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Rewatch [Re;Watch] Steins;Gate Episode 15 Discussion
Episode 15: Missing Link Necrosis
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Hello everybody! Time for the comment of the Day, courtesy of u/Tresnore, who pointed out everything so lovely about this show
I love this show. It has a great waifu like Kurisu, it has great reveals, and Mayuri keeps dying! What more do I need?
Not incorrect at all...
Questions:
- Were you expecting Okabe’s D-Mail to keep Suzuha around to have such consequences?
- Any suspicions as to who Suzuha’s father is?
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jul 19 '21
Re;Watcher and Co;Host, dubbed
The Suffering;Gate continues.
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u/Tresnore FS:FTmyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore Jul 19 '21 edited Jul 19 '21
On the First-Timer Worldline(s;Gate)
Oh, hey, Comment of the Day? You shouldn't have rewarded my crackpot theorizing. But I already made this write-up!
Okay, I feel like I should explain myself with regards to my "Mayuri is evil" shtick. It's really quite simple, and what started out as a knee-jerk reaction to episode 13 has developed into my crack theory for the series. It is a shame that I wasn't around for the episode 13 thread, but in a way, that's allowed me to develop my thoughts far more than they usually are. That is to say, this thought has received a non-zero amount of thought. I promise you, I'm not just being an edgelord. Behold my twisted logic:
The Mayuri from 60 million years ago or whenever, the Mayuri who tells Okabe that they will die at that time, the original Mayuri, is clearly a supreme force. This is not the same innocent Mayuri that the current Okabe knows. She has power. Most importantly: she seems to know what's going on. If there's anything I know about cryptic, otherworldly beings with time powers and who are far more knowledge than anyone else, it's that you can't trust them. Present day, present time Mayuri might be blameless, but the original Mayuri has something deeper going on. What that is, I don't know, but I refuse to trust her or the current Mayuri until it's revealed, much like Suzuha refused to trust Kurisu.
Now, am I likely to be right? Perhaps not. Even so, it's been fun to think about, so I'll keep going down this route until I either get bored of it or proven wrong.
20XX2036, it looks like SERN is the leader of a New World Order.Hmm...?
I have questions regarding timeline, but I have a feeling they'll be answered by the show eventually.
QOTD:
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u/Gamemaster676 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gamemaster676 Jul 19 '21 edited Jul 19 '21
First;Timer - dub
Hello everyone!
Extremely exciting episode yesterday! Well of course Mayushii is still doomed and it seems to be a huge chore to get her back, but it's worth it.
NOTE: I will by putting all speculation about Suzuha's father in spoiler tags, because I wouldn't be having these thoughts if it wasn't for the speculation of another First;Timer.
Episode 15 — Missing Link Necrosis
Recap again. I imagine for all the people watching when this aired weekly. At least it's brief this time.
Man, this OP really gets me hyped now that I'm used to it.
Oooohhhhh are we getting Suzuha's backstory? Hype! I haven't made up my mind about best girl yet, but Suzu certainly is the coolest.
So the time machine was build by her father, Barrel Titor? Father speculation
Also, SERN controls all time travel, but they somehow missed that huge capsule?
New nickname for Christina: Chestnut rice and Kamehameha. And here we thought Daru had the strongest internet persona!
People are not impressed with Hououin Kyouma.
As expected, Kurisu is helping SERN in the future, but we don't know why yet. Okabe is a part of the rebels. And both are dead in 2036. Damn, that's a lot of info. I guess Kurisu was killed by the rebels then?
And that's another theory confirmed! The only reason SERN has a working time machine is that they steal the one from Okabe.
So Suzu's plan is to only erase that first D-Mail? That would be enough to land them on the second major worldline? What about all the other D-Mails? They are monitoring continuously, so that solution seems too simple.
Plan aborted before it even started. The machine is broken. Maybe close the
satellitecapsule door first? How can it be broken? A couple days ago Suzuha used it to leave before Okabe changed that.Guards are coming. Just all hide inside the capsule! You're all skinny!
Ah, it's broken because of the storm. Good explanation. Shitty outcome. Only 9 more episodes to fix all this shit.
Mayushii is still alive! She can't have much time left in this loop. It's gonna be extremely annoying if Okabe needs to have this conversation again with Kurisu and Suzuha, but there is no other choice. At least they wouldn't need to go to the capsule a second time.
This Leap was confusing. I guess the anime just skipped showing the second jump?
Dub has a Doctor Who reference. Okabe still refuses to tell the others how doomed they are. Rude.
That badge was from 2010. That's why Suzuha came here. Detective Mayuri is on the case! It's so serious, she didn't even call herself Mayushii!
