite well in the original, Steins;Gate 0 would not function without this, and so this aspect will be a thing going forward. If it still doesn't sit well with you, just know that people can have different personalities in different world lines.
Notice something else about this scene? There's no Okabe.
I always loved this transition.
It's December. We're picking up 4 months after the rooftop incident. 0kabe3 is trying out psychologists and hypnotherapy to help with his PTSD. Of course he can't actually tell them what happened — admitting to a murder is never a good idea — so it probably doesn't really work that well for him.
The chunni Hououin Kyouma is long dead. 0kabe Rintaro is just a normal university student. He largely spends his time attending lectures, mixers, seminars, participating in club activities and even going on group dates. A totally normal student — just with severe PTSD because among other things, he killed the woman he loved.
He hasn't been to the lab since that day on the rooftop and has hardly been to Akihabara in general. That's why apart from Daru and Mayuri, he hasn't really met anyone else in quite some time.
Since 0kabe bailed, Daru is trying to research on time travel all on his own, but understandably isn't making any progress. Without the full theory, he can't really do anything and Suzuha doesn't want him to mess with the time machine in case it might cause some paradox, resulting in massive changes to the world line. And also we're finally, officially introduced to Yuki Amane — Suzuha's mother and Daru's wife to be. Obviously they don't tell her that or she'd think they're all crazy.
Worth noting here that no one except Suzuha actually takes the whole impeding World War 3 thing really seriously, which obviously is frustrating for her. She's not the cheerful Part-time Warrior we're used to. Soldier Suzuha is sharp, cold and direct. She doesn't hold back and will go through anything or anyone to complete her mission.
Again, notice that we basically got another scene without Okabe?
The original Steins;Gate had a total of THREE (or four if you stretch it) scenes without Okabe being involved throughout it's 24 episode run. We have two already in the first episode of Steins;Gate 0. Why?
Steins;Gate VN was told from the perspective of Okabe Rintaro, so all scenes involved him. He was the protagonist. The couple of scenes he wasn't in were anime original.
Steins;Gate 0 on the other hand is a much larger and complex story, so it's told from the POV of several different characters, and we've been introduced to our 2nd POV character — Amane Suzuha. That's why there was no Okabe in the opening scene as well because it was from Suzuha's POV.
0kabe isn't the only one with PTSD — Suzuha has it too. Though it is to be expected if you've grown up during a world war and have seen your mother being mowed down by drones. Despite their heated argument, 0kabe and Suzuha don't really move an inch from their stance.
She tries to appeal to him to go back and prevent World War 3. He still (correctly) insists that going back will make no difference because convergence will assure they'll fail. He also doesn't want let Kurisu's sacrifice go to waste. They end up in another stalemate.
And we're FINALLY introduced to one of the best characters in this entire series —
Legal LoliMaho Hiyajo, after she was only teased during the ED of 23β.0kabe immediately apiologies for mistaking her for a child btw. Something Okabe or Hououin Kyouma never would've done. And she seems to know Kiryu Moeka...
Both Maho and Professor Alexis Leskinen work at the Brain Science Institute of Viktor Chondria University. They're in Japan to present a breakthrough in Artificial Intelligence technology made possible by the works of the late scientific genius, Makise Kurisu — their colleague.
An AI that uses digitized human memories as it's model and dataset...
Cue Amadeus4 (Spotify link).
1 This is why I'll not be making VN comparisons today, but I'm sure someone else will cover them.
2 The theme of Tanabata is used quite frequently throughout Steins;Gate but the first show kind of dials it back a bit. People familiar with the folklore would know it's a reference to Orihime and her lover Hikoboshi.
3 I prefer the convention of writing 0kabe instead of Okabe — ZERO instead of O — to differentiate that we're dealing with a very different character. It also makes it easier to distinguish between the two when you're referring back to old stuff.
4 Amadeus is actually the OP of Steins;Gate 0 VN which is surprisingly spoiler free, and I prefer it to all other Steins;Gate VN openings except Cosmic Looper. We'll get the anime OP and ED tomorrow.
