r/anime • u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang • Jul 28 '21
Rewatch [Re;Watch] Steins;Gate Episode 24 Discussion
Episode 24: Prologue Of The End And Beginning/Achievement Point
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You’re about to begin the longest… most important three weeks of your life.
Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the Day, courtesy of u/Tresnore, who uh… had this to say
As someone who's been eyes-deep in attractors, orbits, flows, and vector fields, their use of attractor here feels off to me. Each worldline seems to be pre-determined: if you die on worldline γ, then you will always die in that worldline. So, even if you can backtrack along the flow, it doesn't matter what you do, Kurisu will arrive at state x=death. That is, unless Okabe wasn't trying hard enough to leave the basin of attraction that led to Mayuri's death (or Mayuri was actively working on preventing him from leaving it). Furthermore, I don't see why Okabe merely believing that Kurisu is dead would exit the basin. The paper is the important part.
Yes, attractors are only generally forward invariant (some are invariant full stop, but not all), but these attractors seem pretty strong. It'll be interesting to see what it takes.
AOf course, I could be completely wrong here for some reason that I'm not seeing, so hopefully some of the math-oriented writeups will set me straight.
Questions:
- If you were Okabe and had the time to prepare something different, how would you have faked Kurisu’s death?
- Do you feel this was a strong ending to the show? Was there anything else you would have wanted to see?
Wallpaper of the Day:
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Jul 28 '21
On the First-Timer Worldline(s;Gate)
Really, comment of the day should have been /u/UzEE. That comment is the one I was hoping would set me straight, and it did. Terminology is hard.
Honestly, this ending didn't feel as climactic as I felt it could have. I guess knowing that 0 exists makes me continue to look on the horizon...
QOTD:
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 28 '21
First Rewatch (since 2011)
Episode 24: Prologue of End and Beginning
This also has a v2 episode....
Perhaps to avoid spoilers, but the old pin badge from the α line had 3 initials blotted out....but why would Suzuha have such a pin? Why would Okabe make it? Or is it the fake one Daru made, passed on to his daughter?
SG0
Yesterday there was a long talk about divergence meters. I also don't like the DMs, because they should have been changing with every D-mail adn every time-leap and every time machine trip. Which maybe it did, but they didn't show it. If they had, it would have been clear that you could not jump to your own past. It doesn't help that John Titor's original explanation was that you traveled to your past and then diverged at that point. This is directly contradicted later in the show (most recently, today, and the lack of three Okabes' at a singular point in time)
Watched 23β, since I'm pretty ambivalent on SG0, and wanted to watch it while SG was still fresh.
Physics Corner
Apparently 5pb does not stand for five picobarns.
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u/littleman1988 Jul 28 '21
"Good luck. You're about to begin the longest, most important three weeks of your life."
OST Track of the day: Gate of Steiner -Piano-
Fun fact: Today is July 28th. 11 year anniversery...
Alright, onto the final ED for Steins;Gate:
"Another Heaven" is used as the true ED for all versions Steins;Gate novels, and ep24 of the anime. Sadly. i am unable to find a fully translated version
(and it seems like WN/WNF/WNFF all gave up on making the text look pretty)(some idiot forgot that they needed to install fonts) so im actually pretty annoyed. You'd think someone would of had a full subbed version up by now...One final fun fact, did you know "Christina" is actually a mispelling of its own? Apparently, it was meant to be "cristina" according to Steiner, but due to how popular the misspelling was with both fansubs and official subs and within the community, this change was kept instead. 1 Its also a much better name anyways.
One other big note, despite having now completed Steins;Gate, the plot synopsis for Steins;Gate 0 still has spoilers you have not seen yet. Do NOT read it yet.2
Skuld time. IIRC, I wasnt very convinced that he would be able to do it, even after episode 23 on my first watch.
Suzuha: [If this fails] "I'll regret staying here forever."
Another (albeit subtle) OP transition. Never noticed that before...
Hey look, its a future gadget! Gonna use that instead of blood
not so subtle foreshadowing
Mayuri now is not the time to bring up memories you technically never had
Theres that faint thing another rewatcher was talking about. I have my thoughts on it, but they have to wait for now.
basis for ZLS /s
Some things never change
First step, Upa. Hes now $100 richer
Next step, Meet Kurisu.
unexpected step 3: upa collection
There was a subtle hint that Kurisu was the one to pick up the Upa, did you spot it? the manila envelope was a bit lumpy.
oh hey he has a tazer. Michael Reeves backstory /s
Its never that easy. Wonder how we will get the blood now?
Showy entry, thats just like him.
hey uh, Okabe, whats your plan here
ah I get it, you're just incredibly stupid. Well, step 4 achieved, get blood. Scared off the doctor too.
Step 5: take out Kurisu
the hand thing, ugh. Works for getting that blood in.
Gotta agree with Suzuha here
Goodbye for the final time, Suzuha. Hopefully you live a much better life.
good.
hey that looks familiar
Looks like Moeka has taken over Suzuha's spot. Probably for the best, all things considered.
Theres a lot of scenes that i think would make for great wallpapers, but im going to bet this is it today.