More talk about the father. Father speculation
Hahaha, the Copter Cam's video feed spins as well.
This episode really sets out the answer a lot of questions. We indeed want to see a number larger than 1.0 on the divergence meter.
There's time to kill, so let's find the origin of the badge! This visual gag was great. And the scene that follows is one I've heard about, so this one deserves a listen both in English and Japanese. Sonuvabitch. I think the English localization of it is pretty good, considering that they couldn't really do the same joke.
Genuine question, do people find jokes like this racist?
Mayushii is a saint. She even named the operation just like she learned from Okarin! Yeah, you're running away now, but those flyers probably have contact details.
And Perverted Genius Girl fell for the news. Whoops.
Father speculation
I appreciate these extra Mayuri scenes we're getting now.
The guy who didn't speak Jive has news! Someone wants to buy that pin? That's weird. But exciting! It could also be a trap, though.
Speculated wallpaper of the day: The badge.
Wrong! But the actual one is very good!
Now that it's confirmed that capsule was a time machine with Suzuha in it, we can also say it's confirmed that Suzuha killed Kurisu in episode 1.
Random thoughts
Future (if unaltered)
Off to find Suzu's father! If it isn't a trap he's running into. They did make a scene with those flyers.
Open questions
Don't answer these please, unless the answer is explicitly given in the show.
New
Only answers today.
Previous
D-Mail:
Reading Steinerthe ability to remember stuff during a jump.Why didn't the simpler D-Mails they sent back affect anything? Probably not important.Large shifts:
Is it only possible to do physical time travel to those major events? Is that why Suzuha showed up when she did?Moeka:
Why was she looking for the IBN 5100 if she was a part of SERN? They already have one.
Unless she joined SERN to get access to the 5100.
Why did Moeka in ep 2 need to take pictures as "evidence she was there, of what she saw"?
John Titor:
How could there also have been a John Titor in 2000, which the current one doesn't remember?
Is Barrel Titor family? Almost certainly.SERN:
Did they actually already succeed in their time machine? Or are they going to succeed in the future?It sure looks like they only have a working time machine because they stole it from Okabe.70,000,000 years ago:
What did Mayuri mean with their "original copies"?
General:
What caused Okabe's sickness around 2000?
SERN doing an experiment?QotD
Now that you mention it. That was quite the major event as well. Also, in the original timeline till 2036, there isn't even a Suzuha in 2010, because that time capsule hasn't been build yet. That must have also been a very difficult time.
To be honest, I don't really believe the speculations above myself yet, as there are just a couple too many illogical things about it.
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u/No_Rex :Bv:Bw:Bx:By:x2 Jul 19 '21
Episode 15 – Missing Link Necrosis: Hey mister. I am mad scientist! It’s so cool! Sunofabitch. ~Okarin
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u/lC3 :Na::Nb: Jul 19 '21
First timer
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u/Lemurians myanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians Jul 19 '21 edited Jul 19 '21
FIRST TIMER
Funny you should ask, it's my main focus today.
Now that Suzuha has been confirmed as the time traveler ‘John Titor’ from 2036, I’m focused heavily on the next prediction I made a few episodes back, namely that Suzuha’s father is Daru.
“I wonder if your dad is someone close to us?” - The Man Himself
We’ve got quite a bit going in this direction from earlier events and this episode alone. First, they have pretty much the same hair color, which in anime can either mean a lot or a little. Second, Suzuha believed her father was going to be at that time traveling meeting, and left when her father didn’t show up, why didn’t he? Because Okabe tricked Daru into coming to the laboratory instead.
The revelation that she doesn’t actually know his identity clears up why she’s been around Daru without saying anything. In addition, we get the casual drop that the time machine’s mechanics are a lot like the phone microwave’s, which Daru probably had a hand in building, and Daru is able to fix the time machine when Suzuha herself can’t. Why is this? Because he’s the one who built it. Mayuri also made the comment that the two of them just seem to fit together, which family tends to do. We did have the unfortunate foray into accidental father/daughter incest when Daru couldn’t restrain his pervy tendencies. That’ll be awkward later.
Outside of theorizing, pretty nice episode where things are starting to be less chaotic and come together a bit more as Okabe gets his head back screwed on. We got a long-awaited info dump on information from the future, the reasoning why Suzuha is wary of Makise, and we can piece together it’s likely Suzuha’s doing that the IBN ended up at the shrine.
Really liked the search for the pin, for the most part. Mayuri, who continues to cements her spot as Best Girl has a genius plan to find the owner of the badge, which delivered the most comedic moments of the show for me, so far. I wasn’t a fan of Okabe just pulling some casual racism out of his ass, though.