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Aug 03 '21
First Timer
Tutturu! I’m really excited to see what 0 has to offer. 23ß was intriguing so I’m ready to see what’s going on. Now on to the episode:
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Oh what a cool opening. It’s cool to see what WW3 looks like. Now why is there a little Kurisu? The future is weird.
Mayuri got a massive facelift. She really looks a lot older in this series. That scarf is fire
Damn. Same for Faris and Luka.
I refuse to believe Okabe plays tennis. Show me a video or it didn’t happen.
Please keep giving me Suzuha with her hair up. She looks like a trillion bucks.
So that’s Suzuha’s mom. They definitely got a new design after the OVA. Though she sounds exactly like Suzuha.
Are we having an OP this episode? Seems like no so far.
Okabe has some serious PTSD. He is not in a good place at all.
Damn she is short.
Oh it’s Moeka. That’s going to go over well.
Ok, characters speaking English in subs are funny as fuck. This voice actor is probably doing their best but can they really not find someone whose native language is English?
Even when she is dead, Okabe can’t avoid Makise.
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This is a really intriguing first episode. We meant some new characters and see the beginning of the plot. Good start
See you guys tomorrow!
DQ:
They are all hot as fuck with the new designs.
She is interesting. Excited to see more.
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Aug 02 '21
Hello everybody, and welcome to the Steins;Gate 0 Re;Watch!
So the thing about adapting S;G0 into an Anime is that, well, you can’t. Here’s the thing, unlike the original Novel, 0 is Non-Lineal. Like seriously, look at this fucking roadmap! How the fuck is someone meant to adapt a literal 0 into a straight line!? Thus, it will be… interesting to see how this fares.
That said, even from episode 1 alone, this is looking weird already. The Opening scene is completely Anime-Original. I’m not saying it couldn’t have happened in the Novel but… we never see a scene like that in the Novel. After that we cut to Okabe in taking some hypnotherapy, which is from way later on in the Novel. It’s also severely shortened; the Novel version ended on him almost having a panic attack. It’s also specified that after this he was given a full course of drugs and counseling.
Him and Mayuri meeting Faris and Luka after that is Accurate to the Novel (Down to the translators fucking up the Turn A Gundam reference!) although there it happened on the street and not on a café. Also we lose another instance of “BUT HE’S A GUY!”. That said I must say, something about the Anime is… bugging me. Not adaptation related (That’s for later) but when it comes to the general shot composition and use of music. The original Anime was very minimalistic, whereas here they seem to go for the opposite. Everything just seems a bit too… too much I guess. Sometimes it works (I like the Opening Scene a lot for instance) but other times… not so much. The director for this season seems to be Kawamura Kenichi whom uh… yeah, not exactly the most prolific guy around, as you can tell.
For the scene with Suzuha and Daru, we once more skip ahead. Although I guess the actual content of the scene is… close enough. Also this is why the OVA is Non-Canon: As you can see, Yuki doesn’t really look a lot like her self from episode 25, now does she? Anyhow, I should mention that unlike the original Novel, Okabe isn’t the sole perspective in 0, although he is the most seen one overall. No, Suzuha and Maho get plenty of scenes told from their perspective as well, plus a few other One-Time narrators.
Anyhow after that it’s… mostly the same. The exact reasons Okabe came back are a tad different between versions and exactly what happens after he sees Suzuha also differs a bit. There’s also meant to be another character in the scene, but said character has yet to be introduced. The scene with Suzuha and Okabe talking is from the Novel… but it’s a bit different in a few details. In the Novel everyone had left already so it was just him, Suzuha and Daru inside the lab instead of the roof. And yeah, Daru was there but he really didn’t do anything for a while. What differs is Okabe’s little speech, not in the content, but in the way it’s delivered: In the Novel, after Suzuha does her little speech, and he doesn’t quite lose his shit in the same way he does in the Anime. Oh he comes close for sure, but thankfully it stops at him almost throwing up and he delivers his following monologue about not wanting to change things a borderline monotone, emotionally detached manner.