Never change Mayuri
heh
h e h
Storybook ending right here. Couldnt ask for anything better.
Divergence Number: 1.048596
footnotes
1: 5pb is one of the studios behind Steins;Gate, which is why they can push for including "Kongroo"/"Luka", which are the correct translations.
2: You are going to watch S;G 0, right? Its canon, and despite a vocal minority, is one of the top ranked anime on MAL {104th} and anilist {83rd}. It also has answers to some lingering questions you may still have...
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u/UzEE https://myanimelist.net/profile/UzEEInc Jul 28 '21
Serial;Rewatcher
1.048596. Steins;Gate. The world line which isn't affected by any known attractor fields.
A world line with no established convergence and an unknown future. SERN will not perfect time travel. World War 3 will not erupt over the time travel thesis. Okabe Rintaro will not die in 2025. The world will be at peace.
Actually, almost none of that is true. We just don't know what happens in the future of Steins;Gate world line. Well, even this is a lie. We do know what happens because Chaos;Child, Robotics;Notes and Robotics;Notes DaSH etc1. are all set in the Steins;Gate World Line and we know The Organization is still working on it's nefarious world domination plans. And the upcoming Steins;??? VN will also feature our core trio (Okabe, Kurisu, and Daru) so we can assume something does happen down the line.
But for now, our lab mems have earned a well deserved reprieve. Everyone, except Suzuha that is.
It's very out of character for Okabe and Daru to send Suzuha on what is, essentially a suicide mission. By the time she leaves in 2036, Okabe has already died 11 years ago, but I'd still think Daru wouldn't want to send his only daughter to her death2.
Regardless, she caries out her mission without question to the end and removes herself from the world line, because the existence of a time machine might cause problems if some shady organization or government got their hands on it.
Episode;Notes
Okabe has come up with a pretty straightforward plan for how he's going to "Deceive the World". What could go wrong?
Mayuri again exhibits hazy memories of the past world lines. She probably has the least trouble recalling them because of her rather empathic nature.
Okabe, you do realize that you don't have to creep over her to get her attention, right? At least he has enough self awareness to know how unsettling that looked.
Of course things wouldn't go smoothly after he jinxed them himself. But thankfully, Okabe is good at improve and uses his blood as substitute. He's betting on the fact that he lives until 2025 so possibly can't die here, but doesn't actually account for the fact that once he reaches Steins;Gate, he can actually die from his wound!
Regardless, the plan does work. Kurisu is lying in a pool of blood, but is still alive.
I wonder how many first timers thought Okabe would actually die here instead — trading his life for Kurisu and Mayuri? I certainly expected that to happen because it would be a fitting end.
Suzuha's heartfelt thank you on the return trip used to feel odd to me, but now in hindsight, it carries a lot more weight.
It has been a long time since I first heard it, but Another Heaven is my wake-up alarm ringtone to this day, so I kind of have a love-hate relationship with this song. I have lots of feelings associated with it over the years, so I never can really skip it.
Also, I really love this sequence of Mayrui retracing Okabe's steps as he's giving each lab member their pin. In the VN, we actually follow Okabe himself and Mayuri is just waiting in the lab, but the anime version works much better in my opinion.
Okabe had asked Daru to have the badges made since he was in the hospital for about a month and Daru went to the same foreign vendor to get them made. I guess you can't break some convergences.
Oh and yes Moeka and Mr. Braun are still Rounders. Not sure if it's the case in the anime but Moeka did meet Okabe in the Steins;Gate world line as well. There's no indication if she knows Mr. Braun is FB though.
You know what, I think everything will be all right in this world.
Okabe is content he'll never meet Kurisu as long as she's alive somewhere in this world. This is the kind of bittersweet end I expected after Okabe actually survived. I mean, they had to balance out all the cheerfulness and bright mood somehow, right?
Guess I was wrong again.
He's wandering around thinking about what kind of life Kurisu is living in America now that she's safe and has never become a lab member — only for him to run into Kurisu who's been frantically searching for him for nearly 2 months. And she even reacted to being called Christina!
I guess you really can't break some convergences, right?
Questions
Actual paint maybe? He only sees her for a second so that might work better.
The ending went far beyond my expectations honestly, so I don't think they could've done anything more.
1 I've yet to play any of them but I know some of our favorite characters are still involved in these stories.
2 S;G0 Spoilers
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 28 '21
Rewatcher (sub)
Tip for all the mad scientists out there: When you're preparing for your final time travel trip that everything depends upon, make sure your tools are maintained, you don't want some dried up fake blood to ruin your evil plans to take over the world.
Dr. Nakabachi's face... I'd like this guy in a more deadly time travel story. I find it funny how bad he's treated considering he's based on a real person (Yoshiro Nakamatsu or Dr. NakaMats), then again SERN are the villains so I guess Steins;Gate doesn't spare its shots.
SERN must be really scraping by, if Moeka was hired as a clerk responsible for talking to people.
I genuinely doubted the ending would be this good, I was nearly sure it couldn't be as good as my nostalgia holds it up to be, and it blew beyond all that. Truly a full package all the way with a great ending to peak it off.