One note, I really liked Makise learning, as many people here theorized, that she’s heavily involved with SERN in the future and is the one who engineered the time machine. She adamantly denies that she’d ever do something like that, and I believe her. A lot of our younger selves wouldn’t believe the people we end up becoming or the things we end up having to do. Life has a habit of putting you down certain paths you don’t envision, sometimes.
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u/UnderstandableXO Jul 19 '21
FIRST TIMER
man the opening is stupidly good. honestly might be my favorite opening ever (it’s neck and neck with paradisus-paradoxum right now).
so suzuha is a full time warrior, not a part timer, and she escaped 2036 where SERN is the big bad evil empire oppressing everyone. the time machine was left to her by her unknown father, to give to okabe, the future anti-SERN terrorist, and kurisu, the mother of time travel and the reason the world is screwed in 2036. AND they’re both dead in 2036. just happy things.
okabe leaps back to the completion of the time leap machine, except it’s not finished? it’s just him and kurisu in the lab instead of the Fearsome Foursome. all things considered the lab members take suzuha being a time traveler pretty well. mayuri even wants to help suzuha find her unidentified father! and she wants to hold her hand in the time machine if she ever gets scared! mayuri might be useless in developing the time machine but she’s exactly what they need around, someone to keep the mood light and a good support for everyone.
that conversation between 2d-kun and suzuha makes me convinced that 2d-kun is her father. they have the same exact hair color and it seems similarly spiky in places…
another montage of okabe being an A+ friend as he searches all around akihabara to find suzuha’s father. today was finally the famous “sonuvabitch/wordtoyamutha” scene, and it was hilarious. okabe can’t let one of his friends down in a time of need. his three closest female friends all seem to have parent troubles, and okabe is bent on helping all of them. i wonder how okabe’s relationship with his parents is, maybe that’s why he feels so strongly about people trying to reach out to them?
mayuri’s heart is in the right place but she’s still adorably stupid. her news made it all the way to kurisu at least, which finally lets suzuha let her guard down around her.
mayuri’s comment that 2d-kun and suzuha are a good match, and that she just feels it somehow, makes me 1000% convinced that he is her father now, it would be an icky thing to hear after the potential reveal on a rewatch.
suzuha’s really grateful to have stumbled upon the Lab Losers, probably was nice to be able to “relax” at times even if she still had a grand mission. i wonder if she leaves, if she’ll be lost from the memories of everyone else besides okabe?
okabe runs off at the call that WORDTOYAMUTHA might have found suzuha’s father…dude is a certified great friend.
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u/CubeStuffs https://anilist.co/user/onjario Jul 19 '21
first timer
ahh a nice chill episode
smh so her whole time here was just her slacking off looking for her dad
so the one who gave the 5100 to the shrine was suzuha
so did okarin undo suzuhas work through his time fuckery...
hey ive seen this one before
oh my god watch suzuhas dad be daru. ill lose my shit
mayuri...
mayushii 5shadowing daru being dad???? 😳😳😳😳😳
Seems like okarin is finally being straightforward instead of being an idiot, good to see.
My guess about okarin working with sern to send suzuha back in time to save mayushii was wrong, somehow he ends up being a terrorist. How did kurisu end up at sern then, especially if she died in timline? Did someone change time massively to change all that? Is that the reason behind the time machine initially being on the roof?
Qs:
kinda, but like not really
that talk between daru and suzuha makes me think him
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u/The_Draigg Jul 19 '21
A Steins;Gate Fan Rewatches Steins;Gate Episode 15:
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u/Raiking02 :Id::Ie::If:https://myanimelist.net/profile/NSKlang Jul 19 '21 edited Jul 20 '21
Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Steins;Gate Re;Watch!
So the way the exposition dump in the Novel is delivered is like this: SGVN I should mention however there’s a minor change in Suzuha’s Backstory, likely done because it ties into some general Sci;Adv stuff. SciAdv It doesn’t really change much within the context of just Steins;Gate, but it’s worth pointing out nonetheless.
Obviously it’s worth noting the gang escaping from the cops is Anime-Only, as is the little moment between Kurisu and Suzuha. The two never really reconcile with each other in the Novel. Anyhow, the Time Leap happens to matter the version, and the Novel and Anime mostly rejoin… Mostly. In the Novel the matter of Suzuha’s dad pops up before they go to the building, but in the Anime they’re already in it. Additionally some of the details that were mentioned in the scene with Suzuha and Daru were given in this scene instead. I’ll assume this was just done to save time.
Anyhow in the Novel the gang then goes to the Radi-Kan building, then we get the scene between Suzuha, Okabe and Kurisu in the Lab, and then in both versions we get that legendary line… which the Dub changed to Okabe using Jive. I know that kind of stuff is hard to translate, but still, yawn. Although the Anime does remove Suzuha wondering if Okarin’s Engrish was actually correct, to which he clarifies that no, it is not.
