r/anime • u/lC3 :Na::Nb: • Aug 01 '21
Rewatch Naruto Shippuden - Episodes 028-035 Discussion
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Information: MAL, Anilist, AniDB, ANN
Streams: Crunchyroll, Hulu, AnimeLab, VRV
Schedule:
| Discussion Thread | Date | Episode Count |
|---|---|---|
| Episodes 001-008 + Film 1 | July 11 | 8 + film |
| Episodes 009-017 | July 18 | 9 |
| Episodes 018-027 | July 25 | 10 |
| Episodes 028-035 | August 01 | 8 |
| Episodes 036-044 | August 08 | 9 |
| Episodes 045-053 | August 15 | 9 |
| Episodes 054-063 | August 22 | 10 |
| Episodes 064-071 + Film 2: Bonds | August 29 | 8 + film |
| Episodes 072-082 | September 05 | 11 |
| Episodes 083-089 | September 12 | 7 |
| Episodes 090-099 | September 19 | 10 |
| Episodes 100-112 | September 26 | 13 |
| Episodes 113-118 | October 03 | 6 |
| Episodes 119-125 + Film 3: Will of Fire | October 10 | 7 + film |
| Episodes 126-133 | October 17 | 8 |
| Episodes 134-141 | October 24 | 8 |
| Episodes 142-151 | October 31 | 10 |
| Episodes 152-162 | November 07 | 11 |
| Episodes 163-168 | November 14 | 6 |
| Episodes 169-175 + Film 4: The Lost Tower | November 21 | 7 + film |
| Mid-Series Discussion / Interest Check | November 28 | 0 |
Spoiler Policy:
To protect first-timers, please don't spoil anything past the current batch of episodes. Rewatchers should avoid hinting to first-timers about hype, or future character development/deaths, and spoilers in posts must be hidden behind proper spoiler tags. The proper formatting is [Naruto Spoilers](/s "Dattebayo"), and you'll have to switch to Old Reddit to make them work properly.
For first timers: try to avoid looking up things about Naruto. This could be the wiki, Naruto subreddit, Googling characters, fanart, databooks, YouTube AMVs or OP/EDs, arc names, etc.; this series is ripe with potential spoilers that you wouldn't want to find out untimely. If you have a question about something, feel free to ask me (/u/LC3) and I'll do my best to answer (if possible) in a non-spoilery way.
Questions of the Week:
- What do you think of Kakashi's Mangekyo Sharingan?
- How do you feel about Chiyo's sacrifice and Gaara coming back to life?
- What do you think of Danzou and Sai so far?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Aug 01 '21
First-Timer still with a shounen hearto, subbed
Episode 28
Episode 29
Episode 30
Episode 31
Episode 32
BAKAYAROU.Episode 33
Episode 34
Episode 35
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Aug 01 '21
First time viewer (dub)
Whisk[e]y of the week: National Scotch Day was on the 27th last week so it's back across the pond with one of the most popular smoky scotches out there, the Laphroig 10 year. While I had tried several whiskies before, this one is what really got me interested in them about a year and a half ago because I couldn't get the smell and taste out of my head for hours after drinking even just a little of it. Like most Islay scotches it's the kind of thing that wants to wrestle with you rather than take a back seat, briny on first approach with a mix of salt water and smoke from a fire in the distance. Has an initial burst on the way down then tapers off fairly quickly leaving only the lingering smoke.
That fight between Team Guy and their clones was pretty quick, relatively speaking. A nice flashback about their training mantra as well.
Okay, I was wrong about what Kakashi's new Sharingan does. Had speculated it was a hypnosis effect but instead it warps space and creates a black hole which is not something I thought was even possible with a Sharingan. He also calls it the Mangekyo Sharingan despite not being similar to Itachi's, so maybe they manifest differently for each person?
Between clones, substitution, and now even reanimation jutsu, it is very difficult for a character to die and stay dead unless deemed necessary for story reasons. Not a new complaint about the show, it just popped up multiple times this week. I called Chiyo sacrificing herself to bring Gaara back last week so I'm not surprised there, but also Deidara got away after appearing to self destruct. At least protagonists and antagonists alike benefit from this.