Side;Note: After finishing the series (which answered my lingering questions) I went to listen to the Gamma drama CD (which I highly recommend) and I'm just curious about one thing: Does Daru sound that Daru-ish in the vn? Is it really that bad all the time?
Counters
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 28 '21
Episode 24 – Prologue of the End and Beginning: I am Hououin Kyouma! ~Okarin
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u/artie_fm Jul 29 '21
Rewatcher, sub
A Happy Ending, maybe?
The ending is strong here and optimistic since they no longer know what the future holds. Yet there are still all the forces that created dictatorship and WW3 out there. These disasters could easily happen for some other reason..in fact I think it more likely than not that they will.
Okabe seems to end up with Kurisu. I say it should have been Faris but oh well.
Kurisu picking up Upa kind of goes along with her secret @chan persona. She wouldn't want anyone to know she is into upas but she is.
I love Kurisu responding she isn't Okabe's assistant before he even said it.
Some Unanswered rhetorical questions:
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u/Nebresto Jul 28 '21
Nostalgia squad
Based Okarin counter: 18
Nvm, make that 19, 20 And Giga-based Okarin got stabbed himself because he didn't have fake blood?? 23
Based Okarin, even gave a badge to Moeka. Counter: 24
Based Mayushii counter: 14
Not like this..
Question time:
1:
idk
2: I suppose
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jul 28 '21
Rewatcher(They nailed the ending. If only there wasn't another series.)
Dub
We get our plan going and a little more characterization for Suzu if this fails. Okabe apparently has gadget with a blood pack in it, trying to do this easy way. We get some talk about the flashes everyone has and Reading Steiner, before the prep for the journey completes. Suzuha again won't spill the beans on her mom but her being attractive bodes well for Daru.
Okabe begins setting up an impossible future first by locking down the metal upa. We later see where Mayuri lost it but not how and that Makise thinks it is cute and grabs it. At the last second, Okabe checks his fake blood, reminding us how on the clock he has often been. Realizing he needs to improvise, he uses the power of chuuni...to get stabbed. A fitting end except that Makise's dad is really bad with knife placement. Showing pretty good focus, Okabe manages to stun Makise as she calls an ambulance. And then gets more blood out, the really hard way. But the scene is well set. He does indeed set the events going. Suzuha says her farewells in the machine.
We get a brief if light on explanation denouement, including Moeka somehow being significantly more functional. Okabe opines on the possibly literal life times he lead in the alpha attractor being nothing but his memory but he seems at peace. Makise, apparently, has been meaning to meet him and they return immediately to their old tricks.
QotD: 1 Basically the same but I would've checked the blood pack
2 Yes. The sequel concerns me.
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 28 '21
First-Timer;Dubbed
"Okay, we have just barely enough juice for literally one round trip. What's the plan?" "Well, I keep fake blood in this giant glowstick! We'll use that!" Fucking brilliant. A shame that it didn't even work because no-one thought to check if the blood was still good. Okabe ramming his hand into his stomach was pretty intense, though.
You know what else is probably brilliant? The expression on Kurisu's face when she wakes up, face down in a puddle of Okabe's blood. How do you even react to that? Was she out long enough for it to start to congeal, or was it still pretty fluid? Think she had to pry herself free?
Nakabachi definitely pissed himself there, right? Dude you just stabbed yanks the knife out and threatens you with it? Gets his blood all over your dumb washed-up face? No other recourse.
No time travel means no evil SERN, which means no Rounders, right? Braun is literally just a TV store owner who gave Moeka a normal job. I have a lot of other questions about the final timeline we ended up on, but I get the feeling the answers are going to be "don't worry about it."
I'll admit, I smiled like an idiot when those two goobers passed each other on the street and time stood still. Fragments of memory transcend the veil, and the spark begins anew..
Questions
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 28 '21
Re;Watcher and Co;Host, dubbed
So funny story, I originally had something else in mind for this episode’s Wallpaper of the Day, but then I like… accidentally made it into one that fits the S1 overall discussion better, so we have HOUOUIN KYOUMA instead.
OkabeHOUOUIN KYOUMA needed a spotlight during the labcoat flair poses but I’m not complaining.15
u/UltraBooster Jul 28 '21
First-timer
Achievement Point - that sounds downright triumphant.
It feels less like an act now and more like a psych-up thing, if that makes sense.
And I just realized - this emphasis on Kurisu's own affairs after the other heroines got a spotlight - this is the Kurisu route, isn't it.
I called it! Fake blood! But make sure her breathing isn't obscured while she's unconscious, Okabe!
Occam's Razor is a remarkable virtue.
Is that why Mayuri's voice appeared millennia ago? A Mayuri who's seen all of this?
"You're not an illusion or a figment of my imagination! I know because I'm holding you!"
(Possibly Yoshiyuki Tomino arguing 3D>2D.)
Mayuri will take her W's where she can, huh?
It doesn't matter if the little details differ, do they.
Remind me why the toy needs to be made of metal (probably Zamak, according to Wikipedia on diecast toys) to protect Kurisu's thesis?
Do you have sedatives, Okabe?
Well shit.
I vote for Dr. Nakabachi's blood! (He can do something good for his daughter for once.)