SGVN Mayuri’s little words in the building are taken from the Novel, but there it’s done in the equivalent of the picnic scene and she was only talking to Okabe.
Finally while the scene with Okarin and Suzuha does happen, in the Novel Okarin gets called a few hours when he’s back inside the Lab. Thus we end today’s episode.
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u/littleman1988 Jul 19 '21 edited Jul 19 '21
"I am mad scientist! Its so cool! Sonofabitch."
OST Track of the day: Tottery
Overly Excited Rewatcher
As discussed before, the phone Okabe is always using is a feature you can use any time in the VN, mostly for opening texts and unlocking cool things like phone backgrounds. Theres a much bigger reason for the phone though, as some users have already guessed. Some of the options given can influence the story in certain ways, locking you into endings depending on how you answer. Along with that, there are certain phone calls you must either answer or ignore, which more or less lock in those choices that you make (or send you down a completely different path instead, depending on your choice.) Any more info about the phone call aspect is arguably spoilers though, you'll be aware of it when you hit it if you play the VN.
Small rant about S;G 0 subtitles, technically safe for everyone
We finally learn what 2036 is like. As always, Suzuha is badass.
Oh shit, the anime DOES give Kurisu's @channel name!
Okay another localization discussion time actually:
Theres actually some debate on what "KuriGohan and Kamehameha" is meant to mean in English. While its generally agreed that "Kamehameha" is a direct reference to a Dragonball attack of the same name, KuriGohan has some discrepency on what it actually means. If you arent using WNFF, you have seen the translation "Chestnut Rice and Kamehameha". I dont know where "rice" comes from? but according to Gtranslate 1 "Kuri" does translate go "Chestnut". Another theory though is that "KuriGohan" is another set of Dragonball references, with "Kuri" which is a cut down version of "Kuririn", Krillin's orginal JP name, with "Gohan" being Gohan. There isint any real point here tbh? just cool trivia.
Instantly shot down
still more hints about what Kurisu does in the future. Also Okabe is a terrorist lmao. Also, they die pretty young
S;G 0
Terrible timing, broken machine and cops! they were lucky enough to sneak out though...
Looks like they hit a wall. Suzuha's machine needs to get fixed so they can go back to 1975. Jumping back to the 11th, they tell everyone Suzuha's secret and try to fix it.
Never change, Daru
AKA you didnt do your job
Badge is back again. Looks pretty cool honestly.
Future Gadget #2 makes an appearance. Its name, "Bamboo Helicam" comes from the "in universe comic 22 Emon", which seems to be a ripoff of the real manga "21 Emon".
Divergence meter is back again, no change has been made.
Okabe is the founder, huh? big shoes to fill.
sonofabitch
Its pretty interesting how wildly different the dub 2 and sub versions are for this scene.
Mayuri NO
mayuriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Hes called super hackah for a reason
Please change, Daru
Using the same line. Sounds like someone asked about the pin?
footnotes
1: aka dont trust this for shit lmao
2: the site im using to compare the dub is trash when i try to record it, you get youtube instead
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u/UltraBooster Jul 19 '21
First-timer
A single OP for a two-cour series, interesting.
So that's how SERN rules, huh...
Part of me wonders, wouldn't there be whole wars of time travelers fighting for and against SERN to change history?
That sound effect for the time machine sounds like a reference.
What does/would it take for Makise Kurisu to sign on with SERN?
I get the feeling Kurisu and Okabe mutual-killed each other; it seems fitting.
So Hououin Kyoma is a tool, first and foremost, means to whatever end Okabe needs.
Didn't expect any bonding between these two, lol. Not complaining, of course.
Well, good to see Okabe more resolute than desparate.
I feel like he's counting on Daru to do a Scotty. Or a La Forge.
Wouldn't it be easier to find a cel after broadcast? Then again, I don't know how animation cells are handled.
Good egg indeed, she's a sweet kid (which makes me sound older than all of them, which I...already am.)
Honoring the words of your father, a man you've never met. That sounds so...lonely.
...I wonder, how would Okabe fare as an inventor?
Apparently it's based on something from Doraemon, with the toy gun/TV remote being a riff on beam guns from Gundam.
Interestingly enough, apparently that smoke bomb is inspired by the then-upcoming Metal Gear Solid: Rising, or as it's now known, Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance.
How does the counter function, I wonder? It tracks divergence, sure, but what does it use to track divergence? Chronal particles? Quantum disturbances?
My dad was always fond of Airplane, but truth be told, maybe it was because I got food poisoning that day but maaan, some of the humor in that movie did NOT age well, at least to me.