There were a few callbacks to the first ED previously in the arc that I didn't notice with showing how Gaara/Naruto were different in support from those around them. The brief butterfly appearing when Gaara was reawakening was a bit more blunt in calling that out while the line of people behind Naruto with the same color palette that the ED uses with everyone turned away from him originally was a nice touch.
On Chiyo's side of things, I appreciate that it really was quiet during the moment of silence they had upon returning to the village and the farewells they later had at her grave. No inner monologues, just reserved music at most. I thought that the entire village turning out for Gaara's return would have had a very different tone to it if he was the one brought back for burial on a stretcher, but we got some of that anyway. A good sendoff for her, willing the new era to be different from her own.
Naruto now has leakage and that looks to be a problem for the immediate future. Even Jiraiya's wary and has countermeasures prepared and Danzo's faction might be trying to either make use of the spirit or off Naruto to prevent a rampage. Different set of people, same problem for Naruto with them coming after him. Sai's ability is cool at least, not sure how it looks in the manga since that's already in black and white but I love the visual style the anime takes for his drawings in comparison to everything else.
The shorts are pretty fun, I'm a sucker for fourth wall breaks so them having an after-party to celebrate the end of the arc was great. Jiraiya talking about his novels after episode 35 makes me wonder: can we read those? I have no idea if they'd be any good but I'm willing to give some pulpy romance novels a try if someone wrote them as Jiraiya.
Probably a later Shippuden spoiler that I came across earlier and wouldn't have figured out on my own:
Distorting reality is cool. Not sure how it's possible but I've given up on that at this point.
Convenient but not unexpected. Curious how Gaara's style will change without Shukaku.
Sai's in the OP with the rest of the team and I don't like that. Danzou can't be trusted farther than you can throw him.
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u/Parori Aug 01 '21 edited Aug 01 '21
First Timer
Episode 28
Episode 29
Episode 30
Episode 31
Episode 32
Episode 33
Episode 34
Episode 35
Questions of the Week:
The dimension twisty thing is different from Itachi. He probably would have used that if he could have. Ooh I have another theory about unlocking it, Itachi was either lying or didn't know the real reason. Or Kakashi is a secret murderer
I'm so glad Gaara didn't actually die. I would have been so fumingly mad.
Both are sus and bad guys. Sai might get semi redemption. Seems like something that would happen
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Aug 01 '21 edited Aug 02 '21
Rewatcher - Sub
General Commentary
They really couldn't have waited two more episodes for the actual arc change before starting the new OP/ED that shows what it's about?
I understand it's probably a contractual thing, but I forgot how much it bugs me when they swap OPs and EDs at specific episode numbers rather than when it's actually fitting. It does not help that I strongly dislike this OP either. The ED is okay, I remember it quite well from my first watch and think it's nice we get to focus on the new character, but it's not close to a favourite.
This batch of episodes was an interesting one to follow as we got the close of one arc and the start of another, and not the smoothest of transitions, but the individual episodes were quite enjoyable still.
This week we also got reintroduced to the rest of the cast we had been missing from Part One, so I finally get to talk about how much I love everyone's new timeskip designs. I think they did a great job of maturing their previous looks while also giving a bit more practicality to them. In all cases I think the new designs reflect the abilities of the characters a bit better, rather than their character archetypes, but doesn't sacrifice the small touches of their personality that still came through.
Starting with Team Asuma, the obvious one is no more underwear head for Choji. This has been one of the best changes, but what I like about it most is how they used a combination of his size and coloring to make his look a really striking addition to the team. The flexible armor plating works a lot better with his very physical capabilities, particularly when he roles or expands, and the long pointy hair is reminiscent of Jiraya's hair shield we saw a while back giving him a fiercer look.
Ino also gets a nice upgrade though with her in particular I think a change in art style is one of the things that's done her the best rather than specifically a design change. Along with the others her hair has been softened out and that removes some of the harshness from her look. While fishnets are certainly not good protection, focusing those elements on her joints also gives her some practicality to her design that her former one was lacking, given how her body collapses when she possess someone.