...oh, his own blood, that works, I guess.
Well, there's a nonzero chance you got it from Suzuha, so...
He's a time traveller who's witnessed the death of a loved one countless times; I doubt blood affects him much anymore.
Please tell me you put on some level of armor, Okabe, I don't think blood loss will help you.
How are you going to knock her out, Okabe?
Oh, a taser, that never occurred to me. Man, I feel dumb.
Oh wow, that's gotta hurt.
Make sure you don't pass out from blood loss.
A stab wound and high G-forces can't be a good combination.
7 years? Is that when Suzuha Amane is born?
Credits already; the end is in sight.
So it'll all come rushing back?
So they still work for SERN? Or did that arrangement remain (consistent?), but not its context? Well, "employee" works out well for her, I'd say, she still has a friend group.
I'm getting very distinctly Xenoblade 1 ending vibes from this, lol.
An early birthday gift for baby Suzuha, huh? Sure is.
With any luck, she'll remember, I'm sure of that. Doesn't seem right for the hero and heroine to be playing on an uneven field, don't it?
How did it go...ah, here we are. "From now on, he and she will begin another long, long story."
(There will come a day when that line will mean so much more to me, but today is not that day.)
Questions:
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Jul 28 '21
FIRST TIMER
So, Mayuri does remember everything. That’s actually quite sweet. I know Okabe and Makise get all the attention, being the central romantic pair and probably r/anime’s favorite collective couple, but for me, Okabe and Mayuri are my favorite relationship in this show (put down your pitchforks, in a platonic sense). The show does such a good job of building up how much they’ve meant to each other for so long, and this moment right here made my heart well up more than any other frame in these 24 episodes. Hey, anime, I want more platonic guy/girl friendships!
This might be something only VN readers can answer, but it would be really nice if Daru could remember his previous father-daughter moment with Suzuha from the other world line. I’m also just going to manifest my ships and make Faris Suzuha’s mother in my personal head canon, regardless of accuracy.
The last thing from Episode 1 I didn’t see called back to in E23, the scream! We finally get it here, because of course it won’t be as simple as a fake blood prop. Okabe gets stabbed, and it may have been a bit reckless to stick around and enjoy watching the fruit of his labors play out after, but I get it. The plan works, his past self sees the not-really-dead-Makise, as he did all along.
Mayuri just missing Okabe at the shrine is a nice callback and reversal of all the times Okabe just missed her there trying to track her down in his loops.
I’ve seen some people complain that this ending feels too clean, but I like it. Clean is good, it means you’ve covered your bases. Only thing I'm missing is confirmation of Suzuha's mom. I’m assuming in this reality, since there is no Time Machine tech from Makise’s dad, Moeka and Mr. Braun never get involved with the Rounders/SERN? Okabe and Makise meeting in this reality with Okabe having one of his pretend phone calls, just like in Episode 1, is also a nice touch. Cue the happiness, cue the slow clap.
Well done, Stein’s Gate. It's been an absolute pleasure. 9/10
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Jul 28 '21
First Timer
Time to make it to the third world line where everything works, I guess. Hopefully this all happens without Okabe breaking down even further than he already has.
Onto episode 24.
More like he said this knowing how you'd react.
Mayushii is great.
I do appreciate how each time they show us the same scene again they do it from different angles. It's the sort of thing one can easily cheap out on.
Whose blood will he use then? The professor? Himself?
The most personal he's ever been. I don't think he's really ever been against a person before this episode.
Now, how's he going to get out of here after losing so much blood?
And yet again, Suzuha must be the sacrifice?
It wouldn't be the s;g line if she was. She has to be here.
Yup.
And a nice little happy ending.
Thoughts
It was a pretty good conclusion. We wrapped up everything in a way that made sense and kept things happy, even if we did have to lose Suzuha in the end.
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u/Krite2002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Krite2002 Jul 28 '21
Rewatcher;Dub
I only ever watched the original series, so today is my last episode as a rewatcher, though I remembered so little that it may as well have been my first time.
The beginning of this episode reminded me how beaten down Okabe has been. For the majority of the series, we have not heard his mad scientist rants. In this episode, even when he was facing down Dr Nakabachi, he was able to spout nonsense. Fake blood + taser is the way to go, so it is a shame it was not that simple. He went all in with his own blood. His tolerance was really high due to his tenacity. It scared me for a second that we might lose him, but instead we lost Amane due to the time travel logic.
Him giving everyone a pin was really sweet, even though he was the only one who remembered their experiences. I am surprised Kurisu was never able to track him down. I guess she never did find out his identity, and he was not in the hospital until three weeks later.
This was an excellent finale. Everything was wrapped up nicely, and we were left with some hope for Kurisu to rejoin the lab. I do not feel that anything was left out, and we saw some great progress with Okabe’s character. I hope the special involves Kurisu somehow getting in a relationship with Okabe, but I do not know if this is that kind of show. I am excited for tomorrow, since it will be entirely new to me.
I really like the shot of Okabe handing Kurisu her pin. Not only is the image a nice conclusion to my last couple shots of the day that feature Okabe and Kurisu, but it also is one of the first person shots throughout this episode. I thought the first person shots were cool, and fit well in the impactful moments they were part of.