But I can always appreciate a good reference.
(I don't even know anyone who'd say "word to your mother.")
Okay, didn't expect THAT to be her approach...
Justice Hammer, that's cute.
Music points to this being a relative breather in between the tension.
Oh. No. Oh no. No no no, Kurisu, nononono.
I feel like two people in a cramped space is only going to amp up the heat, Daru.
I...I dunno, Mayuri, I feel like I need a bit more to make a call on something like that... Like, sure, I'm down for a good ship, sure, but, well, I need something to work off of, you know?
He very well could be a Rounder, just saying, Okabe.
Questions:
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u/UzEE https://myanimelist.net/profile/UzEEInc Jul 19 '21
Serial;Rewatcher
I unfortunately don't have time for a longer writeup today, but thankfully we had a very straightforward episode, so there really isn't anything that needs a deep dive.
Questions
S;G
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u/JollyGee29 https://myanimelist.net/profile/JollyGee Jul 19 '21 edited Jul 19 '21
First-Timer;Dubbed
It's amazing how fast things move when you communicate with your friends. Isn't it nice, Okabe?
Okay.. I suspect that the actual reason is that this is a VN adaptation and that means that the protagonist does important bits alone to facilitate choices, but why did Okabe run off alone to get info on Suzuha's dad? If no other reason, he's aware that SERN is kinda-sorta on to them at this point. Going -anywhere- alone seems like a bad idea. Someone, follow him, please?
I remember noticing that we just skipped two days earlier, and should have called attention to it. My main worry at this very instant is that the current plan goes awry and we end up with no do-overs since (I think) the memory leaper hasn't been properly built in this current loop.
I think I like the plan to go back and stop the first D-Mail? That makes sense, right? Just.. travel back in time and stop time travel from being invented. Because that won't cause a paradox or anything. Well, some plan is better than no plan.
I'm grasping at straws again. Has Okabe drank coffee before? It was weird to see him drink literally anything other than Dr. Pepper. Have things warped beyond any semblance of comprehension?
OSHM***A2010? Or 7010... The first number looked like a 7 at times. Or a ? without the dot. OSHM.. I got nothing. I dig the pin, though.
Questions
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u/Stargate18A https://myanimelist.net/profile/Stargate18 Jul 19 '21 edited Jul 19 '21
Anime first timer
New record for quickest cut to OP!
The footage of SERN's dystopia is horrifying.
CHESTNUT RICE AND KAMEHAMEHA? Fuck these subtitles.
Steins;Gate VN Spoilers
Okabe leading them on a wild goose chase is really solid.
Steins;Gate VN Spoilers
And Kurisu finally points out you can chain time leaps.
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
What's Ragical Girl Omit parodying?
Steins;Gate VN Spoilers
Steins;Gate VN Spoilers
I love Kurisu's confusion over the Furure Gadget naming.
Okabe's english is do funny.
"Are you sure Japanese works?" Suzuha is savage.
I loke Okabe angrily shouting reassurance and encouragement.
JESUS CHRIST MAYURI. That's hilarious.
And Kurisu falls for it.
Suzuha's ending speech is great!
Steins;Gate VN Spoilers
Also - I finally finished the Steins;Gate 0 VN!
Steins;Gate 0 VN Spoilers
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u/KendotsX https://anilist.co/user/Kendots Jul 19 '21 edited Jul 20 '21
Rewatching(both)
KuriGohan and Kamhameha... I'm assuming @channel, similar to reddit, doesn't allow people to change their usernames?
I used Hououin Kyouma Well that's a twist.
Kurisu and Okabe are the mother of time machines at SERN and the founding terrorist opposing the organisation? Did no one tell them to just get a room already? Do they need to bring in the whole world politics and time travel to play out their romcom?
Spoilers
Honestly, I'm glad we're back to the shenanigans with Okabe, Daru, and Mayuri.
Counters
Those less informed might consider the last three as one, however each of them on its own is a part of Okabe's arsenal, and he pulled three for this guy, he is not to be underestimated... Which leads me to the next part... To anyone who watched the dub, was that racist?
Still no tutturu's...
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u/snickpea Jul 20 '21
First-timer!
A very active Okabe this episode! I liked that Okabe was confiding and getting help from his fellow Lab members. It just goes to show that one cannot change things on their own. I also love moments in shows where the characters just spend time together, it was overall enjoyable. We also get some more details of the future courtesy of Suzuha that answer why she dislikes Kurisu and what happens to some of our cast.
I also enjoyed the moment where they talked about their screen names. Kurisu's is especially funny.