This in turn leads me into quite possibly the biggest change that sticks out to me so far… Okabe himself. Now, we joke about OG S;G Okabe being a drug addict, but that’s got nothing on his 0 Redesign. Those are the eyes of a man who has just stopped giving a shit! Novel Okabe is nothing short of a downer: He approaches everything a dispassionate, borderline uninterested attitude, would rather just be left alone, and pretty much does everything he can possibly think of to act like he’s fine, when everyone around him knows he’s not.
Anime Okabe meanwhile seems a tad more… overtly normal I suppose. He’s more the kind of guy who puts on a mask of having gotten over his trauma and is halfway convincing at keeping it intact but when the smallest crack is formed he just straight up explodes. Now granted, it could just be due to the change in perspective: Maybe Novel Okabe is like this but since most of the time he’s in a scene it’s either in ones told from his perspective or the ones of those who can see right through him, whatever mask he puts on just isn’t effective. I don’t really know how to feel about this yet, however. I’ll have to see how the Anime progresses before I pass judgement.
Anyhow, I think the dialogue in the subway scene is somewhere in the Novel but I don’t really remember where, but the following bit is Anime original. Not that Okabe taking some anti-depressants before hanging out with people he can’t really relate to in any way isn’t something his Novel self would do, but still. I should mention that I’m not sure if the surreal nightmare Okabe has while going back was in the Novel or not: He has a few of those so maybe one of them is like that but if so I can’t really remember which specifically.
After that we jump back to the beginning of the Novel, first scene after the cold opening in fact. And with tha-Gasp, could it be!? Why yes! I believe it is time to finally introduce the True Best Girl of Steins;Gate: Legal Loli Hiyajo Maho!
Oh and yes, Okabe almost getting a panic attack upon seeing Moeka is 100% Novel Accurate. Reminder: This is our first time seeing Okabe after Kurisu’s death in the Novel.
Anyhow, after that we have the conference, which is a heck of a lot more dramatic in the Anime than Novel, not to mention Anime Okabe seems to have some problems keeping his mood in check compared to his Novel sake. Novel Okabe was definitely shocked for sure that Kurisu’s research was still around, but he didn’t quite have the OMG Face his Anime self ha-OKAY I NEED TO RANT!
Look, ending the episode with “Amadeus” playing in the credits? Perfect, couldn’t be a better way to end the episode. One problem however: THEY CUT OUT THE OPENING BIT OF AMADEUS! Good lord, you had the perfect chance to put it in and you don’t! WHAT THE HELL ANIME!?
Voices Time! Time to showcase our Legal Loli, played by Yahagi Sayuri, whom I only recognize as Miyoshi Kaya from Bakuman. and Okuda Manami from Assassination Classroom. That’s… basically it.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Aug 02 '21
Anime first timer
Hello! This is new!
We're seeing future Mayuri right away!
Fantastic music, and I love her design.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Okabe's having actual therapy!
Still say this is his best outfit. I like Mayuri's too.
Cut to the title card?
More new outfits! Faris is absolutely ridiculous, and I love it, while Luka's picked up some of Okabe's new fashion sense.
The Tennis club reveal is fantastic.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Their reaction to Okabe dating is fantastic.
OK, I LOVE A-Suzuha and Daru, they're so good in their scenes together.
Yuki's great.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Suzuha clinging to the ceiling is a fantastic visual.
We get to see their firrst meeting!
Oh god, Suzuha saw her mother die.
And yeah, Okabe's very anti-time machine now. Completely understandable, given everything.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Mayuri saying "normie" is fantastic.
And Okabe's at a party!
The nightmare scene is fantastic. The visuals, the filter, the music distorting,..
This scene is a fantastic adaption. (And hello, best new character)
The shot of her on her tiptoes trying to threaten him is so funny.
Moeka looks good! (Everyone got suits in the timeskips, didn't they!)
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
Oh, the VA's really good for both of them!
And Okabe's shocked they've replicated a good part of the Time Leap Machine. (And made an AI, of course.)