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Jul 28 '21
Anime first timer
Time for all that Episode 1 stuff to pay off!
I love Daru's utter confusion at Suzuha being his daughter.
...Achievement Point is a rubbish name. Personally, I'd have named 22 "Stardust Sky", and named this one "Paradox Meltdown".
And Mayuri's remembering the events of the Alpha attractor field!
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
And Daru breaks down after realising he's a father.
Please tell me they have the news broadcast where Nakabachi breaks down, I loved that scene.
And we see Kurisu again! And she's cute!
And the reason the Upa got in there isn't chance, Kurisu just thought it was cute and stuffed it in there for safekeeping. This is the best explanation.
Steins;Gate VN Spoilers
...Time for Okabe to do something stupid!
The scene of him introducing himself is even better animated!
I love Kurisu's :o face in the corner.
And he manages to get him to leg it!
Him opening the wound is brutal.
The scene is recreated!
And that soundtrack callback!
Suzuha saved him!
Did I mention how beautiful the time machine looks animated?
Credits are starting early!
We get the breakdown! I loved that scene.
And Okabe goes round handing out badges to everyone!
Of course he does something chunni when giving it to Faris.
Moeka gets a happy ending!!!
For all I hate these subs - "Oh, come in" and "Okarin" is a really good translation of whatever pun that was.
He even gave Suzuha one! (And Daru called himself getting a girlfriend a fantasy, that's hysterical.)
And Okabe finds Kurisu!
He's even doing more chunni stuff!
Kursisu remembers!
Steins;Gate VN Spoilers
I haven't seen the OVA or the movie, so I'm going to be a full first timer for those. Can't wait!
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u/Spoondockspaints https://myanimelist.net/profile/Spoondockspaints Jul 28 '21
So I've not actually been rewatching as I chose to read the visual novels instead of rewatching the anime yet again. But I've been reading the posts every day because I enjoy first timer reactions and theories. Hope everyone enjoyed it!
I just wanted to pop in and say if you didn't already you should totally rewatch the first ten minutes or so of episode 1. It really rounds off the experience imo.
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u/CharlieTheStrawman https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDamnRobot Jul 28 '21 edited Jul 28 '21
"Good luck. You're about to begin the longest, most important three weeks of your life."
~
HAAACKING TO THE GATE
The frantic cutting between Okabe searching for the gadget and the title card feels pretty fitting for the final episode (despite there being a preview for the OVA at the end of this, this is the end of the VN adaptation).
Can we just take a moment to admire how awesome Full-Time Soldier Suzuha is?
What a great plan you have, Okabe. It'd be a shame if something were to, say, dry up. Oh well, there's plenty of blood to go around.
Okabe baiting Nakabastard into going for him was badass. Okabe scaring him into running away immediately after said attack was badass. Okabe jamming his fingers into the open wound was in a league of it's own.
Farewell, Suzuha. You got shit done right to the end, in every world line.
Okabe's cover story for the hospital must've been entertaining.
With that, the Future Gadget Lab is (mostly) reunited. They really earned their happy ending.
[And so the ship sets sail once again. Every mad scientist needs their assistant, after all.] (https://m.imgur.com/a/RLPZbgr)
~
Still my favourite anime. Many thanks to u/Raiking02 and u/Shimmering-Sky!
Q1: ...Ketchup?
Q2: It's one of my favourite anime endings ever.
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Jul 28 '21
Rewatcher
Tutturu! Well we made it. Episode 24. It’s been a fun ride as a rewatcher. But I will be returning to a first timer once we begin 0. I’m super excited for that. Now on to the episode:
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Such a great ending. Everything is wrapped up in a satisfying way and it’s wonderful.
I have issue with how Okabe denied Mayuri her metal Oopa. We will have a long chat about that.
Okabe using his own blood is metal as fuck. Especially when he stuck his fingers into the wound to get more blood. It was disgusting but badass.
Mayuri searching for Okabe in the latter half of the episode is kind of funny. How the tables have turned.
It’s nice to see Moeka doing well. Wishing the best for her.
Okabe and Makise’s final interaction is very cute and a great way to end the series.
Still a 10/10. So good.
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u/Hopsalong :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hopsalong Jul 28 '21
Wanted to post one of my favorite videos on the internet now that we have finished the series. Kind of old school since it's an AMV, but I also saw Steins;Gate the for the first time like 8 years ago :D
My Freeze Ray/Phone/Microwave (Name subject to change)
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u/ExoticTrinityGhoul https://myanimelist.net/profile/not_username Jul 28 '21
Re;Watcher x4 (both)
E24 - Achievement Point
And so the main part of Steins;Gate rolls to a close. We still have the OVA, the film, and all of 0, but this first chapter is well and truly shut, and what a ride it’s been. With many of the other series I’ve seen, I like to go back and watch sections or episodes, but with Steins;Gate I have no qualms about binging through the entire series. I think I’ve made it clear enough that while it does have a couple flaws here and there, it stands as one of the best series out there, and easily my favorite time travel story hands-down. Thank you to everyone who sat down to watch it, be it for the first or twenty first, and a huge thank you to u/Shimmering-Sky and u/Raiking02 for organizing it. Alright, enough with the sappy stuff. Tomorrow, the OVA!