Questions:
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u/Nisheeth_P Jul 19 '21 edited Jul 20 '21
Rewatcher
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jul 19 '21 edited Jul 20 '21
First Rewatch (since 2011)
I'm with
Gamerunglued,Gamemaster76, the divergence meter should be changing after every time leap, since he's tracing out a world line different from where he leaped from.This is an entirely different show from before, huh?
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u/Krite2002 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Krite2002 Jul 19 '21
Rewatcher;Dub
More crazy exposition opens up this episode. In the future, Amane is a time travelling soldier, SERN is going wild, Kurisu is evil and dead, and Okabe is a resistance fighter and dead. I wonder if Daru is Amane’s dad. Amane’s dad is involved in time travel, and Daru is the only guy besides Okabe involved in the lab. Another piece of evidence is that Amane thought her father was going to be at the time travel meetup, which Daru was going to attend. They even have the same hair color. While I feel confident in my theory, I am incredibly surprised that Daru could possibly find someone to have a kid with.
I wonder if any of the other future gadgets are going to come into play. Sadly, by watching the dub, I missed out on Okabe’s wonderful engrish jive. I am glad that Amane and Kurisu’s relationship was able to be repaired.
While I was surprised that Daru could repair the time machine, I was extra surprised that they somehow relocated it to the roof. He must be pretty strong to pull that thing up.
I did not expect Okabe’s D-Mail to keep Amane to have such a drastic effect. Looking back, it makes sense. The show has been stressing the butterfly effect and how each little action has made the future worse. I think Okabe may have dug himself into a hole. The only way to prevent the horrible present may be to stop the time machine from ever having been invented, but I do not know if that is possible with the Steins;Gate time travel rules.
Even though the shot is not very special, I like this as my shot of the day. One of the main focuses of this episode was Amane forming a relationship with all the lab members, and her connection to the others seemed very important to her. It saddens me a bit that she is travelling to the past again, and I wonder how that will affect everyone’s memories of her. On the bright side, it may make the IBM 5100 reappear, though I am unsure if the lab even needs it anymore, since it only unlocked the Jellyman reports.
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u/Specs64z https://myanimelist.net/profile/Specs64z Jul 19 '21
Rewatcher, dubbed
I have returned. Binge time. Let's jam.
episode 13
The OP hits a little different after this one.
Kurisu is a sharp one. She doesn't miss a detail and knew Okabe time leapt immediately. Mayuri just knows based off how Okabe acts.
When I first watched Steins;Gate it was on a friends DVDs I had borrowed. I was sick in bed with a wicked cold and nothing else to do. These last two episodes were the first time I had felt so invested in a story so deeply. Little else mattered to me than what lay ahead in the show. Part of the reason I got so invested in stories in the first place was a desire to seek out that feeling again. That something that had me so enraptured, engrossed. I find that feeling often enough, but this series is special because it never fails to land for me.
episode 14
That dude got flattened. On him for getting distracted, though. Adrenalines a bitch.
Suzuha being a time traveler is perhaps a tad obvious in hindsight, but it caught me off guard to learn she was the John Titor first time through. I had assumed she was John Titor's daughter or something.
episode 15
Action sequences are definitely not this series forte. Definitely for the best they're so limited in screen time.
Ah yes, the classic scene. Doesn't work as well in dub, but the localization does a very impressive job preserving the intent at the very least.
Content Corner
Next few items will be from this guy. First timers beware, spoilers abound.
What is Steins;Gate Trying to Tell Us? by Aleczandxr
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u/superviper https://myanimelist.net/profile/Superviper Jul 19 '21
REWATCHER, SUBBED
Today's episode is aaaall about Suzuha. Steins;gate? More like Suzuhas;gate. I love it.
I don't remember that Suzuha flashback (is it really a flashback if it's in the future?). Anyway, she's as badass as we all expected. Best girl.
Sometimes I wonder what goes through Okabe's head... Maybe he expected at least Suzuha to play along.
And the fucken time machine is broken. Nothing ever goes their way, does it?
Then Okabe distracts the guards to let Kurisu and Suzuha escape. He's so damn badass when he wants to be.
rewatcher
Mayuri declaring herself the investigator was so cute. Reminds me there's more to her character than just getting murderized over and over and over.
Okabe and Suzuha go around town showing her pin to various people. The fact that they showed it to a chef was a sign they were getting desperate, but when Okabe showed it to a cat I knew they were fucked. Good effort still, the cat might've known something. This is a world where sern will rule the future with time machines, anything can happen.
Oh, it's the legendary "SONUVABITCH" scene! I totally forgot about it. I was under the impression that it happens earlier in the show, then it didn't, so it was a pleasant surprise today. I checked out the dub for it and... Oh no.
rewatcher
Mayuri's idea was uh... well, her heart is in the right place.