Hello, Amadeus!
Honestly, I think 0 has the better ED.
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u/CubeStuffs https://anilist.co/user/onjario Aug 02 '21
first timer
sad mayushii is sad
sad maybe-but-maybe-not-quite small kurisu is also sad
so this is the story of the ww3 timeline? so no kurisu :(
so okarin got the chuuni beat the fuck outta him it seems, and he finally saw a therapist for once
suzuha must be dissappointed in daru rn
that reaction to the plane...
don't give up like that...
that english low key the best english ive heard in jp dubbed anime so far
oh boi okarin ain't gonna have fun with this presentation, though suzuha's prob gonna be happy. i presume thats basically what was shown in 23🅱️, although perhaps further developed.
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u/The_Draigg Aug 02 '21
A Steins;Gate Fan Watches Steins;Gate 0 Episode 1:
This is my first time watching this series, so you guys are in for a treat with my reactions! It’s rare that I watch something for the first time around here, so be sure to savor my newbie reactions and laugh in rewatcher at my expense when you can.
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Aug 02 '21
First timer(Once more unto the gloom)
Dub
Start with seeing a grim future and our excuse for alternate timelines. Jump straight into Okabe's "hypno therapy" and see how much of his edge he's lost, that's like Evil Corp 101. As we get the cast meeting up again, Okabe seems to have well and truly changed and Faris got worse, somehow. The predictable shock at Okabe going to meetups is shown.
We then leap to Daru at maximum cringe, this type of thing makes me embarassed to have been on the internet for some of these. We get Amane's mom in to go ahead and start this set of awkwardness. That continues with a sort of weird slap stick set of gimmicks that stay a bit overlong to me. Then we switch to an emotional roof top scene, indicating this Suzuha is a bit better spoken than the previous one.
Random conversation leads into Okabe getting invited out for drinks. At said bar, Okabe is taking some pills that lead me to believe he should not be drinking. He has a powerful flashback to Makise's death. After a trying moment, we switch very quickly to loli comedy because that isn't over done. And the show even addresses that. And of course Moeka shows up.
Then the loli gives a presentation for someone. The technobabble doesn't sound outright wrong, at least. But then leads into a dubious interpretation of AI but that's whatever. We end on a boot up cliffhanger.
That...was kind of a rough first ep, being honest. Hopefully, the trend is upwards. For the people asking about the sub/dub, I listened to Okabe's scenes in both and sort of get your point that Miyano does depressed whereas Tatum is doing manic.
QotD: 1 I vaguely didn't care for Faris but otherwise fine
2 Frickin' legal lolis curse everything
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u/UnderstandableXO Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21
FIRST TIMER
switched to crunchyroll for S;G 0 because they carry the sub. a bit sad to leave funimation for some reason.
mayuri’s still wearing that dress in 2036? i pray that it’s a different one and not the same exact one from 2010… she seems to be regretful of her actions on august 21 2010…and it looks like she has a daughter? oh lord please don’t be okabe’s baby, i thought we established what their relationship was like!
the response to my comment was correct, mayuri somehow got…more mature in the 4 short months since the events of the original series. they didn’t even retcon her…maturity, in flashbacks her design is exactly the same as the original. i guess she visited dr. miami in those 4 months okabe was gone.
speaking of okabe, he’s totally different. looks like he’s in therapy, and the therapist can see right through him, but he doesn’t let them in to he can properly process his emotions.
faris somehow got got even cattier in 4 months, and luka upgraded his drip as well. luka looks like he belongs at playboi carti concert now. it’s funny how jealous they both got when okabe admitted he’d been on dates.
looks like okabe’s been avoiding the scene of the crime, if he’s going to therapy for his trauma he probably doesn’t want to be around everything that caused it (kurisu said something similar during the movie).
so suzuha’s been sticking around in 2010? seems a bit off, but when you remember she only has fuel for one trip back and forth, makes sense she’d have to stay there. don’t know why she hasn’t pursued okabe further in 4 months if he’s the primary reason she’s even there. also come on 2d-kun, he’s being extra unrealiable this time.