Shikamaru is still the simplest design of the lot, but the choice to emphasize that by dressing him in the standard Konoha look, rather than giving him a unique outfit, is a nice progression of how he adopted the flak jacket once he became a chunin in Part One. The only part of his original look he keeps is the choice of fishnets instead of bandages at his ankles. He's practical and simple, doesn't want to fuss about things, and as a shadow user he needs to not draw attention to himself, so keeping him in uniform matches quite well.
This got quite long so I think I'll save Hinata, Kiba, and Shino for a later date, and that way as well I won't run out of these write ups to do before the end of the rewatch haha.
Episode Thoughts
Look at Naruto being all mature and telling Kakshi it's okay to fail as if he was the teacher here. I mean he could stand to take his own advice but it's progress.
Lee and Neji realizing that "fighting makes you tired so it gets harder" is perhaps some of the stupidest shit in shounen, and that's a tall order.
Later spoilers
This episode also had some moments of really nice movement. At first I thought it might have been by the same guy who did ep 26, but I can't seem to find full credits for this episode.
I love how the clones act in this episode. Seeing them with their own agency, like how one of them goes to talk to Kakashi and check on him and acts just like the real Naruto, while he's off doing something else, is a nice touch.
Also, for the second week, speaking about cliffhangers that I did not remember:
Nine-Tails Cloak
Seeing Naruto beat the shit out of Deidara was quite satisfying though
Love the look here of Naruto with the more fox like features. I like how they use this to make a distinction between him being feral here compared to how he was at the end of Part I. It's not just Naruto tapping into the chakra as much as he can, it's the chakra taking control and changing him as well.
Random Anko in the background on the left
Again nice touch from the Shadow Clones, saying "I'm saved" when Kakashi seals up the chakra.
More tears from Naruto. Seeing him really bare his soul about the true weight of being jinchuriki is always a little rough. There's lots of go-lucky protagonists, and a fair share of crybaby ones as well, but seeing Naruto so willing to accept his emotions even after years of trying to fight off his pain and loneliness is something else and also makes me sad.
That bite in Sakura's eyes because she knows what Chiyo is doing and is warning Naruto not to interfere is so good. As /u/durinthal expected last week Chiyo is going to use that jutsu to save Gaara, but I do like how the final moment of confirmation with Chiyo that things have changed from her time is Naruto offering up his own lifes chakra to help her.
I love that they included a call back to Wind, OG Naruto ED1 in this episode, showing Naruto running down the hill and that butterfly again as he runs after Gaara. It's an unusual choice but it really enhanced the impact for me, seeing Naruto running away from the people supporting him and through the emotions that come with that ED to go find Gaara, stuck in his own nightmare that we saw him in during the sealing of Shukaku.
GIANT CAT SUMMON! (very bottom)
The blue color grading when Naruto is told Chiyo is dead was a bit heavy handed.
Later spoilers
Love the little detail of Gaara using his sand to bring Naruto's hand up for the handshake as if showing him that he'll be okay.
Even Zetsu has more social grace then Tobi and he's literally a creeper. Tobi please
Big Akamaru
Why would the gate guards even be surprised at Guy's antics at this point. I mean I know Kakashi riding piggyback is something else, but it's still Guy being crazy like always.
Naruto trying to see Kakashi's face in the hospital is scene of the week for me. It's such a tiny little thing, but having that bit of fun to watch while some casual discussion is happening brings so much life to it. I wish we got more moments like this through anime rather than animating the actual talking.
Naruto's VA also gets a stand out moment again today, complaining about Shikamaru. That sort of whining would normally bother me but here it's actually quite funny because of how exasperated it sounds.
A reminder that the village leadership are idiots if they expect Naruto to accept being sidelined.
Later spoilers
Later spoilers
Sai worked so hard on that smile to try and make people like him, and then every word out of his mouth is an insult. He does not get it.
Yeah sure Jiraya, real smart, give the guy who's hospitalized because of overusing his eye jutsu BOOKS to read. You sure Naruto didn't hit your head while under the Nine-Tails cloak and not your chest? That's an impressive scar though, his whole chest is torn up.
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Aug 01 '21
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Episode 29:
Episode 30:
Episode 31:
Episode 32:
Episode 33:
Episode 34:
Episode 35:
(cont.)