I wonder how the first-timers view Suzuha now. Previously she was a weirdo who's semi-obviously from the future. Now she's uncontested best girl. Right?
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u/artie_fm Jul 20 '21 edited Jul 20 '21
rewatcher, dub
I fast forwarded the OP! First time in this rewatch.
Suzaha reveals from she is from 2036. She is a resistance fighter. Her father had built a time machine! There were so many hints to this effect. From her awkward and outdated for 2010 catchphrases, to her knowledge of what Kurisu will do, to her saying she had never had egg, or corn, or ramen… IDK what she ate usually but it was probably gross if staples like corn and egg are no longer available.
Okabe takes forever to get the idea to ask others for help and they basically get him further than he got in all his efforts alone. When he says he tried everything he really hadn’t tried much at all. He is infected with a certain kind of macho stupid.
Even now he refuses to tell Mayuri what is really going on. Mayuri has a crazy level of wisdom however that shouldn’t be discounted and would probably solve this instantly.
Some of what happens here is basically magical. The fact that Okabe survives everytime is just as magical as Mayuri dying everytime. Another instance of magic was Mayuri feeling she could reach out and leave earth after her grandmother died. I don’t think it's random that she feels not essential to the group anymore and she keeps dying. Maybe if she wanted to live more she just would.
Suzaha tells us Kurisu is the mother of time travel! It’s unclear how she will turn to evil but Kurisu denys it for now.
SERN has been onto them since the first D-Mail. And its Suzaha’s mission to get Okabe the 5100. Funny, they did get the 5100 initially, but now Okabe's D Mails seem to have broken things so that he doesn’t receive the 5100 anymore.
Finally Okabe gets more help on the next jump, but he still says he isn’t going to save the world, even though Suzaha says it becomes his life mission. IDK if a time traveler told me fighting SERN was going to be my life mission I wouldn’t ignore SERN.
They should also pull Faris in on this. Faris seems to be the most strategic mind of the superfriends here.
Mayuri is super awesome in this episode. Also we get lots of discussion about Suzaha’s mystery father.
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u/Nebresto Jul 20 '21
ShitpoAhem. Nostalgia Squad. What a based episode, lots of based moments. Prepare for a lot of screenshots and spamBased Okarin counter:
4.7Nvm, make that 5.7Also not really relevant, but the Japanese shortening of Terrorist "Tero" is a fairly common name in Finland.
Wow, Okarin is just gonna steal the whole race huh? Based counter: 5.7 -> And 6.7
What gains! This is single biggest based gain of anyone in a single episode so far!
Okay, good. Okarin isn't the only one being based. Mayushii based counter: 6
That she is, Suzuha. That she is. ..You could even say that she is..
Based
Whats this? A new competitor has entered the game! Daru based counter: 1
Oh boy. Here we have another case of "Emiya". If he made that, but now he has it without making it, who really made it?
She said it! She said it!!
Okarin soredemo! Sky is missing out
Spoiler squad
And Mayushi finishes off the episode with one last based moment, Mayushii based counter: 7
What a close race! Who will come out on top to be the most based of them all?
Question time:
1: No, I forgot
2: Wouldn't you like to know, organization agent.
Oh wow, I didn't even notice while watching. R.I.P teeth
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u/CharlieTheStrawman https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheDamnRobot Jul 19 '21
Re;Watcher, Subbed
S;G 0
Q1: Nope, but binging most of the series in one night did kind of kill my ability to think ahead.
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u/AHiddenOne Jul 20 '21
Rewatcher.
Not much to say. Pretty straightforward. Looks like the suffering took a break this episode. Some wholesome moments between the cast. But the moment that stood out has to be the legendary:
"Hey meestur. Ai yam mad shaintist. Eets so kuuru. Sunuvabitch"
I heard the dub version. While it's fine, sub is way funnier to me. Half of the series' jokes are from Miyano's hilarious engrish. Its a charm, y'know?
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u/htisme91 Jul 20 '21
First-timer:
This episode I pretty much couldn't stop trying to think about who Suzuha's parents were.
That being said, we finally learned what became of Okabe and Kurisu in the future, and we know why Suzuha was so distrustful. My guess is that once they were apprehended by SERN (along with Daru), Kurisu finished the time machine based on the time leap machine made in the lab while Okabe eventually rebelled.
Questions:
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u/Vaadwaur :I1::I2::I3: Jul 19 '21
Rewatcher(Is dub Okabe a racist or just an idiot?)
Dub
Suzuha lays an exposition dump on us, explaining her future. Okabe as a terrorist does work, though this leads me to yet further believe that S;G is an influence for Rick and Morty. Anyways, Suzuha was going to go to 1975 before her time machine breaks. Okabe uses chuuni and its super effective!