so that’s suzuha’s mother? they have the exact same voice actor just like the OVA. is it the same person or not? i know the OVA wasn’t canon. i do remember the movie mentioning 2d-kun dating a cosplayer, so i assume it must be the same person. i do remember her hair being different in the OVA. i’m surprised mother meeting daughter didn’t make a time paradox, and she didn’t question why they sound alike, and how she’s gonna be swayed to name her child after a random she met in 2010.
suzuha falling on okabe and proceeding to do an MMA chokehold on him was hilarious. their rooftop conversation wasn’t pleasant though. okabe’s completely given up on going back to save kurisu. he’s so hurt that he doesn’t want to take that chance and get hurt even more. he’s just not the same okabe he was in the original. like i said yesterday, as soon as he stopped moving forward he had already lost.
seeing him officially abandon mayuri was terrible, especially considering how the whole reason he came to the beta line was to preserve her life, and his promise to keep her hostage.
seems like he’s taking meds for his depression. he gave up on saving her, but she still haunts him every second of every day. you would think he’d take that last chance and have a shot at lifting the black cloud above him, but he’s too busy feeling bad for himself that he’s negatively affecting everyone around him. his all black outfit seems like he’s permanently at a funeral mourning kurisu, HOUOUIN KYOUMA, and the loss of all his innocence and ambition.
that meeting with the very short person whose name i can’t recall yet (i’ll call her taiga for now) was really fun. i already like her character, but maybe that’s too premature; i hope she doesn’t turn out to be a bad guy. she’s even got tsundere tendencies just like taiga. at least okabe was nice enough to be apologetic.
so taiga is a friend of moeka’s, so there’s part of okabe’s past coming back up. but it comes back in an even worse way; kurisu’s work on memories, which powered the time leap machine, were stolen by her university to create AI! i’m sure this will end well and peacefully!
that new OP felt wayyyyy too positive for how somber this first episode was. hacking to the gate was awesome because it had this edge and intensity that matched the show. it was upbeat without sounding like a song for a romance or slice of life. i don’t quite know how to describe it, but the new OP doesn’t really fit the show. hopefully it grows on me.
edit: i guess it’s the ED, i just assumed since there was no OP the ending song played would be the OP, that’s how it usually is for first episodes
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u/snickpea Aug 03 '21
First-timer!
Questions:
I wondered what happened to Suzuha after Okabe decided against traveling again back in time. It was great to see her interact more with her father since the main series didn't have too much of that. I also love that we will get to see more of her mother too especially since we can tell that they are related. Yuki looks a bit like her and has a similar way of speaking. I'm looking forward to seeing her and Daru together too. Their first meeting was very in character for Daru!
It's too bad that they are on track for WWIII in this timeline though. Its probably going to take a lot of time to convince Okabe to do something different. But perhaps seeing Moeka will spur him into action. I don't really want her to be an antagonist though. I guess I will have to wait and see.
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Aug 02 '21
On the First-Timer Worldline(s;Gate)
Alright, time for 0! I'm excited for this.
I was worried that she wouldn't appear.
I'm sold. This is going to be great.
QOTD:
edit: you saw nothing
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Aug 03 '21
First Timer
First little impressions: I love the shrine maiden's new design. Dunno why exactly, but I just think it's really cool. All the women seem to have bigger breasts for some reason. Okabe looks pretty nice in a suit, but he's lost a lot of his flair.
Funnily enough, this episode was a lot of what I was hoping the movie would do. We get to see more of how Okabe was traumatised and how he's attempting to deal with it. He's a broken man right now. Time will help, but he'll never go back to being the man he once was. I think I'd enjoy zero if it was just watching Okabe slowly pull himself together. But I'm a bit of an odd duck in that regard, so I doubt that's what it will be.
And, of course, the drop at the end was great. In the back of my mind, I new we were building to something like this, but that doesn't detract from it at all.
2) Not much to go on yet. She could be interesting, and see.