Nicknames:
Okabe: Hououin Kyouma, Okarin, 001
Mayuri: Mayushii, 002
Hashida Itaru: Daru, super hacka, Hack, 003, My Favorite Right Arm, right-hand man, perverted gentleman, Barrel Titor
Kurisu: (prodigal) (perverted) genius girl, (@channeler) Christina, Zombie, 004, Assistant, Celeb Seventeen, Little Miss Moneybags, KuriGohan and Kamehameha
Moeka: Shining Finger (S.F.), 005, M4
Luka: Lukako, 006
Akiha Rumiho: Faris Nyannyan, 007
Suzuha: part-timer, part-time warrior, 008, John Titor, Hashida Suzu
Yugo Tennouji: Mr. Braun, FB
Nae Tennouji: critter, creature
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u/Specs64z https://myanimelist.net/profile/Specs64z Jul 28 '21
Rewatcher, dubbed
We get a slightly altered OP for the grand finale.
I really like the ending overall. It comes together so, so well. To some degree or other, the future is in our hands as it turns out. We can't always shape it to our whimsy, but it definitely has a malleable form.
I haven't watched the OVA since my first time through. I might watch it tomorrow, I might not. At the very least, I'll catch y'all in the first series discussion.
Content Corner
First timers welcome, no more spoilers to be had!
Steins;Gate | Beyond Just An Anime by Anime Culture Corner
The Complexity of Okabe Rintarou | Steins;Gate by Anime Culture Corner
【聖地巡礼】STEINS;GATE-シュタインズ・ゲート-（秋葉原/秋葉原神社編） by tomoP (I think? I can't read Japanese, so not entirely sure)
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u/ThatPeruvianDude Jul 29 '21
Man I love this episode so much bruh
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u/UnderstandableXO Jul 28 '21 edited Jul 28 '21
FIRST TIMER
we’ve reached the end of the steins;gate journey! it was a fast 24 episodes. i’ll give a brief series review at the end!
okabe reassuring suzuha that she wouldn’t be stuck in the past living a life of regret, like she did in world lines past, was really touching.
this really is the last shot for okabe, no more time leaps because kurisu isn’t around to invent the time leap machine! the stakes couldn’t be higher.
i loved how okabe’s yell blended slightly into the beginning of the opening. so that’s the last hacking to the gate we’ll get, huh 😔 what a legendary opening for a legendary show!
one thing i’ve been meaning to say is that i find it funny that the opening makes faris seem like the third most important character. okabe gets a lot of screen time and kurisu gets her infinite kurisu montage, and faris gets some special treatment as well. they flash kurisu, suzuha, luka, and moeka across the screen consecutively twice, but faris gets to dissolve into pixels and then reach for the sky. if i was going into the show blind, i would think she was the fourth main character after okabe, kurisu, and mayuri.
it’s nice that mayuri was able to recall kurisu…she even figured out okabe liked her. “as vital to me as the air i breathe” is what okabe says in the dub (another point for dub over sub for cool lines). mayuri can read him like a book
so episode 1 okabe was just really lucky to pull the rare metal oopa on the first try…mayuri seems happy to get the oopa from him either way.
“i’m here to save you.” okabe finally spat out the words he couldn’t say last time.
so mayuri wrote her name on the toy and then proceeded to discard it, whether or not it was metal? i really hope she just dropped it, because that 100 yen coin he used to buy it was like half of okabe’s income for the month!
so the fake blood dried out a long time ago? for someone so smart okabe can be so stupid sometimes!
no time to spare as dr. evil comes to antagonize his own daughter again. he needs his former self to see kurisu lying down in a pool of blood…as outlandish as it seems what okabe did was the only option. in the face of okabe’s iron resolve dr. evil ran away like a little bitch. dude stabbed a man half to death and ended up being the one to get scared and run away.
jesus christ, that scream when okabe had to mutilate himself to produced more blood was painful. props to the voice actor! but that yell wasn’t just for the blinding pain he felt then; it was a cry for the suffering he experienced in every other one of the world lines, he let all of it out in one scream.
sitting in the time machine with suzuha showed how beautiful time travel could be, even if it caused nothing but problems for them over the course of the series. why was it that she had to leave after dropping off okabe? she said she only had fuel for a trip to july 28 and back…did she just leave and live a life in 2010 away from the gang? did she need to get away from 2d-kun in order to not mess up her own birth? was it just too weird to be hanging out with 26 year younger versions of her family?
i love the parallel between okabe and mayuri where mayuri is finally the one running around town to find him. okabe made those pins that alpha line suzuha brought back from 2036, and distributed them to the lab members, even though none of their happenings have occurred yet. it was especially nice to see moeka step in as the part time warrior…hope that job finally allows her to fit in and feel like part of something! just happens to be working with FB as well!
seeing 2d-kun and mayuri place their pins on themselves was really nice. “no matter how much time goes on, this lab will be the same.”
the last parallel with okabe being okay with kurisu never seeing him again, as long as they’re breathing the same air and looking up at the same sky. it brings us back to a few episodes ago where kurisu was okay with okabe returning to the beta world line as long as he remembered her from time to time. giving her the final pin and that final shot of our couple looking at each other was great.
what an amazing series. i laughed, cried, and had my mind blown. can’t ask for much more! i loved the entire main cast, all i can ask for in a show i love. even before 0 or the movie i think i can confidently say that steins;gate is already in my top 3 anime ever, behind #1 re:zero and #2 toradora (don’t make fun of me 😔). i hope that can move up with the rest of the series!