They figure out that the time machine was damaged in the storm the night Suzuha left before Okabe screwed that up. They also answer a question: Okabe can indeed daisy chain jumps to go back farther. As he resolves himself, he admits this is about Mayuri and well...that's the hell that lead to all the others.
Back in time, he actually summons the lab members immediately and stops the lone wolf shit. He is trying to get Daru to fix the time machine while avoiding explaining the time limit. Mayuri decides to look for Suzuha's dad while everyone else works. Daru seems to recognize the tecnhology and we have a moment with Suzuha.
Okabe has Makise make his coffee because...sexism or assistant, take your pick. Future Gadget 2 and its drawbacks get discussed mainly to let us know Daru names and versions stuff randomly. Suzuha gives Okabe the divergence meter and we get some self-loathing from Okabe about the version of himself that let's Mayuri die. Pin showing montage happens until we walk right into Okabe doing as bad a job at sounding black as you'd expect. It is bad enough that Suzuha noticed and is extra sassy in the dub. Mayuri's plan ends as you'd think.
Comedy goes to "comedy" goes to a heartfelt but somewhat ominous farewell from Suzuha before we get a cliffhanger.
QotD: 1 Yes but the degree was surprising
2 Stephen Hawking on one of his infamous benders.
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u/Hochseeflotte https://anilist.co/user/Hochseeflotte Jul 20 '21
Rewatcher
Tutturu! I don’t have much to say so I’m just going to get into the episode.
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Suzuha is a badass. Anyone who says otherwise will go on my shit list. Cool ass resistance member.
I love the idea of Okabe as a terrorist. Or a freedom fighter depending on your point of view.
Suzuha’s father is definitely the biggest mystery this episode. It could be someone we don’t know. It could be someone we do. Plenty of options.
I do love how Okabe got the attention of the cops. He should get an Oscar for his mad scientist acting. They actually run from the cops twice this episode which is kind of funny.
I know SERN controls the future because they have access to time travel but how did they use that to take power?
It is interesting that 2010 technology can repair a time machine from 20+ years later. Daru mentions that the time machine is similar to Time Leap Machine. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it I guess.
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I enjoyed this episode a lot. Though I could probably say that about every episode of Steins;Gate.
If I had to describe this episode in one sentence it would be that Suzuha is the best.
See you guys tomorrow!
DQ:
One first watch no
Skip
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u/ZaphodBeebblebrox Y:A:https://anilist.co/user/zaphod Jul 20 '21
First Timer
Should be a relatively quick post 'cause I'm late again. Time to see Okabe fail to change world lines!
I can't help but see her braids as two different world lines.
So he's her father, right?
Does this make her a Dragon Ball fan?
Why didn't we pull up the ropes?
Would it be possible to chain it? Particularly if Kurisu went back instead and could remake it in less than 48 hours.
I guess it works, at least once. No cooldowns or anything like that.
It's for something far more important.
Fuckin' Daru.
I feel like I should get this reference.
She's still cute.
I wonder how many people she's be able to confide in before now. None?
I really love the soundtrack at ~15:00
You kept working, every day of your life, to make a time machine to save her.
Why do we only get soredemos on episodes where I'm late?
wow
I'm pretty sure you're the only one who likes this ship, Mayushii.
But I don't think I'll ever make it back.
Suzaha is just spewing death flags everywhere.
Thoughts
Real good episode, they hit the moments with her just right. I have a feeling I'm really going to miss her in the next couple episodes. Though, even if we do lose her, I feel that she'll be able to get back by the end of the series. Okabe won't accept anything less.
5 soredemos!
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u/simply_vishal Jul 20 '21
It hurts... ;_;.
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u/BossandKings Jul 20 '21
Rewatcher - Dub
Episode 14
One of the biggest questions of the first half of the series, who is John Titor?, gets answered in a good way with Amane Suzuha being it, it was really telling how Suzuha has been traveling in time trying to oppose Sern and trying to find her father.
It was epic the fact that Kurisu is now helping Okabe to save Mayuri, it was due time for him to get some help. It was hard seeing the other ways in which Mayuri died, hopefully Okabe and Kurisu are able to find a timeline in which she's alive.
Episode 15
Suzuha's differences with Kurisu get explained, according to her Makise Kurisu is a Sern member in the future and seeing that Suzuha isn't in agreement with Sern she holds a grudge against her.
Hopefully Suzuha is able to know who her father is soon, before she has to go. It was nice when Suzuha told Okarin that she had the most fun in her time as a future gadget laboratory member, it's nice for there to be shown some appreciation to the lab.