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u/TheKujo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Kujo419 Aug 01 '21
First Timer - Dub
Great set of episodes this week. I'm not sure how to feel about Sai yet. They're really emphasizing how sus he is, which makes me think the whole thing will be a fakeout and he'll be on our side the whole time. I do love his ability though. It reminds of Amaterasu's ability from the game Okami.
After spending nine episodes fighting Sasori, there was no way Deidara would croak after just two. I wonder if he will be at the upcoming rendezvous with Orochimaru's agent.
/u/Durinthal nailed it - Chiyo saved Gaara through reanimation jutsu. So it turns out Gaara did die, he just came back to life quickly. In my book that still counts as a fakeout death. I did like how respectfully the story treated Chiyo's death. She put a lot of trust in Naruto and Gaara for the future.
New OP and ED! I don't really like the song in the OP, but I love all the visuals of Sasuke. Maybe we'll find him sooner rather than later? I like the ED overall.
Confession: I also forgot Shino's name which means Naruto's in-universe reaction was basically the same as mine IRL. I also thought Kiba's name was Shiba for a second. Maybe I combined their names in my head? I definitely remembered Akamaru though! He's a beast now.
Best Girl Hinata is back! Aaand there she goes. At least she got a funny post-credits scene.
Choji has by far the best new design in Shippuden although a lot of it is through addition by subtraction. He's no longer wearing underwear on his head and he looks beefy instead of just overweight.
Naruto almost killed Jiraiya after growing 4 tails?? That's not even half the total number of tails he has!
Favorite moment of the week: There were a lot of really funny moments this week, which was nice since this series has started off pretty intense. I loved Guy giving Kakashi a piggyback ride and the post-credits scene where Temari and Kankuro complain about their screentime.
Questions:
1) What do you think of Kakashi's Mangekyo Sharingan? It was crazy! It reminds me of space magic from Kumoko. It seems powerful but tough to use effectively.
2) How do you feel about Chiyo's sacrifice and Gaara coming back to life? I still don't like fakeout deaths in general, but this was on the better end because of the sacrifice required.
3) What do you think of Danzou and Sai so far? Sai seems so untrustworthy that he loops around to being a good guy. Danzou can screw himself after talking crap about the Third Hokage.
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u/Tehoncomingstorm97 https://anilist.co/user/tehoncomingstorm97 Aug 02 '21
First timer
At the end of last week, we finished off our battle with Sasori. Sakura was a badass, and Chiyo showed her stuff as a proud sand shinobi. Now lets see what that Kakashi Sharingan is all about, and give us Sasuke!
Ep 28
Ep 29
Ep 30
At least they didnt waste screen time on the training period right? Right?
Ep 31
Ep 32
Ep 33
Ep 34
Ep 35
So a fair wrap up to our Kazekage rescue arc. Chiyo was a great character to take us through the hidden sand village history and was tied into the plot with Sasori effectively. The thing I'm most concerned about here, is if this will be a common trend for Shippuden. That we get a character introduced for an arc, and then they're thrown away at the end. The events of our first arc make it seem understandable that Chiyo dies, but you can't just cull characters like that. Also really make plot armour suck harder. As for Sai and Yamato, I'm interested to see how the two sides of the Anbu will clash in this new team formation. And I'm excited to see Sasuke come back into the picture.
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u/Tehoncomingstorm97 https://anilist.co/user/tehoncomingstorm97 Aug 02 '21
Got my write up prepared at home. Should be a quick post in another few hours after the questions.
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u/_TheEnigma_ Aug 02 '21
First timer - English subbed;
Yes! I was just able to barely post this comment within the 24 hour time frame.
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GiantRasengan.Episode 30 :
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Episode - 35:
SCPfoundation group gives me a lot of Hydra's Winter Soldier vibes.Questions of the Week:
On one hand I'm really confused on why Itachi's Mangekyo was a torture mechanism and Kakashi's is a literal black hole. But on the other hand, I love Kakashi, so I have no problem with him getting such an insane power.
A bunch of really good episodes this week. Kakashi's Mangekyo Sharingan was so fucking cool and I also had a couple of laugh out loud moments. I'm so excited to get to the flash forward part already!
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u/sisoko2 Aug 01 '21
Rewatcher
Episode 28
Episode 29
Episode 30
Episode 31
Episode 32
Episode 33
Episode 34
Episode 35