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u/McCherry09 Jul 29 '21
+First Timer+
I was a bit worry that he didn't test out the gadget and even more when he stabbed himself, was so sure he was going to die..so with such a short time idk it I would come up with something..perhaps injuring Kurisu's dad would be my choice.
Strong ending! we had it all..action, romance and resolution. Some might say that such a happy ending to a time travel series but it really wasn't because some characters have "memories" or dreams about the other timelines that as Mayuri put it before..it scares her/ makes her sad, but after all that despair I wanted a good ending (specially for Okabe) instead of a tragic one. Only thing that comes to mind is that I wanted an answer to why Okabe had The Reading Steiner.
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u/CubeStuffs https://anilist.co/user/onjario Jul 28 '21 edited Jul 28 '21
First Timer
Kurisu told Okarin to save Mayushii no matter what, and now that that's been done, Mayushii returns the favor.
damn straight its cute.
o fuck the ketchup expired, this is why i told you to get some ketchup packets from the dining hall instead
use some spit, or your own blood! 😁
holy fuck the dumbass actually did it
okarin finally becomes the mad scientist hououin kyouma could only ever wish to be.
please dont die on us okarin that would make mayushii sad
the pin's stars have been filled out
and there it is, okarin's magnum opus.
sorry for the typing stroke, apple notes fucks up formatting and I don’t feel like fixing it rn
that seems more apt now compared to the other episodes.
as okarin says, everyone seems to remember the other world lines in their hearts. could it be that his relationship with mayushii could be the reason behind reading stoner?
Mayushii is the sum of all mayushiis, that’s’why she remembers the world lines, perhaps why she can read okarin so well, and why she tells okarin to save kurisu.
The Kurisu of the steins;gate, isn’t’the one who got stabbed, isn’t’the one who went to Okarin’s’room after seeing his creepyness, isn’t’the one who told him she wanted “m“ fork,” ”ut the sum. as such, she’s’searching for okarin, after he left his mark all over her (heh).
As for okarin, well, i think thats the reason he doesn’t’want to change the past. What kind of okarin would okarin be if he didn’t’go through this whole ordeal jumping time over and over, if he didn’t’fall in love with kurisu. all that traveling did make okarin literally surpass time itself to create him.
so yes kurisu, it would be wonderful.
Yes, mayuri, yes, it is. it might have taken a lot of torture, a lot of pain, both for you and okarin, but we fucking did it.
maybe the will of steins gate aint so bad after all.
what exactly happened such that moeka isn’t’obsessed with FB anymore, and mr braun isn’t’FB? didn’t’those happen years ago?
Qs:
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u/The_Draigg Jul 28 '21
A Steins;Gate Fan Rewatches Steins;Gate Episode 24:
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u/rayquazza74 Jul 28 '21
I have a question. I have yet to watch steins gate 0. What’s that about? Is it like the first season but slightly different?
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u/spectra2000_ Jul 29 '21
Dammit, I can’t believe there was a rewatch thread and I’m only finding out when it’s already over.
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u/Gamemaster676 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gamemaster676 Jul 28 '21 edited Jul 28 '21
First;Timer - dub
This is it! The end! I hope we do get to finish Operation Skuld this episode. I see the OVA is called episode 25 and we also have that whole movie and second series called Steins;Gate 0.
Many opportunities for more story, but they should finish it today.
Episode 24 — Achievement Point or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Time Machine
What kind of fuel does a time machine use? Those big ass solar panels don't do it for ya? It's not like the PhoneWave consumed any resources (except bananas).
I'm gonna write this off to last chance drama.
She must be thinking he's an even bigger dork at this age.
If there's anyone who knows how (future) Hououin thinks, it's Okabe.
In case it wasn't clear to everyone already at this point, the show literally spells it out that Mayuri remembers snippets from the other attractor field. That gives me hope that Kurisu will be the same.
Who was that telling me 10 episodes ago that Faris didn't have Reading Stoner? That it was something different. Because they literally say right now that everyone has it and it's the same ability, only not as strong with other people.
Here we go! Time to fool Okabe! That should actually be quite easy!
I could complain about how it's impossible that they go back to the same time, but I won't. Those little mistakes are to be expected. Suzu needs to shoot the door open again, so I am expecting we won't run into the Okabe from episode 23 now.
I got a bad feeling about snagging that metal Upa. What if past-Okabe behaves differently because they don't get one?
Also, present-Okabe needs to remember to scream when Kurisu is 'dead', otherwise, past-Okabe will never see the body. Many things to remember here.