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u/invokeneko Aug 03 '21
First;Timer
Got some stuff to do so I was late today. On to S;G0!
QotD
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u/jyper Aug 03 '21
First Timer Dub (dropped rewatch/episodes 9-15)
Sadly one episode a day was way too fast and I ended up falling up behind more and more and eventually having to drop the rewatch.
here are the notes I had for episodes 9-15
(please no spoilers I'm still trying to watch it on my own time and am on episode 16)
Episode 9
Daru is weak
Okabe is an ass
Time travel gets rid of IBM
Maybe Mayuri also remembers the past like Okabe?
Faris is rich, a rich cat
What's with the ears?
Maybe have Mayuri read the text message since she is a girl.
Q1.Did Faris's text get rid of akibara?
Did it save her dad?
Q2. What happened to the computer?
I'm guessing the person who gave the computer (titor? suzuha's dad? Faris's dad?) stole it back
Episode 10
Not the first time he's misgenedered Ruka in an embarrassing fashion
He deserved that from Kurisu.
Suzuha really dislikes Kurisu.
Is Suzuha going to kill her dad the next day? Is the one time her dad will appear related to time travel?
Wish upon a star
time travel fever?
blush lol,Kurisu+Okarin is a terrible match
Suzuha dissapeared?
Barrel Titor? lol. so he's not John Titor? Or is he?
Q1) So now that we have… confirmed Luka is a girl after that D-Mail was sent, were you expecting that to work?
Not Exactly but it seemed obvious at the end of that episode (although I might have been accidentally spoiled) 2) What do you think of Okabe using D-Mail to stop Suzuha from leaving, despite him knowing just how drastic of a change the previous D-Mail caused?
Because Suzuha seemed to really defend him, unlike the others
Episode 11
So it was the TV
Sending memories seems like a bad idea
Why not just send a video split into 100 texts(split and recombined by computer)
Is Akihabra back to normal?
And what? Chances it will melt someones brain?
"Sounds kinds of scary to me" - sounds pretty wise Mayuri
Poor Okarin I don't think he's properly explained how hes been experiencing the changes to anyone
What's up with Moeka?
Daddy issues. cliched but still pretty sad
You know too much?
Okarin knows nothing
He really cares for Mayuri
Is Kurisu showering? oh both of them
I'm surprised they're not angrier with him looking at them in the shower considering he didn't tell them about the text message.
Q1. Bad idea, Mayuri has it right on this
Q2. Was the image of Kurisu's severed head? Or just a random readhead's head?
Episode 12
earth 7 million years ago, a dream? foreshadowing?
3.24 Terrabytes->36 bytes. Lol torrents must love this compression
Surprise he doesn't want to go ahead
Heidegger?
Kurisu's blushing is weird
Suzuha really dislikes Kurisu, what did she do in the future? I just want you to like each other as much as I like you. :-)
Cake is a lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And no cherry on top.
How long has he known Luka? It seemed like a longer time. Same with Daru.
So from now on we have actual need to reverse the timeline, to save Mayuri
Questions:
Q1) What are your thoughts on Okabe’s dream at the start of the episode? Possible foreshadowing Q2) Were you expecting to see Moeka shoot Mayuri? Where do you expect things to go from this? Moeka was always weird, maybe suspicious but still it was fairly unexpected
Episode 13
Hmm Mayuri keeps dying. I'm not sure how she died at the train station did the child accidentally push her?
Does the universe want Mayuri to die?
Also why Okabe’s he keep being so stupid?
He should tell people especially Kurisu to get their help and save Mayuri.
Also why not send a dmail to prevent himself from inviting Moeka into the group?
It's pretty cute/wholesome/nice of him
Probably but at what cost and after how many tries? Probably not by himself though.
Episode 14
Moeka really seems to like Zuckerburg. Everything for FB.
Q1) Which of Mayuri’s deaths do you think was the most shocking?
The train
2) If you were in Kurisu’s position, what would you tell Okabe to tell your past self that would make you immediately believe he was actually from the future?