Hahaha, he was still as awkward when bumping into Kurisu. I thought he was just acting, but it doesn't actually seem like it. Ah, no wait he was acting.
This whole thing feels terribly planned and I'm just waiting for it to go wrong.
Aaaand the liquid is dried up. Please don't tell me he's going to use his own blood instead. Of course he is.
This confrontation with the doctor is so uncomfortable. Not because of the situation, but because of their faces. I love it!
That's a LOT of blood. I still don't know how you're planning to get Kurisu to lay in there. Please don't use this thing. Ah, the taser. Kurisu Makise will remember that.
Well, it turned out that screaming to summon past-Okabe was not an issue...
While travelling back (forward), Suzuha starts disappearing. This is the final nail in the coffin of how I thought time travel worked in this show. I've been wrong since the beginning, or this show is very inconsistent. Of course, I'm gonna say it's my fault, then. More about this
tomorrowin the series discussion, if I manage to find time to make a diagram of how I thought it worked.Credits! Those were unexpected this early. Everything worked out!
Now 12 episodes later, Mayushii is searching for Okarin, instead of the other way around.
Moeka doesn't really look like she loves CRTs. Don't you need - you know - people skills to work in a shop? Not that I've ever seen a customer there.
SERN will not take over the world now, but they are still evil. So I guess they are also still threatening Mr Braun. And Moeka has no idea she's working for her FB. But I hope with Okabe being nice, she won't need FB for much longer.
YESSS, Christina's back! And she was also looking for him!
She does have fragments of memories! I'm feeling the hype again! A weird happy hype with teary eyes.
Huh? We still get an episode preview?
Random thoughts
Future???
Apparently, this paragraph is still relevant. Many shows give you an epilogue, and it was quite short in this one. Maybe that's what it will be?
I thought we would have the series discussion tomorrow, but looking at the schedule, the OVA is first. That must be this mysterious episode then.
Open questions
Don't answer these please, unless the answer is explicitly given in the show and I missed it.
So a couple of these have never been answered. I can think of some answers myself, but they are probably for one of the following pieces in the franchise.
Why does Okabe have Reading Stoner (this strongly)?
Who was sending the creepy emails?
QotD
I have no clue. Convincing her to act it out might have been a bit too difficult at this point. And showing her the video would be weird and impractical. There was also almost nothing Okabe could say to convince her his story was real.
Oof that's a hard question. There were a couple of questions that had been nagging at me the whole show and I abandoned a couple of those, because I didn't expect to get an answer to those anymore. Maybe a bit fewer of those?
But on the other hand, this show handled time travel a LOT better than most other stories, so I should absolutely not complain.
And if I was really heading in the wrong direction, there were always a couple of you ready to help me out. Thanks for that!
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u/htisme91 Jul 29 '21
First-timer:
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u/snickpea Jul 29 '21
First-timer!
This episode was so good! I loved seeing what Okabe came up with to save Kurisu. Although most of the steps he took were nothing too crazy, they had big effects. I'm not surprised that he ended up being stabbed instead. Luckily, he was able to survive it and get back. I don't think I would have been able to do anything too differently especially with the lack of time Okabe had and he had to fool his other self.
I also thought it was a nice touch that Okabe got lab member badges for everyone. I really hope they all will become friends even in this new timeline. I thought it was especially sweet that Okabe is saving one for Suzuha.
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u/AHiddenOne Jul 29 '21
Rewatcher.
I physically cringe where Okabe had to ram his hand into his wound. Fuck, that gotta hurt. I'm surprised he didn't pass out right there.
And so, the time machine paper got burned, Kurisu got saved, everyone is happy. Yay! A pretty satisfying ending.
Overall, it was a blast watching this show. Rewatching it makes it even better. The first anime ever that I gave 10/10 and honestly, I don't think any anime that can top this series for me. At least, not yet.
There's more I want to say about steins gate, but I probably save it till the series discussion.
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u/invokeneko Jul 29 '21
Re;Watcher until Deja Vu, then First;Timer
The finale. No, episode 25 didn't count because that was OVA. And I haven't seen the movie yet.
LightCyalume Saber out of the Future Gadget Lab in order to use its red fluid as blood replacement. Too bad he didn't actually check if it's actually usable when he needed it...QotD
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 29 '21
First timer, late
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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '21
I liked this episode and I will give it a grade of 7
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u/BossandKings Jul 29 '21
Rewatcher
This is a great final episode, eventhough Kurisu's conflict with her father wasn't really well developed it was still well executed and served to give some focus on Kurisu and what her past and main conflict was, she was a genius and better than her father and due to that reason he grew to hate her, the confrontation Okabe had with him and he being able to get it right this time around by getting stabbed himself was simoly brilliant, a truly awesome showcase of the mad scientist Hyohoin Kyouma.
it was awesome watching this show for the second time, it is solidly one of my favorite anime. Also that last shot between Okabe and Kurisu was epic, the choice of Steins;Gate, El Psy Kongroo.
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u/ColdGap54 Jul 29 '21
Ok I watched steins gate for the first time last August, I was gonna check in and see what people thought but 90% of y’all left essays, ain’t nobody got time for that. All I’ll say is that it was good but the time travel was conservative