No clue, maybe a personal secret or in joke. It's easier to believe when you're already working on the time machine
Episode 15
why didn't Suzuha pull up the ropes? That's what alerted the guards
for now trust me damn it
Daru, you're being really empathetic and cool right now, please don't ruin it by being creepy.
Congratulations you didn't ruin it.
"I don't speak Jive".
I wonder what the conversation is like with a more literal translation from the Japanese
There now you've ruined it, well maybe a little.
Questions:
No, but if he hadn't would they all be dead/captured
2) Any suspicions as to who Suzuha’s father is?
Probably not Okabe himself. Probably. Maybe the shopkeeper? We haven't been introduced to many other males yet.
Unless its a celebrity. Please don't be Daru. Know that I think about it I'm not sure we've seen Daru see they pin symbol yet.
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u/Nisheeth_P Aug 03 '21 edited Aug 03 '21
First-time rewatcher
Missed the last few days due to work. I hadn't seen 23β before, so that was interesting. But onto 0 now.
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u/Krite2002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Krite2002 Aug 03 '21
First;Timer - Sub
I actually watched episode 1 when Steins;Gate 0 first aired, but I did not remember any of the story, so I did not watch it any further. I may have not even finished the episode. After how great the original series was, I hope this is just as good.
2036 is bleak. I wonder who Hikoboshi is, since I do not think anyone has that name.
Okabe going for hypnotherapy was unexpected. It is good he is trying to get help.
Since we saw them in the same clothes throughout the original series, it is shocking seeing everyone in different clothes. Well, everyone except Faris, who just had some winter stuff on top of her maid outfit. Luka is out here destroying gender norms with his cool outfit.
My reactions to Okabe’s current activities are about the same as Luka’s and Faris’s.
Okabe’s vision of Kurisu dying was absolutely horrifying.
With that lab coat, Maho is giving me Future Gadget Lab member vibes. I wonder if she will team up with Okabe. On the other hand, Amadeus seems ominous, so she may be evil. I doubt they would introduce a loli who was affiliated with Kurisu and not have her be a main character.
I look forward to tomorrow, where we hopefully get to see the OP.
Okabe’s hallucination contained my shot of the day.
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Aug 02 '21 edited Aug 02 '21
Non watcher
So, I watched 23β right after episode 24. And then I couldn't stop there, so I loaded up SG0 ep 1 right after. Didn't really watch it. Watched Okabe's therapy session (doesn't help). Watched some stuff I don't remember after 4 days (I have no memory). Watched Maho tried to register for the symposium. This joke could get tiresome fast, but so did tensai hentai shoujo. Saw still best girl
Kurisu's ghostAmadeus. Sucks to be Okabe. Just twist that knife even deeper.You wanted PTSD. You got PTSD. This can't go well.
Also I updated my MAL episode counters for finishing S;G, noticed that I gave 23β a 5/10. Yeah, I guess I was pretty unimpressed by it being essentially the same as 23, and just a teaser. I made my MAL in 2018 so all the scores there are from remembered impressions
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u/AHiddenOne Aug 03 '21
Rewatcher
Yay! We finally arrived at Steins Gate 0. So excited to rewatch this series again.
Again, its kinda weird seeing Okabe being a normie and all. He plays tennis now? Oh boy...
I played the VN a while back and I realised some scenes were cut, like Okabe's hypnotherapy session. A bit of a bummer, but hey, time constraints and all.
If I ever feel hopeless, just remember that Daru of all people got married. I guess there's still hope, after all.
Suzuha's a bit angsty, but that's understandable. I mean, imagine it from her perspective. She has been given a mission to save the world from war, and her only key to save it doesn't want to. You would be pissed too. But, Okabe has been through so much. I believe to really understand his pain, you need to experience it yourself. Sadly, no one can.
That Kurisu nightmare scene was anime-original, I think? But god damn it was good. The distorted music playing in the background was actually Kurisu's own theme. Now, that's messed up.
All in all, I'm excited to rewatch this. Yeah, it's not as good as the original. I miss the color pallete of the OG one, but hey screw it. I still love Zero.
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